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Scout Report – Danilo

Manchester City followed up their acquisition of Kyle Walker by further strengthening their options at right-back with the signing of versatile Real Madrid defender Danilo for a reported fee of £26.5 million.

The 26-year-old agreed a five-year deal at the Etihad and, according to City Director of Football Txiki Begiristain, will prove to be a valuable acquisition due to his ability to play in a number of different positions:

“Danilo is a fine player who offers great versatility to our squad. He can operate in several different roles in both defence and midfield, increasing Pep’s options ahead of the new season. We feel he has all the attributes needed to succeed at City and we look forward to helping him develop during his time here.”

The History

Danilo started out at América Futebol Clube in his native Brazil at the age of 12 and went on to make his professional debut for the club in 2010.

Later that year, he moved to Santos and was part of the side that won the Copa Libertadores in 2011.

He made 65 appearances for Santos in all competitions, registering 10 goals and four assists, before joining Porto in January 2012.

During his three-and-a-half year spell in Portugal, Danilo featured 137 times in all competitions, racking up 12 goals and 15 assists playing almost exclusively at right-back, with only the occasional outing at left-back.

His impressive form during the 2014/15 season led to a move to Real Madrid at the end of that campaign.

The Brazilian made 23 league starts during his first season in Spain, producing two goals and five assists, but that figure dropped to 17 starts last term, yielding just one goal and two assists.

Danilo represented Brazil at U20 and U23 levels before making his senior debut against Argentina in September 2011.

He has appeared 15 times for his country, registering two assists, although he has recently been out of favour.

The Prospects

After releasing both Pablo Zabaleta and Bacary Sagna, City should be far stronger in the right-back position this season following the arrivals of Walker and Danilo.

Monaco defender Benjamin Mendy has also signed in the last 24 hours and is expected to be the first-choice left-back, with Danilo also providing cover in that area following the summer departures of Gael Clichy and Aleksandar Kolarov.

Fernandinho also offers another alternative in either full-back position and started at left-back in the 2-0 friendly defeat to Manchester United last week.

Danilo has only played 11 matches in his career at left-back, though, with even less playing time as a defensive midfielder. But given Guardiola’s flexible tactical approach, we should not discount Danilo being used in this role.

Standing six foot tall, Danilo’s natural athleticism and physical attributes are perfectly suited to that of a modern day full-back, while he has also the technical characteristics that should fit well in a Guardiola side.

The Brazilian international is comfortable in possession, with his time playing in midfield making him appear ideally suited to the inverted full-back role that Guardiola has introduced in recent seasons.

While those strengths weren’t particularly required at Real Madrid, where full-backs Marcelo and Dani Carvajal like to operate close to the touchline, he perhaps looks to be a better fit at the Etihad than Walker, who is more in the Carvajal mold.

Looking at Danilo’s underlying statistics from last season, he averaged a key pass every 82.67 minutes, which lagged behind Walker (76.62).

He did have a slight edge in terms of goal threat though, producing a shot every 135.27 minutes last term, slightly better than Walker’s 144.72.

The defensive numbers also suggest there is very little to choose between the pair.

Walker boasted a successful tackle rate of 80% last season, edging Danilo (79.7%), while the former Real Madrid defender averaged a clearance, block or interception (CBI) every 17.10 minutes, slightly superior to Walker (19.45).

There looks little to choose between the two players, then, and given Guardiola’s fondness for rotation, there is an obvious concern as to whether either player will be a viable Fantasy asset.

The fact that Walker knows the Premier League should give him an advantage early on, but once the UEFA Champions League group stage begins in September, the likelihood of rotation appears high.

Walker is priced at 6.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), with Danilo likely to command a similar price tag. But there is a chance he may come in at a slightly cheaper 6.0, given that he isn’t expected to be the first-choice.

City’s schedule over the opening six Gameweeks (bha, EVE, bou, LIV, wat, CPL) is pretty kind, and providing captain Vincent Kompany is fully fit, there are opportunities for clean sheets which should reap defensive points.

Guardiola’s side kept four in the final eight matches when Kompany was back in the starting XI, and with no central defenders brought in so far this summer, the Belgian’s fitness will again be critical to City’s resilience.

So while Walker and Danilo offer the potential to deliver points at both ends of the pitch, the threat of rotation at full-back could drive Fantasy managers to look elsewhere.

Kompany, meanwhile, is kindly priced at 6.0, and provides both a strong set-piece threat and decent bonus point potential (he averaged a CBI every 13.49 minutes last term).

The signing of Danilo is set to dent Walker’s Fantasy appeal, then, although the England international is currently the fifth most popular defender in FPL, sitting in 18.7% of squads.

City’s backline won’t be seen as a priority with initial squads and the concerns over rotation only provide another barrier to investment.

Premium options from Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United appear safer bets at this point, with the attacking upside of either Walker or Danilo hindered by the uncertainty surrounding their pitch time.

Further Reference

Danilo Wikipedia

Danilo Transfer Markt Page

Danilo You Tube Highlights

1,406 Comments Post a Comment
  1. MichysFlow
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How do you request to have an article posted. I have a divisional FPL H2H league structure set up which i would be interested to see how many people would join for a battle of relegation and promotion.

    Thanks in Advance

    MichysFlow

    1. It’s a Knockaert
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      How do you insert a graph?

      1. The Wise Owl
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        You'd have to save it as an image and then upload

    2. dougy43
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd play in that for sure. Nothing like pronotion/relegation to keep the season interesting

    3. Wrong Captain Again
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd definitely sign up for that

  2. TheBusDriver
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Chelski are an embarrassment to the Premier League.

    1. PvA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure they'll be able to play against after this heavy beating in a friendly game

      1. It’s a Knockaert
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Who did they lose to and what score?

        1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          3-0 Bayern... but Christiansen at CB ... just a friendly

  3. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    3-0 Muller

  4. Eric Banternaaa
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Best 5.0 Defender?

    Zaba, Daniels, Cedric, Mee, Ake, Other...?

    1. Niemi
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Dawson or Cedric with their fixtures.

    2. Slash
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      cedric imo

    3. It’s a Knockaert
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Cedric defo
      Possibly Daniels or Dawson. I'm not sure about anyone but Cedric

    4. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Aké for me

  5. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Lol

  6. Chrisirwin01
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    a) Sane + Austin; or;

    b) Jesus + £4.5 mil.

    Thoughts or perhaps a different option?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A. Monitor Austin though.

    2. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sane is a rotation risk

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No more so than KDB

        1. Concrete
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Exactly, so there's no point just because he's 2mil less.

  7. Saxe-Gotha
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    WOW

  8. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else doubling up on the CHE defence?

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Looks like Conte might have to

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Zing!

        1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Pull back Zoom Zoom!!!

  9. Gunners.The.Best
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Pls rmt

    Hart / Elliot

    Walker Kolasinac Cedric Daniels / Gamez

    Sane Alli Coutinho Willian / RLC

    Lacazette Lukaku / Fletcher

    1. Slash
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Walker + Kolasnac to Trippier + UTD defender

    2. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sane is a rotation risk

      1. Gunners.The.Best
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Who else instead of him?

        1. Concrete
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'd downgrade to Zaha or Phillips. Downgrade a defender also, a lot of cash in that defence and upgrade Fletcher.

          Are you going for a 442 though?

          1. Gunners.The.Best
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yh

        2. tm370
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I wouldnt stay away from Sane just because he might not start every game. If you can afford KDB or Jesus, then I think that's the way to go, but Sane is well priced and started the vast majority of City's games in the second half of the season.

          I'm not sold on Lacazette personally. Not sure that Walker justifies 6.5 either - much will depend on whether he gets to attack down the wings. I think Mendy is a better attacking prospect and Kompany offers the most vaue.

          1. Gunners.The.Best
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Kompany or Bailly?

          2. Concrete
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            You maybe right, I'm just in the thought process that he's a risk and at 8.5 at the start of the season, if he doesn't start then it's an FT waiting to happen.

            Granted, the same can be said of Jesus but he'll start all games imo. From January until the end of the season in 16/17 when he was fit, he started.

            KdB isnt at a good price for me. He'll play deeper and won't score many. He'll assist but for me at 10.5, I'd want goals. For the same price Jesus has more potential

      2. DantheManinaPan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I assume you have no City attackers in your team then Concrete?

        1. Gunners.The.Best
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'm not a fan of City attackers

        2. Concrete
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Jesus, the only one who'll play every game until the CL in my opinion

          1. FULLSERVICECOVER
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            and whats makes you so sure of that?

  10. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Apparently AC Milan going all out to buy Diego Costa now

    How much do you reckon Chelsea will sell him for?

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2 packs of walkers

      Not sure they have managed Costas saleability very well

      1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        2 Walker's these days will set you back £120ml

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      £20m-£30m

    3. Gunners.The.Best
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      40m

  11. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    My take on this is, Fabregas back to the bench against good opponents.

    Whoever challenged my that "Conte now knows he can trust Fabregas defensively" was wrong as I pointed out.

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If possible, for sure. Or maybe a 3-5-2. But no way can Fabregas start in a 2 man midfield against the top sides if there's another option. Depends on Bakayoko's injury and Matic.

      1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Meaning Fab is a #10 - Can't see it personally as he's been less favoured than Pedro & Willian who would have to be dropped.

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      There are more issues than that atm.

    3. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed
      Flat track bully even though he doesn't look like one!!

  12. Camp No No
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    According to Daily Mirror, Liverpool refuse to let Sakho go for anything less than £30M.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-sakho-liverpool-update-10863426

    I think this is an utter disgrace. Childish behaviour. If they refuse to let him play for them, they should just let him sign where he wants, maybe asking a reasonable sum, say the half the sum they paid for him. But they're asking TWICE the sum they paid!

    I'd understand if they refused to let him sign for a direct rival, but now they're effectively refusing to let him sign for any club except those that could directly rival them (either in PL or in CL). That could be reasonable, although I'd still say, if they don't play him, then he should be fair game for any other club. If they value him more than their other defenders, then they should fudging play him. If he doesn't make their squad, then let him go. If it is that the club lead values him, but Klopp refuses to play him, then still it's no use to keep him in the storage for the day Klopp resigns: they should force one or the other leave, instead of keeping them both.

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      *instead of forcing both to stay without them working together. Rather what I mean in the end.

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He's their player - they can do what they want with him whilst he is under contract.

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No matter how you twist it... it is still evil

        1. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          What BS. In today's market when players can force their way out of a club at will, there is no evil in waiting for the right price from a club.

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            For a player they refuse to have in their squad at all? Sure that's evil. The player is not even forcing his way out of the team: he just asks to play. If he can't play for Liverpool - they didn't want him to play even with the reserves - then they should let him go for the price that somebody is willing to pay.

            1. Now I'm Panicking
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              So if you were selling something on eBay you think is worth £50, you would let someone buy it for £10?

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                If I have in my possession a product with an age of use, that is, a one that will not be usable forever but must be used within a certain window, and I think it is worth more than what anybody agrees to pay for it, then I should use it myself. If I refuse to use it, letting it go bad, and still ask 2-3 times more than anybody would agree to pay, and 2 times more than what I purchased the product with, certainly I'm just being irrational and causing damage to both myself and my goods, as well as to the rest of the society by refusing from it these resources that would be useful to others.

            2. Dreams
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              He brought it upon himself. If I was Klopp, I'd do the same with him after the shit he pulled up at Liverpool. Absolutely no evil. Let the right price arrive.

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Oh wow! He was late from a dinner and plane while being on the tour while injured and unable to play or practice. He apologised, took the punishment, of being sent away, continued to exercise, agreed to play in reserves. And as a result, he's still being kept in the closet instead of let play. That's just childish authoritarian behaviour from Klopp's side. If the relations are that bad in any working place, the boss should let one side, who is willing to leave, leave.

                1. Dreams
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Surely he has done more than what you have said. Players like Lucas, Skrtel, Lewandowski and many others have played under Jurgen and never has any problem occurred between them. I understand that you are a sakho fan and I'm a Klopp fan. No point in arguing with you anymore.

                  1. Camp No No
                    • 10 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Well, then please tell me what was the more that he did? Otherwise that's just a religious believer's argument against evidence: "there must be something else we just don't know because otherwise I would be wrong".

                    I think the case was pretty transparent: he was late from a plane and from a lunch during the pre-season tour in the US.

                    1. Dreams
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Look, I am not saying that I know everything he has done. I think you are being more of a religious beleiver by claiming to know everything he has done. I'm just using my logic and Kloop's history as a manager to come to a probable conclusion that his actions must have been annoying enough for the manager to banish him.

                      1. Camp No No
                        • 10 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        It was a well mediated case, after all. I'm basing my argument on what there is evidence of, all the public information we have. You're saying that since the evidence doesn't rationalise the behaviour of your beloved leader in the way that would put him in a good light, something that there is no evidence for must have happened. If you do not recognise which one of these is a religious and which one scientific approach, that's because you have no clue what they mean.

                        Btw, even if he was annoyed by Sakho's behaviour in general, it does not a reason for him not letting Sakho play even for the reserves, where Klopp would not have to even see him. Sanction for somebody having behaved in an annoying way by pushing him out of his workplace while not letting him join another one? Fair sanction? Authoritarianism and bullying is what that is.

                      2. Camp No No
                        • 10 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        And if you want to go by personal histories to conclude what "must have happened" although we do not actually know anything of it, you should also take into account that Sakho has been praised by his all former team mates and coaches for his professionalism and good sportive attitude.

                        Just to point out that that argument doesn't really work anyway.

                      3. Dreams
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.thisisanfield.com/2017/01/mamadou-sakho-admits-reasons-behind-falling-jurgen-klopp/amp/
                        This is more than missing a flight. I still wouldn't base my argument on media reports anyways.

                      4. Camp No No
                        • 10 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        It's exactly what I said above:

                        “It is true that I turned up late,” Sakho said on Canal+ on Saturday night. “There was a rule that I should have observed. I do not at all see myself as above the rules, I respect everyone.

                        “I paid my fine, I was sanctioned, I apologised to my team-mates and my manager. Aside from that… I do not want to go into the controversies.”

                        And Klopp said the same too.

                        His snapchat message telling that he was not injured was only after he had already been sidelined by the club (or rather by Klopp) for months: not allowed to play for Liverpool on any level, not allowed to change clubs, and reported "injured" by the club while he was not. So, you're honestly saying that being put aside as "injured" instead of being let to play or train with anybody, including youth team and reserves, is just a fair sanction for being late from plane and lunch, once he has also already publicly and privately apologised for it and continued to exercise alone as he was not let to do it with the others?

                      5. Dreams
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        "I do not want to go into the controversies.” They are selling him, aren't they? What's your problem? Him not leaving Liverpool till now? Why should they take a loss on him or sell him for cheap? What he has done may not be a big deal for you but it's unprofessional. Klopp did allow him to go on a loan. Look at what managers do to players they don't like. Mourinho to Pedro Leon, Pep to Hart etc.

      2. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He is not their slave. They are denying him from doing his job anywhere.

        1. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          And Liverpool are not his servants to do everything according to his demands.

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            He demands to be allowed to do the job he is paid for. You know, that's what they signed the contract for. For him to play football for Liverpool. If they don't want him for the services they contracted him for anymore, they should resiliate the contract. Now there's something even better: somebody is willing to buy his contract from them. All that is demanded from them, is that the player either is allowed to do his own part of the contract, or that they let him be contracted by someone else instead.

            1. Dreams
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Did they say they would not sell him or will never let him play? Nobody will sell a player for charity. LET the right price arrive.

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                There have been reported bids up to £20M, which is more than what they paid for a player they do not use at all. That's not charity.

    3. PvA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I don't understand why they're doing this?

      Do you know what has happened between them?

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Klopp fell out with him. In fact, I think this is most probably a case of establishing authority, by Klopp, and not willing to sell below the obvious value, by the club lead.

    4. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Why should they reduce their asking price considering today's market?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Exactly. Worse defenders are going for more. It's his wages and behaviour that's the problem now. And that's coming from a big Sakho fan.

      2. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        If nobody is paying that, then their pricing i above today's market. You know, that's how free market works.

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          *is

        2. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Who told you nobody wants to pay the price?

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            The fact that the transfer is not happening. If somebody wanted to pay the price, sure they could just pay it to Liverpool and have the player for their pre-season. But nobody is paying it. There has been interest from several clubs in Spain, Italy, France and England, but none of them is willing (or capable) to pay the £30M fee.

            1. Dreams
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              There is something called transfer market tactics. Now that everybody knows sakho is up for sale, surely they'll bide the time to get him on cheap even if it's a little late.

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                It's not exactly news that he is up for a sale. He has been for a long time, but they've kept the price impossible for the teams that have been interested. That is something called "a fudging imbecile market tactics", because the teams in the niche for this player will buy other defenders since he is not available for a feasible price. And then there is no longer interest from those clubs in the end of the season.

                1. Dreams
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  You should post your justice demanding post after the transfer window closes and he still remains unsold or not playing anywhere.

                  1. Camp No No
                    • 10 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Apparently you're not aware, but they didn't just put him on market yesterday. It's a year now that he has been excluded from Liverpool squad. During that time, several clubs have approached them for him. No club is offering the £30M. You just think that magically changes once all clubs in need of a defender in that niche have already bought someone else?

                    1. Dreams
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      I have enjoyed talking to you. Let us come back on 1st September and if you post this, I'll completely support this post. See ya till then.

          2. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Weren't Palace specifically put off signing him because of the price?

            1. Dreams
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Palace aren't the only club in the world, you know.

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Every other club interested so far were too. I think there has been demands from Leverkusen, Rome, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Sevilla, Lille, Lyon, WBA,… All put off by the £30M price, for some it is just impossible. Also, some of them have already fixed their defence since, and those clubs are now off the market for a defender.

              2. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Really? I swore the PL consisted of Liverpool and Palace and that was it.

                1. Dreams
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Good thing that you are wrong. You worried me for a moment.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Yep. Here I was, trying to help the discussion by providing evidence for the "Who told you nobody wants to pay the price?" bit by showing the one PL club linked with him dropped their interest because of his price. Silly old Somalion.

    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Well, in this transfer market that is fair. Players are way over valued now and Liverpool ned to get paid.

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Obviously it is not fair in this market, if nobody is actually paying them the £30M.

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Long time to go yet.

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            It's been a year now that he has been excluded from the team. Pre-season has been on for weeks in Europe and big league clubs are starting their EL and CL qualifiers. Sure if they had intent to pay £30M for him, they would have piled it up already. But they are just pricing him too high for a player who has hardly played for a over a year now, and the little he played he played for Palace.

    6. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Contracts

      If klopp can't abide him the little used 2 year loan ( IE view to kill) might quieten this story to benefit of all

    7. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think they're just trying to get max out of him and will let him go once the transfer deadline day is too close to be playing games.

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It's still just wrong. And it's also a stupid strategy. Particularly, since the clubs that have been in for the deal are likes of Roma, Sevilla and Palace. They are never going to pay the £30M they ask. What happens is that they buy other defenders if the price doesn't come lower, because they need to have them for at least a part of the pre-season to use them from the start of the season.

        1. Pariße
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah. I think they're looking at Palace with this asking price.

        2. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I assume he's getting paid during all this time.

          A fairly hefty salary too, no doubt.

          I understand your annoyance at the stance Liverpool appear to be taking.

          Personally, I think there's a lot more deserving issues in this world to be more concerned about than a millionaire being unable to kick a ball because his employers are asking for a substantial return in order for someone else to hire his services.

          1. SAY MY NAME
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            this -

            there are so many cases of players forcing the hand of clubs, so much in the players favour, that if one time it happens the other way round and the club seek to maximise the returns on their investment (when everyone knows that football is a business and trading players is part of that and in general players themselves profit greatly from this system) then that's reasonable, especially as you say he is still getting paid handsomely
            - i'm sure if the player's only concern was playing and only demanded 5k a week in salary there would be plenty of clubs happy to cough up the £30m

    8. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Liverpool will sell him for £15m - £20m once it gets towards the end of the transfer window and the accountants are telling them to balance the books.

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        The issue is that Klopp seems to be forcing Sakho out - in that case, the price should surely drop. He has hardly impressed at Liverpool either, and has had some off the field problems - why has he justified a £30mil fee? a half of dozen games at Palace in a defensive set up?

        I think they will take £20-25mil eventually, which will be fair enough.

  13. Roberto Baggio
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Chelsea down 3-0 vs Bayern . 40th minutes now

  14. Henryyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How can Coutinho earn 200k a week, while Mane 'only' gets 90k??

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Barca aren't trying to sign Mane 😉

      1. Henryyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thats the reason? Holy shit thats a big difference. Mane is the better player IMO

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He's our best player, he's been there a long time and earned the respect. Barcelona are desperate to sign him, Mane has just been with us for a year, loads of reasons. You just need to think about it.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Poor Mane must be struggling on 90k a week.

        1. H-SF
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Doesn't he get 150k?

        2. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I know, but with some mental support, he'll in turn, be able to support is Senegalese family.

        3. SW6
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Aye it's hand to mouth at that salary

          1. 32chickens
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Probably taken a second job to make ends meet

      2. Henryyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thats true Rupert, im a fan of both. Excellent players 🙂

        Mane 200k a week is coming one day 😉

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He'll need a couple more seasons of really top football, influencing the most important games to get that. To me, he's only just joined Liverpool where as Coutinho is already a Liverpool legend in my eyes.

          1. tm370
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            A legend? Really?

            A great player of course, but I don't see what he/Liverpool have done for him to be described as a legend.

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              The commitment he has shown, his utter classed professionalism, I'll always see him as that. He might not be a legend to you, but is to me.

  15. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I can't reply to someone on a community article... is that normal?

    1. PvA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Oh commenting has been disabled for this post... http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2017/07/24/ownership-watch-update-1/

  16. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Foster or Begovic?

    WBA have the fixtures, but for some reason don't inspire much confidence in me.

    BOU had more clean sheets last season and have reinforced defensively. Begovic was a good FF option when he was at Stoke.

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Begovic easily

      1. jiGGidyJ1
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Agreed

  17. Up the tics
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RMT Please. Flat 3-4-3
    Fairly happy so far but probably 100 more transfers before the deadline.

    Foster
    Tripper, Azpi, Cedric
    Eriksen, Sane, Willian, Zaha
    Firminho, Lukaku, Defoe
    Subs (Elliot, Carrol, Mee, Dunk)
    1.0m ITB for a rainy day

    1. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Looks good

      Sane is a rotation risk
      Not sure on Firmino
      Spend the 1mil

    2. JK94
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sane to Alli

  18. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Everyone selling their Chelsea assets then? Clearly they wont play Arsenal every week..

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      On the contrary, I think more people are going to bring Alonso in.

      My guess is that if he stays healthy £7.0m is going to be the cheapest you'll be able to buy him for this season.

  19. Sz21
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Latest draft.
    What do we think?

    Foster.
    Trippier, Cedric, Tomkins.
    Alli, Mkhi, Ramsey, Willian.
    Kane, Lukaku, Austin.

    Myhill, Ake, Oriel, Lowton.
    0.0m.

    1. le flem
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      good team. tompkins a certain starter? Maybe downgrade to dunk and play ake

  20. le flem
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Choose one.

    A) Coutinho + Austin

    B) Willian + Firmino.

    1. creative
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If austin starts, A.

      1. le flem
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks

  21. creative
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Which 3 are the better points potential (at least for the first 3-4 games)

    A) KDB - Coutinho - Austin
    B) Zaha - Lanzini - Aguero

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think A

    2. le flem
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      a

  22. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Batsuayi is so fling greedy it's ridiculous

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      You ve just score 2
      Your manager thinks you smell
      I'd be greedy

  23. gunner 2727
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hey all, i fancy trying out a practice draft....2pm today, classic, 8 players.... code is 117856-32653..... will delete after unless everyone wants to keep it..... no need to reply, just join! Cheers, Jon

  24. foreverton
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    De Gea [Elliot]

    Bertrand, Van Aanholt, Martina [Lascelles, 4.0]

    KDB, Alli, Salah, Willian

    Lukaku, King, Rooney

    Advice?

  25. Nigawan
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is there anything you guys would change in this team?

    Elliot-Foster
    Cedric-Lindeloff-Daniels-Yedlin-4.0
    Mikitaryan-Sane-Willian-Couthino-RLC
    Lukaku-Kane-Austin

    Been reading that cedric and lindeloff is not nailed on. Who would you guys pick instead?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Cedric is usually nailed on but just might not start the season due to a longer break after the Confed Cup. Keep an eye on him.

    2. NIGHTHIKER - I Kane, I Shaw…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mustafi is probably the best defender for 5.5 - Trippier is worth keeping an eye on but with CL, Spurs will probably sign another RB and I'd expect rotation.

      As you already have Daniels, I'd be tempted by someone like Dawson and Mawson in that price bracket, or if you want to stick with Saints defence maybe Yoshida?

      1. Nigawan
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        thanks guys.. what about monreal and yoshida instead??

  26. Eze Really?
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Putting the obvious, Man City aside, all the top sides will be rotating through Europe and the PL this year more than ever.
    With Wing Backs, the work rate is considerable and I would expect particular rotation concerns in these areas.
    Is it wise this year to consider a little more value on the bench to get possible points scorers rather than the 2 pts per game standard.
    The big hitters in defense may need cover or leave them out of the squad?

    It may not be so strange to see 2 likely starters costing 5 to 5.5 each waiting on the bench for the obvious threat.
    If they stay at their present clubs, players such as Bertrand, and players not in the CL could be chosen over the Alonso's and Walker's of this world.

    I would appreciate your comments.
    Finally, when do the CL leagues start? an which teams are at risk within the first 3 games?

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bucket loads of money ,multi potential rotational squads....
      But last 2 years leic and Che win with small nos of players and no Europe

      Interesting times for the fantasy pundits
      I'd say build flexibility in,anticipate rotation of the big boys and if you have these expect fodder to be used

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Not easy though. I am going to create a draft with Key players from mid table clubs to see what can be produced. I will have 2 reasonable subs too.

    2. Concrete
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Do you think that teams will rotate that much? It may come to be but usually teams have a core of regulars and the rest are rotated?

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Key players like Keepers, C Backs, Captains, and marque players will probably remain but I don't expect the same as years gone by. The EPL is so physically draining compared to other leagues so I expect say a Man U against Brighton for example to be filled with rotation. A rule of thumb is they can play 3 games in 2 weeks and the harder workers less than that.

  27. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    3-1 Alonso

  28. FPL Puppy
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    OMG ALONSO

    1. FPL Puppy
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      My boy!

  29. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Alonso screamer

    1. 32chickens
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      As Fred Truman used to say
      'Why's he not in the side?!'