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‘Relegator’ van Aanholt benched for Cardiff’s crucial survival test

Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) has been named on the bench for Crystal Palace ahead of their trip to Cardiff City.

The left-back has earned a reputation for relegating teams from the Premier League in recent years but will have to come on as substitute if he wishes to do the same today.

This is not the first time that van Aanholt has been left out of the starting XI in recent weeks, with Joel Ward (£4.3m) coming in for him against Arsenal in Gameweek 35.

He has been named at left-back today, alongside Scott Dann (£4.4m), Martin Kelly (£3.9m) and Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£4.6m).

In more advanced positions, Roy Hodgson has opted for an overload of attacking players.

Even without Christian Benteke (£6.3m) in the side, there are still three forwards taking to the field.

Wilfried Zaha (£6.9m), Jordan Ayew (£5.7m) and Michy Batshuayi (£6.2m) are all in the side, with the latter two playing up front as a strike-pairing.

The Fantasy interest in Cardiff continues to be low, with Neil Etheridge (£4.6m) their only asset with more than 5% ownership.

Of particular note is the fact that FPL midfielder Danny Ward (£4.3m) makes his first start up front of 2019.

Bobby Reid (£5.2m) and Josh Murphy (£4.8m) also come into the side for Cardiff.

Cardiff City XI: Etheridge; Bennett, Ecuele Manga, Morrison, Peltier; Gunnarsson, Camarasa; Murphy, Reid, Mendez-Laing; Ward.

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita; Ward, Dann, Kelly, Wan-Bissaka; Zaha, Milivojevic, McArthur, Townsend; Ayew, Batshuayi.

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  1. Alnair
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Just to be crystal clear - Klopp's response of "we will see" was in response to whether Firmino would START against Newcastle.

    To not even be in the match day squad says he isn't even fit enough for 10-20 minutes so obviously Klopp knew he wouldn't be fit enough to start in his presser.

    Managers generally are transparent about the FITNESS of their players, clearly ruling out players who are not expected in the match day squad. Managers tend to be vague about ROTATION and their specific line-ups.

    Couple this Firmino situation with what Klopp pulled with TAA after the Brighton game and, for me, Klopp is no longer a manager whose words can be trusted. Personally, I'll not be transferring in any players playing under him until the last 10 minutes before the deadline. He caused a ****storm by lying about the TAA news and once again he has lied.

    This is coming from a Liverpool supporter - do not heed and your own peril.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Just to be clear - He doesn’t have to tell people anything he doesn’t want too. Get a grip

      1. Wild Rover
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        *to

      2. COK3Y5MURF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        He never said he did.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          And the point of the post is then?

          1. COK3Y5MURF
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            1 year, 4 months ago

            That WE as FPL managers shouldn’t trust Klopp. Not that Klopp was obligated to tell us the truth.

            1. Alnair
              • 4 Years
              1 year, 4 months ago

              Don't waste your breathe, most of this site is full of morons.

              Can't wait for them to get burnt by Klopp next season and come crying.

              1. Longlatini
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 year, 4 months ago

                🙂

              2. Wild Rover
                • 10 Years
                1 year, 4 months ago

                Breathe? Most of this site? Quality

              3. COK3Y5MURF
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 year, 4 months ago

                True. Just doing my part to try and change that 😉

                1. Wild Rover
                  • 10 Years
                  1 year, 4 months ago

                  Try leaving if you want to do your bit

                  1. Alnair
                    • 4 Years
                    1 year, 4 months ago

                    Try getting a life instead of attacking a user who makes more sense than you?

      3. Alnair
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        He doesn't have to answer any of the questions.

        But if he does he should at least have the decency to not lie. Most managers are at most vague.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          He hasn’t lied, he didn’t say he was fit

          1. COK3Y5MURF
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            1 year, 4 months ago

            Saying "We will see" when Firmino wasn't even fit enough to be on the bench is lying. Unless he's fit, and he left him out due to a rift between them or something, of course.

            1. Wild Rover
              • 10 Years
              1 year, 4 months ago

              Bull crap. We will see in this context means wait and see

              1. Alnair
                • 4 Years
                1 year, 4 months ago

                Except even David and Neale thought it meant he'd at least be fit enough for the bench, go watch the Team News FFS video.

                Funny how everyone except you interprets it this way 🙂

                1. Wild Rover
                  • 10 Years
                  1 year, 4 months ago

                  Everyone except me? Have you even read all the other comments?

        2. Marvin III
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          You seem to be quite unclear on what lying means.

    2. Marvin III
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Cry me a river.

    3. Forza Papac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      u ok hun? x

    4. TheDragon
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      How has what he said about firminio negatively impacted you?

    5. tafrère
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Getting Firmino when you have TAA, Robbo, Van Dijk, Mané and Salah available in this team is a huge mistake anyway lmao.

      1. COK3Y5MURF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Firmino, Mane, and Salah were all in similar form before his injury.

      2. Alnair
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Someone clearly wasn't looking and Liverpool's underlying stats before GW35.

    6. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      So Klopp is on here. Username is Auboomerang 😆

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Does he still post?

        1. My heart goes Salalalalah
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Seems like he only does it in pressers now. Haven't seen him here since the tragedy

    7. Distinctly Average
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I’ve never understood this logic.

      If I was a manager I’d also be deliberately vague about team selections. Why would he want to give unnecessary information to his rivals?

      We have to realise that this FPL mindset comes very much secondary to the actual game of football they’re all playing

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        No, fpl is 100% important, the league itself is second to fpl

        1. Slouch87
          • 4 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          If FPL is 100% important find yourself a hobby.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 3 Years
            1 year, 4 months ago

            Woosh

        2. Distinctly Average
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          XD

    8. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I have Firmino and have been badly burned as a result. Nevertheless, it's not Klopp's job to help me manage my FPL team, and as pissed off as I am at the Firmino no-show I have no one to blame but myself.

      1. Slouch87
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Nice to see logic and balance. I have Firmino too but I am not all surprised.

      2. Distinctly Average
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Precisely. My point exactly

    9. Slouch87
      • 4 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Klopp answered the question.
      You have implied that he isn't fit for 10 or 20 minutes based on your judgement which does not have knowledge from inside the club.
      You whole post is based on implication as opposed to fact.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        *Your :p

        1. Slouch87
          • 4 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          The typo of course is far more important than the point I am making.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 3 Years
            1 year, 4 months ago

            Sorry couldn't resist lol

    10. Pras Scott Talent
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I had Firmino before Car, Hudd but sold him after all the ambiguity. You can’t expect a a manger to say yes or no to a player starting/on bench or anything.

      Who is to say he did not aggravate something late in training on Friday or Sat?

      1. Alnair
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        I didn't say he wasn't trustworthy after the TAA.

        My point is that Klopp's now building up a history for lying and we should be aware of this.

        1. Old Bull
          • 7 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          He really didn’t lie

    11. KAPTAIN KANE
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      It's despicable, surely he plays fpl himself and understands that press conferences are there for us to aid our teams selections?

      Maybe he did it on purpose because he wants Sturridge as a differential in his ML chase?

  2. Brooksy86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Anyone do better than 2 from 3...

    1. TheDragon
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      That’s honestly ok - other than Doherty everyone with decent ownership has blanked. You’ve got more players to come than average.

  3. Greenbackbøøg…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    City TC versus a chilled out Brighton side ready for the beach, very good

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Only if title race goes to last gw.
      Need Leicester & Newcastle to surrender 😉

    2. Vlad Tepes
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      I regret I used it this GW but guess they can score alot at home vs Leicster

  4. Luka does it again
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Hoilett missed a sitter

  5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    The toilet puts it over

    1. Wild Rover
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Quality 5yo humour

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      😀

      1. Wild Rover
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        I rest my case 😉

  6. andrewe63
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Barcelona throwing the game against Celta Vigo tonight?

    1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Why would they?

      1. andrewe63
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        3rd string side/bench out there.

        1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Oh I see. They don't need to though do they

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      League already wrapped up right ??

      1. andrewe63
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Just contrasting Premiership if the fourth from bottom were given an easy ride into survival. What would the bottom 3 managers be thinking?

  7. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Bilva or Sane for next week?

    1. Vlad Tepes
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Depends on what the result is on monday but sane is more explosive

      1. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        True. Its still too early to decide.

    2. Vlad Tepes
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Yeah but if they still have to play for it vs Brighton I would go for Sane, more explosive and a bigger differential

      1. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        And if they don't hes pretty much assured some gametime . Freeflowing mcy playing for fun.

        1. Vlad Tepes
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Hehe ye I guess hard to tell

  8. Vlad Tepes
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    In a dilemma with Son RC and I will wait with my transfers until next week when we know more. But what would you do? 0.1 ITB 2FT

    A) Son+Doherty - > Pogba+ Shaw
    B) Son+Jota/Jimenez->Hazard+fodder

    I will have to start one of Jimenez and Jota anyways, but with B I have to start Doherty against pool (Other defenders are Dunk and Duffy)

    Cheers

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      A. Looks good.
      Let's see how mtd perform this week.

    2. Distinctly Average
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Check pogba stats without penalties

      1. Vlad Tepes
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        I have not checked but I assume it is really bad. Still tempted to get assured united assets as they play a regulated cardiff

  9. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Disappointed not to get anything from mili today. Why aren't Cardiff scything down these strikers!

  10. TheDragon
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    West Ham keeper misjudged that slightly - lol

  11. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Redmond or Townsend for next week?

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Redmond

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Prob right to stick to the plan. Sounds like he was unlucky not to score today.

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Yeah

  12. Yank Revolution
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    CARDIFFFF!!!

  13. Luka does it again
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Good goal for Cardiff, fair play.

  14. KAPTAIN KANE
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    I really have had a mare with Guaita & Peltier

  15. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Any news why Gunn didnt Start today?

    1. kalmoffit
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Shop Window for Forster?

    2. Daniel S. - Go Havertz !!!
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Farewell time for Forster

  16. Daniel S. - Go Havertz !!!
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Liverpool lineup? Is not amongst the stickies

    1. Daniel S. - Go Havertz !!!
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Anyone? Or I should aim for the sticky

    2. STEP rOVERS
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Skysports.com

  17. Amey
    • 1 Year
    1 year, 4 months ago

    How much time to go ??
    Zaha keeping 2 bps would be great

  18. Luka does it again
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    YESS!! well done lads.

  19. Bruno Bruno!!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    6 from 4 after having son TC doesnt feel so bad now lol

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Ouch!

    2. Longlatini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Harsh luck

    3. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      You had Mané last week, yet you captained TAA.

      Son got 2 points that week against a bad West Ham side.

      What on earth made you decide to spurn triple capping one of the highest scoring mids, at home and playing for a free scoring team against one of the worst sides ever to disgrace the Premier League?

      And TC an out of form mid playing for a team that has lost their way since losing Kane?

      I genuinely cannot understand the reasoning behind this.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        The game itself lacks logic with it's results, so kind of understand these ballsy punts

        1. KAPTAIN KANE
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 4 months ago

          Sometimes even

  20. Luka does it again
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Unlucky Cardiff.

  21. Marvin III
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Good riddance once again to Colin.

  22. Distinctly Average
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Valiant performance from Cardiff, despite the loss

    1. LFox
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Agreed - Bobby Reid looked the best player out there ... that goal proved it ... Mendez-Laing was working hard too, they all were.

      1. Distinctly Average
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Yep, great to see the fans getting behind the players and manager after the game. Nobody likes to see a team get relegated

  23. LFox
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Gotta feel for Cardiff ...

  24. Bruno Bruno!!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    unpopular opinion: but Raffa the Faffa will dent Jurgen Flopps title bid and hand city the title

    1. Bruno Bruno!!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      *Gaffa

      1. Longlatini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Prefer Faffa!

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Lower case this time 😉

      1. Bruno Bruno!!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        makes a difference 🙂

    3. Manani
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      nah, I'd say Leicester have better chance on winning/drawing than newcastle.

  25. Ask Yourself
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Good football fact. Ryan fredericks is the first defender to get a perfect 10 whoscored rating since October 2009 (Thomas vermaelen vs Blackburn)
    That is my right back x

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 4 months ago

      😮

  26. HollywoodXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    I appreciate this will divide opinion but as a neutral (neither a Liverpool or City fan), I really want Liverpool to win the league and therefore beat Newcastle. I like the way Liverpool play, I like Klopp and I think it would good for the PL for another team (other than City) to win the league.

    1. Bruno Bruno!!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      we cant have liverpool winning the league im sorry, i will do eveything in my power to make sure they never win the league

      1. HollywoodXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Excellent. You carry on with that and don’t forget to take your meds before you go to bed.

      2. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        Sorry too, but that's pathetic. They've been brilliant this season and if they lose it will be just unfortunate because City have been even better. I hope that Pool win it because of your comment.

    2. Andy'81
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Not very neutral of you to actually pick a side, Switzerland would hang it's head in shame.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 year, 4 months ago

        🙂 I’m a Saints fan and bearing in mind Liverpool have literally nabbed most of our best players over the last few years I think I’m being very neutral with my view

  27. Bubz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Salah hatty and Mane blank would save my season

    1. Burger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      What does a mane hattie and Salah blank do?

  28. Bruno Bruno!!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    if RAFFA THE GAFFA does my man city a favour a tonight I will quit FPL for the rest of the season

    1. Wild Rover
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Yawn

  29. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Anyone up to 20 points yet?

    1. kalmoffit
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Doubt it. Unless Kelly given bonus

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 4 months ago

      Got that and more from 2 of my defenders.

  30. Old Bull
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 4 months ago

    Well that’s it. Before today I was 10pts off the lead in one league & 11 pats in the other. Today a shambolic 9pts from 5 players with Doherty on the bench. I blew it. Season over barring a miracle.