Scout Notes

The reasons why clean sheets have dried up for Liverpool

Liverpool’s title challenge faltered again on Monday evening as the Reds played out their second successive 1-1 draw.

There were unsettling similarities to the performance against Leicester City last Wednesday, with Jurgen Klopp’s side unable to build, or even hang, on to a one-goal lead and conceding sloppily from a set-piece situation.

We’ll review last night’s penultimate Gameweek 25 fixture from a Fantasy perspective, rounding up the goals, assists, key talking points, headline injury news and relevant manager quotes.

West Ham United 1-1 Liverpool

  • Goals: Michail Antonio (£6.8m) | Sadio Mane (£9.6m)
  • Assists: Felipe Anderson (£7.1m) | James Milner (£5.6m)

Liverpool’s defensive frailties were again exposed at the London Stadium last night as they conceded from a dead-ball situation for the third match in a row.

James Tomkins (£4.3m) and Harry Maguire (£5.4m) had headed their respective sides level in Gameweeks 23 and 24 but this latest equaliser at the Reds’ expense came from a cleverly worked routine on the deck that was coolly finished by Michail Antonio (£6.8m).

While West Ham, Antonio and assist-maker Felipe Anderson (£7.1m) deserve credit for the flawless execution, the ease with which Liverpool’s backline was bypassed underscored just how vulnerable they currently are at set plays.

Klopp’s troops rank fourth-bottom for attempts from set pieces conceded over the last three Gameweeks, with a whopping eight of West Ham’s 13 attempts on goal on Monday coming from free-kicks and corners.

Javier Hernandez (£6.1m) horribly spooned a volley into the clouds from a smart Anderson delivery ten minutes after Antonio’s leveller before Declan Rice (£4.4m) missed a gilt-edged headed opportunity from yet another free-kick from the Brazilian midfielder.

Issa Diop (£4.3m) glanced a header wide from Robert Snodgrass‘s (£5.0m) corner in the second half as Liverpool’s zonal marking once again failed to convince, while Hernandez, Aaron Cresswell (£5.0m) and Mark Noble (£4.8m) all narrowly fired off-target from open play as the visiting defence parted.

While some mischief-makers will point to a possible psychological problem with the Reds after their stuttering run-in during 2013/14, in reality only three of that squad remain – none of whom made it onto the pitch in east London.

This instead looks like a team desperately missing a handful of sidelined players.

While Joel Matip (£4.9m) didn’t have a particularly bad game, there doesn’t seem to exist a natural rapport between him and a below-par Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) – especially at dead-ball situations.

It may be no coincidence that the Reds’ run of conceding goals from free-kicks and corners has happened in the three most-recent matches that Matip has started, though Liverpool’s chronic problems at right-back – Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.2m) being injured in Gameweek 22 – are no doubt also a contributing factor.

As might be the largely second-string central midfield in front of the defence: Naby Keita (£7.1m) and Adam Lallana (£6.9m) flitted in and out of Monday’s draw and the presences of Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m) and perhaps even Jordan Henderson (£5.3m) were arguably missed.

Keita is another to have started the last three Premier League matches and continues to divide opinion: indeed, it was the Guinean midfielder who lost Antonio for West Ham’s equaliser.

Owners of Robertson and van Dijk will be disheartened by just one clean sheet in six Gameweeks but there may be encouraging news on the horizon, with Alexander-Arnold scheduled for a return to training this week.

The injuries that kept Henderson (muscle) and Wijnaldum (sore knee) out don’t appear too serious, either, with Dejan Lovren (£4.9m) also only absent because of a “slight muscle problem”.

Klopp cited those niggles and strains as a mitigating factor in his post-match press conference:

Yesterday night we trained and after the session, we had to change three positions, that’s of course not perfect. And you saw that around the set-pieces, especially with organisation.

Changing three players changes a lot and obviously, that didn’t work out and that’s my fault, that we could not explain it clear enough what we have to do in a situation like that.

I don’t moan about that, it is just a fact. It is not an excuse or nothing. I said we could have played better tonight, 100 per cent, but it’s the situation and it’s not perfect. We lost two players and Millie came back because he didn’t train yesterday. He came by himself to London because it was infectious.

That is all not perfect, of course. For me, it explains parts of the game, but we don’t look for these things.

It could be, then, that with the returning bodies we soon see a reversion to the mean Liverpool defence of the opening half of the season, a 19-match period in which the Reds kept 12 clean sheets.

Nevertheless, those who own Ryan Fraser (£6.1m) and watched Liverpool’s recent struggles at dead-ball situations will perhaps be stirred into fielding Bournemouth’s set-piece specialist in Gameweek 26 despite the Cherries having what would seem an otherwise daunting fixture away at Anfield.

Liverpool’s attack didn’t fare much better at the London Stadium.

The shot count shows that Lukasz Fabianski (£4.7m) had five saves to make but every one of them was comfortable in nature – even from Divock Origi‘s (£5.0m) glorious one-on-one chance in injury time.

Mohamed Salah (£13.6m) tested the Polish goalkeeper twice during a ten-minute period at the start of the second half but that was the only time in this match that the Egyptian really flickered to life, with his second effort coming off the back of a brilliant, slaloming run through the West Ham box.

Salah was otherwise anonymous back on the right flank, however, with Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) borderline awful as he led the line in a 4-3-3.

Klopp said of his side’s attacking display:

We had a lot of situations with passing through balls and our full-backs, especially Robbo in the first half, where we didn’t find the free player. And on the other side, similar, we didn’t find it. It was difficult again, creating against so many legs, honestly.

It was no real compliment to say Sadio Mane (£9.6m) was the pick of Liverpool’s attackers, with the Senegalese winger peripheral in the second half, but he kept up his FPL scoring purple patch by netting a third goal in as many Gameweeks midway through the opening 45 minutes.

Mane has twice the number of goals from open play as Salah (four to two) over the last seven Gameweeks and during that time is bettering the Egyptian for overall attempts on goal and shots in the box.

Mane’s goal arrived in controversial circumstances, with James Milner (£5.6m) – the latest midfielder to be turned into a makeshift right-back – clearly offside as he crossed for the former Southampton winger to smartly turn and finish.

Just as Leicester merited plaudits in midweek, West Ham deserve credit for their fast-pressing, counter-attacking performance that wholly warranted at least a point.

Anderson and Antonio were excellent on the flanks, with the Brazilian again the most eye-catching from a Fantasy perspective amid some workmanlike performances from his team-mates.

The Hammers sit at the top of our Season Ticker for the coming half-dozen Gameweeks, with five of their next six opponents currently sitting 14th or worse in the Premier League table.

Fabianski and Anderson obviously appeal for this run, while it will be intriguing to hear about Marko Arnuatovic‘s (£6.9m) injury prognosis – the Austrian was sidelined for this draw with a foot problem but would surely re-enter the mid-price forward debate if fit, given the fixtures ahead for the Hammers.

Pellegrini said of his side’s efforts:

I was pleased with the performance because I thought we played a very good game, but I’m disappointed with the result because they scored a goal which was clearly offside.

We missed three or four chances, especially in the first 35 minutes, which could have finished the game. We missed those opportunities so we had a draw in a game which we could have won.

We played with the pace we had shown in other games again. We worked similarly tonight to we did against Arsenal, but we created more chances today. We then lost three games away from home but I think the team we saw tonight is the team we must see from now until the end of the season.

We always work hard on the set pieces but it depends on the taker and the finisher. You must believe me that we worked on set pieces exactly as much as we did against Bournemouth, against Wimbledon, against every team.

West Ham United XI (4-1-4-1): Fabianski; Fredericks, Ogbonna, Diop, Cresswell; Rice, Antonio, Snodgrass, Noble (Obiang 79′), Anderson (Masuaku 89′); Chicharito (Carroll 79′).

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Milner, Matip, van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Keita, Lallana (Shaqiri 69′); Salah, Firmino (Origi 75′), Mane.

888 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Cojones of Destiny
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    since ings is injured , is long going to start thoughts ?

  2. Eleven Hag
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Shaw - fulham away
    AWB - Westhampton home
    Bennett - Newcastle home
    Richarlson - Watford away
    Lascelles - wolves away

    Which 2 players to bench ?? And in which order?

    1. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Westhampton xD

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        It's the unlicensed version of FPL, like those 90s computer games, with David Peckham, and Ryan Griggs.

    2. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I'd probably bench Lascelles atleast if that helps

    3. XABI 15
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Play Shaw, AWB, Richarlison

      Bennett Lascelles

    4. #FPLBhuna
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      westhampton did make me chuckle

      haaaahaha

  3. Jones Kusi
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    ML leader has 150 more points than me.
    He got Sane, Aguero, Sterling and Richarlinson this round left to play while I have Sane TC and Sterling.
    He used his Free Hit and i’ve used my TC.
    Do you think I have a chance to win in the end?

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Only chance is if you trust Kane n he comes good n others fail

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        I have done the same last season - I got Kane when no one in my league had him - he explodee from nowhere in the last few GWs and I won the league

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      You may get some points back this gw 😉
      Hopefully Sane play & score 10+

    3. squits
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Two seasons ago I came back from 120 down to win my money league. Got to time wildcard perfectly and hope he makes some mistakes

  4. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Any other Sane captainers quite happy with the Salah blank? At least absolutely everyone else isn’t having a party without us

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Ha ha

    2. The 5% Team
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Since I have both...not happy at all, only worse thing that can happen is that Sane doesn't play at all on Wednesday (Salah my vc)

  5. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Robertson deserves to be dropped this weekend. Shocking performances since the turn of the year. Been at fault for goals and service has been average.

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      And play who ??
      Moreno
      ??

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        No point in having back up if you aren't going to give them a go when the first choice is playing horrendously.

        1. CaTriEm
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          True, although Stuart Downing was a better full-back than Moreno.

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 2 months ago

            Moreno's awful don't get me wrong but Robertson needs time out. Cost us 4 points in 2 games with his erratic passion and fatigue.

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          With all due respect mate, Moreno is awful.
          Robbo with some rest will get his form back imo

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 2 months ago

            I know he is. But then so are Matip, Lovren, Lallana and co. You have to use your squad otherwise players are run into the ground and playing in gear 1.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 2 months ago

              I agree with that but pool being out of both cups, I can't see amy game time for moreno unless Robbo & milner injuries.
              With some rest he'll be good imo.
              He plays such exhaustive style of football bound to get tired @ some point of the season.

    2. Richd
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Robbo to Alonso popular

    3. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Good point, he shouldn't be undroppable.

  6. Dele
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    What happened to James Maddison? Could be a good enabler to get Auba up top alongside Aguero.

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Really not sure, I thought he was playing well in the United game, and got subbed at 60 minutes or so.
      JWP probably a safer option if you need a budget player.

    2. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Could be good. 12 chances created, 12 goal attempts, 4 shots in the box, and 2 shots on target over the last four.

  7. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    How does TAA (have Robbo), Richarlison and Sane (have sterling) to Son, Pogba and 4.5 def for a -4 sound?

    1. XABI 15
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      sounds great to me. Who you looking at for 4.5?

      1. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        I currently have Tomkins, Lascelles, Robbo and Doherty with Fab in pegs. I'm looking at Cardiff I think unless i go dead cheap with Benderek

  8. Thunder Warrior
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Any news about Ings injury?

  9. XABI 15
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Depending on gametime tomorrow Sterling/Sane to

    1. Jota
    2. Mane
    3. Pogba

    1. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      sane to pog

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Pogba.

    3. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Got to be Pogbeast

    4. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Pogba

    5. XABI 15
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      cheers all

  10. Ynwalfc
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Play Bednarek(CAR) or AWB(WH)

    1. GoingUpUpUp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Bednarek

    2. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      AWB. CRY defense is pretty solid at home with two clean sheets in their last four home matches. WHU goal threat is lack luster with only 2 goals and 6 SOT over the last four.

  11. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    If Pool don't win Bournemouth at the weekend it's City's title imo.

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Too early to call imo.
      I'd reluctantly accept City winning though 😉

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      It's nobody's title until it's won. We're in February, nothing is decided in this stretch of games.

    3. Burger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      This is Bournemouth we are talking about, the team that have scored 1 goal in last 6 away games but conceded 16. Yeah let's panic.

  12. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Point prediction for:

    A. Sané
    B. Sterling
    C. Aguero
    D. Sigurdsson
    E. Richarlison

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Couldn't care less x5. Had enough of FPL 🙁

      1. Bunk Moreland
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        It might be time to log off FFS in that case :p

      2. Jam0sh
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Still you are here talking about FPL 😀

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Addictive isn't it. Hate that I love it.

          1. Jam0sh
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 2 months ago

            It really is. Great game when it goes well but can really test your patience when it goes wrong

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Expectation:
      A. 12+
      B 2
      C. 1
      D. 7
      E. 2

    3. Runaway
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      8
      19
      4
      2
      1

      1. XABI 15
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        with Sterling TC i would be v v happy with this. Do you reckon he starts? I think hes benched and comes on at 70 mins and hopefully gets an assist

        1. Runaway
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          I genuinely believe Sane-Sterling-Aguero will all start and latter two will be subbed off after 60-70

    4. XABI 15
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      11
      6
      0
      2
      2

    5. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      7
      1
      0
      2
      1

    6. Burger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      A. 1
      B. 5
      C. 13
      D. 2
      E. 2

      (Sane owner here)

    7. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I have a really horrible feeling Sane is getting 1

    8. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      A. 5
      B. 12
      C. 1
      D. 2
      E. 2

    9. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      10
      5
      17
      2
      2

      This question is just: put what you dream the players you own/don't own will get

  13. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Any transfer suggestions here or best to save so I can play a mini WC next gw. Currently have 8 starters for gw27 so need 3 more transfers to get a playing 11.

    Fabianski — Button
    Digne Doherty Holebas — Alonso Schindlr
    Salah Pogba Rich Sterling Sane
    Rashford Jimenez — Kamara

    - could get Son for free at the expense of a city mid
    - could also get Auba (-4) by doing a sterling/Kamara switch. Don’t mind the hit as I anyways have to take one next gw

  14. Eleven Hag
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Jota or richarlson
    Whom to bench for this GW?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Play Jota if fit

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Already playing Jimenez - do ubthink it's better to Double them up against Newcastle who are doing well defensively?

        1. Planet Head
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Doubling up for now, but with an eye on that fixture swing around GW30 (might WC then)

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Richa is awful to say less

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I'll probably have both, be benching Rich

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Can have only one of the both as I got Pogba rashford son aguero and Salah as other starters

  15. Longlatini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Will Man City have a press conference today?

  16. Burger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Any Sane(TC)'ers here? Whats the gut feeling, tomorrow good or bad?

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Only captainer here, gut feeling he starts and gets around 5-8 points

      1. XABI 15
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        i think he starts and gets at least an assist

      2. Burger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Captain here too, i guess we'd take that right now.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      TC here.
      I've lost my feelings 😀
      (Expectation is two attacking return's)

  17. The Real Big Vern
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Is there a strong case for Salah triple cap this gw?

    Last 4 home games for Pool -

    1-1 leicester, 4-3 palace, 5-1 arsenal, 4-0 newcastle

    The most goals scored at home in the last 4 home games

    Last 4 away games for Bournemouth -

    2-0 cardiff, 2-0 everton, 4-1 utd, 5-0 spurs

    The most goals conceded away in the last 4 home games

    Would seem a good game for a Pool bounce back.

    Or is the pressure too much for Pool at the moment to risk tc on Salah?

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Save it for a hazards or Kane's DGW

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      72pts with Sterling TC, Sane & Laporte, decent chance of hitting 100+ ???

      1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        *comment fail*

  18. Planet Head
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Kolasinac - under threat from Monreal/Suarez or do we think he's done enough to keep his place long term in that team?

    Tempted to bench him for the next game just in case.

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Don’t bench against Huddersfield

      1. Planet Head
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Worried he'll be benched and come on for a 1. Alternative I have is Bednarek (CAR)

  19. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Wanted Pool def but maybe now do only Hazard Sane to Mane Son for free and play 3 of Doh Shaw WB Bednarek Digne ? ?

    1. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I would feel comfortable fielding four of those defenders this week: Doherty, Shaw, AWB, and Bednarek.

  20. Strchld
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    What to do with this? Have to get Sane, Alonso, Digne out..

    Pat (Hamer)
    Alonso - Trippier - TAA - Digne - AWB
    Salah - Son - Sane - Richarlison - Billing
    Jimenez - Firmino - Rashford
    2FT 1.0 itb

    Would like to get on players who is not blanking GW31 and 33, but we dont know yet.

  21. bigbudgie
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Sane to Son for free this week. Talk me through it. No blank in 27, yes, but captain material? From 28:
    Mci have WHU bou WAT
    TOT have che ARS sou
    How are you doing that transfer but then covering City points 28-30?

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Probably not captain material, but I wouldn't captain Sane either really.

    2. Kuzser
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Ask after midweek game. Personally very reluctant to sell Sane, also box bought him at 9.3

    3. Atimis
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Auba to Kun after 28

  22. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Hi all. Who is the best 4.5 and under mid for bench fodder who may get some points? Westwood, Gunnarson. Guendouzi, Hayden ???

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Someone from huddlesfield - they looked good going forward against Chelsea under the new manager

      1. the dom 1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Bacuna, Billing? Is Puncheon nailed?

        1. the dom 1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Taking Fraser out to free up some cash to upgrade Firmino to Auba.

  23. Kuzser
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Morning all, please help with the strategy going forwards: 2ft, 1.4 itb
    1. Gw26: hazard kamara-> Auba 5.4mid(moutinho) + can get Son for pogba/sane anytime

    2. Gw26: hazard kamara-> Auba 4.3mid
    Gw27: Fanderson digne-> Son 4.7def(New/Bou) for

    3. Gw26: Haz->Son (3.3itb)
    Gw27: kamara-> rondon/7.8 striker

    4. Gw26: had kamara sane-> Auba son 6.3mid (fraser/jota), but potential benching headache

    Current team:
    FAB, 4.0
    Robbo awb Pereira (schindler digne)
    Sane hazard Salah Anderson pogba
    Rashford Jimenez (kamara)

  24. Make Arrows Green Again
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Because I can't shout at the radio, or at least, when I do, either nobody listens or I get complaints from the neighbours, I'm sharing this rant with you lucky people, prompted by some of the coverage of West Ham/Liverpool last night.

    There are two claims in football that are just spouted, regurgitated and parroted by pundits as if they are insightful rather than complete baws. You know, the kind when your toes curl whenever someone drops it to try to sound knowledgeable.

    The first one is that "the mark of a great side is that they can play badly and still win". This is silly for two reasons. The first is that nobody factors in when they play badly and, y'know, lose. The second is that teams like City have such talent and squad depth that they can afford to play at 75% of what they are capable of and still win most games comfortably. They have not played badly, they have just played less well than they are capable of. Guess what happens when they play badly against teams as good as or better than them (e.g. in the Champions' League)? They tend to lose.

    The second one which is really enjoying some popularity recently goes along the lines of "this team has/needs players with experience of winning things to get them over the line". As if the players don't go out and try to win the games in front of them; the games which generate the points required to do the actual winning of said things. What insights do you think James Milner, as a former PL winner, is providing in the Liverpool dressing room right now?

    "Lads, I think we should try and outscore the other lot because, and I know it sounds crazy but trust me because I've been there, if you pick up points in games it actually helps you win titles. I didn't realise this until Yaya pointed out but if you think about it it's true".

    Apparently it's only possible to win things if you have previously won things, which is why nobody has never actually won a sporting event or tournament 🙂

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I don't wish to rile you up further, but I do actually agree with the second point.
      I think experience does play a part when you get into the run in, and the pressure builds.
      It's not so much what Milner is saying in the dressing room, it's carrying that calmness onto the pitch, with younger players they are more likely to get caught up in the moment, and fly into tackles, or go on crazy forward runs, trying too hard - I know that sounds a little silly, but hopefully you know what I mean. Having a calming presence in the team to just settle everyone down and play the natural game, I think, does make a difference.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        This.

      2. Make Arrows Green Again
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        TBH I'm less bothered about the second one than the first one, but it does annoy me when it's just repeated and thrown around and nobody challenges it or offers any critical thought 🙂

        It seems to have taken up residence at the basic pundit training course!

        All your points are valid. To me though it's a bland assessment offering very little in the way of insight. If you need people with experience of winning, how many do you need? Of course, you can't quantify that. How can Leicester's title win be explained? How can Manchester United choking in 2011-12 be explained (they had a team packed with winners)?

        Liverpool's potential failure this season has less to do with not having experience of winning and more to do with the pressure on the team from the fans, creating an atmosphere in the stadium etc. In my very humble opinion.

        1. Make Arrows Green Again
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Your points are the opposite of bland assessment, by the way, for the avoidance of doubt!

        2. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          I don't disagree that it is something that all pundits say, and it does get frustrating to hear it on repeat.
          I'm only saying that I do agree it is a valid factor in creating the perfect storm to become a team of champions.
          Manchester United created this brilliantly in the late 00's with young Ronaldo, Rooney, Evra, Rafael, Fletcher coming through, and playing alongside Giggs, Van Der Sar, Scholes etc.

          Of course the mental side of the game is only one component, you obviously need to have the technical ability, tactical know how, and yes, a bit of luck, to become champions.

          United losing out to City in 11-12 can be explained simply by the team quality - they were playing Fletcher and Cleverly in central midfield, and brought Scholes out of retirement to upgrade that area.

          1. Make Arrows Green Again
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 2 months ago

            I'm willing to stand corrected on it then. Cheers 🙂

            Point 1 is, however, a hill on which I am still willing to die!

            1. HamezMace
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 2 months ago

              I agree with you on point 1.
              ...and having never been a professional sportsman, not for the lack of trying, I also don't really have grounds to be a authority on the subject of the mental side either, but I've read a lot of sports autobiographies, and most of them draw reference to it.
              I guess more than anything it's about an individuals mental ability to deal with pressure.
              Me personally, I've turned up to play games of football and if our best player is injured it creates an element of doubt as to whether we can still win without them, likewise if the opposition is without their best player, it gives you a lift. I think the point I'm trying to make is that it probably does have an influence, however small, in a big overall picture.

              ...also I must say I got a chuckle imagining the Milner/Toure conversation in the style of the twitter account 'boring James Milner'.

              JM: I was nervous before the last game of the season so I asked Yaya what should we do, he said, just try and win, so I did, and we won.

              1. Make Arrows Green Again
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 2 months ago

                LOL the Boring James Milner thing was the effect I was trying to conjure up. Great account 🙂

  25. skodaole2
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Morning people, cant find the DGW and blanks article. Remember there was one pointing all teams sure to play and possibilities of teams losing one or more games. Want to arrange my transfers so any help with that appreciated.

    1. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      This is a decent overview, mind that it will be updated after the cup games this week.

      https://twitter.com/i/moments/821445866900824064

      1. skodaole2
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks mate, appreciate it. I ll make a plan now and check for updates after cup games.

        1. Bunk Moreland
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 2 months ago

          Good luck.

          1. skodaole2
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks, you too. How is this season going? In fantrax its a very difficult year still struggling to reach top half after a bad draft and many moves since then but there are many teams pretty close so a long way to go.

            1. Bunk Moreland
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 2 months ago

              OK. What went wrong in the draft? Who did you get as your first picks?

              My season is OK, it was all going swimmingly untill I took out Salah to bring in Kane a bit before Christmas. After that Salah started scoring every match while my captaincies started to fail. I dropped from around 25k to around 90k which is where I am now. I do hope to claw back some ground this gw, Sterling (C) and Laporte, Sane and Richarlison still to play.

              1. skodaole2
                • 11 Years
                5 years, 2 months ago

                Should lift places tomorrow. Cant predict Guardiola's first XI (nobody can) but EVE are ideal for a huge score. Good luck!

                Drafted Alonso as first pick in nr 18 (traded him for Mitro three GWs ago) but then made wrong choices. Deeney instead of Murray was also a mistake (and getting Ryan as GW forgetting he had Asia Cup) together with a bad trade where i lost Alderweireld. Claims have worked together with one - two good trades (and my draft of Luiz in nr 58)and now i m tenth but between ninth and fifteenth its only a matter of one GW points. Looking higher but will reach probably a midtable position and will have a medium first pick next year (12-13)

                1. Bunk Moreland
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 2 months ago

                  Thanks for the report. You were always good with claims. It's unfortunate that Alonso was pulled deeper this year. It migh still not have been a better pick available at nr 18, even in hindsight? Can't win every year I suppose 😉

  26. Alli 3',17',64�…
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    That cat whichbimvaded the pitch for the wolves Everton game had a more impressive heat map then Richarlison. The fuc

    1. Alli 3',17',64�…
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Which invaded

    2. Make Arrows Green Again
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      I was imperious.

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      at least Rich had a heatmap *looks at Sane*

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        *glares at Pep*

    4. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Be funny if we get a Slippy G type heat map for Sane on Wednesday.

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        You mean when he got sent off against Man Utd?

  27. Junior ⚽
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    A) Kolasinac (hud) and Sane
    B) AWB (WHU) and Martial +4

    In essence need to decide whether to hold martial or spend an extra 4 points in defence to fund it but will have benching issues down the line

  28. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    72pts with Sterling Triple Captain, Sane & Laporte, decent chance of hitting 100+ ???

    1. XABI 15
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      if Sterling starts you will defo hit it. For me if he starts you are looking at a haul

    2. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      Hope Sané scores a brace at least an assist.

  29. #FPLBhuna
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    62 with sterling(c), sane, ederson, siggy to go...

    what an underwhelming dgw it has been.

    1. XABI 15
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      100 points easily within reach

      1. #FPLBhuna
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        haha far from it pal, can see sterling be rested at everton

  30. Sir Edo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 2 months ago

    Clyne not flagged so playing vs Pool? Wasn't it a loan move?

    1. #FPLBhuna
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 2 months ago

      yep, maybe they're just waiting for the last game of the gameweek to be completed

      1. AuFeld
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 2 months ago

        This. He won't play vs Pool. Charlie Daniels to return? Could be good for Mane owners.