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Should I buy Ivan Toney in FPL? A Brentford fan’s perspective

Ivan Toney (£6.5m) is now the highest-owned forward in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), sitting in 30% of pre-Gameweek 1 squads at the time of writing.

But is the hype surrounding the 31-goal striker justified?

Having previously taken a more general, statistical overview of Brentford’s midfielders and forwards in our Promoted series, we wanted a fan’s perspective on the former Newcastle United and Peterborough United hitman.

We asked Fantasy Football Scout user and Brentford fan Jamie (aka Belisha Beacon) a few questions on what FPL managers can expect in 2021/22.

What is Toney’s playing style – could you liken him to any other forward in terms of physicality/pace/hold-up play etc?

“His speciality is finding the tiniest bit of space away from his marker and finishing first time (something that should hopefully bode well in the top flight, with chances likely to be at more of a premium), as well as being a taker of a string of very cool penalties.

“He’s a real team leader and surely a future captain. He is also invaluable when it comes to helping out in defence at set pieces; he certainly prevented a few goals each season for us and for Peterborough, which is not something you can say for every number 9! 

“A striker talisman with the physical presence to win challenges at both ends… the top-knot Drogba?!”

Does he have any weaknesses to his game?

“There’s not much to report here on the evidence of last season. He picks up a few yellows for dissent; he gets fouled a lot but needs to control his temper in tough situations.

“He’s also a player who can seem to drift off the radar for spells in games but he has the patience to keep working for the team.”

Having seen the likes of Bamford, Mitrovic, Pukki etc in the last few years, where does he stand in the high-scoring pantheon of recent Championship strikers? Is 31 goals a fair reflection?

Bamford, Bale, Aguero and Forster on the bench for Gameweek 38 matches

“I’m not an expert on the strengths of all the other players you’ve mentioned but the goal record speaks for itself.

“We lost a lot of creativity last season with the departures of Ollie Watkins and Said Benrahma, so it said a lot for him to step into our team and break the goalscoring marks set by Neal Maupay and Watkins in the two prior years.

“I suppose you have to separate the penalties (11 out of 31) without ignoring them, as I doubt we can win that many in the Premier League.”

Do you have any concerns that Brentford won’t create enough chances for him in the top flight?

“That is the number one question for the club this summer, of course. We’ll have to get used to having less of the ball than we had in many games in the Championship.

“I may regret this prediction but I think some Premier League defences sit back and afford a little more space to opponents to play a pass than some of the more bruising Championship sides, who we often struggled against in the past. And we acquitted ourselves well in several cup matches against Premier League teams last season (beating Fulham, Southampton and Newcastle to nil and West Bromwich Albion on penalties, scoring eight goals in the process), so I’m hopeful that we’ll make a decent number of chances in the majority of games. There’ll be some hard days, though, for sure!”

It’s a bit of an impossible question but what do you think is a realistic target for him, goals and assists wise, in 2021/22?

“If we’re going to not only survive but try to excel amongst the bottom half teams this season, which I think we will, we’ll be aiming for 40-50 goals as a team.

“I think Toney will want to surpass what our past players Andre Gray, Maupay and even Watkins managed in their first seasons in the Premier League and aim to score about 15, including a few penalties, and maybe supply eight assists. It might sound optimistic but given his 50%+ goal involvement last year, it’s not too outrageous.”

Will you be starting with him in Gameweek 1 in FPL?

“Yes. £6.5m is not cheap for a promoted team striker, but I am confident he’ll look like a bargain when in form and it may only take one goal against Arsenal for people to be clamouring to sign him for the following weeks.”

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  1. FPL_trail_runner
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone ignoring City for Norwich game?

    Im coming around to the idea of not investing in them

    Havertz to Son may be my move, since Son is a keeper for 2-3-4

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Spurs a big unknown this year though.

      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Its more i expect Wolves Watford Palace to be ample for goals

        Would rather though if Kane was already sold for Son's pen certainty

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Right now don't have any plans for any city players. We have no idea who will start except Ederson and Dias.

  2. n-doggg
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A. Grealish and coufal
    B. Havertz and white
    C. Mahrez and amartey

  3. PartyTime
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Robertson leaves hospital with protective boot & crutches.

    Is Jota nailed to start the season?

    1. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Not at left back he isn’t

      1. PartyTime
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        🙂

    2. PartyTime
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Asking because I see Firmino in the line up today

    3. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino played 2 pre season games plus Ox

      1. PartyTime
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Ok. Thanks so what’s your assumption?

        Normally I would think Klopp would start is usual front 3 the season opener, which could mean Jota on the bench although I’ve got no clue

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Lot will depend on how Bobby fares tonight I reckon.

      2. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Isn’t this Firmino’s first pre-season friendly?

  4. Vazza
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts guys on this No Salah team

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Tsimikas
    Bruno Son Raphina Jota Greenwood
    Lukaku Bamford

    Foster, Amartey, Manquillo, Obafemi

    Assumption: Lukaku to be priced at 10.5m when added to the game

    0.00 ITB

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No Salah is one think but no Salah or mane is punchy!

      Would also expect Lukaku to be 11+

      Would be great if he was 10.5 though

    2. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Don't knee jerk lukaku. Give him a few gw to settle. He likely won't play first match and he might fail miserably

    3. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno and greenwood but no Salah??

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku will be 11.5 ; and not worth having for five or six weeks

  5. MOZIL
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Is Maupay nailed?

  6. John Colby (Capt)
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Please rate my team. I’ll likely be wildcarding around GW8:

    Bachman
    TAA Shaw Digne
    Salah Son Greenwood Barnes Raphinha
    Ings Antonio

    Foster Coady Veltman Perica
    0.5 in the bank.

    1. Vazza
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I really like it.

      I personally don’t like Digne (inconsistent), Ings (injury prone) and Antonio (injury prone) but otherwise good team

    2. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Son > Bruno and Digne > 4.0

      1. John Colby (Capt)
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers Vazza and Carlton P. Interesting thoughts. I was going with Buendia instead of Ings but he’s yellow-flagged at the moment. Digne is inconsistent - he’s burned me plenty of times before in fantasy football

  7. Fletch69
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    So with 9 players testing positive for Covid today, is having 3 playing subs a "must have'?

    1. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      No way.

  8. Kingy109
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    So as I have space for a £4mill defender anyway and am tripling on 'Pool to target COVID inflicted Norwich:
    a) Amartey/Jota (3-4-3 with TAA, Dias, Cresswell, Amartey will be bench)
    b) Tsmikas/Barnes (possible 4-3-3 with other defenders as above, Raphina is most likely to be benched in midfield)
    c) Tsmikas/Gundo (triple City with Dias and Mahrez)

    I'm thinking A) as no point wasting a 4.0 mill slot on a 'Pool asset you are not going to play??

    1. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      A

  9. Pedersen
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    My team is completely red. Never planned for that xD

    Sanchez // 4m
    TAA, Shaw, Coufal, White // Amartey
    Salah, Bruno, Jota, ESR // Raphinha
    Antonio, Ings // Obafemi

    Leaves me with 1itb. Plan to get Son somehow soon though

  10. Starvaiger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A) Buendia (+1m - enough to get Lukaku for DCL)
    B) Greenwood

    1. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku price is not out yet? I would say 1m on top of DCL is far from enough (about 2m more and you might have it)

      1. Starvaiger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I missed a key bit of info - i have 2.5 ITB!

        1. Pedersen
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Then no need to knee jerk yet. His price will probably be out by Friday. Also i would prefer son over lukaku

  11. Donnie Chen
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think?

    Martinez (Steer)
    TAA Tsimikas Shaw (White Coufal)
    Salah Mount Gundogan Grealish (Bissouma)
    Cavani Antonio Ings

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I think I would like to see Grealish play a game or 2 first. Not a fan of Bissouma with so many options in midfield. Even Mbuemo at 5.5 would give you an opportunity at some decent points. Good luck.

  12. TheBiffas
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Livramento or Omobalidele?

    1. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Liv

      1. shakeyjake
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Does he start over Perraud/KWP?

  13. FPL_trail_runner
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Nobody here has Vardy , very template forward lines

    I expect him to possible be the games top scorer by the end of week 3.

    The new Wolves and Norwich are excellent games for him

    1. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I expect him to get around 30min total in first 3 gw. They got both Nacho and Daks to play his place

      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        He is nailed to start in a 4 2 3 1

        Leicester have played the same team the last two pre season games

        For first weeks its obvious he starts

    2. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I've got him. If lukaku isn't available I'll keep him

    3. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Very uncertain how Leicester line up ; Daka and Ihean are there to replace him ; how quickly remains to be seen.

  14. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A Benrahma and Coufal

    B Raphinha and Ayling

    1. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Start with A

      I don’t like Leeds fixtures

    2. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Coufal + Harrison?

  15. Tcheco
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A. Mane + Coufal

    B. Jota + Coufal

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      All 3

    2. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      FAIL

      A. Mane + Coufal

      B. Jota + Son

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I'd say Jota yesterday but now that Firmino is back and starting, I'd go Mane personally.

      2. squ1rrel
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        B

      3. Pedersen
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I don't like mane, i really like Son. So B

      4. Tcheco
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you lads. I just really want to double up on Pool attack. I feel mane is best option but overall Jota Son seems more diverse

  16. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Different positions but is Toney a better pick than Digne?

    1. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

      1. Wild Card this!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        How do you know?

        1. Tcheco
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Good question

    2. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I would say no. Toney is likely to fall in price too if he doesn't score gw 1

    3. PartyTime
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

      1. PartyTime
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        * trust me bro

  17. Vazza
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts guys on this No Salah team

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Tsimikas
    Bruno Son Raphina Jota Greenwood
    Vardy Bamford

    Foster, Amartey, Manquillo, Obafemi

    0.00 ITB

    1. Kingy109
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      3 x 4.0 mill defenders = early wild card???

      1. Vazza
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Great point, I just need one to play out of these three every week and I’m ok. Hopefully Brandon Williams will get his loan move to Norwich and I will move him for Manquillo

    2. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno and greenwood but no Salah?

  18. R.C
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    What happens to Tsimikas when CL starts - will he play PL or CL or both?

    (If Robbo is not back yet)

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo will be back by all news today ; otherwise Millie might play CL

  19. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Monstrous looking midfield in this one

    Sanchez (Foster)
    Veltman Tsimikas Amartey (White Ayling)
    Salah Fernandes Son Mahrez Jota
    Ings Toney (Obafemi)

    1. squ1rrel
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Disastrous looking defense in this one

      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        well sure but look at that firepower!

    2. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      And absolutely crap def

      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        but the goal scoring potential!

    3. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      If this looks unbalanced --> moves like Son > Pepe could allow for Amartey + White > Shaw + Digne

    4. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Mahrez > Barnes and get Shaw and cresswell for 2X4.5s

      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Right, see above. There's definite ways to make the defense feel safer to start with

    5. FPL_trail_runner
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I like it

      Short term can do well till you wildcard

      Ignore the comments , if you like it go for it

  20. balint84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A) bruno
    B) greenwood+ ings

    Which is better?

    1. danlynch13
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      There must be another player in this equation

  21. danlynch13
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Benrahma or raphina to start the season. Benrahmas pre season form and more favourable fixtures are tempting

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Depends on your team. Good option once you’re not taking too many punts elsewhere. Good luck.

      1. danlynch13
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Team at the moment is

        Sanchez
        TAA-Shaw-Pereria
        Salah-Raphinia-Bruno-Barnes
        Ings-Antonio-Toney

        Foster-White-Gilmore-Tsmiskas

    2. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Depends if you have other risky picks like Jota, city, Greenwood

  22. flippetyflop
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    About to start a draft fantasy league - based on the below it's better to prioritise midfielders and forwards right?

    Any other main considerations?

    There's a smaller points gap between the top 10 defenders so I should prioritise midfield and strikers.
    I.E Robbo (highest scoring defender) finished on 142 whereas Stones in (10th place) finished on 117

    Top 10 defenders.
    Robertson 142 - Trent 134 - AWB - 133 - Cresswell 132 - Dias 130 Targett 129 Chilwell 128 Mings 120 Cancel 120 Stones 117

    25 points gap between 1st and 10th.

    Top 10 midfielders

    Salah 210 Bruno 208 Son 202 Mane 162 Dallas 156 Harrison 145 Sterling 144 JWP 139 Gundo 135 Bowen 133

    77 point gap between 1st and 10th

    Top 10 Forwards -

    Kane 202 Bamford 168 Vardy 164 Watkins 150 DCL 144 Rash 142 Firmino 126 Wood 122 Adams 121 Werner 121

    81 point gap

  23. FFFoxy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A) Ings & Benrahma
    or
    B) Watkins & Buendia?

  24. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Benrahma or EL Ghazi?

    1. devoncop
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Benrahema by a country mile.

      El Ghazi may be on pens....when he plays...but creatively he is not in the same ball park in open play. Villa fans dont rate him at all.

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Latter far less likely to start

  25. Ronnies
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Best option;

    A) Tsimikas + Barnes + 0.5

    B) Amartey + Jota

    Have TAA and Salah.

    Cheers

    1. MARVELLUS
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I am in the same position, currently going for A. Also means you can bench an Eve Man U defender when they play Leeds if you wanted to.

    2. Kingy109
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Also in same position. I am on B. Does Tsimikas play in your or is he sat on the bench?

  26. MadeinIreland
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    I don’t see many people going for Ziyeck?

    Seems to be scoring well in preseason.

    Any views? I have him in my draft at the minute.

    Thanks

    1. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Bad fixtures on untested team. I might get him for Jota after few gw

  27. sir_al
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Chelsea midfield is a minefield right now

  28. John Colby (Capt)
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Brentford fans:
    Does your team have the quality to supply chances for Toney this season. Watkins and Benrahma are big, creative

    1. Belisha Beacon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Well that was one of the questions Neale asked me. We have decent attacking players who will create chances whether we play 4-3-3 or 3-5-2.
      We've also recruited new and returning options in central midfield who can drive forward - Onyeka and Baptiste will get game time and Cajuste might be joining too - and Yoanne Wissa is certain to be unveiled over the next couple of days, another goalscoring wide forward to join Mbeumo, Canos and Fosu, and the attacking full backs.
      I can't say for sure how the quality of our players will stack up because this is a new world for us but we are not a one man team, it's not just lump it to Toney every 5 mins.

      1. John Colby (Capt)
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Many thanks for that informed answer Belisha.

  29. sir_al
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Bachmann 4.0
    Digne Shaw Amartey Stones (white)
    Salah Bruno mane jota Barnes
    Toney 4.5 4.5

    Settled and ready! Come on Brentford!

    1. devoncop
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      So Toney gets injured....where do you go ?

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Rodrigo an option, I guess

        1. devoncop
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Leeds only using Rodrigo intermittently in preseason and he hasn't looked great. Would have thought if Toney flops or is injured it is a guaranteed two transfers straight away.

      2. sir_al
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I was thinking deeney if injured