Scout Notes

Salah and Mané show promise despite blanks against Spurs

Saturday’s early kick-off proved a nervy one for Fantasy Premier League managers who had sold Liverpool assets.

The Reds were comfortably the better team at Wembley but ultimately their highly-owned Fantasy assets could not convert that into points.

In this latest Scout Notes article, we’ve taken a look at exactly how that could impact the Fantasy landscape going forward.

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 1-2 LIVERPOOL

Goals: Erik Lamela (£6.4m) | Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m), Roberto Firmino (£9.4m)

Assists: Christian Eriksen (£9.3m)

The decision of some Fantasy managers to reduce the size of their Liverpool contingent was justified on Saturday lunch-time. However, several of the Reds’ premium assets were close to registering points in the match and could still offer potential going forward.

Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) blanked for the second match in a row but was joint-top for shots in the box for the encounter. His colleague Sadio Mané (£10.0m) registered the same number as him, with an additional effort outside the penalty area to boot.

Furthermore, Salah was joint-top in the match for chances created while Mané could have registered an assist were it not for an unorthodox combination of touches on his cross for Roberto Firmino‘s (£9.4m) goal.

Jan Vertonghen (£6.0m) touched his square pass onto the post, it cannoned back off it across the goal-line before Michel Vorm (£5.0m) got a touch in trying to claim it. That left Firmino unchallenged to tap in, but Mané should definitely take credit for his part in the goal, even if it was not worthy of an assist.

Liverpool were the much more attacking side and on any other day, either of Salah or Mané might have recorded some attacking returns. Their underlying numbers certainly suggest they still have something to offer, even if they were outshone by Eden Hazard‘s (£10.7m) hat-trick later in the day. Manager Jurgen Klopp admitted that the scoreline was not a fair reflection of the match and that his side could have scored more.

“The performance today, for me, was better than the result. The result is the most important and was perfect, winning here is unbelievably difficult and you can never expect that.” – Jurgen Klopp

James Milner (£5.6m) may well prove better value than his premium-priced colleagues at a time when Fantasy managers are contemplating reducing their spend on Liverpool options.

He played the same number of key passes in the match as Salah, is also on set pieces and is the designated penalty taker when he is on the pitch.

There was some uncertainty over Milner’s place in the side during pre-season, but he has now started every Premier League match so far. In that time he has set up two goals and scored one of his own. At Wembley, it was his corner which led to Georginio Wijnaldum‘s (£5.5m) headed goal although he was not credited with an assist.

Firmino now has two goals in his last two games but may be a doubt for Gameweek 6. He picked up an eye injury after Vertonghen caught him in the face with his hand. Further assessment is required for the Brazilian.

Despite conceding a late Erik Lamela (£6.4m) goal, Liverpool’s defence is still proving that they are still worth investing in, even if their fixtures look difficult.

Spurs offered little going forward and none of their three shots on target was considered to be a big chance. That means Liverpool remain the best side in the league for big chances allowed.

“Defending against the ball, we were brilliant. We caused Tottenham a lot of problems in these situations. They are so good and so tuned and do it so confidently to pass through the lines that you need to be outstandingly brave and ready to close these gaps. They are really big sometimes, so it’s really difficult. But we did that, and I was happy with the ball how we controlled the game.” – Jurgen Klopp

However, it does appear that paying upwards of £6.0m for Andrew Robertson may prove too much when options such as Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.0m) and Joe Gomez (£5.0m) are also available. The former continued to take direct free-kicks at Wembley and could easily start to find some returns soon. His owners can certainly consider themselves a little lucky that he was substituted before Lamela’s late goal and banked clean sheet points.

Fantasy managers interested in Liverpool should also make themselves aware of Klopp’s repeated suggestions of rotation. Saturday’s match saw just Jordan Henderson (£5.3m) come out of the side, with Naby Keita (£7.4m) coming in. But it’s PSG in the Champions League on Tuesday night and more changes are expected for Gameweek 6.

“I’m not sure if we can do it on Tuesday and then next Saturday again. We have to show that. Then we have to play against Paris Saint-Germain. They won yesterday without Neymar and Mbappe so they could rest players in the league, but that’s Tuesday and not today.” – Jurgen Klopp

As for Spurs, it was another sluggish display for Harry Kane (£12.5m). He had just two shots in the match as he continues to underperform when it comes to underlying numbers. Yet again, he dropped deep trying to win possession and simply does not look worth spending £12.5m of our FPL budgets on.

Manager Mauricio Pochettino was asked if Kane was being affected by playing in a two-man attack with Lucas Moura (£7.3m) but refused to give much of a substantial answer.

“I think I respect every single opinion, but for me, it’s a collective problem. I am not going to put the finger on some player. I am happy with all the players. The circumstances are the circumstance. I told you the challenge is massive this season. We need to give time to the players to get their best and of course to show our potential in time.” – Mauricio Pochettino

Spurs’ defence does not look particularly trustworthy either. They still have just one clean in 2018/19, look vulnerable on the counter-attack and down their right-flank especially. Michel Vorm (£5.0m) was somewhat at fault for Wijnaldum’s first-half goal and even though Pochettino refused to blame him for it, his decision making in key moments was poor. His presence in the Spurs goal reduces the appeal of defensive assets further with Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) out injured.

“That is a mistake from…if you ask me if it was his mistake, I think it wasn’t his mistake because maybe my vision is different. Was a complicated situation. If you analyse the action then maybe you put the focus on a different player. Michel was involved and the team, which is responsible and I am responsible but it wasn’t the problem with not getting the three points today, I am happy with his performance. It is not easy in four seasons to be in the shadow of Lloris.” – Mauricio Pochettino

At the very least, Pochettino is prepared to admit that his team is not performing at its best, although he would not attribute it entirely to the World Cup. No Premier League side had more players still present in Russia by the final weekend of the summer tournament.

“I don’t want now to complain about the World Cup. From the beginning, I told you it’s a massive challenge, the toughest season since we started. It’s a challenge to work with a team that arrived a few days before the start of the competition. But I’m not going to complain. I think because after three victories all was fantastic and now after two defeats, it’s not a disaster. The most important is to keep the balance. I am not worried I promise you. We are going to win a lot of games. I trust completely in my squad, not 100 per cent but 200 per cent. That is my feeling. I’ve not changed my feeling from one or two months ago.” – Mauricio Pochettino

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR XI (4-2-3-1): Vorm, Trippier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose, Dier (Wanyama 83′), Dembele (Lamela 59’), Winks (Son 73′), Eriksen, Lucas, Kane.

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Alisson, Alexander-Arnold (Matip 90′), Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Keita (Sturridge 83′), Milner, Salah, Firmino (Henderson 74′), Mane.

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4,978 Comments Post a Comment
  1. fedolefan
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    53 points, no Haz, no Fraser. 700k places up. Into the top 1.6m. Halved my rank these last two gameweeks. Season's getting back on track. Couldn't be happier.

    It's a good night from me. 😐

    1. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Well done. 🙂

    2. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Nice. Who made you such a good score if no Hazard and Fraser?

    3. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Interested to hear who your stars were. I had no Haz or Fraser and currently on 43 inc AWB autosub. Looking like a OR drop from c. 100k to 375k. Def not on track!

      1. fedolefan
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Only 1.25m above me then. 🙂

        Bobby, Kun, Dilva, Tomkins, Trent. Hopefully Patricio and Costa fight off the AWB 9 pointers coming in on Monday.

    4. My Name Is Pepu
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Up to 60k OR

      Might go down as we have another 2-3 games yet to be played. But would still stay in and around the 80k mark. Good times.

  2. EgyptianKing
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Interesting to see that the Fraser/Maddison duo clearly outperformed the Pedro/Moura one. I am an owner of the second.

    Having Wilson, do you consider a douple-up with Fraser would be wise?

    1. Please Help I Don't Kn…
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I have both, couldn't be happier. Combined with their form and fixtures I think I'll be keeping them for the nest few GWs.

      1. EgyptianKing
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Great. Thank you for your input. And Fraser in fact is as nailed as possible, correct?

        1. Nani R U OK? R U OK ? R U O…
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          interesting to see where Stanislas fits into this team

          1. Point-one short
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            True - does Stanislas threaten Fraser's gametime?

  3. ChelseaKTBFF
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Haz (C) unite.

    1. Chucky
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      o/

    2. doublyG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      (VC) here. Can I join too?

    3. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Surprised he wasn’t in more teams. But I’ve been burnt before too, so maybe I’m just a sucker for disappointment

  4. Rash
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    49 with ings to go plus obi wan points to come in but dropped 8k places to 20k.. Need an ings Monday night hatty.

    1. XabiAlonso
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Dropped 25k with 55-8 meself

    2. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Should do okay regardless with the 9 AWB points coming in

    3. polis
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      With you all the way on the hatty.

  5. Drexl Spivey
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    171,142 > 27,698 (Wan-Bissaka off the bench to follow)

    Cheers!

    1. pressdpm
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Nice

    2. Stevie B
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      6,204 > 34,887

  6. pressdpm
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Activate wild card now, yay or nay?
    To the posters on last page who said not to, thanks, but surely Hazard is essential?

    Hennessy
    Alonso - Mendy - Wan Bissaka
    Salah - Mane - Walcott - Mhikitaryan
    Zaha - Aguero - Arnautovic

    Stekelenburg - Peltier - Cairney - Kabasele

    1. President Giggs
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      You can drop one of the liverpool mids for Hazard, downgrade one of Walcott and Mhiki to Fraser and you're golden. Don't need to WC.

      1. pressdpm
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Very tempted to do that.

        Cairney dropping too though. Peltier doesn't play and Walcott is less than ideal.

        1. President Giggs
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah I agree. I wildcarded last week for similar reasons and slightly regret it, even though I got Hazard in my team isn't different enough to justify it,

  7. President Giggs
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    So annoyed that i swapped Fraser to Gray last minute on my WC. Eddie Howe was not helpful at all.

  8. French Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    2FTs here - take the price drop on Tosun or move him out before the drop?

    A) Hold for now
    B) Tosun> Mitro
    B) Tosun > Zaha

    1. Nani R U OK? R U OK ? R U O…
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      mitro before the drop assuming u still have WC intact

  9. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    823k GW3
    124k GW5 so far, 76pts + AWB's 9 + Doherty and Fabianski

    Not as good as Chucky though evidently!

    1. Chucky
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Nicely done 😀

  10. Stevie B
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    What to do with this team?

    Foster Fabianski
    Alonso Mendy Robertson Wan-Bissaka Peltier
    Salah Mane Pedro B. Silva Stephens
    Agüero Zaha Ings

    2 free transfers, 0.0 in the bank.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Looks like my team, condolences 🙁

      1. Stevie B
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you! What will you do?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          See how midweek goes. WC an option.

      2. Lone Wolf FPL
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        TM, you think Zaha or Mitro are better for next few games?

    2. polis
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Not much at all.

    3. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Could do Bilva, Pedro -> Dilva, Fraser

      My team is very similar. Dunno!

  11. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Bertrand to luiz or Shaw ? Concerned about Shaw s rotation...

  12. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts about Walcott and Mane to Hazard and Fraser for free?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Keep mane home to Southampton

      1. Stevie B
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Southampton is not difficult. But Hazard has West Ham. The Hammers are not much better than the Saints.

        1. Ron_Swanson
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I’d say Hammers much worse

          1. Stevie B
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            I wanted to say that. But I wanted to say it nice.

          2. Ramboros
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            That never seems to matter when they are at home to one of the big London clubs.

    2. Stevie B
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Sounds good in my opinion.

    3. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers

  13. tafrère
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    16k OR, 32th French, nice af.

  14. Guvnor
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Mihki out for:
    A) Richarlison
    B) Moura
    C) Maddison

    1. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I’m in the same boat. Thinking Maddison

      1. Guvnor
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah. Trying to decide tonight before Mihki drops in price
        Leaning towards Moura at the moment because of fixtures, worried about him loosing his plan to Son though
        Maddison - nailed. Good fixtures. Form a bit iffy. Looks dangerous though
        Richy - only concern if he will continue where he left off

  15. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    797k > 160k with TAA to come in and Ings to play

    1. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Nice jump!

    2. ☻ Jon Snow ☻
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      167k > 25k-ish with Bennet, Neves and maybe Walcott to go

  16. RomeluStormzy
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    702nd with AWB coming in and Walcott to play tomorrow. Never been this high in my life!

    1. Rash
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Wow well done!

    2. Goalosaurus
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Smashing it

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure you can talk about drugs on this forum ...

      1. Ha.
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        You’re my heroine

    4. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      nice! well done

  17. doublyG
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Any Chelsea fans around? Do you think Pedro did enough to keep his place in the XI?

    1. MikeS
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Nope, WIllian to take his place

      1. doublyG
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Did you watch the game? Or is this based on FPL points

        1. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          watched it, he was absolute garbage.

          1. MikeS
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Check these ratings, sum it up nicely. Pedro 5/10, Willian 7/10, Hazard 9/10

            https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-cardiff/390798

    2. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      EL this mid-week.

    3. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      In my opinion he played quite well and was unlucky not to score. On the other hand Williand didn't much apart from a screamer. Hard to say who will start the next game. Lineups for the game against Paok will say much probably.

    4. doublyG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all. I'll wait and see what happens with EL. Not in any rush

  18. Hernanred
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Any shouts outside Maddison or Fraser to ditch Mkhi for?

    Have Pedro already. Going to move on it tonight.

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Richarlison

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Richarlison

  19. Ha.
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    A. Salah > Haz, Cairney > Fraser
    B. Mane > Haz, Mkhi > Fraser

  20. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Fraser doesn't look like rising tonight right? Still only on 56.3...ideally want to see Arnie first before making a move

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Look at the fixtures mate, why would you want Arnie?

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        taking him out now was always the plan - but if he smashes in a hat-trick think I'd keep him

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          his bad fixtures are home games at least - but yeah, probably going 352 and getting rid

  21. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Was expecting a horror show with 64k rank and no Hazard or Fraser so pretty happy with 124k 🙂

    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      41 ish?

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, 41 with 1pt sub and Wally and Ings

    2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      How come you didn't have hazard or Fraser ????

      Strange , you are veteran 🙂

  22. MrFootieIsHere
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Would you do Pedro, Ramsey > Haz, Billing with this team:

    Ederson
    Mendy, Alonso, Robbo
    Mane Salah Ramsey Pedro Fraser
    Aguero Ings

    (Hamer, WB, Stankovic, Kamara)

    1. MrFootieIsHere
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      (-4)

    2. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      ITB? Can you do Salah -> Hazard + Pedro -> Ricarlison?

      1. MrFootieIsHere
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        1.1 ITB. Hesitant to rid Salah or Mane before their next game..

        1. jtreble
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Please god no - hold them for GW6. With 1.1 ITB though you have options galore. Pedro/Ramsey -> Hazard/Billing seems like a sideways move. Got a better one?

  23. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Who are yet to play in your team?
    Only Fab and Arnie here

    1. Rash
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Ings

    2. Goalosaurus
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Only Ings to go

    3. Darth_Krid
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Patricio, Walcott and Ings for me. Good for a solid 6 points if I'm lucky.

    4. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Fab Arnie Bennett

  24. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    94 points Neves to go

    Gw rank 3937
    Overall rank jump from 390k to 34390 DD

    1. GE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Wow

    2. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Well played!

  25. Releasebreaks
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    play 1 of this players for next week, who?

    A- Fraser (bur)
    B- Wilson (bur)
    C- Pedro (whu)
    D- AWB (NEW)

    or do Pedro --> Richarlison and play Richarlison (ars)

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Something is wrong with your team balance if you're benching three of them every week.

      1. Releasebreaks
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        no Salah

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          You're giving yourself headaches every week. I'd downgrade one of those to a fodder.

          1. Releasebreaks
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            I like to have options, every week my first 11 is strong

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      A or B.

    3. RomeluStormzy
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I'm in the same boat... Leaning towards AWB over Wilson and Richarlison.

      1. Releasebreaks
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        good chance for CS, maybe yes because bourmouth don't score too much away, also pedro could go bench

  26. George James
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    155k >>> 32k with AWB points and 3 to play still....

    Happy bloody days.

    1. Skyarm
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Dropped from 3.7k to 35k and not sure if wc is an overreaction.
      Patricio (Hamer)
      Mendy, Alonso, Robertson (Awb, Bennett)
      Salah, Mane, Bilva, Walcott (4.5)
      Kun, Mitrovic, Wilson
      If I don't Wildcard probably looking at an 8 points hit with Bilva, Walcott, Mane > Hazard, Fraser, Richarlison

  27. Monkey Hanger
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Watching highlights of the Chelsea/Cardiff game.

    Evidently Ken Bates offered Neil Warnock the Chelsea manager job in the nineties. Warnock declined, saying he would rather stay at Notts. County.

    How the world of football has changed. 🙂

  28. GE
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Have 2FT, and have Mkhi and Walcott. I will og course wait to transfer out Walcott before tomorrow, but Mkhi drops om price and has played today.

    1) Mkhi and Walcott -> Richarlison and Fraser
    2) Mkhi -> Richarlison/Fraser
    3) Walcott -> Richarlison/Fraser

    1. RomeluStormzy
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I went Mkhi to Madison earlier and plan to do Walcott to Richarlison this week.

  29. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Mkhi to Fraser or Maddison ?

    Or Mkhi and Bilva to Fraser and Maddison for -4 ?

    1. Darth_Krid
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I'd take the -4.

  30. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    dropped out of 10k 50000 places to 57k.... fml

    1. Drexl Spivey
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      All out?