The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

City’s Bosnian striker makes the most of his cameo role by netting City’s winner against a plucky Palace, while Hull’s midfield quarterback hits double figures on a day that saw Fantasy managers plunged into panic by the absence of captaincy candidate, Wayne Rooney.

The Game Changer

Man City’s team sheet was the focus of our morning anxiety and, while Rooney’s omission eventually overshadowed Manuel Pellegrini’s reshuffles, the City lineup was to prove pivotal in our Saturday scoring. With the likes of Yaya Toure and Alvaro Negredo absent, it was left to Edin Dzeko to make the difference as a brave Palace rearguard was eventually breached by the Bosnian’s decisive strike.

Subject of our “Differentials” article and my own pre-amble this morning, Dzeko’s intervention will have provided rewards for a minority of Fantasy managers who took a risk on the City striker.

As my own ramblings mentioned, Dzeko looks to be a one-week proposition – unlikely to feature in Wednesday’s starting lineup, he was a trade who had to produce today to justify the gamble. With maximum Fantasy Premier League (FPL) bonus likely to follow, a nine point return, potentially doubled with the captaincy, looks a notable contribution in a Gameweek which seems destined for modest returns.

Sadly for Dzeko and his owners, his winner, however precious, is unlikely to strengthen his case for consistent starts in Pellegrini’s plans. He’s likely be shown a quick exit and thanked for his efforts on a day which saw the big names blank.

The Underused

Heralded as a superb summer signing, Tom Huddlestone has been integral to Hull City’s impressive start to their Premier League campaign. Stationed in a deep-lying midfield role, turning defence into attack with sublime simplicity, the £5 million signing from Spurs seemed unlikely to tempt Fantasy interest. Today’s impressive 14-point haul may well change that – albeit briefly.

Huddlestone’s superb dead-ball delivery has been a feature of the Tigers’ season but, today, his two assists were accompanied by a first goal of the campaign in a 6-0 drubbing of René Meulensteen’s Fulham.

That was his first Premier League goal since 2011 – underlining the fact that Huddlestone’s appeal perhaps remains limited. At just 4.8 in the FPL, however, the playmaker is an assured starter who will likely contribute further assists.

Surely a contender for Hull’s player of the year, Huddlestone is exactly the kind of midfielder that Fantasy games and their scoring systems should be trying to reach. Huddlestone may claim maximum FPL bonus points from today’s convincing win but that will be only the second time he’s been recognised by the BPS. Arguably, as one of the season’s top performers so far, we should have had reason to take notice way before today’s haul. Huddlestone is one of several midfielders “underused” and undervalued in Fantasy terms.

The Selection Poser

Rooney’s absence from the United team sheet with further groin gripes was undoubtedly the biggest blow on a day which saw rotation bite. United stuttered without his influence but David Moyes and United have already confirmed that he is likely to make his return against Spurs on Wednesday. With FPL vice captains kicking in, the onus will now be back on Luis Suarez to produce at Chelsea – the impact of Rooney’s injury could well be minor, then.

Even so, with Yaya Toure omitted by Pellegrini, we saw two key figures in the established “template” go AWOL, just a few days after Aaron Ramsey’s injury. Such setbacks could yet cause a shake-up in the rankings and mini-leagues, although few Fantasy managers seem likely to have benefited significantly from today’s events.

Tomorrow’s encounter at the Bridge will be more important that ever. Should Suarez blank again and Theo Walcott, backed by some with armband, produce at Newcastle, we may yet see Gameweek 19 have a significant impact.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A nice write up on the merits of Huddlestone. A man I have championed for decades on here with the amusement of the unrefined. Class player that makes the key skill of passing a football look devine.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      good player but not too much fpl wise except for today - proof is the size of his afro 😉

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Still useless in FPL.

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    3. Spike ⚽️
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      Spurs loss and Hull's gain

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    4. the axolotl
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      was a good option a few years ago for a time. brilliant player though in real terms, love watching him play.

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    5. tm245
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      Some of the underlying stats like him a lot, actually.

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    6. MJ6987
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      You know it's been a bad GW when Huddlestone is highlighted.

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  2. GREENDREAMS11
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Does anyone think that Dzeko might start alongside Negredo at Swansea ?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      maybe

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
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        10 years, 5 months ago

        City toiled a bit today. He might have just put himself in contention for more gametime, Scored the winner and came close to a 2nd.

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        1. Strificus
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          10 years, 5 months ago

          Dzeko was lucky to leave that game with a goal.

          Selfish player who killed more plays than he created. He's a creativity killer and doesn't fit the Man City style of making those around you better.

          I'd plant him on the bench or on a train.

          Man City has no shortage of people who can score; they need to retain players who solidify the team. Dzeko is hurting more than helping.

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I think thats a bit harsh tbh, He played Milner (I think) in and didn't really get any decent service with the exception of the assist for his goal and maybe one Fernandinho pass. City were poor today and Palace played well.

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    2. Whistle
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      hope so.

      silva is out so possibly negredo slightly behind dzeko?

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    3. Rafabio
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      With Silva out, yes

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    4. Champy
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      Could do but Jovetic may get a run out

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    5. GREENDREAMS11
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers all. I might leave him in just now then.

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    6. OShaughnessy
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Too similar a player. Unless City starts two up front which I just don't see happening.

      Better yet, Dzeko wouldn't be worth a punt when compared to others we could consider.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
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        10 years, 5 months ago

        I put Dzeko in today purely as a punt as there was the thought Negredo would be rested, The two of them started together against Fulham but Pellegrini changed things around early in the 2nd half but today City weren't very effective with just one up front. I'll put him in but I've got decent cover anyway if he doesn't play,

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  3. tm245
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any opinions on Ki vs Puncheon vs Huddlestone would be appreciated. Checked out a few Members Stats but do any of you own them? Or have an under 5m mid to recommend? Thanks.

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    1. Baines on Toast...
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      If you can afford Sterling, I'd say he blows them away right now.

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      1. tm245
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Got him and agree, though his time is limited as well -- the Morrison/Sterling rotation wasn't built for the long haul.

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  4. smash
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Is Giroud worth considering as a differential? dropping again in price or is Podolski too much of a threat/

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      not until he gets his "rest"

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      1. smash
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Ha, yeh I'll look elsewhere
        cheers.

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    2. GREENDREAMS11
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      I agree with Bemba but he is a decent shout when wally plays. Look at his early season stats when Walcott was in the team. Wally got injured and his points dried up.

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      1. smash
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I'm really trying to get someone in to make ground, was thinking about his points at the start of the season, good point with Wally back, guess I'll see how tomorrow pans out?
        cheer.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
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          10 years, 5 months ago

          That aside Smash I got Podolski in this week. Need to see a bit of form from Giroud before I would invest but could work if he picks up again.

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  5. the axolotl
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    repost;

    dempsey was in the game for spurs at 7.5 mil and then disappeared. where'd he go?

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    1. Ady87
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Didn't he go to America?

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    2. Champy
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      MLS

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    3. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      i know he went to MLS, but he was still in fpl only last week and now he's not which is strange. he was 7.5mil because i'd asked on here thinking he wasn't in the game, and someone referred me to the spurs squad.

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      1. Declan-
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I'm pretty sure Fpl put him back in last week before taking him out again. He won't be put back in until the transfer window opens

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    4. OShaughnessy
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He's still 'listed' but, I don't know what's going to happen upon his return.

      Some of the more seasoned players could probably help explain what'll happen...
      (e.g. change in price / when he'll be properly listed)

      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/stats/elements/?element_filter=te_18&stat_filter=total_points

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      1. the axolotl
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        that's even more weird. so he's on the stats page, but not the transfers page (where he was last week). they must be repricing him or something.

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  6. Lanley Staurel
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Average estimates. Looking in my mini league is c11.

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    1. The EJJ
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      7

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Average 8.

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    3. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      8

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  7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Anelka facing minimium 5 game ban

    Nicolas Anelka's in serious trouble. Five-game ban is the minimum punishment if the FA charges him & finds him guilty

    https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/417032945937838080

    Anelka bandwagon de-railed

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    2. Robe Wan
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He can claim it's not racist

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    3. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hold on Rooney to Anelka (C) then it seems, cheers Bemba!

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    4. Lord Flashheart
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      How the f can he do it? He is black for f sake!!
      Don't understand how dumb can person be.

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      1. Ted Maul
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Most jews aren't black...

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    5. TorresMagic™
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      Closing replies to this as it's moving into unwanted territory.

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  8. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    20 with to go, not including captain 😆

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      4 to go

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    2. Declan-
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      Green arrow tonight at least 🙂

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    3. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      17 with Wally (VC), Coleman, Disitn, Cabaye, Suarez, Remy, Barkley will be subbed in for Rooney (C)

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  9. Baines on Toast...
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    0.3 to play with to upgrade Silva...I'm feeling a Santi punt depending on how tomorrow goes.

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    1. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You can't upgrade Silva

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  10. Moorinho
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Look who's gone to the top of sub 5.2 midfielder category! Also, does anyone know when Boruc is back?

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  11. Kerrazy
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    People keen on Dempsey, its not like hes gonna start straight into the first team. Jeez

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    1. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Of course he will, Fulham are dire!

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I cant see why not, it is not like they have anyone better. Just give him the ball and get out of the way

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  12. TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Overall Top 50 averaged 5.68 before hits.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      4.88 after.

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    2. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Awful figures everywhere!

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        Just want the update out of the way.

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  13. 13allack
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Doesn't Silva's one-game ban increase Dzeko's chances of a start vs Swansea??

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    1. Rafabio
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yip!

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  14. white lightning
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Lol took a -8 hit & brought in Rooney (c), Y. Toure & Sterling for Welbeck, Hazard & Ramsey.

    I have Suarez as my vc & Jags & Burner as auto subs. My 3rd auto sub is Oviedo who is unlikely to play so if any of my others players get a rest (Ozil) I'm struggling.

    This is now my amended team
    Mignolet
    Coleman, Mert, Terry, Jags, Burner
    Ozil, Cabaye, Sterling
    Suarez (vc), Remy

    Boruc, Oviedo, Rooney (c), Y. Toure

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  15. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    All these people in a mad rush to sell Silva

    He's out for 1 game FFS

    I'll be playing 4-3-3

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You could find a good replacement & outscore the alternative by a bit.

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    2. Demí
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Even so, what's wrong with selling when the wildcard is around the corner. Need to maximise the points whenever possible

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        well I won't be wildcarding till late, so I'm not selling, but I suppose if you're going for it as soon as the window opens may as well take a punt

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    3. Baines on Toast...
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      returns for newcastle away, then there's the WC on the table.

      Also the fact he just blanked at home to Palace...

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      1. BantamPhil
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Palace had 11 men behind the ball and he was very close to getting returns in the first half if you watched the game

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    4. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      agree

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    5. BantamPhil
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'll be playing Bannan

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    6. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Let them sell him, more differential when he comes back

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  16. Sif
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    19 from 4 (-4)
    🙂

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  17. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    The only football team with a 100% win rate against Barcelona is Dundee United.

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  18. Rafabio
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Baines better start!

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lukaku needs him too.

      Friends Cup rival has Baines (c)

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  19. Willis.
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Oh wow, woke up to find I had no captain. That sucks.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Vice?

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      1. Willis.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yoyo

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Wow! Unlucky.

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    2. Pedram
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Same here.

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  20. JWF
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Been away all day visiting family. Scores generally looking poor (at least mine does!), how's everyone doing? How big a sh*t storm was there when the Rooney news broke and what's the deal with Januzaj?

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'm on 19 with 6 to play but a good few have been left with no captain. Average is 8 according to smarty pants and even lower than that in the top 10k. Very strange week

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      most peoples scores were dire 🙂 Robbie Savage announced the news first, and most were calling BS. it was very amusing as a non owner 🙂

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    3. Demí
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Januzaj was rotated is the consensus. Not sure whether he'll start next game, wasn't very impressive when he came on. Although, neither was kagawa during the game.

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  21. Kno
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Williams -> evans this week worked out pretty good. Small comfort after bringing in silva this week as well.

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  22. MattysFantasyFooty
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Highest 72

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Pathetic.

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    2. Pinky and Brain
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Dead team.....

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  23. Alejo - CFC
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    If Lukaku fails again -> Podolski

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  24. Lloyd Xmas
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Perspective!
    A 10 point gain/loss in a game week when most scores 70+ is just the same as a 10 point gain/loss when most score 30+?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Same difference.

      Better to have a bad week when scores are low.

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      1. Lloyd Xmas
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yes TM ,thats the point i was trying to make.Put every week in perspective and it may not be as bad as first thought.
        Saying that every week you are alive is a good week : - )

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    2. Robe Wan
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Correct

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  25. Scottys Army
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How does this look for a WC draft

    3-5-2 strategy

    Krul

    Coleman Chester Ward

    Walcott Silva Ozil Ya Ya Hazard

    Suarez Remy

    subs Mannone Berahino burner gabbidon

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    1. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      What happens if Aguero comes back what would you do? But apart from that I really like that midfield and team overall

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Swap zil for rooney & you're laughing.

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      i think there is more flexibility with 3 up front. could cause problems.

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    4. FollowFollow
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'd go Gerrard instead of Yaya if fit, pools fixtures much better than City, upgrade a defender with the change

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  26. Champy
    • 12 Years
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    Average 8

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      7 more than me 🙁

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  27. MJ6987
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Assuming Sterling gets through unscathed tomorrow I will bring him in for Ravel as my FT.

    Would you do Lukaku to Negredo for a hit as well?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Wait a day ffs.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        What difference will that make?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Other injuries for starters. Lukaku doing well.

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  28. Ady87
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    24 from 5 with 6 to go = 186k GW rank.

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  29. Alejo - CFC
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Highest scorer had Anelka captain. LOL

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yes i did 😎

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