Opinion

The Burning Question – Should we consider a four-man defence?

Three at the back – it’s been the tried and trusted Fantasy formation since we were first given a choice in such matters.

Midfielders and forwards score more points, after all, so you’ve got to maximise their presence in your side.

But the rise of the wing-back last season is threatening to prompt a revolution. The poster boy for the movement, Marcos Alonso, romped to 177 points for Chelsea in 2016/17 – more than all but the top four Fantasy Premier League strikers (excluding the out-of-position Josh King).

And with more Premier League managers than ever flirting with the system, there’s a school of thought that increasing numbers of Fantasy defenders are going to score big this campaign.

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the second of this season’s Burning Questions: Do we stick to 3-4-3, or give in to the lure of the four-man defence?

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

There’s no question that 3-4-3 is the standard FPL formation and, given the array of forwards available, I want to continue playing three up front.

Whether it’s worth moving to four in defence is something I’ll look to adapt to when more information suggests that’s the route.

At the moment there are a lot of options in all the positions, so I’m still happy to maximise the number of attackers.

I generally find results to be unpredictable at the start of the season with newly promoted teams often enjoying a honeymoon period. This makes banking on clean sheets as a source of points a risky strategy.

Should certain teams come to the fore with regards to clean sheets, and at least four defenders look clearly underpriced, then I could be persuaded to make the switch to four at the back.

But it’s a crazy, and possibly drab, season if I’m going to five, though.

The other side to defenders that’s worth looking at is the attacking potential. I like my defenders to have some goal threat, but feel three defenders is still enough.

I still view defenders for clean sheets as being the priority and am not keen on a good Gameweek being dependent on my defenders scoring or assisting.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

Depends. Each to their own!

We saw with Marcos Alonso and Kyle Walker last season that the wing-backs provide great value in FPL, and it has reinvigorated the defender position as a glamorous position to pay attention to.

Therefore, given how many attacking wing-backs we have in the league coupled with consistently high-scoring centre-backs such as Gary Cahill, Gareth McAuley and Cesar Azpilicueta, there is merit in considering a four-man defence in FPL.

However, you would have to dig deeper into the statistical evidence to establish the best value formation.

The basic fact remains that you have £100m to spend and I feel the most significant factor when putting a team together is to select the right players period by period and regardless of the formation, and to be flexible in your approach.

Selecting high-value players in one position obviously means allowances have to be made elsewhere, so it is best to put together a balanced team capable of putting big points on the board.

Generally speaking, I have always preferred the 3-4-3 formation but given how many good high-priced attacking players there are, if I was going to change, it would be to a 3-5-2 to allow two big hitters up front.

Having said this, I don’t believe it works long-term to be principled and I try and maintain a squad of 15 that allows for flexibility of formations.

Again, it is more important to have the right set of players than to start with a formation and go from there.

Peter Kouwenberg (Current Hall of Fame #1) Says…

At the time of writing, I am so tempted to switch to the dark side of a four-man defence, purely because the value you can find by stripping down the attacking unit by two players is mouth-watering.

The potential benefits of stocking up on wing-backs have been constantly lauded on these pages over the past few weeks and have slowly eroded my stoicism to stick to 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

That third striker position is the deal-breaker, in my mind.

You can obviously go all-out attack with three Rolls-Royce strikers if you don’t mind loading your defence and midfield with the Rangels and Carrolls of the world.

Trade in your Jesus or Morata for the ephemeral charms of Defoe, Benteke or Hernandez and you are looking at a solid, balanced 3-4-3 with points potential all over the pitch and maybe even a half-decent substitute knocking on your door every week asking if there is any chance he can have a run-out.

How tempting, though, to throw caution to the wind and dust the cobwebs off logbooks labelled Crouch, McBurnie or Mousset. You know these cantankerous old beasts may not even get into first gear, but what does that matter when it allows you the coveted Kan-Kaku strike force, two premium midfielders and enough cash left over to replicate Manchester City’s summer spending in defence?

Fantasy Football is all about flexibility and adaptability, and a change of formation could be just the bold move which puts you ahead of the game before Wildcard mania kicks in.

Whether I’m bold enough to make the move myself is something yet to be confirmed.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

I can definitely see the appeal of a back four.

The triumphant return of the wing-back position after about twenty years in the footballing wilderness has offered the promise of both attacking and defensive returns and a whole new dynamic to factor into our selection.

It’s hard to argue against including the likes of Kieran Trippier or Marcos Alonso. Sure, they’ve had big price hikes this season, but comparable to many midfielders and forwards, they look to offer better value.

Outside of the premium defenders, the trend of wing-backs may also enhance the value of some budget defenders, Lewis Dunk at Brighton being a potential example. This further strengthens the case for focusing on the backline.

For me though, I’m currently still looking at three at the back, with one or two premium options, and then exploiting the value I see among mid-priced midfielders to afford a strong front line.

Defence is, in my opinion, still the best place to conserve budget. The shift for me involves the type of defender I’m going for – it’s now pacy wing-backs over the good ol’ BAP-magnet-dominating centre-halves.

That said, I’m still a little wary.

The trend for wing-backs emerged out of the blue(s) last season and took everyone by surprise.

But football evolves quickly and, this season, teams are certain to adapt, either by teams switching to a wing-back formation themselves, finding ways to counter the threat or by exploiting the spaces that wing-backs can leave defensively.

The days of Alonso and company bombing forward with reckless abandon might not last as long as we hope.

Jonty says…

I’ve heard the arguments for opting for four at the back and they are pretty impressive.

Of those defenders priced at 7.0 or below, 10 achieved scores in excess of 130 FPL points last season. Of these, Chelsea’s Gary Cahill, Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta even managed to hit or exceed the 170-point mark.

By contrast, just five similarly-priced midfielders breached the 130-point barrier and none earned more than 149.

The argument in favour of fielding four at the back over 3-4-3 is even greater when considering cheaper strikers, as only Troy Deeney of Watford managed to hit 130 points last time out.

Four at the back makes sense, but I’ve still decided to ignore this compelling evidence and stick to my tried and tested 3-4-3 line up.

A key factor is that I want to minimize the crushing disappointment of waiting in vain for my defenders to keep their clean sheet points. Waiting for a goal to be scored by my player rather than an opponent is much more fun.

Another factor is that flexibility is key early on.

I’m happy to switch to a four at the back formation, but from the off I want more freedom to hop on midfield or striker bandwagons that emerge. Having a squad with two 4.5 midfielders or a non-playing 4.5 striker leaves me with little wiggle room.

Should a playing 4.5 striker emerge, then I’ll consider a switch to four at the back. But until then, I’m happy to wait for a Wilfried Zaha or Charlie Austin goal rather than for the likes of Alonso or Cahill to lose their clean sheet.

Paul Says…

The growing trend for wing-backs could increasingly influence our transfer plans this season – and maybe even force a reassessment of the default 3-4-3 FPL formation.

Chelsea and Spurs’ penchant for three-man defences was followed by Arsenal in the latter stages of 2016/17, while both Manchester clubs and Everton have flirted with the formation this summer.

Essentially, that’s six of last season’s top seven teams potentially playing full-backs further up the pitch.

There’s also the fact that three Chelsea defenders supplied 170+ points in FPL last time.

But let’s not forget that the Blues managed just one clean sheet in their first six fixtures, while Marcos Alonso didn’t start a league match until Gameweek 7.

So initially, at least, I’ll be keeping faith in a three-man backline and adjust accordingly to on-field events as the season unfolds.

Building initial value also plays a part in my thinking here.

Particularly in the early parts of the season, most major bandwagons are typically focused on midfielders and forwards – a clean sheet doesn’t quite turn heads or drive up prices in the same manner that a goal does. I want my money on attackers to begin with.

The opening fixtures for both Southampton and West Brom also favour the tried and trusted approach. Charlie Austin, Manolo Gabbiadini or Jay Rodriguez could be quick to offer value and build on their two-goal showings over the summer.

With two big-hitters alongside in a three-man frontline, I’d prefer to punt on one or two in-form mid-price attackers with favourable fixtures rather than roll the dice on my approach and squad tactics from the off.

Mark Says…

I love the concept of Fantasy managers adapting their own tactics to fit the changes in real-world formations.

Clearly, a three-man defence with wing-backs is being seen as the way forward for many managers and teams in the Premier League, though I’m watchful for a backlash as methods to counter that tactic improve.

In Fantasy terms, I’m not about to move to a back four for Gameweek 1, but I am setting my team up to react and possibly shift once we have more data and information.

However, I fully intend to embrace the trend of investing in big-hitting defenders with my initial squad: I may well opt for both Antonio Valencia and perhaps Marcos Alonso, for example.

For one, they have a very strong opening fixture. But more significantly, they represent an effective way of holding funds that can be easily freed up with a simple downgrade to a team-mate or even a 4.5 alternative.

By downgrading one or even both to lower-priced options, I may just have the cash to move for early attacking bandwagons.

Experience tells me that real value will crop up in midfield. It could be temporary, and in short bursts, so I want a set-up capable of acting quickly when it does.

So 3-4-3 remains for me, but with the funds allocated to allow an easy shift to a 3-5-2 or even a four-man defence should meaningful value crop up in that position.

3,655 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    De Gea
    Kolasinac - BDavies - Cedric - Daniels
    Alli - Salah - William
    Lukaku - Jesus - Defoe

    0.5 in bank

    A. Daniels -> Danilo
    B. Defoe -> Firmino

    1. Prison Mike
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

    3. Intinny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team. I like the Davies option. Defoe-Firmino for me

    4. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

      1. Jimjam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks all! Seems unanimous

  2. Intinny
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RMT please!
    Gambling on no big front three for first few weeks
    Elliot Foster
    Kompany Kolasinac Valencia (Long Hunemeier)
    Eriksen KDB Salah Willian (Carroll)
    Lukaku Benteke Abraham

    1. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Solid

    2. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Like it

    3. Intinny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks for feedback. Still hoping I can find a more reliable 4.0 defender than Long though

  3. Triple P
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Attempt no. 3 for getting some expert advice on this:

    A) Aké + Ritchie + 0.5 itb
    B) Kola + Groß + 0.0 itb

    Thanks!

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

      1. Triple P
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, no Arsenal cover then Im affraid

    2. Silicon Vialli
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

      1. Triple P
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks! Not making it any easier but Im leaning towards B as well. Feels good having Arsenal cover

  4. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Why are peopke in here still interested in Willian after todays showing? I think Pedro has more appeal imo

    1. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Then again, 1 mln more expensive as well

    2. salazar1963
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      True. I think Hazard has more in 3 weeks though !

    3. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pedro is a million more.. I'm considering changing to Fabregas like I originally had..

  5. Bartowski
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    The great question of our age:

    A. Gabbi & Mane

    or

    B. Firminho & Pogba

    1. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B, by some distance

    2. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Firmino & Pogba

  6. wachu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Why Fraser didnt play today? Injury?

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No. Completely different team apart from Afobe. Manager wants everyone get minutes I guess

      1. wachu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, but it was last game before GW1. Is he nailed right now?

        1. Whazza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Not nailed but first choice people think

          1. wachu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Few good games and he'll be nailed 😉

      2. 32chickens
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yes
        But weird -playing Napoli,proper test,last preseason ,turn your best out

        1. wachu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I always do it in my last pre-season game in FM 🙂

    2. Garlana
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ake didn't play either, pretty sure he's nailed come the first game.

      1. wachu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I hope so. He've got big potencial IMO, so Ive got him in my team right now.

  7. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Foster
    Walker Cedric Alexander-Arnold
    KDB Mane Zaha Atsu
    Kane Lukaku Chicarito

    Myhill Carroll Mee Hunemeier

    Is this too punty?

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Atsu & AA only 'punts'. Both ltd gametime, AA gone in a few weeks.

      1. how now brown cow
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Only really want AA for 2 gw anyhow, but if he keeps place all well and good.

        Thoughts on Atsu? Seems to have had an excellent preseason.

  8. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    People gone off Willian then?

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I am considering taking him out

      chelsea don't look great and how long will he be in the team?

    2. how now brown cow
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Seems that way. Plenty of knee jerking.

    3. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Didnt have and had doubts about not having him. No doubts anymore

    4. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      undecided. Still a good way into Chelsea mid for a few weeks

    5. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Would you choose Fabregas over him for the first 3?

  9. Zinadine_Gerrard
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Been messing around with my team and settled on this, opinions from the experts please!

    Forster - (Elliot)
    Yoshida - Kolasinac - Ake - (Suttner - Rosenior)
    Redmond - KDB - Salah - Pogba (Carroll)
    Kane - Jesus - Abraham

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not an expert, but looks decent, most of the popular picks are there

    2. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That affordable?

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Nvm that's Jesus not Lukaku

    3. Intinny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team. Stephens is a bps machine so could be a better choice for Yoshida

    4. peng
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Might be more value in Begovic and Bertrand over Forster and Ake, plus gives you an easier to swap to someone like Trippier or Lindelof a couple weeks in if Southampton end up a mess. Looks good though.

  10. HamezMace
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Nearly settled, but if anyone has any thoughts on these options I'd be very grateful,

    Baines vs Bertrand
    Ritchie vs JWP
    Best 4.5m defender, will be benched anyway, Mee, Suttner, other?

    1. how now brown cow
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Berty for the fixtures
      Ritchie for nailedness
      I've gone Mee

      1. Zinadine_Gerrard
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This is my opinion as well. +1

      2. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Feel JWP isn't nailed? He's in a few teams on here

        1. how now brown cow
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I don't know. His involvement in goals last season was so high that you'd hope so, but they seem to have plenty of options.

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Suppose he's quite easy to transfer in if required, think he would be golden if nailed.

            1. how now brown cow
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Agreed.

    2. salazar1963
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Grab a 4.0 m defender if he's just fodder ?

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I have one 4.0, I'm playing 3-4-3, like to have a nailed 4.5m as first defensive sub.

    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      no baines, ritchie, mee/dunk

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Why no to baines? Fixtures?

        1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          yep. not on pens and bertrand much better

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Rooney on pens, we think?

    4. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bertie and Ritchie.Francis?

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Bournemouth a bit leaky?

  11. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Sorry if you've seen this already. Hoping To hear some more views. To heavy in defence? Kind of goes against this article too but seems this team has good balance and the defence is attacking.

    De Gea

    Azpi - Kolasinec - Cedric - Daniels

    Pogba - KDB - Willian

    Rodriguez - Kane - Lukaku

    -

    Subs: Elliot - Carroll - Loftus-Cheek - Rangel

    1. salazar1963
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nothing wrong with 2 many defenders. Gives you an edge to go 4-3-3 or 4-4-2

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      too much in defence

    3. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      But I can get a reasonable defender for 5m but not a decent mid for the same price.

      1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        You can rejig thst def to give a 6/6.5 mid. DDG is not a good choice imo terms of value, saves/bps. Valencia over Azpi due to fixtures & Chel look rusty.

  12. Cheers Geoff
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Van La Parra nailed for Huddersfield? As 5th mid but good preseason performances

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No

  13. TOPCAT1960
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Man Utd have such a gentle start to the season
    !
    Wonder what will be Mourinho's excuses if Lukaku/Pogba do not perform.

    Very expensive misfits or could be genius moves

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes i have doubled
      West ham will have a stinker

      1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        chicarito is bound to score

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Referees, the kitchen sink & unckie tom cobley are against him?

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Should be an injection of pace now that Ibra & Roo have gone.

    4. Garlana
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That first game Vs West ham just looks prime to be a draw imo.

    5. TOPCAT1960
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Meant to say up until GW 8 not just against th

    6. TOPCAT1960
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      *the Hammers* .... doh

  14. el polako
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    The more I tinker with my team the less happy I am with the shape of it.
    I wish the deadline was sooner.

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Do something more interesting

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Funnily enough the Austin benching/dropping and Bobby F pen's have made things a bit easier here 😆

      1. el polako
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Not for me, I was pretty set on my team in 352 formation, but being a big fan of Firmino i couldnt stop myself from bringing him in. Now with front 3 o Firmino, Lukaku and Jesus i got a right headache to build a team that can be amendet without major surgeries.
        May leave it till Thursday.

  15. mcgrejam
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Rate my team please

    De Gea
    Stones,Kolasinac,Cedric,Cahill
    Mane,Ritchie,De Bruyne
    Jesus,Gabbiadini,Lukaku

    Subs - Elliott,RLC,McArtur,Rangel

    Any good?

    1. salazar1963
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Excellent defence. Maybe 3 City players is 1 too many ?

      1. mcgrejam
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It's annoying cos I had Trippier instead of Stones before he got injured!

    2. Noobie
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes you have preferred city but I think it will pay off.. this is a nice 4-3-3 setup. Valencia in for one of them maybe? And if it saves money then cahill to alonso

    3. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good team. think I'm going 4 in defence too.

      De Gea

      Azpi - Kolasinec - Cedric - Daniels

      Pogba - KDB - Willian

      Rodriguez - Kane - Lukaku

      -

      Subs: Elliot - Carroll - Loftus-Cheek - Rangel

      1. mcgrejam
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Changed the defence a bit

        Foster
        Stones,Valencia,Cedric,Alonso
        Mane,Ritchie,De Bruyne
        Jesus,Gabbiadini,Lukaku

        Subs - Elliott,RLC,McArtur,Rangel

        Better or worse?

    4. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      too much in def, no spurs attackers

  16. nelluckram
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Willian -> Fabregas?

    1. salazar1963
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      William - Hazard in 3 weeks !

      1. nelluckram
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I plan to WC after GW3. I feel I need 1. Leaning towards Cesc after today...

  17. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Chicharito not expected to be ready then? Owned by 20%.

  18. Foozeball
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    What are the chances of Kevin Long ousting Tarkowski and claiming a starting berth? He's had plenty of playing time this preseason, but Tarkowski looks to be preferred at the moment

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Think that's right, back-up.

    2. Numb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Long has been there years and hardly played.

  19. Noobie
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hi guys! please rate my team. This is very close to my final iteration

    Foster (Elliot)
    Alonso - Hegazi - Suttner (Lowton, Hudson)
    Ward Prowse - Mane - De Bruyne - Fabregas (Carrol)
    Austin - Lukaku - Kane

    1. zeepeee
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      You might want to upgrade your defence?

      1. Noobie
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        0 mil in the bank.. 🙁 who should take the hit.. M/F or attack?

        1. zeepeee
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I would drop either lukaku/kane for jesus

          1. Noobie
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Got it.. Thanks!

    2. peng
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Austin not nailed.

      I think theres a better way to spread the money around at the back than Alonso and the rest cheap. Even downgrading Alonso to Bailly or something lets you get two 5.0s (Southampton, Daniels, Dawson etc)

      1. Noobie
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Austin to jay rodriguez or chicha woks?

        Yes but alonso is very attack minded.. wanted that upside..

  20. FC_Dzbany
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Rate my team please:

    DDG (Elliot)
    Kolasinac, Luiz, Cedric (Rangel, Hunemeier)
    KDB, Salah, Willian, Carroll (RLC)
    Kane, Lukaku, Austin

    Major concerns are Austin and Carroll. Had Chica first, but not sure at all.
    Thanks for any suggestions!

    1. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If Austin was nailed, that would be a lovely team. He isn't though...

    2. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      happy with Carroll starting each week?

      1. FC_Dzbany
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No, but couldn't find anyone better. I will see how about RLC and probably rotate.
        Most probably I will downgrade DDG to Foster and Kolasinac to Trippier and then be able to change Austin to Chica or Carroll to other mid - but still won't get anyone good at 5/5.5 unfortunately.

        Thanks!

    3. Noobie
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Really unsure about Arsenal's defense. But Kolasinac is a decent threat at set pieces. Could you degrade him to a 5m (say Ake/ Charlie Daniels) and upgrade Carrol? Austin may not start every match but will definitely play some part on every match. He is a real goal threat, so be assured he will give points (I have him too :P)

      1. FC_Dzbany
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It's possible that I will downgrade Kolasinac and upgrade Carroll. I have a feeling I have a lot of money in defense, and I am not happy with midfielders. Planning to take WC before GW4, so probably then it will change.

        1. Noobie
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Makes sense

  21. Russell
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Currently got Tadic in my mid - is he nailed?

    Or would anyone recommend an alternative at that price?

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Redmond 😛

      1. Russell
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Better than Tadic?

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I honestly haven't seen any of them preseason, so my word is rubbish, but I like Redmond as a player. I'll look in more detail this week, but hopefully he's going to be nailed and getting into decent positions.

          1. Russell
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Cheers, same boat!

  22. Cornholi0
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Alonso-gate:

    The thing that I really like with Alonso is that when Chelsea attacks, he often continue his runs inside the box, and is often one of 3/4/5 chelsea players who has entered the opponents danger area.

    He is 1,88 and if he often find himself in those position close to the opponents goal, he will most likely deliver some goals or deflected assist, and add some free kicks to that it`s starting to get hard to ignore him for me.

    7.0 is a stiff price for a defender, but for a attacking player for the champions, that get clean sheets points aswell, it is hard to ignore for me.

    Averaged 5,7 points per game last year. Hazard had 6,2

    What do you guys think?

    1. Foozeball
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The whole adding "-gate" at the ends of things just makes me cringe. It's a trend that needs to die

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alonso-gate? Click-baited into reading something I didn't even click on! Haha

      He's worth it if you can fit him in imo. But I might use his fixtures to justify leaving him out to myself if I end up going without

      1. Cornholi0
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sorry for that guys, my english isn`t the best so thought that was a good way to start it with :/

        1. nelluckram
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Your English is close to perfect dude - Qualified English teacher

          1. Cornholi0
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Thank you mate. Appreciate that comment

            1. nelluckram
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              No problem man. Truth!

      2. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Why are you called Cornhole?

        1. Cornholi0
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          ...

        2. nelluckram
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Beavis and Butthead reference

    3. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I've gone Azpi. 0.5 cheaper and got similar returns last season

      1. Cornholi0
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Azpilicueta had 4,5 points per game last season. Played 7 games more than Alonso

    4. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He was a gem to have last year but that 7.0 price tag. Azpi + 0.5 seems a better option to me, if he can nail down RWB...

    5. Freddo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He's a better fantasy player than a real one, that may be a problem as his spot looks like one that can be improved on.

      Came off today but he was on a yellow so I wouldn't read too much into that.

  23. Steve The Shrewdie
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Choices Choices Choices

    A) Kola or Bellerin - want an Arsenal defender
    B) Fab or Willian want a Chelsea mid
    C) Gabb or Austin - Soton's start looks good (on paper)

    Rest of team
    Foster/Elliott
    Alonso/Walker/Rangel/Hunemeir
    KDB/Alli/Matic/Milijovevic
    Firmino/Lukaku

    0.5 left -switch Foster to Hart week 4

    Any views appreciated.

    1. MartialMatas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A Kola
      B Willian
      C Gabb

  24. MartialMatas
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    thoughts on this?

    Foster Elliot
    Danilo Bertrand Mee Clark Suttner
    KDB Pogba Zaha Willian Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Abraham

    I've got 1m in the bank. Thinking of getting Darmian if He starts the super cup

    1. 2580enter
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Thinking off Geting him too it's just will he start like

      1. nelluckram
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Darmian likely to start LB yeah. We'll know more after the Madrid game

    2. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mee has awful fixtures but looking good bar that. Consider TAA to start?

      1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        mee has vg home fixtures

  25. Numb
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    People here seem to put a lot of stock in pre season performances.

  26. 2580enter
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this
    Hart
    Valencia ake Berelin
    Mikkn kdb feabrges jwp
    Kane firmino vardy

    1. zeepeee
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      RIP english..

      1. nelluckram
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        English*

    2. TOPCAT1960
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      First time this pre season run up I have seen Vardy in a team, nice differential if he does not blank

      Team 7/10

    3. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I like that team man. Vardy is one I'm seriously considering. Shrewd

  27. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Best Liverpool option ? Based on stats etc.

    1. Numb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Look at members area!

    2. TOPCAT1960
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Of the ones likely to play has to be the Firm surely

    3. nelluckram
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      All things taken into account, I'd say Salah. He is the most fit player so less likely to be rested for CL, I feel. Liverpool fan

  28. hannu
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    This is where I'm at rn. Not super confident about the NEW and BOU doubles.

    Elliot Fabianski
    Valencia Cedric Francis Mee Lascelles
    KDB Salah Zaha Fraser Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Rodriguez

    Thoughts?

  29. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    So Firmino is on pens, and looks nailed to start. He's got to be a decent 3rd striker. Why has Willian lost a lot of people's votes?

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      had a poor game and chelsea looked crap in mid

  30. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    1.Forster + Valencia + Salah
    2.DDG + Stephens + Mane
    3. Foster + Valencia + Mane