Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – France vs Germany

Fantasy managers brace themselves for the penultimate match of Euro 2016 as France and Germany go head-to-head in Marseille at 8pm.

There’s little between the pair as they lock horns for a place in Sunday’s final against Portugal, after Fernando Santos’ side defeated Wales 2-0 last night.

France have won four and drawn one of their five fixtures so far, netting at least twice on four occasions. The 5-2 quarter-final demolition of Iceland ensured that Les Bleus entered the last four as the top-scoring team in the tournament.

Germany, though, showed their mettle by defeating Italy on spot-kicks last time out and, having conceded just a single goal, boast the best defence in Euro 2016.

Joachim Low’s side were equally impressive at the other end of the pitch – they sat joint-top for attempts on goal in the opening five matches and led the way for shots inside the box. Despite netting just seven times to France’s 11, then, the World Champions will be confident of breaching a backline that’s conceded three times against Republic of Ireland and Iceland over their last two matches.

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  1. Fergietime
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    That moment when someone in the top 10 in the world joins the league you have been winning since day 1 with just 2 matches left...

    1. mrtapio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      thats just rude!

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Leagues should be locked at the start of the comp if there is money involved .

      1. Fergietime
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Tell me about it, yes there is a significant prize on offer.

    3. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      If you don't know him, he can't win the prize. Don't worry about it. Prize is yours.

  2. Ten Season Wonder
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    looks like 4-3-3 is the way to go ...

  3. Thomas M.
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    worth taking a hit to get those eleven men on the field?

    Team for semi's:

    Henn / Neuer
    Hector / Rami (don't ask me why i changed him from Umiti -.-) / Guerreiro / Fonte / A. Williams
    Payet / Özil / Kroos / Draxler / Allen
    Muller / Griezmann / Bale

    After my 6FT

    Lloris
    Rami / Gurreiro / Fonte / Koc
    Payet / Pogba / Matuidi or Sissoko(?)
    Griezmann / Gruuu / Ronaldo

    What whould you do?

    1. Critical Observer
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      The "After" scenario seems to indicate 11 playing players in an acceptable formation or am I reading this wrong?

      1. Thomas M.
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        You are right, atm with Rami out (can't see him play after Umtitis game today) i'm down to 10.

        1. Critical Observer
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Rami just might start to counter the perceived aerial threat; definitely wait to see the line-ups. At the end of the day, -4 is almost never worth it but if you are chasing and it's close then why not, you might end up looking like a genius when you take a hit to bring in Pepe who heads in the winning goal. 😉

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Just get Pepe in for free 🙂

          2. Thomas M.
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah. I´ll wait and i´m actually in the lead by 25points or so. Tho i went from 100 OR to my 1300 rank now and that makes me really angry 😀
            Thanks CO for you time and tips 🙂

  4. Ten Season Wonder
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone considering Nani for the final?

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Got him for Wales.

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        you keeping him? or going Griezmann - CR7 - Gru?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Want Portugal to win so no brainer.

          1. Ten Season Wonder
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            heart ruling head scenario ? 🙂

            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Did you see Giroud last night?

    2. Cheeseoid
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      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I think third forward has to be him or Giroud really.

  5. Jay_
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Bacca to West Ham looks on the cards, Gokhan Tore looks like he's coming too. Great time to be a hammer 🙂

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I saw that but know nothing about them...tell me more...

        1. Jay_
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Bacca 80 goals in his last 4 seasons. Brugge, Sevilla x2, Milan. Pure finisher, just what we need. Tore a decent winger, bad tempermant, more of an assister, just what we don't need tbh. Will probably play on the left with Payet in the middle at the start because Lanzini at Olympics.

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Noted

            2. Zasa
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Bacca's as pure a poacher as you're gonna get, most dangerous player for Colombia whenever we play them.

      2. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Missed the first couple of group stage matches this tourney. Curious, how well was Greasemann rated on here early on in the tourney (or before the tourney)? Was he a highly-owned casuals pick for the most part until he started performing?

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          He was in plenty in the early drafts then gradually fell in favour as people realised the price difference between him and Giroud. This afforded Muller which was a huge success

          1. Zasa
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Ah alright, that makes sense. Cheers, Cheese.

      3. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        So 9 players already for the final.

        What to do with all of these transfers.

        Would anyone like to buy some?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Save some for GW1.

          1. Cheeseoid
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            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Good thinking TM! I could do with for GW 2

            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              You'll WC then.

        2. Thomas M.
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          I can take one and i´ll give you one during Gw 27

          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            You had better not try

      4. Ten Season Wonder
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        If we are all being honest...it all boils down... to having;

        8 frenchmen
        + CR7, Renato, Rafa.G doesn't it

        1. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          For me, Fonte and Nani come in too.

        2. Jay_
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I'm going with 8 Portugese. Perfect time for a roll of the dice.

          • ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Quite literally what I have right now haha

        3. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          So 37 points between me and OR1. How do I catch that up in one match?

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            You don't

            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              You are a terrible motivator.

              1. Ayew Serious
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                I'm not trying to be a good motivator. I want to be honest with you

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  When you are on the front line in the trenches facing a machine gun honesty will not get the troops in to no mans land

                  1. Thomas M.
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    😀

                  2. Ayew Serious
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I'm not on the front line in the trenches facing a machine gun.

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      And be thankful for it!

          2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Punt on the useless Portugal and French mids and hope they somehow develop super powers in the next couple of days .

            1. Cheeseoid
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              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Yet another Super Mario?

          3. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Hack his account.

            1. Ayew Serious
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              And the tonnes of other people who can win?

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                He has a bet with 1st.

                1. Cheeseoid
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                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I just want to be first. I may have to lower my sights

              2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                I am 4767 overall could someone who is doing worse please post their rank ? .

                1. TorresMagic™
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                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  You have me beat.

                2. KingNidge
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  7263

                3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Thank you both .

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    No worries Westy

                4. Ayew Serious
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Mines 7 digit

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    lol

                5. Salah’s Sonnet
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  why is it important? haha

                  1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I am sick of the people with amazing ranks bragging 🙂

                    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      no offence cheese

                    2. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Sorry. Don't worry when FPL starts I will revert to being awful at this game

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        But as I have said before I don't think there is anything wrong with telling your rank to anyone here.

                        After all nobdy else in the world could give a rats arse how I do at fantasy football. If I can't say it here where can I?

                        1. Salah’s Sonnet
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          Very true, however the world of FPL will give a rats arse when you only go and win it this season haha!
                          allaboutthepositivity 🙂

                          1. Cheeseoid
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                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            That is very positive. I like it!

                      2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                        • 13 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Don't mind me extremely jealous 🙂

                    3. Salah’s Sonnet
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      haha i understand, although it is only the Euro's mate, this is merely a pre-season warm up before FPL kicks in 🙂 You have an excellent rank, my rank is 74280 haha!

            2. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Hmm. That could work for one person. But I would have to hack the other 185 players in front of me to get there.

              I might sprain my wrist with all that hacking

              1. Ayew Serious
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                And then someone will probably best you from behind nonetheless

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Yup.

          4. ducksfly2gether
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I'm 15 points back and don't think theres a chance

        4. :
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          This UEFA game's a bloody nonsense. Why am I only allowed to recruit a miserly eight Portuguese players into my final team? I don't want any deux point Frenchmen clogging up the place - I just want winners.

          Thought I was in with a chance of a top 10 place in the Scout league until I saw that ridiculous restriction.

          Pish.

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            The 3 extra wouldn't gain many more points.

            1. :
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              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              They'd earn me three more points. Five defenders, a mid plus Ronaldo & Nani is all the Portuguese I can get. I'm stuck with three French mids I don't want!

        5. Dušan Citizen
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          And let today will be the day when holy FPL opens!

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            210 to go.

          2. Ayew Serious
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            It's open

        6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Apart from renato there is nobody I want from that portuguese midfield, such a lack of options

          1. KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Joao Mario is kind of an option although he's been utter cack

            1. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              not many options in the French midfield either

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Outside Payet and Pog this is true

                1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  i'd say payet is the only real good option, pogba is decent but is the same as matuidi/sissoko. You going to be extremely lucky to get much out of them

            2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              yep he has been utter crap, his passing and overall play in every game I have seen has been just terrible

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Started with him too thought he could be my shining differential.. lol

        7. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          so all in on France then?

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Only 8 possible.

          2. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Probably. Although all in on Portugal woul give the best chance of a rank change

            1. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              yeah this is true, I might go all in on Port to try win a cash ML, 20 odd points behind

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                That is the only way you could do it now I suspect. Or captaining an unlikely Frenchman who succeeds well

                1. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Pogba captain or something, don't see it myself but the guy could score a brace.

                  1. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Pogba was my thinking tbh

        8. Get up ya bum
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Mancs... Happy or no with Mourinho at your club?

          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I'd say the vast majority are happy after Moyes and LVG

          2. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Not a fan but the change has been massive.

            1. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Are you a fan of any PL club TM?

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Switzerland, helps with FPL.

                1. KingNidge
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Had to google what the hell you were on about there lol

                  Yep clearly it helps mate 🙂

            2. Get up ya bum
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Always a circus wherever he goes eh. Nobody better for short term success but he'll leave a mess behind when he leaves.
              I'm still shocked they went for him

              1. djenzio
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                couldn't agree more, he is completely opposite of what the Utd successful era was about. He won't win the league but could challenge and win a trophy or two but I think Utd will be left in a real bad state when he leaves, which will prob be in a year or two

              2. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Pretty much. It's been in the plans for a while.

              3. Van Klinkert Delarosa
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                There is literally no one with his caliber available on the market.

              4. sinik
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                He'll stay pretty long-term IMO (I think at least 5-6 years for sure)..this is the club he's always really wanted to be at..and he won't be working with the same kind of autocratic execs he's had to butt heads with at the likes of Real and Chelsea

          3. KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Will miss Lvg and his philosophy dearly

          4. Critical Observer
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            The logic dictates they should be devastated; they don't go and shop for a new manager when the team is not performing, theirs is just not that kind of a club. They do things differently. Another manifestation of this philosophy is their tendency to field mostly lads from their own academy: De Gea, Martial, Blind, Rojo, Herrera, Darmian, Shaw, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Mata and the likes. Other clubs always end up having to buy success; the rags create their own, as they are different.

            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              NaCl

          5. sinik
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            • 10 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Thrilled. Always liked him, but also acknowledge he has personality flaws (Eva-gate). That being said, I'm not some fool that holds footballers and managers to a higher standard.

            He has brought the swagger back to the club after two highly mediocre managerial stints post-Fergie and I can say quite confidently that we would not have Ibra or Mkhi without him AND that the Pogba conversation would have never progressed from the pages of the Sun and Express.

            1. Get up ya bum
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              For sure he has the star pull and always gets silverware. He's a whinging precious egomaniac though. Sure he'll spend crazy money on quality players and challenge for titles but he'll foster a toxic atmosphere at the club. From the academy to the back room staff to the board. All that matters to mourinho is personal accolades.
              It will be an exciting time but will take some cleaning up

              1. sinik
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                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Disagree, but I suppose we'll see soon enough.

              2. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                He didn't foster a toxic atmosphere at Porto or Inter Milan.. so assuming this is something that will happen is nonsense quite frankly.. no surprise that the two clubs he left in Madrid and Chelsea he was never in total control and constantly undermined by those above who know nothing of the game of football.. this will not be a problem at United.. the Glazers will let him get on with his job and providing he does that and achieves what is expected of him then happy days..

                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Hmmm maybe you are right. Time will tell

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Indeed mate no use in any of us trying to predict the future i'm just looking forward to this season more so than any other near enough 30 years 🙂

                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I speculate that its because he's never been in a losing position at Inter or Porto but when he hits a rut he doesn't have the temperament to stay and get out of it. Arsenal have been 10th in December recently, Fergie was once 9th in December but they both kept at it and salvaged top 4 places from it. whereas Jose resorts to constructive dismissal of the team doctor and quits when it gets bad for him. He's great til he's not then he's got to be got rid of ASAP.

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Certainly an element of truth in this.. he certainly doesn't handle a tough time well.. certainly not at Chelsea 2nd time around for sure.. recall him losing his first El Classico 5-0 to Barca and was rightly slaughtered left right and centre but bounced back to win the league eventually and top arguably the best club side of all time.. as for the second stint at Chelsea maybe he will learn a lot from that.. simply not used to losing very much they chap

                    1. KingNidge
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      3 certainly's in 16 words.. go on Nidgey lol

                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      That is true and that must have hurt, but there was first season grace and he was only 2 points behind Barca at that point so he was still in a title race.

                      Idk, we'll see. 3/4 years down the line if you guys get off to a bad start, I'd chop off the hand to save the arm.

                      1. KingNidge
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        This is it mate pointless debate we don't know whats going to happen just a lot of people focusing on the bad points and ignoring the fact he's the most successful manager of the 21st century..

                          1. KingNidge
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            I make it 22 - 21 Jose in terms of trophies.. and add achievements such as a CL with Porto and Inter and there is only one winner... as of now 🙂

                            1. sinik
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                              • 10 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              I have it as 15 major club trophies for Mourinho and 12 for Pep.

                              I didn't include Serie B or random super cups (including Club World Cup)

                              • 10 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              Alright I'll give you that, but its only cause he's had longer to win 'em 😉

                            2. KingNidge
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              i included the lot and went by honours on each wiki page.. discounting b team

                            3. KingNidge
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              🙂

        9. HurriKane
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Will Umtiti start the final over Rami ?

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Good chance, lineups ftw.

          2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I expect he will . It would be a shock after starting him tonight

        10. Mind över Mata
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          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Defending my ML, 18 points ahead. Can you improve on this?:

          Lloris
          Sagna / Kos / Cedric / Guerriero
          R. Sanches / Pogba / Payet
          Ronaldo / Greiz (c) / Giroud

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            1-0 Portugal would make things interesting.

            1. Mind över Mata
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              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Yes, but even then I'd be hedged with 2 Portuguese defenders.

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Rival could have 5 including GK.

          2. Critical Observer
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Looks about as safe as it gets when defending a lead.

        11. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          My main competitor would need 11 transfers to have a fully playing starting 11 and bench. Just to brag I made transfers for my bench too.

          1. noquarternt
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            cool

        12. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          OK. Time for a realistic goal of top 100 as that is only 5 points away.

          That has to be doable right?

          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            5 points is nothing . Good luck Cheese

            1. Cheeseoid
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              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks! And good luck to you in your next battle with Bane

              1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                *Optimus

              2. I Member
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                He merely adopted the darkness.

        13. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          15mil for Ibe with a buy back / sell-on clause, very tidy bit of business from Klopp.

          1. Sauzée
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Offsets the Mane buy nicely.

            1. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              well it pays for half of Mane

              1. Get up ya bum
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Half a mane walks with no shadow

        14. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          so is it best to go 8 Portugal and 3 France if chasing?

          Griez Nani CR7 seems the best front 3 imo

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Pretty much. Captain Patricio.

            1. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              really??

              better to go for a defender no? chance of CS and attacking returns?

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Pat gets saves. Could get lucky with a goal/assist.

                1. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  yeah true but do France create enough SoG? I guess they should dominate against Portugal who will most likely sit back

                2. Cheeseoid
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                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  He could save a penalty? That would screw Greizmann cappers as well I guess

            2. Cheeseoid
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              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              But Patricio cannot score. Try Guererio surely has a reasonable chance of attacking returns?

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Griezmann penalty save likely. He is pretty obvious with them.

        15. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Goodnight everyone. Don't have nightmares

          1. Ayew Serious
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Fpl will open while you sleep

            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Inevitably. I will be busy all day tomorrow as well

              1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                It's never opened on a Friday 🙂 . Monday after the Euro's maybe 🙂

                1. sinik
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  it's hard to tell at this point what's a wind up and what's true 😆

          2. Thomas M.
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Sleep tight Cheese! wp

          3. KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Night Cheese

            • 10 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Night Cheese.

          4. Zasa
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Buenas noches, Queso

        16. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Currently looking at:

          Lloris (Patricio)
          Evra Koscielny Sagna Guerreiro (Pepe)
          Pogba Payet Renato Sanches (Mario, Gomes) 🙂
          Griezmann(c) Ronaldo Giroud

          If I'm trying to c**kblock 2nd place, should I put in Pepe for one of my French defense lads?

        17. Mrm9m
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Bacca definitely will be in my FPL team , hope his price is reasonable

          1. Thomas M.
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            i like him aswell

        18. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          "Paul Pogba has told certain friends & team-mates of his desire to return to Manchester United, according to tomorrow's L'Équipe."

        19. Van Klinkert Delarosa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Ibe is the younger version of Mane, 15M is about right.

          Good business for both club.

          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            ..if Ibe is £15m and Mane is £36m, then Mata should go to new-billionaires-Everton for about £40m-45m easy.

            1. Ayew Serious
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Mata is much older than both

              1. sinik
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                TIL 4 years is MUCH older..

                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  In footballing terms where a player's career at the top level lasts about 10 years it is.

                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Well sorta, its certainly noticeably older and enough to affect a players price evaluation.

                  1. sinik
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I think Mata's consistency of production in England, despite woeful managerial leadership, negates any age difference.

                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      True I'd rather have Mata than Mane in my team and I don't see your valuation too far off, but yeah I was just generally commenting on 4 years as a long time in football. 4 years ago Scott Parker, Glenn Johnson, Steven Gerrard and Ashley Cole were first choice players at the last Euros!

                      1. sinik
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Haha yeah I'll concede that point

            2. Jazz!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Am I the only one who thinks 36mill for Mané is fine? Natural goalscoring midfielder who's PL proven and can score a hatty v anyone on his day. The amount of chances Lallana gets, Mané would bury. Only 23/24 as well ...

              1. sinik
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                He's just turned 24 and I just find him to be pretty inconsistent so far..Klopp is a fantastic manager so he may easily take him to new heights..

                1. Jazz!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  He performs well most games, sometimes doesn't exactly translate them into goals/assists, will only improve at Liverpool under Klopp.

              2. Get up ya bum
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                We overpaid but he is a very good signing. Perfect fit and exactly what we need.
                When we are getting bargains like matip and karius we can afford to stump for a key target

                1. Zasa
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Really digging that front four, mate, coming along nicely.

                  How'd you rate Firm this season?

                  1. Get up ya bum
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Yeah same! They will terrorize defences.

                    He's so good, so underrated. Probably the most important of the four!

                    1. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Aye! Finally you guys have a good winger, plus a guy who's more than capable of being a good finisher. Looking forward to seeing that front-four when fit, shaping up to be one of the top best frontlines so far.

                      Good to hear, man. I know he had his struggles in the first half but it looks he just gradually eased into the side. Come December or so, he really came into his own iirc

                      1. Get up ya bum
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Yeah Klopp got him thriving. He's in his element with the gegenpress. Really intelligent and precise with the ball and its all just so damn effortless.

                        1. Zasa
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          You better get your filthy paws away from him in the draft 😉

              3. Sauzée
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                He will be straight in to my team. Liverpool could be a force if they get a decent CM/fullbacks.

            3. Van Klinkert Delarosa
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Could be, but Koeman is not that stupid.

              1. sinik
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                hey I love Mata, I'd prefer to keep him!

                if we have to sell, I'd love for him to stay in England tho

        20. Spleising
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          I am in a ML with a big price at stake. Second atm with nine points up to first. Will still win a decent price if I end up second but first will mean to double the amount. I am four points ahead of third which will half my price and so on until fifth. What would you do and which team would you put out? Got 6 portugese (4 defenders ( Patricio, Cedric, Fonte, Guerreiro) , Sanches and Ronaldo) and 4 french ( Lloris, Sagna, Payet, Griezmann). Thoughts appreciated.

          1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Don't be greedy.

        21. Dušan Citizen
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Subotic to come at 5.0 price?

          1. Jazz!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Club?

            1. Ayew Serious
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Bro

              1. Jazz!
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                They're going for Subotic now!? Wow

          2. Sauzée
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            No idea but I think I've found my second team for the season!

        22. Jay_
            7 years, 10 months ago

            What a cracking opening weekend on TV it's gonna be. Those 5 games have everything.

            Hull v Leicester; The newly promoted v the reigning champs. (12.30 Sky)
            City v Sunderland; Peps revolution v Big Sams solid team. (5.30 BT)
            Bournmouth v United; The minnows v Jose's new dream team (Sun 1.30 Sky)
            Arsenal v Liverpool; Cracker, pick of the bunch on paper. (Sun 4.00 Sky)
            Chelsea v West Ham; London Derby. Conte defence v Bilic attack (Mon 8.00 Sky)

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I'll probably miss the early game 🙁

              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              As much as I love Pep, I'd love big Sam to hold him to a draw with a proper 1930s welcome to English football.

            • 10 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Just a bit more on Neymar and his value, this is the FIFPro 2015 World XI and their current ages in brackets

            Neuer (30)
            Alves (33), Ramos (30), Thiago Silva (31), Marcelo (28)
            Iniesta (32), Modric (30), Pogba (23)
            Messi (29), Ronaldo (31), Neymar (24)

            With the exception of Neymar, everyone else on that list is at least 5 years older than Neymar and in the attacking six Iniesta is 9 years older than Pogba. He's already been voted as one of the best 11 players in the world by 40,000 other professionals and is the youngest player on that list. Going by an average top player's trajectory, he's probably got another 7 or 8 years as an absolutely world class player and then still three more years of still being one of the best players in whichever league he's in, if not in Europe. For rich teams with Champions League winning ambitions, only the very best players will do and £100m for a projected 8 year period of being world class actually works out at quite an easy £12.5m per year. If you buy Modric at 30, £100m it makes way less sense because you've got way less time to get the value out of him to repay your outlay but for the world's best 23 year old, it's been the going rate since Ronaldo and Bale made their moves.

            As for whether or not a club should pay that much money, if you look at the amortised cost, £12.5m + wages is easily affordable for a club who turnover almost half a billion pounds per year. Heck even £100m up front isn't even too much of a stretch for a club making that much money and then you've got Pogba with only wages to pay from then on. Do clubs have too much money to spend? Well there's millions and millions of us who shell out hundreds and hundreds of pounds each year to watch sport on TV and local fans who spend millions and millions on matchday tickets and food and VIP boxes over the course of a season. Its a professional sport, we pay them money to watch their sport, its not as if they rigged LIBOR or ran a ponzi scheme to make their money. If you want good honest local sport, go to your local park on a weekend but this is pro sport and its going to make money as long as its entertaining.

              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Oh man, complete slip in the first sentence saying Neymar rather than Pogba 😆

              Still Neymar's worth about £100m too!

            1. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Great stuff Balders

            2. Zasa
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Exactly 🙂 Fantastic post, Balders.

            3. Camp No No
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Well put.

              But Neymar appears to be worth €190M, don't know what that's in pounds these days.

          • Wouter
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            How many points are you guys approx. on? Used to come here quite a bit during the 14/15 season for advice, etc and did really well by my standards (top 70k finish). Now wondering if my score is somewhat acceptable to the rest here. Currently on 307 points. Keeping Muller from start to finish really hurt.

            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              350 here

              1. Wouter
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Ah nice! A bit behind then, but I'll take it. Had a pretty shocking group stage but been coming back in the past few games.

                1. sinik
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I made plenty of stupid mistakes and got lucky plenty of times, the margins are so slim in this game haha

            2. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              334

              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I'm on 300 so you're beating me 🙂

            3. Murph1
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              364. Currently 359th in the world. Serious nosebleed by my standards!

              1. Wouter
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Ohh damn, killing it. Good luck with the final game!