Opinion

The Burning Question: Is Eden Hazard Really ‘Essential’?

With the highest score in the Fantasy Premier League last season, Eden Hazard is hot property heading into the 2015/16 campaign. At the time of writing, the Chelsea winger is far and away the most popular player in the game and is owned by an astonishing 56.9% of Fantasy managers. While the majority clearly see him as a must-have, could Hazard’s hefty £11.5m price tag be better used elsewhere? With this in mind we ask the Burning Question: Is Eden Hazard Really ‘Essential’?

Applebonkers says…
Tantalisingly for Chelsea fans, Hazard should still be on an upward curve in his career. With the same manager in place and same team-mates around him, you’d therefore estimate at least a similar sort of output this time round.

It would have taken a price tag north of 12m to start window shopping elsewhere. Assuming Diego Costa passes the penalty baton back to Hazard after their Gameweek 38 shenanigans last season, then he remains the only big hitter in midfield with that trump card in his locker.

Essential is a word I prefer to avoid, but in a game of so many unknowns there is a comforting feeling of predictability about the Belgian.

Simon March (2014/15’s Fantasy Premier League winner) says…
“Essential” is a bit of a derided term around these parts but I do believe there are particular players that, in certain circumstances, it may too dangerous to go without. Right now, for me, Eden Hazard, falls firmly within that category.

Even if we look past the fact that he averages over 200 points a season, that he was the top FPL point scorer last season or that he is the standout performer among the reigning Premier League champions, it’s impossible to ignore his ownership percentage. At the moment, Hazard sits in over 56% of squads and he will also be a popular captaincy choice. This means that, while his ownership remains so high, the matter of whether he performs well or not will, each week, be a hugely influential factor, potentially the most decisive factor, on rankings throughout the game. I’m not sure I’d want to bet weekly against a player of that quality at those stakes.

Eventually, a broader range of high-scoring players will emerge and Hazard’s ownership figures will start to be dispersed among those alternatives. Other options will become more viable. Until then, however, the cost of owning Hazard may well be the cost of keeping up with the competition.

Jonty says…
I said Angel Di Maria was essential last year and look where that got me. If any player is to take the mantle in 2015/16 it is Hazard. The Belgian’s huge ownership means that if he scores a penalty and gains bonus points in Gameweek 1, non-owners face a potentially disappointing start to the season.

His track record is also impressive. Last year he racked up 233 points and part of his appeal was an ability to gain FPL bonus points from just an assist, goal or even his general passing play. This season, I think he can easily gain a similar total points haul, but he may struggle to match his bonus tally of 42, with passing prowess given less prominence in 2015/16’s bonus allocation.

This year his price also has to be taken into account. Last term he finished on 10.8m, which was remarkable value for his points return. He now starts at 0.7 more, while team-mates Cesc Fabregas, Diego Costa and midfield rivals like Theo Walcott are less. Can he offer the same bang for his buck at a new inflated price? This year I think there may be better value heavy hitters in the 8m to 10.5m category.

There is also Chelsea’s poor set of fixtures early on, with West Brom and Manchester City amongst their opening trio of opponents. Over the season I have no doubt Hazard will be amongst the top scorers but arguably he won’t over the first three Gameweeks.

I’ve tried drafting teams with or without him. The ones without all look better, with Fabregas allowing a whopping 2.5m to be spent elsewhere. But then I look at Hazard’s ownership, his track record and his strong performances in pre-season and that word ‘essential’ comes back into my thoughts again.

D1sable says…
Season long I’m going to have to say ‘yes’ with the current information we have. Of course Fantasy Football can spring surprises and I have learnt not to completely write off anyone, so while I’m open to changing that view, as it stands, he offers, at least for my mind, the best route into the probable League champion’s attack.

He’s still young at 24 and I can only see progression in his ability and performances. He’s 100% nailed on, started all 38 matches last season, he’s on penalties, and rarely succumbs to injury. He also loves bonus points (although with the new system perhaps slightly less), which makes him a great Captain choice.

Having said all that I’m not starting with him. His fixtures and early season form in the past have made me look elsewhere (perhaps naively) but this is mainly due to me planning an early wildcard. Would I advise anyone to follow suit who wasn’t planning on hitting the button? Absolutely not.

Evs says…
Do we have anyone else in his mold, with the exception of Sergio Aguero? Arguably not.

We no longer have a Gareth Bale, Frank Lampard or Steven Gerrard, who in their prime ripped up midfield scoring charts. The only competitor I see to him in FPL points scoring is Alexis Sanchez, who seems to share points amongst other Arsenal attacking colleagues.

Last year I went for Cesc Fabregas over Hazard to save a couple of quid. This worked out well over the first few months as both players went toe-to-toe on points. The cheaper Fabregas’ price rose, I refused to sell him and by Christmas I was left behind and was chasing the pack without Hazard, who by then had become a points juggernaut.

So for me, once bitten twice shy. Hazard is the prime midfield option and is the first name on my team sheet.

Ryan says…
No player is essential. The elite options have been priced accordingly and thus we cannot have all of them. With a budget of 100m, sacrifices will need to be made so a team cannot include all of Sergio Aguero, Eden Hazard and Alexis Sanchez plus a multitude of 8.5 – 10m options. With so much value in Arsenal’s attack, Sanchez could be dropped from that list, leaving Aguero and Hazard as two who might be considered ‘essential’. Even then, though, having both would use nearly a quarter of the budget and that will have serious implications on the rest of your team.

Going without Aguero early on might help matters but once he returns and starts a good run of fixtures in Gameweek 4 you’ll want to get him in. As a way of releasing funds, Hazard owners will be tempted to sell and it begs the question- why would you want Hazard for his first three matches, that include a visit to Manchester City and West Brom. Perhaps less funds spent on Chelsea assets might not be a bad idea to start off with.

Mark says…
Hazard is scaring the pants off me: I can’t remember going into Gameweek 1 facing a decision which I felt could genuinely make or break my season.

I’ve got nagging reservations about Chelsea over their opening fixtures and there’s no doubt that the funds liberated by omitting the Belgian can transform my squad in key areas.

While Hazard has, at times, looked effective in pre-season, Chelsea have appeared to be predictable and over reliant on his ability to break open opponents. For me, it stands to reason that Swansea will devise tactics to shutdown this avenue of attack and go all out to block supply and impede Hazard’s progress – by fair means or foul. They witnessed Arsenal’s stubborn resistance at Wembley and Garry Monk will take heart and notes from that.

Following that tricky Gameweek 1 match-up, Hazard and Chelsea go to the Etihad in a scenario that will likely see Jose Mourinho show his traditional brand of bus-based caution in a bid to smash and grab the points. Then it’s off to the Hawthorns, with Tony Pulis set to make shackling Hazard the number one priority. Everton and Arsenal follow on in the next three. In short, it’s a hugely testing start for Mourinho’s side.

That all adds up to stuttering beginnings for last season’s top Fantasy asset and, potentially, with Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero active and in demand, we may even start to see Hazard’s huge ownership begin to decline, along with his price.

This all sounds convincing but the flipside is that Hazard will likely end the season as the top scoring player across the Fantasy games. Mourinho will surely find a way of protecting him, granting him space and ensuring he’s the major influence. However, given their early opponents, I’m not sure how quickly that will come together. Until then, I’m wavering.

Is Hazard essential? He is to Chelsea’s title hopes. Right this minute, he’s not to my initial Fantasy lineup.

Like I say, I may have just broken my season already.

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  1. Well you know, Triffic
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Will Baines be back on pens this season? I feel he's the forgotten man of FPL after what happened last season.

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Nope, Martinez betrayed him, like Grima Wormtongue to Rohan.

    2. Mull
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He'll be an option at some point but with those fixtures there's no need to worry.

  2. Fanta sea
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Is clyne worth the 5.5 mil? 2 assists and 2 goals last season with 13 clean sheets.

    What are the chances that he can do similar at pool?

    1. Joga Bonito®
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Assisting Benteke could be beautiful.

    2. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He played for a better team though.

      1. The Nuttman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Oh no you didn't!

        1. Royal5
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          😀

        2. TheSteel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          😀

      2. BERGKOP
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Defensively, yes.

  3. Joga Bonito®
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Team without Costa

    Would maybe have Walcott instead of Alexis first game week and switch in.

    Courtois Hennessey

    Kos Cedric Coates Francis Saylor

    Sanchez Fab Mata Mane Ibe

    Aguero Sakho Wilson

    Yay or Nay?

  4. Numb
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hazard by FPL numbers

    No. of FPL appearances = 38
    No. of appearances where he scored and/or assisted = 22
    No. of appearances where he 'blanked' = 16

    Total FPL Points = 233 (highest)
    Average points per appearance = 6.13 (second behind Aguero with 6.55)

    1. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      And he is only going to get better.

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        He should still be gradually improving given his age, yes

    2. Numb
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Those are the bare facts - make your own mind up

    3. Lazarus Star
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      What if the first 16 appearances he blanks?

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Unlikely. I am not trying to sway anyone either way, just laying out the facts - he scores and assists a lot, he also blanks quite a lot.

        1. isacki: full casual
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Exactly. The maximum scoring is also quite modest as I'm getting at below.

          Season keeper? Quite possibly, but not a very exciting one.

          1. Numb
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Fully agree - he is not explosive like an Aguero or a Walcott but he ticks along and racks up the points quietly.

            1. isacki: full casual
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Obviously hindsight comes into this, but I'm pretty sure that if you switched between Sanchez/Silva/Sterling at sensible times last season you would have got an equal if not greater score, plus money in the bank.

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      2013/14 = 14 goals, 10 assists
      2014/15 = 14 goals, 10 assists

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        That's consistency for you. I guess it is reasonable to expect similar this time around.

      2. Jose's Magic Omelette
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I was just going to ask for this info, thanks!

        Nice avatar BTW...

    5. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      think you can have 2/4 of Hazard, Aguero, Costa and Sanchez. For me its Aguero and Hazard

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Pens....

      2. Numb
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        At the moment, yes, 2 from 4 maximum. Maybe once the bargains emerge you can squeeze in a third one

    6. Well you know, Triffic
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Listen mate, he's had a bad pre-season and is overweight. He's obviously a crap pick.

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Lol, this

    7. Numb
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No. of Double Digit Hauls = 9

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I think when he scores or assists it usually comes with a BAPS-guarantee due to his all-round involvement, which also helps his points tally

    8. Numb
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No. of bonus points = 42

  5. reason17
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    A) Ward
    B) Bassong
    C) Richards
    D) Prodl

    1. Jimjam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      B

  6. isacki: full casual
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I think it's very possible to do without Hazard for at least the short term, such as the first few games. I think people have a slightly exaggerated fear of how much Hazard can punish them for going without him.

    For example, what was the highest number of goals Hazard scored in a PL game last season?

    And what was the highest number of assists Hazard got in a PL game last season?

    The answers might surprise you.

    1. isacki: full casual
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Answers (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/eden-hazard/leistungsdaten/spieler/50202/plus/?saison=2014).

      Highest number of goals: 1.

      Highest number of assists: 1.

      1. Lazarus Star
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Likeliest point deficit against the 56% ownership =(5 + 4 + 2 + 1) x 2 = 24 points

        1. Lazarus Star
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Plus Baps

        2. isacki: full casual
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          That's not the likeliest point deficit, but the maximum - I take it you've assumed 1 goal and 1 assist there which is the highest score he got. He got that twice, in 38 games.

          It also assumes he's captained by all of the 56% ownership

          And that the player you have instead of him scores 0 points.

          1. Lazarus Star
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Not worse case but likeliest case.

            Exactly Should also consider the two players you have instead (as Haz will cost a downgrade somewhere) blanks....likelyhood you have a consistent player captain (equally likely and capable of the same).

            Non owners are not going to be left behind in the first few weeks. We don't know what we don't know.

            Occum's Razor

            1. isacki: full casual
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              That is the worst case deficit, exactly. Not the likeliest case.

              Yep, I'd say non-owners won't be left behind in the first few weeks. The point was that not owning Hazard is not the end of the world. At least, for the short term.

              1. Lazarus Star
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Will he score high over the season? - History suggest yes most likely

                Will he score high over the first few game weeks? - Pre-season suggests very unlikely and if he does you will most likely have a similar and likely high scoring player as captain instead of him.

                1. isacki: full casual
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Yep - will monitor but doing without for now.

      2. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        He scored hat trick in the past

        1. Lazarus Star
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Likely to constantly get a goal and assist though when he doesn't blank

        2. isacki: full casual
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          He did, two seasons ago yes, against Newcastle.

    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Hey Isacki 🙂

      Yeah he's been more of a steady eddie. But that's one of the reasons I think it's a good idea to start with him - that's how you'll get the most out of him.

      1. isacki: full casual
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Hey man. I think if you have him, you've got to keep him. He's steady... he's a bit of a... David Silva actually!

  7. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    A)

    Ruddy
    Mertesacker, Coates
    Ozil, Chadli
    Benteke

    B)

    Pantilimon
    Koscielny, Cedric
    Walcott, Milner
    Sakho

    1. JaydenLFC87
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      B but this is close

    2. Fanta sea
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Tough one but I'd probably go with B

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A

  8. JaydenLFC87
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    YAY or NAY to the below team???

    Know Defence is a little light but believe I have 3 sure starters and gives me potentially 3 top prem goalscorers this season upfront..

    Kasper
    Francis\Richards\Coates
    Walcott\Haz\Mane\Sinclair
    Rooney\Benteke\Aguero

    Hennessey\Fletcher\Targett\Oxford

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Interesting tactic. Always been tempted. Takes balls.

    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      if Targett or Oxford could be Huth i would say go for it

      1. JaydenLFC87
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Downgrade Walcott to Ozil??

        1. Jose's Magic Omelette
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          You bet.

    3. RedLobstar
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      sterling for walcott maybe

  9. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    How's this looking?

    Ruddy - Rudd
    Cedric - Azpilicueta - Coates - Huth - Gomez
    Hazard - Chadli - Mane - Ramsey - Westwood
    Aguero - Benteke - Wilson

    0.5 ITB.

    🙂

    1. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Why do you have a 13.0m non-starter for GW1?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Rooney can be a place holder come Saturday morning if Kun's out. Still think Kun will have a 25 min cameo on monday - and history suggests that's a good thing.

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Spread the Hazard money

    3. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      What kind of nutter has 0.5m ITB with an Aguero team 😛

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        .. 😉

      2. Lazarus Star
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        An Aguero & Hazard team

    4. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      not worried about Aguero's virus?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        could be gone by monday

    5. JaydenLFC87
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Looking good. Like the Westwood inclusion as cheap 5th mid

    6. Fanta sea
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'd switch ramsey for depay.

      Also anything in the bank is wasted. You don't gain from it. Add the extra 0.5 in the defence or get sterling instead of ramsey.

    7. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think it's pretty strong all things considered.

    8. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      tasty wc idea for gw3 when kun is back and has a reasonable fixture

  10. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Still some notable faces missing from round these parts. Don't they know the season starts in 2 days?!

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      they've become gravless spammers

    2. Numb
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Like who?

      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        RonH (R.I.P)

        1. Numb
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Life ban 🙁

          1. Bubz
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Did you used to go under a different name?

    3. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Probably can't get a word in

    4. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Name and shame them

    5. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The Nuttman is part of the wave of new notable faces.

  11. Cooldog1450
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Will Cedric start for southampton?

    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Does he have any competition?

    2. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yes.

  12. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Mark changing my mind. Scared to go on my FPL page and to sell Hazard. I know the options will be tones and coming back from there will be difficulty

  13. Lazarus Star
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Is the Sanchez, Haz and Aguero team the biggest puzzle to fit together?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No.

      1. Lazarus Star
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        But at what cost? Get the three forget the rest?

    2. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It's not a puzzle is it, it will fall in to place.

  14. The Raging Bull
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    lot of FPL managers on here simply regurgitating others managers views, without carrying out their own research.

    For example Francis from Bournemouth and Cedric from Southampton are 'good' going forward. Based on which statistics? Premiership is a different level!

    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think to begin with we just want safe starters. All of the Bournemouth fans here seem to think Francis is 'nailed on', so I'll gladly take their word for it. Cedric is a cheap way into the Saints defence, so I can understand that too.

    2. GoRedz
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      We are not gonna reinvent the wheel neither.
      I remember last year that Siggy was praised pre-season in here, and I'm happy that I listened to the right people.

      I think the Cedric pick is mainly cheapest player from southampton, and francis is nailed in a team with good opening fixtures.

      1. The Raging Bull
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I can understand the Siggy punt, he was an established Premiership player who had a good pre season playing in the 'hole'. Whereas, Cedric and Francis are relatively new to the premiership and don't forget Bournemouth conceded 45 goals in the Championship last season, a figure likely to increase against better opposition in the premiership.

        Also, there are other nailed on 4.5m and 5.0m defenders in the premiership who are proven with better defences than Bournemouth.

    3. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      They have potential what else can you base players that have never played in the premiership on?

    4. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Based on watching them play

    5. Stuartalc
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      To be fair, I've been going off Cedric the more I think about him. Seemed an easy choice given the amount of love he was getting as well as his price, but with Forster still out, Stekelenburg in bad form over the past couple of seasons, and a fairly altered defence, I'm having my doubts.

  15. GoRedz
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I think a lot of teams look extremely decent with Hazard in it.
    I expect at least of couples of mid-priced midfielders (Cabaye/Milner/Henderson/Chadli/Ritchie/Sinclair/Mahrez for instance) to perform as well as most 8.5ers, so that we can afford Hazard without compromising too much on the midfield.

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I agree. Think mid-price mids will come roaring back into vogue.

  16. Ridgewell's scores
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Off on a trip tomorrow, coming back Sunday. Will this do?

    Ruddy
    Azpi, Mert, Huth
    Sinclair, Haz(VC), Cazorla, Mane, Chadli
    Rooney(C), Benteke
    SUBS: Butland, Sakho, Cedric, O'Shea

  17. Joggers Nipple
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Morning DZ, even now the pages are moving fast. Dont think much decent input will happen from tomorrow onwards!

    Ruddy/ Rudd
    Azpi/Huth/Williams/Francis/Coates
    Hazard/Sterling/Bentaleb/ Ozil/ Depay
    Pelle/ Rooney/Sakho

    Bored of wonfering over Costa so gone without.

    Sterling downgrade and Ronney to Aguero later

    Depay is my punt, have a good feeling.

    Any input welcome

    1. Ridgewell's scores
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I like Depay, fairly interesting team.

      Whom would you downgrade Sterling to?

      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        whoever fits cashwise,, guess someone in the 6.5 range.

        1. Ridgewell's scores
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Fair enough, there's still some quality to be found in that range.

    2. Shifty
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Well you're up early. Nice team Sab. I'd like arsenal defence in there somehow personally.

      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        off to the airport, you also up early!

        1. Shifty
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          At the airport myself. 620am flight to sg for work. Grr.

          1. Joggers Nipple
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            ouch

  18. Butthead
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool were crap last season. But the 62 points they got was the second best in 5 years.

    So is Rodgers actually a good manager or was the team just muck before he came in?

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The team he has now should be finishing top 4 IMO. Likes of Benitez would definitely get into the top 4 with this team.

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        So better than Utd team in other words? I'd say if you checked that Utd are shelling out a hell of a lot more money in wages than liverpool and wages pay for quality.

        Imo 5th is as good as pool fans should be expecting, anything more would be amazing from BR.

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Good manager, tough job.

    3. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Good manager struggling to live up to unrealistic fan expectations as a result of him doing so well the season before last.

      Perversely he'd have been better off finishing 6th the season they came second as the fans would have realised how far they were really away from challenging the top teams.

    4. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Very very muddled situation tbh, and I'm not convinced it's so "Rodgers did all the bad stuff, FSG/transfer committee did all the good". There is much more going on in the background I reckon.

      He can be a dope at times, and stubborn at times, but not the woeful manager made out to be. He's not the best, and has been a bit exposed, but not rubbish. I think some of it comes down to expectations of some fans, from Markovic going to smash it to Sterling being able to up his tally the season after Suarez, a huge outlet for him, left.

      Should they do better? Hard to say. Could be better than Spurs, but have finished behind them often enough in the last few years, and might try to mount a challenge for top 4 but I think the other teams in there are no slouches. Even United, who were the weakest of the 4 last season have strengthened like Pool have.

  19. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I hope everyone sells him

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      100% agree

  20. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Of the three big hitters, Hazard I the one I'd be happiest to do without at the start if all were fit. Fixtures and a lacklustre vibe from Chelsea make me doubt how well he'll do.

    As is though he's the only big hitter who will start GW1 and his ownership makes him awfully dangerous not to own. Makes it a no brainer for me, he's in at least until Sanchez and Aguero force me to make a decision.

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Hate to say it, but high ownership is one of the main reasons I'm going with him. Always better to play it safe early doors.

      1. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Yep, with ownership that big I'm happy to go safety first until we see how things are shaping up after a couple of GWs. Take risks elsewhere.

  21. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on the City virus?

    1. Shipstontrev
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Perhaps Sterling wasn't lying when he said he was too ill to train for Liverpool.

  22. jinth70
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Who's the best striker to pick in draft out of:

    Mitrovic, Bamford and Jordan Ayew

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      All 3 are a gamble. Personally i'd have them in the order you've written them

  23. Huddersfield
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Aguero sent home from training for #mcfc with virus on Wednesday, along with Silva and Nasri.

    Rumour ?

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Truth

      1. Huddersfield
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Is it attacking threat only virus ? won't affect Clichy ?

    2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Trojan horse

  24. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone else find Yahoo! mail a bit fiddly?

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I like Gmail. Once you get over the fact that you are being continuously monitored 24/7 by robots with human-like intelligence, it's quite a nice place to send check your mail.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I will never ever go back to them. They trashed all my carefully set up contacts, and their response to my queries was rude.

    2. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, new set up where it groups the emails is infuriating

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Anybody else worth looking at?

    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A bit glitchy.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Aye.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          But used it for years, a bit like the wife in that I'm used to the faults - better the devil you know!

    4. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Why would one stray from Windows Live 🙂

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Never used Windows in my life. Never will.

    5. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Hotmail from Microsoft a decent option.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Wife's acc got hacked, my acc got hacked - any help or assistance, not a chance. I rest my case on Hotmail.

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Stop writing your details on the sides of buses so 😉

          Sorry to hear it Gnu, Gmail my primary but never had any trouble with hotmail.

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            😆

  25. How Mina You
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Oops, lost on last page!

    A) Mane + Deeney
    B) Chadli + Sakho

    And why?

  26. Shifty
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    If Costa was 100%, Hazard wouldn't be anywhere near "essential" given opening fixtures. Over the course of the season, sure - he'll be right up there.

    But Costa's hamstring issues have shifted focus back on Hazard as the most reliable option into the Chelsea attack. To me, Hazard isn't essential if you want FPL points. There are many ways to skin a cat - Hoolahan could score more than Hazard the opening few games.

    For an FPL manager who sees rank as the end all and be all of FPL, then he's probably the most "essential" option at the moment with question marks around the other big hitters (kun, Costa, Sanchez)

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Rank = Points, no?

      1. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Read second para.

        1. Eoin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I just don't see how managers can chase high points without, by extension, be chasing a good rank?

      2. Shifty
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Ownership would be the main argument of para 3 I mean.

  27. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Which is the better combination?

    A) Koscielny + Wanyama
    B) Mertesacker + Sinclair

    1. Ridgewell's scores
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      B

  28. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Is triple Southampton overkill? I'm looking at Cedric, Mane and Pelle here. As a consequence I'm going without a City attacker for the first few weeks but I've reservations about them anyway.

    1. Ridgewell's scores
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, I'd drop Pelle.

    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Europa League ruins teams

    3. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I think it's overkill. Drop one of the attackers. Pelle imo.

    4. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers lads. Maybe I'll go Mane -> Ozil. But wait, then I'd have Kosc, Ozil & Theo. The dilemma deepens..

    5. ⚛Aeneas⚛
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I've done exactly that and had similar reservations - but have a good feeling and trust koemans defense for Cedric - manes stats and attacking threat individually. Pelle I'm less sure about but fixtures plus form - who knows really. Lol - just ask yourself is it an acceptable risk and what are the alternatives.

  29. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    The problem with not having Hazard, is I don't know what to do with the cash

    Don't want Sterling yet, Aguero not starting (probably), Costa a doubt, no Sanchez

    Hazard stays for now

    1. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      That's a good point. If I had the Hazard cash it would be spent on a few different small improvements, which makes your team a lot less flexible unless you're going to WC.

  30. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    No Silva lessens Sterling's appeal for me.

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Think it may boost it for me. Everything will go through Sterling.

      1. Heydudes13
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I'd rather it go through Silva. A la Sterling with Suarez compared to Sterling up top last season.

    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      And makes me want Myhill back in goal

    3. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Why's that?

      1. Heydudes13
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        No through balls for him to run on to.

    4. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yaya could explode

      1. Jose's Magic Omelette
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Sounds messy...

        1. The Nuttman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          No, he plays for Barca.