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Haller promising but must convince managers he is worth the cost

Fantasy Premier League managers may want to wait to see how Sébastien Haller (£7.5m) settles in at West Ham before flocking to sign him.

There is certainly promise about the striker but as a newcomer to the English game, he might take some time to adapt.

The Hammers broke their transfer record to sign him from Eintracht Frankfurt for a fee believed to be in the region of £45m.

Haller, 25, had been with Eintracht since 2017, where he played a starring role for Adi Hütter’s side as they finished seventh in the Bundesliga to qualify for Europa League football in the upcoming 2019/20 campaign.

The Frenchman, who has been capped 20 times by his country’s Under-21 side, arrives in East London amidst considerable anticipation with the Hammers’ fanbase eager to see a clinical, goalscoring forward make their mark in Manuel Pellegrini’s second season in charge.

After scoring 15 goals and registering nine assists in 29 league matches in his final season with Eintracht, Haller arrives in the Premier League with a fearsome reputation that has played a considerable part in the £45m fee that he has reportedly commanded.

Yet it is the 25-year-old’s price in FPL (£7.5m) that has got managers talking, as Haller’s credentials as a mid-priced forward come under considerable scrutiny despite his impressive final season in the Bundesliga.

The starting striker berth has remained one of complication and inconsistency for owners David Sullivan and David Gold for at least the last five years for the Hammers, with marquee striker signings either failing to fulfil their promise and potential, spending an extended spell on the treatment table or even most recently having their heads turned with lucrative, eye-catching offers from the Chinese Super League in the East.

But for Haller, the time to prove his worth in the Premier League has arrived in 2019/20, as the Hammers bid to finish in the top-ten and re-assert their relevance as outsiders for European qualification.

Upon signing for the club, Haller spoke of his pride at becoming the Hammer’s record signing:

“It means a lot (to be the record signing). It proves that the club [has] really wanted me for a long time. I felt this desire to sign me and I’m really happy to sign, also. it is an ambitious club, a nice club, a nice city and nice fans too. For me, I can guarantee that I will give 100% for the club because the club has given me this confidence and I will try to give it back every day in every game. I will always give 100% and respect the club. I think this is a normal thing and that I can guarantee. I know it’s a big transfer and there is a lot of expectation around me, and I just want to make people proud of this transfer and I will give everything I have.” – Sébastien Haller

West Ham’s director of football Mario Husillos also spoke positively after confirming the arrival of Haller:

“We are very pleased to welcome Sébastien and his family to West Ham United. It is no secret that we have been in the process of identifying a top class striker to add to the squad this summer, and much work has gone on behind the scenes to ensure that we were in a position to act once the right opportunity became available. Sébastien is a player we have been watching closely for some time – he has always been a key target and someone who myself, Manuel Pellegrini and David Sullivan were very keen to bring to the football club. He is a player with excellent pedigree and experience in three of Europe’s top leagues. His record at Eintracht Frankfurt in recent seasons has been up there with the top strikers in the Bundesliga, and we believe that his physical and technical qualities will be well suited to the Premier League.”

The History and Statistics

Haller enjoyed a great season with Frankfurt in 2018/19

The rise of Haller over the last three seasons has been nothing short of meteoric, with the Frenchman catapulting his career trajectory into new, unchartered territory for a player with just two seasons of football in Europe’s top five leagues.

Having commenced his youth career in the lower leagues of French football with F.C.O. Vigneux and Brétigny Foot, Haller joined Auxerre in 2007 as a 13-year-old with a dream. For five years, the Frenchman battled through the youth ranks with the club who would eventually give him his professional debut just five years later.

Haller made his first senior appearances for Auxerre’s reserves, where he excelled and scored 29 goals in 57 appearances across two seasons, whilst also appearing for the first-team across a three year period where he struggled to replicate his initial goalscoring consistency – scoring six times in 50 appearances for the club.

A loan spell to FT Utrecht followed after falling out of favour with his boyhood club, yet whilst the striker may have felt feelings of devastation at the club’s decision to loan him out, it would ultimately prove to be the catalyst for his career’s upward ascent as he shone for Utrecht, scoring 11 goals in 17 appearances and winning the club’s Player of the Year award.

Utrecht were eager to tie Haller down on extended terms in the Eredivise, and secured his signature for a fee believed to be less than £1m in the summer of 2015. Whilst the club’s hierarchy would have been delighted at securing such a promising prospect for such a low fee, no-one, perhaps including Haller himself, could’ve foreseen the impact he would make across the next two seasons in the Dutch top-flight.

In his first two full seasons after permanently signing for the club, Haller scored 34 goals and registered 10 assists in 73 appearances for Utrecht, as the Ereverdise outfit’s faith was rewarded to an extreme extent after an outlay that is believed to have been in the region of £675,000.

A French Under-21 international posting such promising goalscoring figures will inevitably attract interest from Europe’s bigger clubs, and Haller’s profile as a 21-year-old combative target-man with a proven track-record was of serious interest to Eintracht Frankfurt, who signed the Frenchman for a fee of £6.3m.

It was with Frankfurt where Haller’s career reached new heights and the striker’s reputation extended its glistening appearance to the Premier League, after 24 goals across two seasons alerted West Ham United to a player that unquestionably represents a gamble at a fee of £45m, but who could excel for the Hammers with the improved service that the likes of Felipe Anderson (£7.0m) and perhaps new-signing Pablo Fornals (£6.5m) might provide.

The 2019/20 campaign is yet another step up for Haller, with a weight of expectation and scrutiny that the 25-year-old is likely to have never faced in his career to date. But if West Ham’s club-record signing can deliver on the promise and potential that has surrounded his arrival at the London Stadium, then Pellegrini could have acquired a striker with the calibre that the Hammers have yearned for in their attempts to establish the club in the top-ten of the Premier League.

Comparisons


Minutes per shot Minutes per shot in the box Minutes per shot on target Minutes per key pass
Haller40.454.583.957.4
Chicharito37.955.687.8151.7
Anderson52.7109.1122.247
Antonio32.3 52.583.9691.3
Arnautovic 32.248.862.4 55.5
Fornals4080.1116.851.9

The Prospects

Haller in action for Eintracht Frankfurt against Chelsea

West Ham United’s struggles in the striker’s department have been well documented over the last five seasons, but there is an understandable sense of optimism that Haller could be the man to break this duck in securing a consistent, goalscoring forward to lead the Hammers’ frontline.

The departure of Marko Arnautovic to Shanghai SIPG has opened up a starting berth in the West Ham XI, and Haller’s underlying statistics suggest he could have the potential to excel for Pellegrini’s side in his debut Premier League campaign.

Haller certainly ranks favourable for minutes per shot in the box compared to our selection of West Ham players in 2018/19. Registering one there every 54.5 minutes put him above many of his new colleagues, including Chicharito, Anderson and Fornals. The same goes for his 83.9 minutes per shot on target.

However, it is worth pointing out that Haller did come off as the worse of the two when compared with Arnautovic. The Austrian recorded better minutes per shot, minutes per shot in the box and minutes per shot on target last season, as well as superior minutes per chance created figure.

That could certainly indicate that Haller may, at first, struggle to quite match the Fantasy potential of his predecessor when fit, especially when we consider the extra £0.5m FPL have asked us to pay.

Furthermore, the usual caveat applies that these figures were recorded in the Bundesliga, and not the Premier League, yet the German top-flight’s quality, as well as experience in European competition, should provide Fantasy managers with a sense of assurance over Haller’s abilities as a forward for 2019/20.

Yet for all the hype that has surrounded the 25-year-old’s arrival in the Premier League, his FPL price of £7.5m could make the Frenchman a potentially difficult option for selection before the season has even started.

Level in price with last season’s star performer Raúl Jiménez (£7.5m) and just 0.5m below Callum Wilson (£8.0m), Haller is up against some of FPL’s top performers and a number of Fantasy favourites for managers with regards to forwards outside of the heavy hitters such as Sergio Aguero (£12.0m), Harry Kane (£11.0m) and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m).

The obvious comparison that has been made with Haller is Jimenez given their identical £7.5m pricing, with the Mexican entering his second season with Wolves whilst Haller will be making his Premier League debut.

After scoring 13 goals and registering seven assists in 2018/19, Jimenez attained cult hero status in the Fantasy Premier League community, offering exceptional value and often earning points against some of the Premier League’s elite.

Therefore, owing to the direct price comparison, for those managers opting for a price structure that incorporates a £7.0m to £8.0m forward, the Jimenez vs Haller debate will be central to determining which striker, if either, warrants inclusion in your squad for the opening Gameweeks of 2019/20.

In directly comparing the two £7.5m priced forwards for 2019/20, the stats present an interesting picture that is worthy of deeper analysis. Jiménez ranks top for minutes per shot as well as minutes per shot in the box, but it is Haller who emerges the strongest of the two for minutes per shot on target and minutes per key pass.

Haller is certainly a more conservative shot-taker, having attempted 54 shots in his final Bundesliga campaign – a number that is dwarfed by Jimenez and his 111 shots, over double, in the Mexican’s debut Premier League season.

It becomes evident that Haller is taking a lot fewer shots than Jimenez which is a decisive factor in assessing the merits of these two forwards, but the Frenchman appears to more clinical as well as regularly providing more key passes for his teammates than the Wolves striker.

The debate of Jimenez vs Haller might take shape in the opening Gameweeks of 2019/20, but with the Mexican’s superior underlying stats as well as the fact he already has a season of Premier League football under his belt, it could be fair to say Haller is potentially overpriced at £7.5m ahead of his debut campaign in the English top-flight.

A particularly positive aspect of selecting Haller in your squad for 2019/20 will be an almost assured starting spot – the club have not shelled out £45m for a player to warm the bench – and this does give the selection of Haller an added element of assurance in your team.

The likes of Anderson and Fornals are also likely to provide increased goalscoring opportunities for the 6’3 forward, who had an aerial success rate of 59% in 2018/19 and scored four times from corners in his final season in the Bundesliga.

West Ham’s fixtures also present a dilemma for Fantasy managers. After facing Champions Manchester City on the opening day, the Hammers travel to Brighton and Watford before hosting Norwich in their first four fixtures. Games against Brighton, Watford and Norwich could prove appealing to Fantasy managers, but it would be difficult to justify selecting Haller for GW1 with the visit of City to the London Stadium.

The true viability of Haller as an asset in your squad for 2019/20 will become a far more informed debate when the Frenchman has got some minutes under his belt and his adaptability to the Premier League becomes clearer.

Yet for now, at a price of £7.5m and with such competitive counterparts in the same price bracket, the inclusion of Haller from the outset is a difficult one to justify for fantasy managers ahead of the 2019/20 campaign.

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  1. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    Draft #931
    First time draft without a premium keeper

    Pope
    TAA Robbo Digne Zinchenko
    Salah Sterling Fraser Perez
    Wilson Deulofeu

    4.0; Dendoncker, Greenwood, Kelly

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Interesting stat on Deulofeu on previous page. Otherwise looks pretty good to me.

    2. infamousprob
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Zinchenko, Perez and Deulofeu big rotationrisks

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Perez? After signing for 30m? I doubt that.

    3. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Exactly the same as one of my two drafts but I have Jota over Deulo, I think it's good obviously.

    4. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      I have a very similar team but Jota Dunk and Lloris, (Deu,zinc,Pope)

    5. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Fraser and Robbo vs Siggy and VVD....Deulofeu vs Jota... don’t know the answers, but worth thinking about these. Could Rico get more minutes than Kelly?

    6. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Deeney is the better 6.5 forward

  2. Maddamotha
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    Any changes you would make to this team folks? Cheers!

    Ryan
    TAA, VVD, Coleman, Zinchenko
    Salah, Sterling, Moura, Fraser,
    Wilson, Delu

    Button, Greenwood, Lundstram, Hayden

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Moura+Delu issues for me. Who is coming in for Lucas?

      1. Maddamotha
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Possibly anyone of the Chelsea or United midfielders, trying to capitalize on Spurs' opening fixture.

  3. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    A bit concerning that Zinchenko doesn't start in what otherwise looks like City's first XI, from the available players.

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Same.

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      More than a bit.

    3. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      I'm not concerned at all after watching Angelino play in the other friendlies.

      1. jtreble
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Careful. Friendlies are only one part of player evaluation. Performance in training is arguably more important.

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Pep knows Zinchenko inside out. I think this is one of those situations where he’ll want to see Angeliño relax into the role. He’s been woeful to date and clearly isn’t a bad player.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Fair. Community Shield is going to be the best indicator for City's XI I think.

    5. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Hmm, maybe Walker or Ederson is better pick just to be safe. Community Shield should be a good indicator

    6. avfc82
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      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      I see it as Pep giving Angelino more exposure to the first team after a couple of below par performances. Can he rely on him, is he picking up instructions from training etc, that kind of thing.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Most probably. Well, let's hope he has a stinker.

    7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah I've rejigged things back to Laporte & a 6.0 attacker rather than Zinky & a 6.5 with money ITB

      I'm intrigued by both Yarmolenko and Ings, with Adams, DCL & JWP all there as well as Robinson for 0.5 cheaper, CHO as well

      If I was a betting man its the 6.0 bracket that houses this years Fraser/Jimmy/Wilson figures, we just don't know who they are yet

    8. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah, don’t like this at all. Maybe Zinc is too risky after all?

    9. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      No, Pep just doesnt want to go into the season with a terrible left back as backup, so he wants to give Angelino more game time after the two horror shows so far. What this does indicate is that Mendy is completely out for the start of the season and that the news from France that he would try to get ready for the start of the season are bollocks.

  4. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    This is my current team.

    Fairly template but with a few fun early season punts in Moura and Gross 🙂

    Ryan
    TAA VVD Digne Walker
    Salah Sterling Lucas Gross
    Wilson Deulofeu

    Bench: Fodder

    Good idea to take a few risks on Moura/ Gross or should I go for more safe Fraser and Perez?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      I'd go for the dullard choice rather than booking in a transfer.

      1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        If Moura can get the home games against Villa and Newcastle he could be gold, definite brace potential. Easy swap if it does go wrong?

    2. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Take the punt on gross but jot Moura imo

      1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Worried he gets dropped for Son straight away? If he plays well he could easily keep his spot :/

  5. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    good ebening

    thoughts?

    Pope
    TAA, Digne, Zinch
    Salah, Sterling, Siggy, Madison, Perez
    Jimi, King

    4m, Max Aarons, 4.5m, 4.5m

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      You'll often be be annoyed by G - Vardy; A - Tielemans I would think.

      1. Bruce Lee
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        New draft

        4.5
        5, 5, 5
        Madison, Perez, Tielemans, 4.5
        Vardy, 7, 7

  6. Depldax
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    If you read the team news on the 9th saying Salah may not start due to his Af con duties will you

    A) Play it cool and captain him anyway ?
    B) Panic majorly and do something wild?
    C) Something else ?

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      A

    2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      He will start imo.

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      A. I'd imagine/hope he does not play at all if he doesn't start.

    4. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Both Mane and Firmino are back to training later than Salah. There is no way Salah doesnt start. They need to play their strongest 11 as much as possible to beat City. Goal difference could definitely matter too.

  7. OLLY G
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    I am a bit of noob with data, but on the members "player projections" it is predicting that Pogba will be the fourth highest scoring midfielder. At 8.5m, surely he is great value then.....

    1. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Chris Atkinson mentioned that Pogba had been getting rated really highly by RMT in comparison to betting markets due to him scoring an unsustainable number of penalties last season.

      It will get continually updated over preseason

    2. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, but I wouldn't read too much into it. I'm not sure anyone can predict his output without knowing United's system, and where he fits in. If it's 4-3-3 then his projections will obviously be higher than if it's a 4-2-3-1, with Pogba in a double pivot.

  8. Goonermeister
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 10 months ago

    Who’s the pick of the 6m Midfielders and Forwards?
    Yarmo and DCL?

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      Slim pickings, worth spending the extra 0.5 for better options imo

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Slim pickings for the forwards, mids there's usually one or two who stake a claim. Che and yarma for me

      • The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        I'm looking at the 6m mids right now and it's tough, I was set on James earlier but I think he'll start on the bench unfortunately. Yarmolenko/Trossard/Barkley/Mount/JWP/Ndombele/McNeil from GW5.

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          How can you forget Townsend? 😮

      • Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Che or Ings. Would wait to see who comes good from mids.

      • Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 10 months ago

        Mount/Trossard and Adams/Sharp

    3. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 10 months ago

      GW 1+2 ONLY...

      A) Perez = Wolves (home) + chelsea (away)
      B) Groß = Watford (away) + West Ham (home)
      C) Other £6.5m with better fixtures (who?)

      I'm swaying towards Groß due to nailedness and set pieces. Perez' OOP potential is tempting but that away game to Chelsea is off-putting.

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          4 years, 10 months ago

          I'd punt on gross

        • Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Gross for me, bit of a punt but great fixtures

        • Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          I’d prefer trossard but maybe gross with pens is quite intriguing

          1. LangerznMash
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Cheers, what makes you think Groß has pen duty?

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Murray won’t be first choice anymore

      2. @persecuted_by_mods
          4 years, 10 months ago

          RMT please?

          Pope
          VVD TAA Digne Dunk Zincenko
          Salah Sterling
          Kane Wilson

          Rotate Greenwood, Norwood, Dendock and Hayden but yeah basically playing with 10. Could downgrade Zinc to 4.5 and upgrade Norwood to 6.0

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Playing with 9 + Dunk not ideal. Stretching it a bit too thin. Lose one of Kane or Wilson?

            1. Jebiga
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              yea, wilson out

          2. Jebiga
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            digne to coleman and dunk to kelly, then upgrade norwood to pereira or 6 mil mid.
            Realy like this team its almost the same as mine 🙂

        • Andrew
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Not getting the Delofeu love at £6.5m Jota seems a mich better option to me.

          1. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            I’m in the same boat, also like pukki for the GW2 vs New!!

          2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Let's see how they go in Europa. Lots of qualifying games coming up. Putting me off Jota atm.

          3. slove
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            I think people just want to take a risk on him while Jota has poor fixtures in the hope that he will produce a big haul or two ( as he has in the past) with a more long term view of swapping to Jota

          4. Annie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            not much in in stats wise. Towards the tail end of the season Deulofeu form was much better.

          5. avfc82
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Jota a much better option, IMO.

            1. Annie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Do you think Deulo/Watford will regress vs. Wolves this year?

              1. avfc82
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Sorry for the slow reply. Yes I do, I see Watford struggling a little this year.

          6. Netley Lucas
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            14 returns in 18 games up top w/Jim puts him way ahead of the 6.5's, see how EL goes re squad.

        • Winston.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Thoughts about Zouma and Chelsea...If he stays, could it be that he is nailed?

          1. Rotation's Alter Ego
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Probably will stay according to local press, but competing with Christensen and then Rudiger when he's back.

            Too risky for a GW 1 pick unless something changes preseason, after GW 1 Rudiger will start worrying potential buyers

          2. Von Lipwig
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Probably not. With 3 other good options it'll be a while before we know who Lamps likes best. Smart money still on Luiz/Rudiger to start the season as first choice

        • Von Lipwig
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          My final(ish) big decision is to either play a 6m Midfielder or 5.5m Defender....

          Some options:

          DEF:
          A) Coleman
          B) Alderweireld
          C) AWB

          MID:
          D) Pereyra/Doucore
          E) Barkley
          F) JWP

          What do we reckon?

          1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Coleman looks the best bet out of those to me

            1. Von Lipwig
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Yes I agree. Thanks

            2. el polako
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Aye.
              Fixtures, form and FPL pedigree.

              Nailed in my draft.

          2. All de Gea no iDier
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Keep your eye on Bavies

            1. Von Lipwig
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              such a great pick season before last. Is he on track to play a lot?

          3. jayzico
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            A
            D (pereyra - god I hate typing that name. it's difficult for one with dyslexia)

        • Jebiga
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          As i can see, nobody picking premium 3. Salah, Sterling and Kane. There is a bunch of non-Kane teams...

          1. el polako
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Some people do.

          2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            I tried a draft with all 3, ended up getting Norwood in starting 11.... too many sacrifices elsewhere imo.

          3. slove
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Not possible to fit all three in without massive sacrifices across your team

          4. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Yep. Doesn't leave enough for the other 8.

          5. yakirh
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            I tried that, very hard to maintain a decent 11 with all 3

          6. Jebiga
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            how's this looks like ?

            pope
            robbo, vvd, coleman, zinchenko
            salah, sterling, perez, pereira
            kane, calvert-lewin

            sub: greenwood, hayden, kelly

            1. jayzico
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              like it bar hayden and kelly

              1. Jebiga
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                is there a better picks ?
                dendocker and reid or ?

            2. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Surprisingly good.

          7. Andrew
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            I'm currently on :-

            Ryan (Button)
            Robbo Digne Zinchenko £4.5m (Kelly)
            Zaha Salah Sterling Perez (Hayden)
            Kane King (Greenwood)

            Can't decide if I'm going to keep Kane though.

            1. Jebiga
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              I think Kane is a must, if he fails, swap him for auba, aguero, or some other premium striker 😉

            2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE FOR THE LAS…
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Practically the same as you, except I'm going 5-3-2 and have an extra Liverpool defender in the Kelly spot and a 4.5 mid instead of Zaha

              1. Warby84
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                This is still on my radar, but really want Wilson..

                Pope
                VVD Robertson Digne Cathcart Dunk
                Salah Sterling Moutinho Tielemans Dendo
                King Kane Greenwood

                1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE FOR THE LAS…
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Decent. Moutinho to 4.5, Digne to Coleman and King to Wilson the most realistic way

                  1. Warby84
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    It is but would have to play the 4.5 every week, I feel Moutinho is pretty creative 8 assists LS, so he can slot in week in week out.. Have not seen enough of Dendo to rely on him.. It’s a short term team I feel I will need to lose at least one premium by GW3.

                    Who would you go for at 4.5??

                    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE FOR THE LAS…
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 10 months ago

                      Not if you play 5-3-2, I.e playing both 4.5 defenders.
                      Probably Stephens, Romeu or Hayden

          8. el polako
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Found on here

            "Trent Digne Coleman Zinchenko (Diop)
            Salah Sterling Tielemans Gundogan (Dendoncker)
            Kane King (Greenwood)

            Typically, Gundogan either plays 90 or 0. He very rarely makes cameos. 23 starts and 8 cameos last season, scoring 6 goals and registering 3 assists. When he does play, he's fairly attacking and often chips in with a goal or assist. I feel that is pretty good value for £5.5m. 9 returns in 31 appearances, or a return once in every three games, I feel is decent enough for a 5.5. Also, being a City player, I think he'll be more likely to gain 3 points per game than a £5.5m from a weaker team, who are more likely to return 2 points. He'll either start in a strong City side, come on as a sub in a strong City side or not play at all and I'll have either Diop or Dendoncker to sub in.

            The rest of the team doesn't need much justification."

            1. Jebiga
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Yes, agree for Gundo, but what you will do when 3 premium city spots needed ? And we will need for sure 3 premium spots...

            2. onceuponatyne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              I don't think Gundo is a bad choice, but he gets a return 1 in 3, which you've said is good. He also makes a cameo a little less than 1 in 3, which you've said very rarely happens. We can't really pitch one of those as good and one as bad.

              Personally I wouldn't want him in my 11, decent for the price but taking up a City space.

        • Fernandito
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Which one guys??

          A. Kane Noble AWB
          B. Wilson Perez Trent

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            B

        • Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Yo can I ask you to complete this puzzle, for the first two games of course

          A) Digne (cpl, WAT) + King (SHU, avl) with BB of Pereyra (BRI) + AMN (BUR) + Kiko (BRI) and a fat headstart to top of FPL

          B) Coleman (cpl, WAT) + Laca (new, BUR) whilst saving BB for the boring strategy that always ruins my rank at the end

          Love you thanks

          1. The Ejiptian King
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Do A! Exciting!

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              The circumstances are collapsing around me none of the players I really want for my BB are likely to start 🙁

              1. The Ejiptian King
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Who are your alternatives to Pereyra?

                1. Ask Yourself
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Trossard I guess. Only wanted Iwobi when I first had to fill that 6m mark

          2. Steve Stiffler
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            B, play smart

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Yawn :/

          3. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            A and let us know how it goes. I'm too dullard to do something like that so will do vicariously through you AY.

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              The excitement is building just the BB options are getting worse by the week

          4. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Will you quit the season if you GW1 BB fails?

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              I’ll have my WC to look forward to and set me straight at least in GW3. The current BB I have I expect to be very average

              1. Ask Yourself
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                I also hate King as an option. Would equally rather punt on Lacazette Auba double up to start with than take these dodgy chaps. This is my dilemma you see, what do u reckon

                1. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Im actually sitting on Laca myself right now (non BB mind). Emery is a fraud but hes been playing the pair together in pre season so far, and the two opening fixtures are good. I like a punt or two. Easy double transfer in gw3 to get Son in too which allows me to bring in the Chelsea striker who looks favored at the same time, or Haller if he seems sharp.

                  1. Brosstan
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    By that I mean I love Arsenal assets for the first two games!

                  2. Ask Yourself
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 10 months ago

                    Yep will definitely have 3 no matter what. Laca Auba gives me the best possible arsenal attack but BB means Double defence and Auba unless Iwobi comes back i’m all over him. Think the WC in GW3 offers a much greater advantage personally as you still get mini WC in international break if you do get it that wrong but I think it’ll be perfect

        • Steve Stiffler
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          TAA or Robbo and why?

          1. slove
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Robertson, not much in it other than the fact Gomez can steal some minutes at RB

          2. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Out of the 2 I think TAA is the better pick, having a share of corners and direct free kicks just elevates him over Robbo.

          3. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            TAA has more up, back-end of last season was phenomenal. Robbo maybe more minutes.

          4. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Robertson was undroppable last season, I had him all season and don’t want to break up a good relationship...

        • Ninja Škrtel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          A. 4-4-2
          Lloris
          TAA, Robbo, Bissaka, Dunk
          Salah, Siggy, Fraser, Zaha/Milivojevic
          Kane, Jimenez

          OR

          B. 3-4-3
          Lloris,
          TAA, Robbo, Bissaka
          Salah, Siggy, Maddison, Zaha/Milivojevic
          Jota, Vardy, Wilson

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Defo B

        • jayzico
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Let's discuss the much despised (DCL) on here.

          How bad is he really? He's a 6m striker - 6 goals; 5 assists; 3 BPS

          OK, not exactly Kun but perhaps a cheap and easy way into Everton attack.

          And if needs be he's easy to get rid and upgrade wherever over 2 weeks thus not costing you 4point hit.

          IF HE STAYS as lone striker, who's taking him?

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            If he and Everton start well then he’ll have his place in mine

          2. el polako
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            At the moment is either Che Adams or him plus Leno in goal for me or Jota and Pope.

          3. yakirh
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            I might consider him, need to monitor Everton pre-season games tho

          4. jayzico
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            All true. Bit more positive reponses than I expected. OK, he's in. For now. I just think (until it's confirmed) that Greenwood is a waste. I'd sooner 3 playing forwards and a nailed on (even if pants) 5th midfielder

        • Tsparkes10
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Just seen the mousset thread... Honestly no idea how much game time he'll get. Different option to what we have but supposedly put in a 15 mil bid for Mcburnie from swansea. Think none of our strikers are so called nailed on... Same with cams in Robinson, Morrison and Freeman. Hence why I'll probs stick with JOC as a 4.5 mil overlapping cb and threat from set pieces

          1. The Ejiptian King
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Would you prefer Maupay or McBurnie? Apparently interested in both.

            1. Tsparkes10
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Maupay was my one wishful signing... Was over the moon when linked with him. Young, pacey and a finisher but went with another frenchman :(. Guess we'll see, be upset if he ends up at villa

          2. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Damn (rips-up-draft)

          3. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Any idea why O'Connell didn't start last night?

            Also, Lundstram, is he going to play this season?

            1. Tsparkes10
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Guessing just rotation. Was on the bench so no biggie.

              Doubt it, especially if we sign sawyers or Fer. Wilder has praised lundstram preseason though so could be wrong. And if he does then a 4.0 defender who actually plays cm for us couldn't be bad

              1. HamezMace
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                Hadn't seen the rumours about those central midfielders, but noticed Lundstram has had lots of minutes pre-season.

                Confident for the season ahead?

                1. Tsparkes10
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  Guess we'll see, defo need some height in there though... I am actually, complete underdogs is what we thrive best with so we'll surprise many imo

          4. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Bit similar to Cardiff last season then!!

        • NUFCAndrew
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          A: Siggy + 6.5

          B: Fraser + Chelsea starting ST

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            B if we knew who that was.

            1. NUFCAndrew
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              I’m sure by the start of the season it’ll be more clear

        • The Royal Robin
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Anyone going with Greenwood as a starter? Having an incredible pre season.

          1. IRBOX ⚽
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Not Ole

          2. aapoman
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Nah he ain't a starter yet. But he is surely my 3rd striker warming the bench

        • The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          My two drafts are basically picking between Vardy and Wilson so trying one to include both, thoughts?

          Ryan/Pope
          TAA VVD Coleman Zinchenko
          Salah Sterling Brooks Trossard
          Vardy Wilson

          4.0 Greenwood Donck Lundstram

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Pretty decent. Stick with Pope, Ryan down to a 4.0 and upgrade Trossard or Brooks?

            1. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Oh sorry, I meant the keeper is Ryan OR Pope, I'm not rotating 4.5s. Never again.

          2. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Brooks to Tielemans and VVD to Robertson

            1. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              You know that takes an extra 0.5, right? I've already downgraded from Robertson to fit Vardy/Wilson.

          3. jayzico
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            So, so similar to mine. Never heard of Trossard though? That's up near Loch Lomond is it not?

            1. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Bet it's beautiful today.

        • Klopp's Kids
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          How does this look with 0.5M ITB?

          Pope
          TAA VVD Coleman Zinchenko
          Sterling (v) Sigurdsson Salah (C) Perez
          King Wilson

          Bench: Button, Greenwood, Stephens, Kelly

          1. aapoman
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Pretty much the same as I have. For security you could go Walker over Zinch

        • aapoman
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Digne, Zinchenko and Pope
          or
          Coleman, Diop and Ederson

          1. Jebiga
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            1 with coleman

            1. aapoman
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              Hmmm then I coudl go Zinch to Walker :thinking:

              1. Klopp's Kids
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 10 months ago

                or keep the 0.5M if you think both will start in case of emergency haha

                1. aapoman
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  LOL

                2. Jebiga
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 10 months ago

                  this

        • The Royal Robin
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          Best 4.5 DEF?

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            O’connell only

            1. Tsparkes10
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              This.

        • Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          @Doosra may be into something with the Gündogan pick. What do we all think will he stat the season over Rodri?

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Too much risk for not enough reward.

          2. Netley Lucas
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Competing with David for LM? Could do.

          3. The Ejiptian King
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Not for me.

        • Bavarian
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          4-3-3 with Deulofeu
          or
          4-4-2 with Zaha

        • Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          What is the consensus on the 9.5 options? Im actually leaning towards Laca right now for the opening two games. Great fixtures and easy exit route to Son in gw3 which also allows me to pick up either whichever Chelsea striker seems favored or Haller if he looks good in the process? Thoughts?

          Vardy or KDB seem favored at the similar price but neither of them have as good opening fixtures as Arsenal.

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 10 months ago

            Post on new article mate x

            1. Brosstan
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 10 months ago

              thanks

        • Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 10 months ago

          6.0 price point is a huge headache (my defense is already filled up). is DCL really the best option? Surely has the fixtures and seems a good pick if Everton dont buy a striker given Silva has said hes first choice for now.