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Scoutcast to discuss luck/skill debate and budget defenders

Joe is joined by Az and David for the latest episode of the Scoutcast tonight.

You can watch it on our YouTube channel from 8pm BST to 9pm BST.

This instalment will overlap with some EFL Cup action so we will do our best to bring you live updates from those matches if they have Fantasy Premier League implications.

Some of the key topics for dicussion in episode 302 include the luck vs skill debate as well as budget and premium defenders.

Gameweek 6 was characterised by the benching of Raheem Sterling (£12.1m), a popular captain candidate.

The fact that he did not take to the pitch for Manchester City’s 8-0 win over Watford meant that many vice-captains came into play.

Some of those fell to Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), some to Sadio Mané (£11.6m), while others landed on Kevin de Bruyne (£9.9m) who scored a whopping 17 points.

Joe, David and Az will fight it out to decree whether or not those who got the Belgian’s haul doubled-up were reaping the rewards of a good decision or simply lucky.

Make sure you let us know your view!

Also, with Lucas Digne (£6.2m) disappointing his owners once again, we continue our debate from last week about the value of premium defenders moving forward.

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  1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 22 days ago

    After Spurs' embarrassing loss and performance cs Leicester last weekend, I am really reconsidering the Son (c). Spurs could easily bottle it this weekend as well. Thoughts?

    1. TheDragon
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      They kept a clean sheet last night

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        It's more about attacking returns when it comes to captaincy. They couldn't score vs a 4th division team.

    2. Skloppy Kops
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      How many minutes did he get yesterday?

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        It's not about that. Are they as a team, capable of bouncing back from this?

        1. Skloppy Kops
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          I think they dont have the choice now.. they are bound to give their all in PL

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 22 days ago

            So stick to Son (c) you think?

            1. Skloppy Kops
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              I would. He seems in better form than Kane and getting in interesting positions since he's back.

        2. Skloppy Kops
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Or risk falling back into the shadow of Gooners.. having to bear this is worse than not winning the league.. lol.
          You'd know it better than me, I am no Arse or Spurs fan.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 22 days ago

            They always have been in our shadow, except the past 3 or 4 seasons. They could easily find comfort in their old place

    3. MadDog86
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Agreed I’m thinking having Son is a differential enough. I’m not risking C I’m going Tammy.

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        That's differential (c) as well. I am considering the same, hes currently my VC, but might return to the dullard sterling captaincy

    4. Christina.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      I dont trust spurs

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        This and poch clearly doesn’t think this is his best squad and that he can challenge the title - he wants out now imo

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Yeah looks like it. They hit a new low last night.

          And to think that the same team reached the CL final

    5. FPLGraham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Son(c) would be hoping for a similar display from Spurs that they showed against Palace. High octane, full blooded etc etc

      They’ve got it in them & maybe the home factor can help. Might be wishful thinking though on my part as also have him.

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Yeah Son and Aurier played a starring role in that game and both didnt start yesterday fwiw

  2. TheDragon
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 22 days ago

    Why are the price rise/ fall prediction sites so poor this year?

    Last 2 nights loads of players have been 95%+ 2-3 hours pre deadline, only for me to wake up and find that their stats have been ‘re-set’ to 80%. Once I could accept but identical thing happened last 2 nights (TAA in particular).

    Something odd / even possibly manipulation is going on

    1. Christina.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      just be thankful we have these sites. Prob WC's? Dont lose sleep.

      1. TheDragon
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        When they work reasonably well these sites are incredible and hugely valuable

        However when they are very wrong about price moves they are actually a hinderance as potentially you make ‘bad’ moves to catch price changes that were never going to happen

        1. Christina.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          crazy to make any early moves with so much football during the week currently.

        2. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          you are not forced to do anything, so blaming the site for ones actions or not actions is strange. And i never understood the concept of not taking early transfers if you must. Just make sure you have bench to play if injuries. That´s why i like to have a squad that can fill in and to be kind of falling back to options if someone gets injured in first xi.

    2. Sharkytect
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Martial was predicted to drop for about 12 days running before he eventually dropped 0.1. Must have adjusted the formula

      1. badgerboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        It could be manual price manipulation in Martials case. A lot of non playing low ownership players keep dropping, maybe because FPL towers feel they have over priced them. Someone like Martial, playing out of position for a big club could be seen as underpriced so they could be holding his price.

        1. TheDragon
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Does feel like that might be happening but that’s a slippery slope for FPL if they do that

    3. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      They are free sites and don't claim to be 100% accurate.

      1. TheDragon
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        That doesn’t explain why currently they are doing a poor job when historically they have been great and pretty accurate.

        Of course I’m not expecting 100% accuracy but last 2 night multiple players have gone from 95%+ pre deadline to 80% post. Can that really just be wildcards both times (on a Monday and Tuesday night?)

        Yes they are ‘free’ to use but nothing in this life is truly free. They are making revenue based on user numbers (which is based on their predictions being reasonably accurate)

        1. badgerboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          FPL towers have changed their price change system over the last few years, WCs no longer count towards rises or falls which can screw with FPL Stats algorithm and they can also manually manipulate a players price which is impossible to predict. Add onto that FPLs algorithm changes every year and we're only 6 games into the season.

        2. the Penman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          They’re only so accurate later in the season. This early (yes, even 6 GWs in) their algorithms are still learning.

    4. Holmes (specialist in failu…
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Hopefully they get worse

    5. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Manual manipulation is the tin foil hat ford fantasy football. The algorithm is not public so we do not know the factors, nor do we get to know the biggest factor, wildcards.

      Points win the game, not value.

      1. TheDragon
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Of course but points and team value are at least to some extent linked.

        By not looking after your team value you may miss out on points longer term as you can’t get the player you want who will score more points.

      2. badgerboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Wildcard transfers are the main reason they get skewed numbers.

  3. JohnBlack
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 22 days ago

    Repost... Hows my WC team looks, any changes needed?

    Pope
    TAA Soyuncu Tomori
    Salah Son KDB Cantwell 
    Aguero Pukki Abraham

    Button Guendouzi Lundstram Rico

    1. The_Fish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      It’s fine.

    2. Slitherene
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Good team

  4. Skloppy Kops
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 22 days ago

    What are owners of Digne doing?
    Shipping, benching or playing him this GW?

    The early CS dried out.

    1. Holmes (specialist in failu…
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Shipping

      1. Skloppy Kops
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        For who?
        Already have Pope in goal, Robbo and Ota.
        Was thinking of shipping Robbo next.

        1. Holmes (specialist in failu…
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Otamendi you can say.

          I'm on WC, thats why getting rid.

    2. FPLGraham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      No FTs left as focused move on Abraham. Would ship if I could.

      Not sure whether better to play him or Lundstram. With both I’m just hoping for a jammy assist.

    3. The_Fish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      I shipped to Ota. Saved 0.7 and felt like a no brainer whilst Everton are having issues.

    4. Bushman
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Swapped for tomori

    5. FOO FIGHTER
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Already shipped him GW6.

      • Guru Mediation
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Shipped to Rico, will play Lundstram or Soyunchu instead

      • Boberella
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Gone. For Otamendi

      • Drop the Dendoncker
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Benching, prob get -ve pts this gw.

      • Slitherene
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Keeping

      • the Penman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Benching. He has Burnley, West Ham and Brighton following the City game.

      • Whats the Huth
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Keeping.
        Benching for Rico

      • Sharkytect
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        I sold last night before the price drop. Sad, because my team is based on his name!

    6. Slitherene
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 22 days ago

      VvD + Sigurdsson + Ayew -> Tomori + McGinn + Vardy, for a hit?

    7. Klein
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 22 days ago

      Thoughts on liv assests as (c) this week? Salah or TAA vs shefffield looks good on papers.

      1. The_Fish
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Trent could be an excellent differential captain in a tough looking week.

        1. Klein
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Yup really tempted to give him the armband.

          1. Slitherene
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 22 days ago

            A Lundstram return would ruin it all.

      2. TheDragon
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 22 days ago

        TAA is due a massive haul but to get it Liverpool need to keep a clean sheet

        It’s a much bigger punt captaining TAA than Salah

        I’m currently on Salah (c)

      3. FOO FIGHTER
          1 month, 22 days ago

          On Salah at the moment.

        • Boberella
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Trent not a bad shout as a differential option.
          Salah was wasteful vs CHE. Couldn’t control the ball every time he got it. Frustrating.

          1. Slitherene
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 22 days ago

            Tomori didn't let him have the ball.

      4. Bocaginge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Thoughts on Digne to Tomori?

        1. The_Fish
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Tomori isn’t yet nailed, if you can afford a benching then go for it.

        2. Bushman
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          I've done it

        3. badgerboy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Tomori is a risk, you'll never know how nailed he is until Chelsea have all their CBs available.

        4. FOO FIGHTER
            1 month, 22 days ago

            Would rather keep Digne.

        5. Pep Roulette
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Select 1

          A. DSilva, Pepe, & Barnes to KDB, Mount & Tammy for -4
          B. DSilva, Pepe & Haller to KDB, Maddison & Tammy for -4

          1. Holmes (specialist in failu…
            • 6 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            B looks good

        6. Whats the Mata?
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 22 days ago

          Start AWB, Digne or Lundstram this gw?

          Or get rid of Digne for Soyunchu (-4)?

          Cheers

          1. FOO FIGHTER
              1 month, 22 days ago

              I would start Digne.

            • badgerboy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              I have all three of those and starting AWB. The reason being United have better form at home. Slim reason but.

              1. badgerboy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                But have got spare cash to do AWB to Pereria for a -4 and it is tempting.

          2. gellinmagellan
            • 2 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            Pope Button
            TAA Dunk Rico Zinchenko Lundstram
            Salah KdB Mount Ceballos Dendoncker
            Aguero Pukki Haller

            2 FTs 1.1 ITB. What moves should I make?

            1. badgerboy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Dunk to Söyüncü and roll the other. Or Ceballos to Mount with the other.

              1. gellinmagellan
                • 2 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Already have Mount :/

                1. badgerboy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  Oh yeah. Could take a punt on Tielemans for Ceballos. Or loose Zinchenko if you feel uncertain about him.

          3. Jacky boy
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            C KDB or Son?
            Son better fixtures and plays forward but kdb has had his rest

            1. Slitherene
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 22 days ago

              KdB for the long term, Son for the short term.

              1. Jacky boy
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                C = Captain
                Own both

                1. Slitherene
                  • 1 Year
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  Son

            2. Christina.
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Spurs dead in the water.

              kdb

              1. Jacky boy
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Poch faces his previous team maybe going to thrash them

                1. Christina.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  maybe not. Wishful thinking.

                  1. Jacky boy
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 22 days ago

                    Maybe he has learnt his lesson and start eriksen from start

                    1. Christina.
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      1 month, 22 days ago

                      too many maybes.

                      Good luck

                    2. badgerboy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      1 month, 22 days ago

                      Everyone was saying that after the Villa game.

                2. badgerboy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  Too busy thinking about what decor he's going to be choosing in his house in Manchester next year.

            3. Boberella
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              KDB over Son for cap this week, I’d say.

            4. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Really don't know anything. Was dead sure of Son C till yesterday

              1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Anymore*

          4. Slitherene
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 22 days ago

            Start Heaton (BUR) or Pope (avl)?

            1. Boberella
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Pope

          5. Gunner Boy
            • 4 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            On WC, Keep Sterling or switch to Aguero?

            1. Slitherene
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 22 days ago

              If you keep Aguero, who will be the other midfielder?

              1. Gunner Boy
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                McGinn + Aguero or Sterling + Wesley

                1. Miguel Sanchez
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  Def McGin and Kun

          6. Davve
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            Start Pope or Heaton?

            1. Davve
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Oops, same question above, sorry

          7. Pep Roulette
            • 2 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            Who would you lose in order to get Tammy?

            A. Haller
            B. Barnes

            1. Christina.
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              haller

          8. KendrickLlama
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            1 month, 22 days ago

            On a W/C - any changes please?

            Pope Button
            TAA Ota Soy Lundstram Diop
            Mount Salah KDB Cantwell McGinn
            Kun Pukki Abraham

            Been tossing up whether to have Raz or Kun

            CHEERS!

            1. badgerboy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Solid.

            2. Abra Dubravka
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Kun for short term, Raz as a season long acquisition.
                Decent team.

            3. HUATSHOOTER
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Hi guys, need some help

              I alr did a FT to sell awb for otamendi.

              I have dsilva and digne, should i sell them for diop and son?

              1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Not imo. D Silva will probably start against Everton

            4. ADucksBehind
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              A) Play Digne + save FT

              B) Digne to Diop. Which I’m 90% going to do next week

            5. CONNERS
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              1 month, 22 days ago

              If you had Kane, would risk the captaincy on him this GW? (Have Salah, Aguero, KDB, Kane and Abraham).

              I'm thinking he's long overdue a haul...

              1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Spurs not in the best shape . Not sure I'd take the risk

              2. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                I can't bring myself to captain Kane again. Prefer KDB or Salah from your options.

              3. badgerboy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                It's funny isn't it. In previous seasons Kane at home to Southampton would be an unquestionable captaincy choice.

              4. CONNERS
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Yeah they do seem a bit out of sorta. Might risk it this week and swap to Auba for next GW.

                Thanks

              5. CONNERS
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                1 month, 22 days ago

                'out of sorts'

            6. Johan Queef
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              2FT and would like a Chelsea attacker. Was originally going to make the funds to do Barnes -> Tammy (*I always have the wrong Burnley forward & it's becoming too painful!*)

              Or should I do Trossard -> Mount instead & hope Tammy stays (relatively) quiet?

              Thanks in advance.

              **I had Barnes during Wood's purple patch last season, started with Wood this season and switched to Barnes before Wood's brace

              1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Trossard to mount for me
                I think the key when it comes to situations like Barnes/wood or sterling/salah etc it's to stick otherwise chances are you'll miss the hauls 🙂

                1. Johan Queef
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  I think that sounds the sensible option. I have Wood in draft so there is a silver lining.

                  I was concerned Barnes looked a bit absent the past few games & scared of Tammy's increasing ownership but better to get rid of an injured player than someone like Barnes.

            7. Lord Tachanka
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              For the talk of good stats I wasn’t that impressed by the stats for either Pepe or Haller back in the IB.

              Haller too reliant on service, big chances on a plate. Pepe lots of shots but low xG.

              Now if I could just identify some good transfers to actually make I might have a chance at this game!

              My net immediate transfer points are -21!!!

              1. badgerboy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Haller looks a good player and will be a good asset for West Ham. Not sure FPL wise. Yarmalenko and Anderson main priority is to cut inside and look for goal themselves rather than assist. Lanzini being injured doesn't help either.

            8. Tinmen
              • 6 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Folks, is it worth -4 to swap VVD and Martial to Tomori and Son?
              Possibly captaining Son If I do it

            9. Ajax Hamsterdam
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Captain

              A Salah
              B aguero
              C vardy

              Thanks a lot .

              1. Corgzzzz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                A

                1. Gudjohnsen
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 22 days ago

                  A from those options

              2. Hot Toddy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 22 days ago

                C

            10. Wally banter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Comments on which of these two WC team is comapritively better

              Heaton
              Rico Lundstarm Webster Kiko TAA (first 4 can rotate decently for upto gw 11)
              Mane Son Kdb Mount Cantwell
              Kun Tammy Pukki

              Pope
              Rico Lundstarm Ota Soyancu TAA
              Sterlin Son Kdb Mount Cantwell
              Firminho Tammy pukki

              Thanks in advance 🙂

              1. Wally banter
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 22 days ago

                Gw 7- Kiko (wolves) Rico (WHU)
                Gw8 - Kiko (shu) Lund (WAT)
                Gw9 - Webster(avl) Lund (ARS)
                Gw10 - Webster (EVE) Lund(whu) Kiko (BOU)

                By this time i can sell son to fund one/two upgrades in defense like pope/soyancu/lowton etc

            11. Gudjohnsen
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 22 days ago

              Scared shitless going without Chelsea for gw7:

              Pope
              TAA, Otmendi, Rico
              Son, Salah, Sterling, De Bruyne, Cantwell
              Haller, Pukki

              Subs: Button, Greenwood, Kelly, Lundstram

              Already done a -4.

              A. Haller to Abraham for -4
              B. Free Hit
              C. Stick

              1. Hot Toddy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 22 days ago

                C

            12. The Pope
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              s