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‘Relegator’ van Aanholt benched for Cardiff’s crucial survival test

Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) has been named on the bench for Crystal Palace ahead of their trip to Cardiff City.

The left-back has earned a reputation for relegating teams from the Premier League in recent years but will have to come on as substitute if he wishes to do the same today.

This is not the first time that van Aanholt has been left out of the starting XI in recent weeks, with Joel Ward (£4.3m) coming in for him against Arsenal in Gameweek 35.

He has been named at left-back today, alongside Scott Dann (£4.4m), Martin Kelly (£3.9m) and Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£4.6m).

In more advanced positions, Roy Hodgson has opted for an overload of attacking players.

Even without Christian Benteke (£6.3m) in the side, there are still three forwards taking to the field.

Wilfried Zaha (£6.9m), Jordan Ayew (£5.7m) and Michy Batshuayi (£6.2m) are all in the side, with the latter two playing up front as a strike-pairing.

The Fantasy interest in Cardiff continues to be low, with Neil Etheridge (£4.6m) their only asset with more than 5% ownership.

Of particular note is the fact that FPL midfielder Danny Ward (£4.3m) makes his first start up front of 2019.

Bobby Reid (£5.2m) and Josh Murphy (£4.8m) also come into the side for Cardiff.

Cardiff City XI: Etheridge; Bennett, Ecuele Manga, Morrison, Peltier; Gunnarsson, Camarasa; Murphy, Reid, Mendez-Laing; Ward.

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita; Ward, Dann, Kelly, Wan-Bissaka; Zaha, Milivojevic, McArthur, Townsend; Ayew, Batshuayi.

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  1. Alnair
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Just to be crystal clear - Klopp's response of "we will see" was in response to whether Firmino would START against Newcastle.

    To not even be in the match day squad says he isn't even fit enough for 10-20 minutes so obviously Klopp knew he wouldn't be fit enough to start in his presser.

    Managers generally are transparent about the FITNESS of their players, clearly ruling out players who are not expected in the match day squad. Managers tend to be vague about ROTATION and their specific line-ups.

    Couple this Firmino situation with what Klopp pulled with TAA after the Brighton game and, for me, Klopp is no longer a manager whose words can be trusted. Personally, I'll not be transferring in any players playing under him until the last 10 minutes before the deadline. He caused a ****storm by lying about the TAA news and once again he has lied.

    This is coming from a Liverpool supporter - do not heed and your own peril.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Just to be clear - He doesn’t have to tell people anything he doesn’t want too. Get a grip

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        *to

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        He never said he did.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 1 hour ago

          And the point of the post is then?

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 1 hour ago

            That WE as FPL managers shouldn’t trust Klopp. Not that Klopp was obligated to tell us the truth.

            1. Alnair
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 56 mins ago

              Don't waste your breathe, most of this site is full of morons.

              Can't wait for them to get burnt by Klopp next season and come crying.

              1. Longlatini
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 55 mins ago

                🙂

              2. Wild Rover
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 52 mins ago

                Breathe? Most of this site? Quality

              3. Cok3y5murf
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 52 mins ago

                True. Just doing my part to try and change that 😉

                1. Wild Rover
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 48 mins ago

                  Try leaving if you want to do your bit

                  1. Alnair
                    • 7 Years
                    5 years, 42 mins ago

                    Try getting a life instead of attacking a user who makes more sense than you?

      3. Alnair
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        He doesn't have to answer any of the questions.

        But if he does he should at least have the decency to not lie. Most managers are at most vague.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 1 hour ago

          He hasn’t lied, he didn’t say he was fit

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 53 mins ago

            Saying "We will see" when Firmino wasn't even fit enough to be on the bench is lying. Unless he's fit, and he left him out due to a rift between them or something, of course.

            1. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 49 mins ago

              Bull crap. We will see in this context means wait and see

              1. Alnair
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 43 mins ago

                Except even David and Neale thought it meant he'd at least be fit enough for the bench, go watch the Team News FFS video.

                Funny how everyone except you interprets it this way 🙂

                1. Wild Rover
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 33 mins ago

                  Everyone except me? Have you even read all the other comments?

        2. Marvin Moon
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 1 hour ago

          You seem to be quite unclear on what lying means.

    2. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Cry me a river.

    3. Forza Papac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      u ok hun? x

    4. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      How has what he said about firminio negatively impacted you?

    5. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Getting Firmino when you have TAA, Robbo, Van Dijk, Mané and Salah available in this team is a huge mistake anyway lmao.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        Firmino, Mane, and Salah were all in similar form before his injury.

      2. Alnair
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        Someone clearly wasn't looking and Liverpool's underlying stats before GW35.

    6. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      So Klopp is on here. Username is Auboomerang 😆

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 59 mins ago

        Does he still post?

        1. My heart goes Salalalalah
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 57 mins ago

          Seems like he only does it in pressers now. Haven't seen him here since the tragedy

    7. Distinctly Average
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      I’ve never understood this logic.

      If I was a manager I’d also be deliberately vague about team selections. Why would he want to give unnecessary information to his rivals?

      We have to realise that this FPL mindset comes very much secondary to the actual game of football they’re all playing

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 54 mins ago

        No, fpl is 100% important, the league itself is second to fpl

        1. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 53 mins ago

          If FPL is 100% important find yourself a hobby.

          1. SEXY SON
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 51 mins ago

            Woosh

        2. Distinctly Average
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 45 mins ago

          XD

    8. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 56 mins ago

      I have Firmino and have been badly burned as a result. Nevertheless, it's not Klopp's job to help me manage my FPL team, and as pissed off as I am at the Firmino no-show I have no one to blame but myself.

      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 54 mins ago

        Nice to see logic and balance. I have Firmino too but I am not all surprised.

      2. Distinctly Average
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 47 mins ago

        Precisely. My point exactly

    9. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 55 mins ago

      Klopp answered the question.
      You have implied that he isn't fit for 10 or 20 minutes based on your judgement which does not have knowledge from inside the club.
      You whole post is based on implication as opposed to fact.

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 53 mins ago

        *Your :p

        1. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 48 mins ago

          The typo of course is far more important than the point I am making.

          1. SEXY SON
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 40 mins ago

            Sorry couldn't resist lol

    10. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 52 mins ago

      I had Firmino before Car, Hudd but sold him after all the ambiguity. You can’t expect a a manger to say yes or no to a player starting/on bench or anything.

      Who is to say he did not aggravate something late in training on Friday or Sat?

      1. Alnair
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 39 mins ago

        I didn't say he wasn't trustworthy after the TAA.

        My point is that Klopp's now building up a history for lying and we should be aware of this.

        1. Old Bull
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 26 mins ago

          He really didn’t lie

    11. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 48 mins ago

      It's despicable, surely he plays fpl himself and understands that press conferences are there for us to aid our teams selections?

      Maybe he did it on purpose because he wants Sturridge as a differential in his ML chase?

  2. DeathoftheParty
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Anyone do better than 2 from 3...

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      That’s honestly ok - other than Doherty everyone with decent ownership has blanked. You’ve got more players to come than average.

  3. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    City TC versus a chilled out Brighton side ready for the beach, very good

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Only if title race goes to last gw.
      Need Leicester & Newcastle to surrender 😉

    2. Vlad Tepes
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      I regret I used it this GW but guess they can score alot at home vs Leicster

  4. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Hoilett missed a sitter

  5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    The toilet puts it over

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Quality 5yo humour

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      😀

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        I rest my case 😉

  6. andrewe63
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Barcelona throwing the game against Celta Vigo tonight?

    1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Why would they?

      1. andrewe63
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        3rd string side/bench out there.

        1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 59 mins ago

          Oh I see. They don't need to though do they

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 56 mins ago

      League already wrapped up right ??

      1. andrewe63
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 53 mins ago

        Just contrasting Premiership if the fourth from bottom were given an easy ride into survival. What would the bottom 3 managers be thinking?

  7. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Bilva or Sane for next week?

    1. Vlad Tepes
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Depends on what the result is on monday but sane is more explosive

      1. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        True. Its still too early to decide.

    2. Vlad Tepes
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Yeah but if they still have to play for it vs Brighton I would go for Sane, more explosive and a bigger differential

      1. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 59 mins ago

        And if they don't hes pretty much assured some gametime . Freeflowing mcy playing for fun.

        1. Vlad Tepes
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 50 mins ago

          Hehe ye I guess hard to tell

  8. Vlad Tepes
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    In a dilemma with Son RC and I will wait with my transfers until next week when we know more. But what would you do? 0.1 ITB 2FT

    A) Son+Doherty - > Pogba+ Shaw
    B) Son+Jota/Jimenez->Hazard+fodder

    I will have to start one of Jimenez and Jota anyways, but with B I have to start Doherty against pool (Other defenders are Dunk and Duffy)

    Cheers

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      A. Looks good.
      Let's see how mtd perform this week.

    2. Distinctly Average
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 58 mins ago

      Check pogba stats without penalties

      1. Vlad Tepes
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 47 mins ago

        I have not checked but I assume it is really bad. Still tempted to get assured united assets as they play a regulated cardiff

  9. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Disappointed not to get anything from mili today. Why aren't Cardiff scything down these strikers!

  10. TheDragon
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    West Ham keeper misjudged that slightly - lol

  11. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Redmond or Townsend for next week?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 hour ago

      Redmond

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 hour ago

        Prob right to stick to the plan. Sounds like he was unlucky not to score today.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 58 mins ago

          Yeah

  12. Yank Revolution
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    CARDIFFFF!!!

  13. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Good goal for Cardiff, fair play.

  14. SEXY SON
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    I really have had a mare with Guaita & Peltier

  15. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Any news why Gunn didnt Start today?

    1. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 59 mins ago

      Shop Window for Forster?

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 59 mins ago

      Farewell time for Forster

  16. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 hour ago

    Liverpool lineup? Is not amongst the stickies

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 55 mins ago

      Anyone? Or I should aim for the sticky

    2. STEP rOVERS
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 35 mins ago

      Skysports.com

  17. Amey
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 59 mins ago

    How much time to go ??
    Zaha keeping 2 bps would be great

  18. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 59 mins ago

    YESS!! well done lads.

  19. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 59 mins ago

    6 from 4 after having son TC doesnt feel so bad now lol

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 58 mins ago

      Ouch!

    2. Longlatini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 53 mins ago

      Harsh luck

    3. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 47 mins ago

      You had Mané last week, yet you captained TAA.

      Son got 2 points that week against a bad West Ham side.

      What on earth made you decide to spurn triple capping one of the highest scoring mids, at home and playing for a free scoring team against one of the worst sides ever to disgrace the Premier League?

      And TC an out of form mid playing for a team that has lost their way since losing Kane?

      I genuinely cannot understand the reasoning behind this.

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 38 mins ago

        The game itself lacks logic with it's results, so kind of understand these ballsy punts

        1. SEXY SON
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 37 mins ago

          Sometimes even

  20. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 59 mins ago

    Unlucky Cardiff.

  21. Marvin Moon
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 58 mins ago

    Good riddance once again to Colin.

  22. Distinctly Average
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 57 mins ago

    Valiant performance from Cardiff, despite the loss

    1. Unfathomable Ruination
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 56 mins ago

      Agreed - Bobby Reid looked the best player out there ... that goal proved it ... Mendez-Laing was working hard too, they all were.

      1. Distinctly Average
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 43 mins ago

        Yep, great to see the fans getting behind the players and manager after the game. Nobody likes to see a team get relegated

  23. Unfathomable Ruination
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 57 mins ago

    Gotta feel for Cardiff ...

  24. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 56 mins ago

    unpopular opinion: but Raffa the Faffa will dent Jurgen Flopps title bid and hand city the title

    1. Bruno Bruno!!
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 56 mins ago

      *Gaffa

      1. Longlatini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 53 mins ago

        Prefer Faffa!

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 55 mins ago

      Lower case this time 😉

      1. Bruno Bruno!!
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 54 mins ago

        makes a difference 🙂

    3. Manani
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 53 mins ago

      nah, I'd say Leicester have better chance on winning/drawing than newcastle.

  25. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 54 mins ago

    Good football fact. Ryan fredericks is the first defender to get a perfect 10 whoscored rating since October 2009 (Thomas vermaelen vs Blackburn)
    That is my right back x

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 53 mins ago

      😮

  26. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 52 mins ago

    I appreciate this will divide opinion but as a neutral (neither a Liverpool or City fan), I really want Liverpool to win the league and therefore beat Newcastle. I like the way Liverpool play, I like Klopp and I think it would good for the PL for another team (other than City) to win the league.

    1. Bruno Bruno!!
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 51 mins ago

      we cant have liverpool winning the league im sorry, i will do eveything in my power to make sure they never win the league

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 50 mins ago

        Excellent. You carry on with that and don’t forget to take your meds before you go to bed.

      2. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 46 mins ago

        Sorry too, but that's pathetic. They've been brilliant this season and if they lose it will be just unfortunate because City have been even better. I hope that Pool win it because of your comment.

    2. Andy'81
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 48 mins ago

      Not very neutral of you to actually pick a side, Switzerland would hang it's head in shame.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 46 mins ago

        🙂 I’m a Saints fan and bearing in mind Liverpool have literally nabbed most of our best players over the last few years I think I’m being very neutral with my view

  27. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 52 mins ago

    Salah hatty and Mane blank would save my season

    1. Burger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 51 mins ago

      What does a mane hattie and Salah blank do?

  28. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 49 mins ago

    if RAFFA THE GAFFA does my man city a favour a tonight I will quit FPL for the rest of the season

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 45 mins ago

      Yawn

  29. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 48 mins ago

    Anyone up to 20 points yet?

    1. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 46 mins ago

      Doubt it. Unless Kelly given bonus

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 41 mins ago

      Got that and more from 2 of my defenders.

  30. Old Bull
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 36 mins ago

    Well that’s it. Before today I was 10pts off the lead in one league & 11 pats in the other. Today a shambolic 9pts from 5 players with Doherty on the bench. I blew it. Season over barring a miracle.