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Toney brace, Shaw return date and Antonio runs riot: FPL pre-season notes

We round up more pre-season friendly action involving Premier League teams in our latest Scout Notes piece.

We previously looked at six-top flight teams who took part in warm-up matches on Saturday and now we turn our attention to half a dozen more: Brentford, Manchester United, Southampton, Watford, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

We’ll have the goal, assist and line-up information from all these games plus brief Fantasy Premier League-centric notes on each clash.

Don’t forget to check out our comprehensive pre-season page for more information on the warm-up matches taking place ahead of Gameweek 1.

FPL pre-season: Trossard hits hat-trick from wing-back role 1

QUEENS PARK RANGERS 4-2 MANCHESTER UNITED

  • Goals: Jesse Lingard (£7.0m), Anthony Elanga
  • Assists: Facundo Pellistri, Shola Shoretire

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Luke Shaw (£5.5m), Jadon Sancho (£9.5m) and Harry Maguire (£5.5m) won’t be back in full training with Manchester United until the beginning of August, Ole Gunnar Solksjaer confirmed on Saturday.

The United boss was asked about his international contingent and their post-tournament breaks, with some players back on the grass today but others still a week away from a return:

Many will join in training on Monday so they’ve got their catch-up, a few weeks. That’s unfortunately the way it is, every year where there is a tournament, we have to catch up and hopefully they’ve done the work we’ve told them to do when they’re away.

The English players and Fred, the ones who went all the way to the finals in the Copa America and the Euros – they needed a longer break. They’ll be back with us in about 10 days’ time.

Shaw is also recovering from broken ribs but is confident of a swift comeback and his services may well be needed on the opening day against Leeds, with Alex Telles (£5.0m) set to be out for a “few weeks”.

Solskjaer said of the Brazilian:

Unfortunately, Alex slipped and he twisted his ankle so he’ll be out for a few weeks. We’re hoping that it’s not going to be too bad but he’ll be out for a little while.

United were demolished 4-2 by QPR on Saturday but any concern at the unexpected scoreline is eased with one glance at the Red Devils’ line-up, with Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m) and Mason Greenwood (£7.5m) the only real first-team regulars who were in action at Loftus Road.

Returning loanee Jesse Lingard (£7.0m) laid down a marker in the absence of Bruno Fernandes (£12.0m), slipping United into an early lead before Solskjaer’s troops shipped on four occasions.

Lingard was deployed in the hole of United’s customary 4-2-3-1, with Greenwood once again leading the line.

Anthony Elanga curled home a late consolation for the visitors, who should have a few regulars back when they host Brentford in midweek.

Manchester United XI: Heaton (Grant 46), Wan-Bissaka (Galbraith 65), Mengi (Bernard 79), Tuanzebe (Fish 79), Williams (Hugill 79), Andreas (Levitt 65), Matic (Garner 46), Pellistri (Mata 46), Lingard (Hannibal 65), James (Elanga 46), Greenwood (Shoretire 65).

CELTIC 2-6 WEST HAM UNITED

Toney brace, Shaw's return date and Antonio runs riot: more FPL pre-season notes 1
  • Goals: Michail Antonio (£7.5m) x2, Mark Noble (£4.5m) pen, Said Benrahma (£6.0m), Jarrod Bowen (£6.5m), Armstrong Oko-Flex
  • Assists: Noble, Pablo Fornals (£6.0m) x2, Antonio, Benrahma

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Having failed to make too much of an impression in West Ham’s first two warm-up games of the summer, Michail Antonio (£7.5m) burst into life at Celtic Park on Saturday.

Exploiting the hosts’ high defensive line and error-strewn display, Antonio had fired a warning shot across the Celtic bows when racing clear and forcing a save out of Vasilis Barkas.

The mid-price FPL forward didn’t need another sighter, subsequently latching onto a Mark Noble (£4.5m) pass to round Barkas and then dinking a finish past the Greek shot-stopper to double his tally.

Antonio was then flattened for Noble’s 38th-minute penalty and ‘assisted the assister’ for Said Benrahma‘s (£6.0m) second-half strike, which was teed up by Pablo Fornals (£6.0m).

The forward reinforced Noble’s standing as first-choice penalty-taker after the game before going on to hail his teammates’ goalscoring form in pre-season:

I definitely did want it but obviously when the skipper is on the field there is only one person taking it!

But the boys are out there scoring goals – Jarrod has got quite a few goals in pre-season so hopefully he can carry that on into the season, Said had been struggling to get on the scoresheet last season so it’s good he’s got on the scoresheet this season already.

One thing we definitely need this year is goals from a lot of different players.

David Moyes echoed Antonio’s sentiments:

All the main players are beginning to get goals and you want them to get the confidence because we want to keep doing what we did last year. I thought we were exciting to watch, we were entertaining at times, but while we’re doing that we also need to make sure we’re good enough at the other end. We conceded two today and we could have conceded a couple more on another day so we need to make sure we tighten that up. 

Pre-season results sometimes count for very little but exciting going forward and less than watertight at the other end was pretty much how the Hammers ended 2020/21: they were ranked joint-second for goals scored from Gameweek 29 onwards but kept just one clean sheet throughout that run.

Jarrod Bowen (£6.5m) has been West Ham’s star performer of the summer and has caught the eye with some advanced shooting positions. Having earlier seen a one-on-one opportunity saved, he bagged his fourth attacking return in three games with a beautifully flicked finish to put West Ham 5-2 up.

Former Celtic man Armstrong Oko-Flex rounded off the scoring in Glasgow.

Lukasz Fabianski (£5.0m) made his first appearance of pre-season but Tomas Soucek (£6.0m) and Vladimir Coufal (£5.0m) were still absent after their EURO 2020 exertions.

West Ham United XI: Fabiański (Randolph 46), Fredericks, Dawson (Alves 77), Ogbonna (Diop 5), Cresswell, Noble (Forson 87), Lanzini (Coventry 66), Bowen (Holland 87), Fornals, Benrahma (Oko-Flex 77), Antonio (Johnson 72).

WATFORD 1-3 BRENTFORD
WATFORD 0-0 WEST BROMWICH ALBION

  • Goals: Henry Wise pen | Ivan Toney (£6.5m) x2, Halil Dervişoğlu (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Sergi Canos (£5.5m)

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS (WATFORD V WEST BROM)

Watford split their squad across two pre-season friendlies on Saturday, with the weaker of the two matchday parties – featuring three trialists – downed by Brentford at the Hornets’ training ground in an untelevised encounter.

Ivan Toney (£6.5m), who still sits in more than one in three FPL squads, was responsible for two of the Bees’ three strikes, first heading home a Sergi Canos (£5.5m) cross and then firing in a free-kick.

The chance of a hat-trick went begging in the second half when he spurned a one-on-one opportunity but substitute Halil Dervişoğlu (£5.5m) added a third for the visitors before Watford responded with a late penalty.

Kristoffer Ajer (£4.5m) made his Bees debut and there may have been a signal as to Thomas Frank’s intentions in 2021/22 as the newly arrived ex-Celtic stopper took his place as one of three centre-halves in a wing-back system.

The Brentford website reported that Ajer got into a number of attacking positions, suggesting he may have license to roam from that back three this season.

There was again no Bryan Mbeumo (£5.5m), who also missed the win over Boreham Wood last Tuesday for unexplained reasons.

Watford drew a blank in their other match but budget forward Cucho Hernandez (£5.0m) really caught the eye on the left of Xisco’s front three, teeing up a handful of chances for his teammates and attempting the spectacular himself with two bicycle-kicks.

A misfiring Ismaila Sarr (£6.5m) wasted the best of those opportunities when completely shanking an effort from eight yards out but was at least continually getting into promising positions, also forcing a save after the interval and seeing a strong shout for a penalty waved away.

Watford XI v West Brom: Foster (Elliot 46), Ngakia (Abbott 75), Troost-Ekong (Langston 75), Cathcart (Hall 75), Masina (Trialist 7), Etebo (Wise 75), Gosling (Smith 75), Cleverley (Mebude 46), Sarr (Pochettino 60), Deeney (King 60), Hernández (Crichlow 60).

Watford XI v Brentford: Bachmann (Dahlberg 46), Trialist (Trialist 80), Sierralta (Trialist 63), Kabasele (Langston 46), Rose (Andrews 63), Louza (Muwonge 70), Lo-Everton (Smith 70), Sema (Wise 46), Baah (Crichlow 70), Fletcher (Hunter 70), Dennis (Mebude 70).

Brentford XI: Raya (Gunnarsson 60), Ajer (Racic 46), Goode (Stevens 60), Pinnock (Russell 60), Canós (Dervişoğlu 60), Baptiste (Haygarth 60), Janelt (Oksanen 60), Thompson (Gordon 60), Ghoddos (Valencia 60), Toney (Forss 60), Fosu (Roerslev 46).

REAL BETIS 0-1 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS

  • Goal: Patrick Cutrone
  • Assist: Nelson Semedo (£5.0m)

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Rayan Ait Nouri (£4.5m) had another ‘out of position’ run-out down the left wing on Saturday as Bruno Lage marked his first win as Wolves boss.

Lage tweaked his formation from a 4-4-2 to a 4-2-3-1, with Fabio Silva (£6.0m) benched and a sharp-looking Raul Jimenez (£7.5m) leading the line.

The Mexican was denied a one-on-one shooting opportunity thanks to a particularly horrendous offside call, while Ait Nouri caught the eye going forward – although again, the imminent return of Adama Traore (£6.0m) will mean that Lage soon has more natural options available to him down the flanks.

Wolves lost Willy Boly (£5.0m) to an early injury but we did see a number of their assets make their pre-season bows, including Jose Sa (£5.0m) and Nelson Semedo (£5.0m).

It was an advanced Semedo who teed up the only goal of the match, crossing for Patrick Cutrone to finish in the final 10 minutes.

Wolves were in action again on Monday, taking on Las Palmas – and we’ll have notes on that game tomorrow.

Wolves XI: Ruddy (Sa 46), Hoever (Semedo 46), Boly (Kilman 17), Saiss (Otasowie 76), Marcal (Mosquera 60), Perry (Neves 46), Moutinho (Marques 60), Gibbs-White (Cundle 60), Trincao (Silva 60), Ait-Nouri (Bueno 76), Jimenez (Cutrone 60).

SOUTHAMPTON 1-1 FULHAM

  • Goal: Shane Long
  • Assist: Michael Obafemi (£4.5m)

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

Southampton’s first pre-season involvement saw them draw a behind-closed-doors friendly with Fulham on Saturday.

New signing Romaine Perraud (£5.0m) got his first run-out in Ralph Hasenhuttl’s usual 4-2-2-2 set-up, with FPL midfielder Nathan Tella (£5.0m) deployed ‘out of position’ up top in the first half.

Moussa Djenepo (£5.5m) was used at left-back after the interval, showing his naivety in that position when giving away a spot-kick but impressing going in the other direction.

Shane Long tapped in Michael Obafemi‘s (£4.5m) cut-back for the Saints’ only goal, with the former joined by Danny Ings (£8.0m) in a front two for the second half.

Southampton first-half XI McCarthy, Walker-Peters, Stephens, Salisu, Perraud, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Walcott, Elyounoussi, Tella, Adams.

Southampton second-half XI: Forster, Valery, Bednarek, Salisu (Olufunwa 77), Djenepo, Diallo, Armstrong, Obafemi, Redmond, Long, Ings.

619 Comments Post a Comment
  1. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    The Scottish Premier League starts this weekend. I know possibly bad form to post Fantasy Football Scotland (FFS) here but if anyone is playing would welcome thoughts on my current team.

    Should explain in FFS if player does not play then highest bench player comes on so Hanratty will not play - moving to Formartine United so best bench player comes in

    Macey
    Tavernier McGinn Welsh
    Kent Turbull Adam Hanratty
    Nisbet Ramirez Boyce

    Sharp McKenzie McEneff McGhee

    1. grooveymatt65
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      (lost on the last page)

      hey guys! this is the latest draft of my
      team.

      Bachman Foster

      TAA Digne Ayling Bednarek Johnson

      Salah Fernandes Grealish Raphinha Bissouma

      Toney DCL Wilson

      0.0 itb

      Was thinking of doing Grealish Raphinha to Sarr and Beundia.. it free's up cash and means i could get Shaw and Henderson in (if he starts)

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Grealish to Beundia and get Shaw?

  2. Denniezy
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    12 Days To Go:

    1. Denniezy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      FPL League codes:
      aoczuh & 1b3ppt

      1. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Money league?

  3. The FPL Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How about this lot?

    Sanchez – 4.0
    TAA – Robbo – Coady/4.5 – White (Ars) - Omo
    Bruno – Salah – Gundo* - Harrison* - Brownhill
    Watkins - Toney – Nacho

    *13.5 mil to muck around with

  4. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    A Chilwell and Toney

    B Coufal and Wilson

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Difficult but A for me

  5. Little Frank
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Which one:
    A. Bruno and Jota or
    B. Sancho and Son

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Can I have Bruno & Robbo? lol

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A for me

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A

  6. Denniezy
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    What's the best FPL Strategy ever? a. DYOR
    b. BYOB
    c. DIY

    1. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Whats that?

      C is do it yourself ... Other two?

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        a) Do your own rolls
        b) Bring your own bacon

        1. 3 A
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Oh thanks. Nice to learn about your culture and langguage too.

          1. fish&chips
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            It's "Do your own research" and "Bring your own bottle" (for restaurants or parties where the host won't supply alcohol)

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Oh. I'm a strictly TLA man myself

            2. 3 A
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Tq.. all three definitely equal best 'strategies' then 😀

  7. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Raphaël Varane unveiling as Manchester United player expected next week, due to quarantine rules. Varane’s camp still working on it. Red circle #MUFC

    The deal is 100% DONE. Varane will fly to Manchester this week but will undergo his medical few days later.

    Fabrizio Romano

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Fair to the Glazer's, they're trying to buy ickle Ole a cup.

      1. Simon69
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Another "ickle" league title to add to his 6 including a treble winning season.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          He was a great player. Not sure he can buy a title as a manager, we’ll see.

          1. Simon69
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            City "buy well" - A team that literally bent over and sold its soul to oil barons in order to purchase relevance from mid table obscurity... But United are trying to buy a title? Yawn.

      2. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Im no Man U fan but spending 40m on a player isnt exactly massive these days

        1. Simon69
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          All of his comments are negative comments about MUFC. Somebody needs a hobby.

        2. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Well 114m thus far ….

        3. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Same money as White. Madness.

  8. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How do you guys see DCL performing? Think he can take advantage of their fixtures?

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Very wary to be honest . . .can he do that again? I dunno.

    2. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      High ownership. If he does well non owners in trouble

      1. FantasyClub
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Same Vice Versa

    3. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks guys. Have him in for now with Nacho and Watkins...will see how it goes. Antonio and Wilson injured too much for me.

      1. FantasyClub
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        That’s why take advantage now if their good fixtures before getting injured.

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      The question is can Everton perform with more consistency than they did under Carlo? I'd imagine Rafa can get them winning easier games at home and maybe losing more hard games away, which should help DCL overall, so yes.

    5. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A wait and see for me, is Rafa an 'attacking manager' or more pragmatic? I fear the latter. If DCL fires hes easy to get to at his price

    6. GoodFella93
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Think he's too busy buying his next handbag tbh

    7. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Prefer others

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I expect Everton to bring in another midfielder who would enable DCL. Lingard would be a good fit.

  9. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Couple of A or B type questions, would be great to hear a brief explanation too:

    A) Toney + Robbo/ B) DCL + Shaw

    A) Bruno + Mahrez/ B) Sancho + KDB

    A) Sancho + Mahrez/ B) Buendia + Bruno

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A
      A
      B

    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A
      A
      B

    3. Pops15
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A - Prefer the Toney punt atm due to the savings in cash and the uncertainty around Everton with players abstinent and a new manager. Robbo over Shaw as Shaw may not be back for GW1 but ideally I would like both long term. Really hopefully around Liverpool defence with new CB additions / VVD almost back and kind fixture run to start.

      A - Bruno and Mahrez will 100% be involved from the start. Sancho and KDB less likely with no preseason for Sancho and KDB recovering from an injury. Just take the two sure starters at this point in the season.

      B - Again with Sancho not being 100% to be involved from the get go. If we hear news otherwise then it makes the decision more difficult. Bruno and Buendia will both be the creative force in their sides and highly likely to be involved in any goals. Would like to wait and see how Sancho fits into the side even tho the money saved from Bruno to Sancho is tempting

      1. Pops15
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Absent***

  10. Joggers Nipple
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Morning! Been playing around I've somehow found a team I don't hate with 1.0M left over
    Things will obviously change but with this loose structure-

    Sanchez
    TAA Dias Coufal
    Salah Raphina Bruno Buendia
    Toney Wilson Watkins

    4.0 Cody Brownhill 4.0
    1.0 M ITB

    Sanchez to Henderson? Leaves 0.5M
    Brownhill to Smith Rowe 5.5? Leaves 0
    Happy to have one dead spot 4.0 def
    Cody could be any 4.5
    Loose plan of Bunedia to Saka/ Leeds mid when fixtures turn
    Have I spent too much in def with so many 'good' 4.5 defenders about?

    Any general thoughts really welcome, would love to be able to keep a little in the bank for once to ride out early price changes (wont happen!)

    Thanks for any thoughts

    1. Alcapaul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Dias to Robertson

      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, will keep that in mind

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Arise, Sir Joggers Nipple!

      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Morning sweetie!

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Mine nipples grate against mine breastplate!

  11. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Coufal or Keane?

    1. GoodFella93
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Always the full back. Similar clean sheet prospects although West Ham edges it anyway

    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I could make a case for either but went for Coufal as I think he offers more of an attacking threat/ assist

    3. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Coufal.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Coufal as Keane isn't nailed

  12. One Man
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Question is, is Sancho better than Rashfird ?

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Nope. Even Southgate doesnt rate him.

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Not at all

    3. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I'll consider him if he is below 8.0 mill

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        "if"???

        1. 3 A
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Too pricey to be in my plan.

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Yes and he’s fit.

    5. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      No.
      Sancho = assists
      Rashford = goals
      Bruno = both

  13. Boothy
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    My current dilemma…

    Henderson and welbeck?
    Or
    Sanchez snd toney?

    1. Ziyech on the Bench
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Sanchez toney see below

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A

    3. Steiger
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Has to be B. Never really considered Welbeck as a reliable fantasy asset as he's always injured.

    4. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      B

    5. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      S & T

    6. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Sanc and others

  14. Ziyech on the Bench
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Pretty settled on this team…any thoughts chaps?

    Sanchez / Foster

    TAA, Chilwell, Fofana / White , 4.0

    Bruno, Salah, Mahrez, ESR / 4.5

    Watkins, Nacho, Toney

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Looks fine

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Close to my latest effort.

      Sanchez – 4.0
      TAA – Robbo – Coady/4.5 – White (Ars) - Omo
      Bruno – Salah – Gundo* - Harrison* - Brownhill
      Watkins - Toney – Nacho

      *13.5 mil to muck around with

      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Tis only 50% or so close.

    3. Spoox777
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      * Don't like Sanchez. You'll be getting rid after the first couple of GW's.
      * Better options than Mahrez.

      Chilwell > James saving 0.5m to upgrade 4.0m DEF to 4.5m ?

  15. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Dcl or Antonio?

    1. Spoox777
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      DCL

    2. FantasyClub
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Antonio

  16. smix
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How is Lingard as an option ? Seems to be having a decent pre season and with Rashford out could he be a starter in the first few games ?

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      He won’t play. Shop window innit.

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah feels like a Bruno back up at best to me.

  17. FantasyClub
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Hi guys, who is the next best 4.5 GK in addition to Sanchez?
    I’m going for Bench Boost GW1...

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Probably Bachman

      1. FantasyClub
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Would a Southampton GK be better?
        Or too unpredictable who’ll line up?

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah I don’t think anyone know who will start.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Batman the only candidate really.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Although hang on. If it's for GW1 BB only, if you're very lucky and both Newcastle's keepers are out, Freddie Woodman could be added at 4.0m

              1. FantasyClub
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                What’s wrong with Darlow?

  18. R.C
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Two spots left for 4.5 def - who would you pick? (Non-rotating)

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Ait-Nouri ; White

    2. Boywiththesoupdragontattoo
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Ayling, White.

  19. tom66
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Timo Werner - worth a gamble for GW1? If Chelsea do not sign another striker in time, does he start? Thanks!

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I think he does. Want to see some pre season line ups.

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      No.

  20. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Which duo looks better?

    A. Sarr and Mahrez
    B. DCL and Maddison

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      B

  21. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Dammit, I've been tooing and froing for weeks, but I've made my final decision - double 'Pool defence.
    TAA/Robbo/Salah it is. Bye bye Jota - Buendia will be a fine deputy until I wildcard after TDD when I endeavour to fit Kane and Haaland into my squad (which will mean 5x4.5 defenders probably)

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      No VVD at the start

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        He's expected to be, that's why I've gone for it. Due to start the next friendly.

        1. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Wont start the next friendly. Could be involved

      2. Bushwhacker
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Plays Thursday ; if no reaction he’ll likely play against Norwich.

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I'm tempted as well but I feel it's better to keep a spot open at the start of the season. Though if I were tripling up, I'd certainly go for Robbo over Jota. WC teams will be quite interesting this season.

    3. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Don’t think you’ll need to worry about Haaland.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        He's just a 'thought' for now, but more seriously, I expect to stack my WC squad with City, Chelsea and Leeds - I only have 1 in my current GW1 squad.

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah I’ve got Leeds from the outset … gonna score and get scored against no matter the opponent.

  22. DavvaMC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Hi

    I had Rob Holding last year for quite sometime and he did well for me, is his position nailed this season though?

    Thanks

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      No, White should knock him out. Same price though.

      1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        You say it based on what?
        White still even signed the contract, not to mention practice with Arsenal.
        I can see Holding nailed for the start of the season.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          You go with Holding then. Everyone else is going with White.

          1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Why does it matter with who everyone else going?
            The fact are that White didn’t do even one session with Arsenal, why would he be nailed ?
            Could be that as the season progresses he will take one of the can place (you don’t but 50m player to be on the bench), but for now, I see Holding as nailed

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              That's fine. You do you.

              1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                Would expect from a poster like you to develop a conversation , but if that’s your answers so be it..

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 11 Years
                  2 years, 9 months ago

                  I converse with polite posters. Aggressive ones can do one.

            2. Blues for Salah
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              I'll leave my two cents here . . .

              I just don't like the idea of starting the season with a 4.5 asset where it looks like I'm going to have to use a transfer pretty much right away. What's the latest that White supplants Holding at starting CB, week 3 after the break?

              At *best*, Holding has a starting gig for two weeks, and I wouldn't even trust that. If what you really want to find is a 4.5 defender who is nailed as your primary concern, and you don't trust that White will go straight in to the Arsenal XI, then I'd be looking at some asset other than Holding *or* White . . . maybe Ayling or Fofana is a safer choice to start the season. I like Fofana because I trust Leicester not to be garbage and Fofana looks fine to me parked on my bench most weeks as my #4 defender in a 3-4-3 system.

              White's arrival at worst puts a giant question mark over Holding's head and gives every indication that the points Holding earned over the course of the last season won't be replicated in the coming season. I think Andy's point (if I may) is that if you are so committed to the idea of sticking with Holding in the face of that uncertainty, then by all means it's your team and go ahead and do it - but there's ample evidence staring you in the face that it's at best an unnecessary risk for anyone wanting to make it past week 3 with their WC intact.

              1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                Thanks for commenting. I didn’t say I am going Holding, just say that we don’t know if White is more nailed than him as he didn’t if signed the contract.

                Regarding your comment, fofana is same case as Holding- Evans, Suy, and him fighting for 2 cb spots (I know Evans currently injured, but will he not be fit in 3 weeks ?), unless BR gonna play 3 at the back. So, IMO same same.

                1. Blues for Salah
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  2 years, 9 months ago

                  I don't think I'd be using the term "nailed" in discussing such a short window of time. It's pretty much crystal clear that Arsenal has brought in White to feature regularly in the defense over the course of the season, while Holding's long-term prospects aren't looking so certain. For people who aren't going to waste transfers on 4.5 defenders, White should be considered nailed. I don't think of "nailed" as a word that's describing a continuum - you are either a regular starter (nailed) or you are not. Over the length of the coming season, I'd bet you that White will fit the description of nailed and Holding won't. Holding *might* get a start or two early in the season while White beds in, but he's still likely a wasted transfer waiting to happen.

                  Brendan pretty much does play three at the back. Fofana looks like he will continue to get regular run just like he did last season (nailed). Unless there's some indication later in the pre-season as teams start to approach full strength that there's been a major tactical shift inside Brendan's head, then Fofana is nailed. There's even been buzz about Soy being moved along.

                  So, to me the claim that Fofana's path to minutes is same same to Holding's just isn't anywhere near what I'd call sound analysis.

                  1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    2 years, 9 months ago

                    All what you wrote is fine, but tbh ,for now, it’s all speculations and assumptions. In both cases, we should see. I don’t say that you or Andy wrong, just say that we are still in pre-season and every other statement should be taken with a pinch of salt. White not an Arsenal player yet, hence can see him as nailed, Holding for now will open for now.
                    BR didn’t play every game 3 atb, so we shall see how will he play. The soy one I didn’t hear of, if that is the case, Fofana appeal getting stronger

                    1. Blues for Salah
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      2 years, 9 months ago

                      It's not speculations and assumptions. It's the product of analysis and understanding that a team doesn't splash 50m without a plan (outside of the Etihad, at least). Fofana's game log should be enough to wake you up a little bit to the clue that you obviously don't have.

                      https://scores.nbcsports.com/epl/players.asp?player=280490

                      I can see why Andy got frustrated talking to you.

                2. Blues for Salah
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  2 years, 9 months ago

                  Super quick addition about Fofana. Check last year's game log. His first appearance of the season was October 18 and he appeared in 28 games from that point forward. Looks to me like he played pretty much every week except for February. Injured?

                  1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    2 years, 9 months ago

                    Seems good, let’s continue monitoring.

    2. DavvaMC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Forgot to say the same for Smith-Rowe will he be nailed do you think?

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        If Arsenal don't bring another midfielder, he should play a lot of games. They were hoping to get Odegaard back.

        1. DavvaMC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks mate.

  23. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Buendia (4-4-2)
    Bench: Obafemi, Ayling, Brownhill

    OR

    Toney (4-3-3)
    Bench: Gilmour, Ayling, Brownhill

    Between two minds, but the higher goal threat of Toney appeals to me. Already have Watkins from Villa.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Generally the striker edges it, I'd go with your hunch

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Its a tough one to figure out. Might go down to the wire.

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Buendia.

    3. Pops15
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      With those 3 juicy first fixtures I have to give the edge to Buendia

  24. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Suddenly my team went to zero brighton defenders from double
    Henderson seems best value there at gk

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, I had triple Seagulls at one point: Sanchez, Lamptey and Welbeck. All gone now.
      I'm also on a 5m keeper, but it's Pickford for his pre-WC fixtures. tbf, Hendo's are identical difficulty, but I already have Shaw and Sancho, and could add AWB later.

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I had welbeck too!
        But I trust in him and it’s really likely that I pick him if he is fit and they don’t sign another striker

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Problem is he and Lamptey are injured, like they so often are.

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Think it very possible that they'll get Edouard when they have banked cash from White

          He could be exactly what they need. Hard to evaluate players from Old Firm clubs but he has a useful pedigree and I suspect he could be the real deal.

          Not keen on new transfers who come in late - see below - but he'd go right onto my watchlist

  25. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Is Martinez worth his higher price this year? Not convinced by any of the 4.5m set and forget options. Maybe hendo or pickford for 0.5m cheaper.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      He is if he repeats his standards of last season. I might jump on him later, but there are good 5.0 options to go with (I'm starting with Pickford with an intention to move over to Meslier later) if you don't fancy Sanchez or Bachmann.

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Have Martinez in my current draft. Might switch to hendo or pickford. Not too keen on playing sanchez or bachmann

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I'm between Meslier or Pickford I think .
      I like Meslier in the long-haul, but also aware I'll WC twice so should think in 10-15 game chunks - in which case fixtures are kinda garbage for Leeds.

      And really Sanchez is still a go for me...Brighton's fixtures are awesome and the system they play is good defensively, even without Dunk or White (and I think Lamptey being injured helps them defensively).

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, for me it often comes down to whether that 0.5m is more urgently needed elsewhere.

        1. RogDog_jimmy
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          yah - it's not really that important for me at the moment, it's a 6.5/7.0 midfielder which I'm fine with either way.

          might bank the 0.5 though for transfers though

      2. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Might just go with pickford if I decide to dump martinez. Cheers

  26. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Best mid option for 5.5m max?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Gotta be ESR. Only alternative is Dallas

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Agree with Andy mostly

      Did have Mbeumo very high on my list. Potentially OOP and good record and on her pieces

      Puzzled at no show in preseason. Thought he could be a potential early season bolter and equal value to the more expensive Toney. Not entirely written him off yet.

      Doubt Dallas. He could be reverse OOP early on anyway and overshot XG last season massively.

      Cantwell also on a watchlist - but not an early season pick

      1. lilmessipran
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Her pieces? Wonder why would autocorrect do that for you

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          `;-`)

          Maybe his record on her pieces has made him unavailable. Sounds dodgy

          Set pieces.

      2. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers

    3. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Fraser hopefully if he can nailed a spot 😀

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Good call

        5.5 could be great value. Really long lay off though means for me he's only watchlist material almost irrespective of preseason form and selection. One of those better a week late calls.

        1. 3 A
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah. He is quality and I think he should play more centrally, close to Wilson..hehe

  27. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Are West Ham genuinely interested in signing Mattid Pereira? Would be great for last season's price.

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Fascinated to see where he'll end up

      Fairly heavily linked with Leeds I think - that would be my dream FPL move.

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        He should be 6m max.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Forget how many be actually scored last season but he must be close to 6.5 territory.

          He could well be value at that given likely uptick at a stronger club.

          Everton are another possibility perhaps if they are looking to replace Siggy/James. Could be interesting there too.

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      as a whu fan - i hope so!
      think he'd be great.

      hasn't been much noise lately, waiting for some moves to happen.

  28. Philosopher's Stones
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Not seen KDB in most draft teams. Any particular reasons why people are avoiding him?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      May not be fit to start GW1 plus cant have him if you own Salah-Bruno

      1. Philosopher's Stones
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I've found a way to fit all three of Salah, Bruno and KDB, that's why I was wondering. Though if he's unfit for GW1, no point having him i guess.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          As you can only captain one, having all 3 seems sub-optimal.

          1. Philosopher's Stones
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Good point. Who do you reckon I get instead of KDB? Son or anyone else? Though I'm not quite convinced on Son yet due to the new manager and the Kane issue still lingering.

            1. GreennRed
              • 12 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Son!

              1. Philosopher's Stones
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                Thanks.

        2. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Can I ask who else you have with the golden trio?

          1. Philosopher's Stones
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Raphinha and Brownhill

          2. RogDog_jimmy
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            i did one like this;

            Sanchez, 4.0
            2x 5.5, 2x 4.5, 4.0
            Salah, Bruno, KDB, Raphinha, ESR
            Watkins, Toney, 4.5

            its pretty good really - but KDB i'm waiting to see how he goes.

            1. Rassi
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Thin bench is a risk, but you probably know that.

              1. RogDog_jimmy
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 9 months ago

                oh yeah - i won't end up doing this. but it's in the drafts as an exercise.

  29. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Will Gil be nailed at spurs? Seems like he's competing with Moura, anyone else?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      will probably be used as sub initially, he is 20

  30. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Have a preference for clubs with a settled set up and uninterrupted preseason generally - with due allowance made for premiums at top clubs

    What is your cut off date for brining in players coming in as transfers?

    On my scheme Buendia is right in the mix but anyone coming in from this week I'm sceptical about.

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Before Aug 1

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Probably already passed unless its from another Premier League team. This pre season is such a disaster anyway the teams that hit the ground running will likely be those with the largest carry over and fewest commitments.

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Agree on the Premier League point

        Logistically it's a big deal coming from another country.