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FPL Gameweek 17 team drafts: Odegaard over Martinelli and Saka?

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Here, Burning Questions co-host Sonaldo (aka Andy) talks us through his Gameweek 17 thoughts and plans.

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According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the word anticipation “implies a prospect or outlook that involves advance suffering or enjoyment of what is foreseen.” I want to assume that whoever defined anticipation was thinking about FPL.

While the World Cup break was much needed for many managers, you can feel the anticipation in the air as FPL is about to return to full flow. Whether we suffer with red arrows or enjoy the green variety, certainly the game we love is officially back.

In this article, I try to explain my decisions with some difficult 50/50 calls before presenting my team. Of course, my team is not 100% set and things are subject to change before the deadline. 

KDB v Salah

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It feels like a huge swing in variance is about to happen with the Kevin De Bruyne (£12.6m) v Mohamed Salah (£12.8m) decision. No matter how people feel about this, to me, it is a very tight call and I feel I can make strong arguments for each side. I am leaning towards one or the other (on De Bruyne for now) and don’t see a scenario where I will get both. This is because owning the pair and Erling Haaland (£12.2m) means a lot of money tied up on three players and makes my overall team weaker. I wouldn’t recommend a ‘threemium’ if your team value is quite low. 

I also think that those who will go for Harry Kane (£11.6m) have a perfectly sound reason to do so. Let’s remember Kane has only blanked three times this season (consistency is king) so he is a perfectly fine premium option to go with as Spurs have a Double Gameweek 20 if no FA Cup third-round replay for the Lilywhites or Manchester City is needed. However, with Darwin Nunez (£9.0m) as my second-choice striker and Kane’s expensive price point, he is out of the picture for me. 

The common narrative that we are all aware of is that De Bruyne has become more of an assist-type FPL player, while Salah is now up top with Darwin and can be more explosive. But this season, Liverpool have struggled- and with it Salah, too. Essentially, the Egyptian is just not getting the same amount of chances as we are used to. Furthermore, because De Bruyne is creating so many big chances, his bonus points potential is quite high, while Salah has never been a bonus magnet. There is also an interesting stat about Salah still yet to receive a spot-kick this season, which means his penalty opportunities may come soon. 

After our Burning Questions episode with Pras on Thursday, I was hoping the Carabao Cup tie between City and Liverpool would ease my decision and I think it helped a bit. 

City v Liverpool

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City started without their strongest squad and had two young guns, Cole Palmer (£4.3m) and Rico Lewis (£3.9m), in the starting XI, both of whom played excellently.

Palmer, who usually plays on the right in Riyad Mahrez‘s (£7.5m) role, was deployed on the opposite flank. This could be seen as a classic Guardiola tactic as he wants his wingers to use the width of the pitch.

Lewis, who started at right-back, was basically playing Joao Cancelo’s (£7.4m) role. What happens with this formation is that City transform into a 2-3-5 when attacking. We have seen this formation shift many times throughout this season. In this particular game, Lewis moved in to midfield alongside Rodri (£5.6m), allowing for both De Bruyne and Ilkay Gundogan (£7.3m) to run up the pitch with freedom and join a five-man attack (Palmer, Haaland, Mahrez, De Bruyne and Gundogan). 

Why am I mentioning these tactical shifts? Because what we learned once again from this game is that no matter which players play for City, the system is so strong that the quality of football they display is not hurt with the absence of key players.

Below is an image from a Premier League game back in August versus Newcastle. You can see the same exact pattern where City shift to a 2-3-5. The three here in this case involves Cancelo and Kyle Walker (£4.8m) shifting in alongside Rodri. 

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This next image was from the Carabao Cup, where you can see Gundogan and De Bruyne forming part of a five-man attack when pushing up the pitch. 

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While this is not the only way City play, it is a quite common tactical pattern. The opposition defence is overwhelmed at times because centrally they need to mark Haaland, De Bruyne and Gundogan. But if the defence comes too central, then the wide wingers in Palmer and Mahrez have all the space in the world to create 1v1 situations. Gundogan is allowed to move up with De Bruyne because Lewis (or Cancelo) covers in the midfield with Rodri. 

Therefore in this game vs Liverpool, we saw many chances where City would spread the ball wide to Palmer or Mahrez, which would attract a defender to them and allow for space in behind for Gundogan or De Bruyne to run through (much like Granit Xhaka (£5.1m) at Arsenal). 

This all ties back to De Bruyne, who had all the space in the world in this game to create chances through his god-like crossing ability. And who is waiting in the middle? Erling Haaland.

The quick summary here is that regardless of rotation for this game, City’s attacking approach was flawless and De Bruyne in this system is a cheat code. You may argue that Liverpool don’t sit back like other teams would, but the same can be said about the Reds themselves, who have struggled to break down teams that sit back this season. Plus, City play Leeds first, which is a perfect De Bruyne-type of game. 

On the flip side of this attacking 2-3-5 is that it opens a lot of space on the counter for teams playing against City. Since you have just two at the back, as long as the opposition (Liverpool) can counter fast, they can utilize this space in behind. City in general want the ball and are trying to command games and are always marching forward. We saw this in this game where City were caught on the counter and using Nunez’s speed, Salah was also able to get a goal. 

The stand-out player from Liverpool’s attack for me was Nunez. But Nunez is Nunez’s worst enemy. While he is a speed demon with marvelous off-the-ball movement, his finishing has been woeful at times (zero shots on target on Thursday). The assist to Salah was fantastic, but I question if we will see his finishing ability get stronger in the short term. 

In all, I still think one game is too little to judge both teams, but De Bruyne showed enough signs that he is coming for the league after a difficult World Cup. 

Salah could easily explode and be back to his best so I want to keep my options open till the last day, but right now, I am leaning much more towards De Bruyne given his potential doubles as well. 

Arsenal

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Arsenal are top of the Premier League and have been in marvelous form this season. Their team attacking xG data is quite similar to 2021/22 but their defensive xGC stats have risen tremendously.

While the initial fixtures are not the best from Gameweek 17, Arsenal’s schedule does improve around Gameweek 22 and there is a high potential that a ‘double’ falls for them in Gameweek 21. So, it is impossible to ignore their assets now as we will want them in a month’s time.

This makes Ben White (£4.7m) a no-brainer for me as I don’t want to have to deal with bringing him in later. However, picking between the attacking options is tough. The biggest question we must ask ourselves is whether Gabriel Jesus (£8.0m) being unavailable will affect them attacking wise but since their team xG is similar to last season, I want to assume that not a drastic difference will be seen. Of course, football doesn’t always work that way. 

Surprisingly, Martin Odegaard (£6.4m) has the highest non-penalty xGI of the Arsenal midfielders, followed by Bukayo Saka (£8.0m) and Gabriel Martinelli (£6.8m). I am torn between the three. Saka is the best option, but this means I need to go with Anthony Martial (£6.7m), who I am not fully convinced by. Martinelli is a sensible pick but since I have no value tied up in him anymore, I am considering a sneaky Odegaard punt. I want to assume that against these difficult fixtures, Arsenal will have to find ways to win and his set-piece threat as well as his ability to create might bode well. 

The issue with Odegaard is that if I do go for him, and Martinelli and Saka emerge as the obvious options, I am stuck with him. 

Chelsea

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Chelsea is a tough puzzle to solve. With two solid fixtures followed up by a difficult double, most of us will have Kepa Arrizabalaga (£4.5m) and Reece James (£5.8m) for good reason.

Mason Mount (£7.5m) is also a good option to have. His stats don’t convince me and nor do his performances from this season either but fixtures breed form. He is a flat-track bully with a Double Gameweek coming up, so it is difficult to ignore. 

THE Uniteds

There is no doubt I will go with Marcus Rashford (£6.7m) but I am quite literally 50/50 on Martial versus Callum Wilson (£7.4m). 

Miguel Almiron (£5.8m) is a self-explanatory pick. He’s great value for someone who has similar xGI stats as nearly all the £8.0m midfielder options.

Wilson has made it into my team recently and I’m quite happy with him at the moment. I just value him as a tremendous finisher and one of the best strikers in the league as long as he stays fit. It’s between him and Martial with the news that Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.8m) may be out. 

Here is my team below, but just a day earlier I had Saka and Mitrovic instead of Martinelli and Wilson, so this could change. I am set on all the spots except Odegaard and Wilson. This can easily become Saka/Martinelli/Mount/Zaha and Martial!

Good luck everyone and welcome back to FPL!

Haaland Foden


720 Comments Post a Comment
  1. FantasyFootballMad
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Kepa or pope for next 3 games?

    1. F_Ivanovic
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Why for the next 3, are you planning on making a GK transfer? Kepa anyway

      1. FantasyFootballMad
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Fair point but just planning short term for now until the mini break for cup games and some doubles where I might switch a gk up or even look to my new WC depending on how team’s form go after World Cup

    2. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Kepa short term, maybe Pope if long term, but just have ward as a backup and you’ll be fine

  2. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Bottomed help!
    A) Trossard
    B) Martinelli

    1. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I'm going Martinelli, but i don't think you can wrong with either

    2. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      B

  3. Zenith UK
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    G2G?

    Kepa
    Cancelo, Robbo, James, Trips
    Foden, Almiron, Martinelli
    Haaland (c), Kane, Darwin

    Ward, Andreas, White, Mac Allister

    1. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      No KDB or Salah is risky

      1. Zenith UK
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        I had KDB but getting him in kills the rest of the team.

        I could do Cancelo, Robbo & Foden > Walker, Bueno & KDB, leaves 1.1M in the bank, but unsure if I want double City premium.

        Not interested in Salah period. Captain Haaland all season long baby.

  4. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Team should be set now. Guess i no need kane then

    Pope
    Rjames trippier gabriel
    Martinelli kdb rash trossard
    Darwin haaland wilson

    Subs ward andreas shaw perraud

    Gtg?

    1. Shultan
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Good team

  5. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this lot? Asking because the deadline will come too early for us here in the States

    Ederson(Ward)
    James/Trip/Doherty(White/Bueno)
    KDB/Rash/Kulu/Martinelli(Almiron)
    EBH/Darwin/Martial

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Blimey how is the weather?

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Doherty risky imo. Nice team

      2. Disco Stu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Kind of balmy right now. Currently -10C

    2. The White Pele
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      g2g. could also downgrade Almiron and save some money.

  6. The White Pele
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    who is on pens?
    A) Bruno
    B) Martial

    1. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Got to be Bruno

  7. Fred the Red
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this team?

    Kepa Ward
    Trip James Shaw White Bueno
    KDB Rashford Odegaard Bailey Andreas
    Haaland Kane Darwin

  8. Shultan
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Should I do white to Shaw?
    Apart from GW17 can't see my self playing white until GW21 if they have double whilst Shaw can play in GW17 & GW19

  9. Tabbara
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Shaw or dunk ?
    thx

  10. FantasyFootballMad
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    noticed spurs have Monday, Sunday, Wednesday next 3. Probably the best amount of time between games than any top side. Is kane a must?

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      For me he is.

      Bet he's hungrier than ever after the WC

    2. RICICLE
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Yep, and I reckon Kane will be eager to put a few ASAP to ease those WC cobwebs.

      1. FantasyFootballMad
        • 7 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        This is my fear. But I don’t see how I get him without losing one of salah or KDB and right now with ownership what it is that seems risky

        1. RICICLE
          • 1 Year
          1 year, 5 months ago

          Yeah it is a conundrum alright, for me it’s easy, lose Salah. I am firmly in the KDB camp, I see no reason for Salah at that price when Darwin is there and guaranteed to play getting chances galore for almost 4m cheaper.

  11. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Felix Navidad everyone…

    How’s this looking please:

    Kepa
    Cancelo Trippier James
    Salah Rashford Martinelli Almiron
    Haaland Darwin Martial

    Ward Andreas White Bueno

    2.0itb

    Would you make any changes here?

    Thanks

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Looks very nice especially with that much itb and all fair play

  12. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Okay I think we’re pretty much finalised what do we reckon? x

    Ederson // Ward
    James Trippier Shaw // White Bueno
    KDB Kulusevski Trossard Rashford // Andreas
    Haaland Darwin Wilson

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Nice

  13. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Rashford and bruno too much? Cheers

    1. The White Pele
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      no

    2. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Not if United pump in a few goals, it's not

      1. FCHaalandaise
        • 1 Year
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Can see them getting 4

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Cheers both

    4. RICICLE
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      For me yes, just Rashford is needed I reckon

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Thanks

    5. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Nope

    6. FantasyFootballMad
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Is eriksen not even worth considering as the cheaper alt to rashford?

  14. Casual Player
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Ok done my moves, think I’ve probably completed FPL with them, now to sit back and enjoy Boxing Day.

    All the best to everyone, and good luck

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      FPL? Completed it already mate

  15. FantasyFootballMad
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Kepa
    Trip, saliba, Cancelo
    Martinelli, KDB, Salah, Eriksen, Almiron
    Haaland, Mitro

    Subs: ward, Patterson, solanke, bueno
    0.0ITB

    Desperately trying to fit in 3 top premiums. Is eriksen differential for 0.3 less than rashford to do the above team worth the punt?

    1. FantasyFootballMad
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      This is my alternative, is it insane?

      Kepa
      Trips, saliba, Cancelo
      Martinelli, KDB, eriksen, almiron
      Haaland, Darwin, kane

      Subs: ward, patterson, Andreas, bueno

      Basically swapping salah & mitro for kane and Darwin…

    2. Norco
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      No for Eriksen, very punty. Rashford better option imo

  16. cm790
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Who’s taking a punt on Bruno?

    1. PogChamp
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Thought about it but not at 9.8m.

    2. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      I am, people are flocking for Rashford and martial but are ignoring the creative hub on most set plays?

  17. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Probably far too template but with overall rank at 25 K probably no need to differentiate for now. With .6 m in bank any change you would be considering. Salah over KDB gut choice.

    Kepa
    James Trippier Cancelo
    Salah Saka Rashford Almiron
    Haaland (c) Darwin Martial

    Ward White Andreas Patterson

    1. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      All fine, great team value

  18. KitchenSink
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Are player prices going to change tonight, or will they change after the deadline has passed?

    1. FantasyFootballMad
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      After deadline

      1. KitchenSink
        • 2 Years
        1 year, 5 months ago

        Cheers bud

  19. The Pep Revolution
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Can I please get thoughts on this team? Good to go?

    Kepa Ward
    Cancelo Trippier Gabriel Bueno Patterson
    KDB Rashford Martinelli Kulu Almiron
    Haaland Nunez Mitrovic

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Will downgrade Martinelli or Rashford and get Janes

  20. Eleven Hag
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Howz this eh?

    Ward (Iversen)

    James Tripps White (Patterson Bueno)
    KDB Salah Saka Almeron (Andreas)
    Haaland Martial Wilson

  21. whitearselane
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Hi
    A James and Shaw

    B Cancelo and Bueno

    Thoughts please

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      A

  22. FPL Emu
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    My god, Mount's fixtures the next 4 GWs are absolutely fantastic. Why isn't he in any teams on here?

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Coz they're crap

      1. FCHaalandaise
        • 1 Year
        1 year, 5 months ago

        And he barely finishes matches and hasn't done anything in weeks

    2. RICICLE
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Because it’s Mount 🙂

    3. SpaceCadet
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Went havertz instead

    4. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Sterling…is currently in mine!

  23. whitearselane
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Sorry should be

    A cancelo and Bueno

    B James and Walker

    Thoughts please

    1. Shultan
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      B

    2. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      B

  24. Corona is not good 4 U
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Why is there no love for Kane (he is the second highest scorrer in this game so far - after Haaland)

    Thanks!

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Darwin Kane Haaland here

    2. Shultan
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Because most have haaland & one of KDB or Salah so hard to fit Kane without making other sacrifices

    3. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Other options at the price, with better fixtures.
      Not a bad option at all, but caveats with the rest of the team, quite a few not back from the World Cup yet.

  25. asquishypotato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    I’ve got Sterling and Fernandes in my final draft. Both have delightful fixtures, and Chelsea have a decent run, but Ive not seen Sterling once,

    Assume he starts?

    Bruno is over Rashford as I’ve got Martial and fancy the money being spent.

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Far too pricey imo

    2. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Burned by sterling before and never going there again

    3. FCRS1991
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Chelsea is too turbulent atm

  26. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Foden or cancelo? Cheers

  27. I Member
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Good to go?

    Arrizabalaga
    Cancelo, Trippier, James
    KDB, Kulusevski, Martinelli, Rashford
    Haaland, Darwin, Martial

    Ward; Andreas, White, Patterson.

  28. FCRS1991
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Any concerns on tripling up on Newcastle?

    Have Pope Trippier and Almiron.

    Team
    Pope Ward
    Walker Trippier Shaw White Neco
    KDB Martinelli Rashford Almiron Andreas
    Haaland Kane Darwin
    0.3 ITB

    1. Corona is not good 4 U
      • 3 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      We have almost the same team (see below).

    2. FPL Emu
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Double defence too much imo

  29. Corona is not good 4 U
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Is this team okay?

    Ward, Kepa
    Trippier, James, White, Walker, Patterson
    De Bruyne, Rashford, Martinelli, Almiron, Andreas
    Haaland, Kane, Darwin

    Thanks!

    1. FCRS1991
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Pretty much same team. I'm just not sure whether to keep Pope or not. Kepa is a bit of a risk IMO.

  30. FPL Emu
    • 13 Years
    1 year, 5 months ago

    Dropping Kane gives me much more doublers, allowing Cancelo, Mitrovic and Mount (over Castagne, Almiron and Kane).

    Worth it?

    1. RICICLE
      • 1 Year
      1 year, 5 months ago

      Prefer Castagna Almiron & Kane, not like Mount is gonna do much, and doubt Mitro will either to begin with.