Pro Pundits

How formation changes got the best out of Salah and De Bruyne in Gameweek 17

One of the world’s best FPL managers, Tom Freeman, takes a closer look at advanced central roles for Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Salah in his latest Pro Pundits piece.


There are many ways to play Fantasy Premier League.

Some managers will be more aggressive in their approach, whilst others play a more patient game.

On Saturday, as Liverpool’s line-up leaked on social media ten minutes before the Gameweek 17 deadline, I saw an opportunity to make a gain.

The midfield was likely to be a two-man unit, with Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) starting alongside Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m), in an expected 4-2-3-1. 

Mohamed Salah’s (£12.2m) best goalscoring form has come when leading the line in a 4-2-3-1, with Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) positioned in the pocket just behind, and this trend continued against Watford, with the Egyptian not only scoring twice but also causing the Hornets defence problems all afternoon.

No player attempted more shots in the box than Salah’s seven this week.

The 2-0 win over Watford means Liverpool have scored two or more goals in 24 of their last 26 league outings. The 1-1 draw at Old Trafford and the 1-0 win at Sheffield United are the only games in which they failed to do that.

A Salah and Sadio Mané (12.2) attacking double-up, from Gameweek 19, is something I’m thinking about.

On Sunday, it was Pep Guardiola’s turn to shake things up. His favoured 4-3-3 surprisingly made way for a 4-2-3-1 (sounds familiar right?!), with two holding midfielders and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.3m) as a no. 10.

Unshackled, De Bruyne was on another level, and the most advanced Manchester City player:

De Bruyne’s 19-point haul, combined with Salah’s brace and a Sheffield United defensive double-up, contributed towards my Gameweek 17 score of 80 points, which has seen my overall rank rise to 50,107.

As I plan to activate my Wildcard soon, my next moves are essentially one or two-week punts, with Jack Grealish (£6.2m) and Adama Traoré (£5.2m) both under consideration.

Whilst there is a bit of worry amongst Aston Villa fans right now after several below-par team performances, Grealish still interests me, and I do think if Villa are going to score, he will be involved.

A slightly cheaper option is Traoré, who’s been playing on the right of Wolverhampton Wanderers’ front three in recent weeks. He’s a player who looks almost impossible to stop when he gets going and is also a bit of a differential, owned by only 5.4% of squads. 

Despite this, it’s worth noting that while an away trip to Norwich City sounds like a fixture to target, only Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City have given up fewer big chances than the Canaries over the last five Gameweeks. That suggests it’ll be a tighter game than many think.

Going forward, I’m also keeping Michael Antonio (£6.9m) in mind. Against Southampton, Antonio and Sébastien Haller (£7.0m) made their debut as a strike duo, in a 4-4-2, and thrived. The 1-0 scoreline could have been even better for West Ham United, had Antonio’s goal in the second half stood. It was the second time he’s seen a goal disallowed for handball in three weeks, having also had one ruled out at Chelsea.

Now, the Hammers have a nice break to refine the system before their next match at Crystal Palace in Gameweek 19.

So, here is how I’m currently set up ahead of Gameweek 18, with one free transfer and £1.3m in the bank. 

Grealish, Traoré, Richarlison (£7.9m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) are all on the Watchlist, with one or two likely to come in ahead of Saturday’s deadline.

Re captaincy, I’m currently on De Bruyne, but Grealish is another candidate having returned 25 points over his last three games at Villa Park.

I currently have the vice captaincy on Dele Alli (£8.7m) but that will likely be removed. 

Alli does have more goals against Chelsea than any other club but I do have concerns about Spurs and their ability to control games with their current midfield options. I’m just not sure they’ll get the balance right when selecting two of Eric Dier (£4.9m), Moussa Sissoko (£4.9m), Harry Winks (£5.2m) or Tanguy Ndombele (£5.8m), but captaincy decisions will likely go right to the wire.

Thanks for reading… until next time.


Tom Freeman – aka avfc82 – comes onto the team to make most of us feel wildly insecure about our overall rank history. A long-time Fantasy Football Scout user, he has finished inside the top 1,000 a staggering five times since 2009.

1,206 Comments Post a Comment
  1. AbsolutelyNoIdea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Play Heaton or Pope this week

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Why have Heaton if you don't play him vs Sou at home.

  2. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    On WC ( as below) - best one week punt pre transfer to Salah/Mané

    A Richarlison
    B Sterling

    And best defender between

    1 Targett
    2 Söyüncü ( in current team but no great value loss if want back- and may choose Evans anyway)

    Guaita
    Aurier Lundstram Targett*
    KDB Son Sterling/Richarlison * Alli Grealish
    Vardy Rashford

    Button Kelly Rico Greenwood

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      1B

    2. Rhodes your boat
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I spent all week deciding between A and B, went rich in the end to spread the risk owning kdb also and covering the game with that terrible arsenal defence!

  3. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How is this all?

    Pope
    Targett Lundstram Soyuncu
    Son KDB Martial Pulisic
    Vardy Rashford Kane

    Button Cantwell Tomori Hanley

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Very nice except Pulisic.
      Hopefully he turns it round for you.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Southampton so hoping he can get a big haul there, his stats are still good. I've got 1m ITB to so can go Tomori and Hanley to Aurier and Rico

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pulisic only concern otherwise very good

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Would you rather Maddison?

        1. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Rather Grealish or Richarlison

          1. Dynamic Duos
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Pulisic to Richarlison after the Southampton game then maybe

            1. The 12th Man
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              That sounds good.
              How do you feel about Lucas Moura?

              1. Dynamic Duos
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                If I thought he was nailed then he would be a great option.

            2. The 12th Man
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              I like the idea of waiting for Richarlison. See if he gets his 5th booking this week.

              1. Dynamic Duos
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Also see if Ancelotti comes in.

              2. FPL_Crisis
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Think I’m gonna grab Rich this week on wildcard, rather not use transfer to bring him in
                Do yellow cards get wiped come 1st January?

                1. The 12th Man
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Think that’s the date.
                  They don’t get wiped. The threshold increases from 5 cards to 10 , hence postponing any ban.
                  The ban increases to two games at 10.

                2. The 12th Man
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  As long as you have a viable starter on the bench I wouldn’t worry about the one game ban.

  4. mdm
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who to play:

    A. Kelly (new)
    B. Aurier (CHE)

    Thanks!

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. Hubert
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

  5. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    This article has made me rethink my plans of going Mane + Pulisic >> Son + Martial

    Been debating it entire week and comes down to
    A: Son + Martial or
    B: Sterling + Grealish

    Bear in mind
    - I will WC gw20 so only looking at 2 week horizon
    - I already have Kdb , Alli and Rashford

    Suggestions?

    1. MGD
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I would go A out of those

    2. zotter
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I would still go A.

  6. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    These articles (not Pro Pundit in particular, but this writer) are among the best on the site. Great work! Really the kind of writers FFS need to keep on the pay roll in an increasingly competitive world of FPL content.

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Anything you say is incorrect.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why are people upvoting this? No adults about?

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Some people get so butthurt about being trolled that they cant let it go. There are literally accounts on here (that I dont understand why arent banned after multiple reports) whose posts are 90% negative comments about me.

          1. FPL Blow-In
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Probably the same person too 😆

    2. Jafoole_88
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Jack Ma

    3. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I agree. It is always intersting to hear new perspectives, and this is what Tom bring to the table every time.

  7. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Hows this team?

    Guaita
    Pieters, lundstram, aurier
    Grealish, kdb, son, dendoncker
    Greenwood, rashford, vardy

    Bench, Stekelenburg, cathcart, taa, salah

  8. manu4life99
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Why are people considering spending £24m on both Mane and Salah when there are players like Son, Alli, Maddison etc with better fix from gw20

    1. XabiAlonso
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Better fixtures? If you are the best team then every fixture is blue

  9. jake0910
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Tammy out for Rashford worth a -4 this week?

    1. Ci Siamo
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not usually but I think it is this specific week because so many will captain him.

    2. Jafoole_88
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, but I'd only make this move for a hit

  10. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Jack Grealish is awfully tempting for the (C). This is the week for a punt after all.

    1. Where dahoud at
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Lol iv done it

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It’s the week of the differential captain. Do it!

  11. EL tridente
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Henderson (Button)
    Soyuncu, Lundstram, Guilbert (Robbo, Diop)
    Son, Maddison, McGinn, Shelvey (Salah)
    Vardy, Rashford, Tammy

    What to do with this squad? Only got 1 free transfer
    A) Diop to Kelly
    B) Diop to Fernandez
    C) Salah to KDB
    D) Maddison to Richarlison
    E) Robbo to Maguire

    1. zotter
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Robbo to Targett?

  12. boroie
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mount to...

    A - Richarlison
    B - Alli
    C - Lucas Moura
    D - Zaha
    E - Grealish
    F - Other
    G - Keep

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It’s between A B and C for me.
      Just looking into Moura now.

      Is he nailed?

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      E

      1. lordkippe
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        El Ghazi

    3. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      E also

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Does Traore free up funds in an interesting way for you? If not I’d be really tempted by Rich - slight gamble on new manager but he’s on a run of form and likely oop with decent fixtures especially this week

  13. SEXY SON
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Salah to Son/Sterling for a -4
    or
    play 2 of Soyuncu/Mount/Greenwood

    I can buy Salah back for free next week.

    Thanks

  14. Alli
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A) Robbo, Pulisic > Dunk, Grealish
    B) Robbo, Pulisic > Targett, Richarlison

    Ryan
    Robbo - Aurier - Söyüncü
    Mané(vc) - Son - KDB - Pulisic
    Vardy(c) - Tammy - Ings

    Button - Lundstram - Cantwell - Rico

    1. Alli
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Wrong team...

      Ryan - Button
      Robbo - Aurier - Söyüncü - Lundstram - Kelly
      Mané - Son - KDB - Pulisic - Cantwell
      Vardy - Tammy - Ings

      1. ow00019
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Are you avoiding mentioning Dele on purpose?

  15. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Hi people, please gave me some advice, would you change anything in this team?

    Guaita
    Pieters, lundstram, aurier
    Grealish, kdb, son, dendoncker
    Greenwood, rashford, vardy

    Bench, Stekelenburg, cathcart, taa, salah

  16. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who is a better pick?

    A) Dunk at 4.7m

    B) Montoya at 4.5m

    1. TLF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I like B, he should become a regular again now and really nice numbers last GW. Top amongst defenders for pen box touches with 8 and 2 shots in the box. Had him all season and almost certainly keeping on WC.

      1. Ci Siamo
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Why wasn't he a regular ?

        1. TLF
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Potter experimented with Alzate....it didn't go well.

  17. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Gtg

    Guaita
    Pieters, lundstram, aurier
    Grealish(c), kdb, son, dendoncker
    Greenwood, rashford (vc), vardy

    Bench, Stekelenburg, cathcart, taa, salah

    1. Cahill17
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looking good!

  18. MGD
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Bench 1:

    A) Rico (BUR)
    B) Montoya (SHE)
    C) Pereira (mci)
    D) Cantwell (WOL)
    E) Kelly (new)

    Though one..

    1. Cahill17
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C for me

    2. zotter
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C

    3. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If you want to bench Perreira, sell him for Soyuncu and reinvest the funds.
      No point having a premium asset you don't trust to play every week.

  19. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Son or Kane (c)?

    1. Cahill17
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son but could go with either

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son matey

  20. Cahill17
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    g2g?

    Ryan
    Kelly, Lundstram, Rico
    Trossard, KDB, Son, Pulsic
    Connolly, Rashford, Vardy

    Bench, McGovern, Soy, TAA, Mane

    Thinking about Trossard or Pulisic for Grealish for a hit.

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looks good. The puli > Grealish hit could work too

      1. Cahill17
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks mate!

  21. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Alli to rise tonight? Got 0.1 wriggle on Maddy >> Alli, should I wait for the pressers or pull the trigger? Thanks!

    Pope
    Lundy • Aurier • Rico
    Son(C) • KDB • Maddy • Grealish
    Vardy • Tammy • Greeny
    (McGov. Soy. Mané. TAA)

    1. Cahill17
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      You have the team I want to get too. Well done. as far I know there is no concern on Ali, so pulling the trigger early should not be an issue but I would be more likely to wait to be honest.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I do like catching a price rise though 🙂

    2. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Do you have a good reason for delaying at this point?

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        If the pressers say someone is injured. Anyone could be and I’d need the FT for that

        1. ow00019
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          As someone who does this on a regular basis, once you've navigated the major stumbling blocks (the games) it's fine. Punish is rare.

  22. ZTF
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Targett or Rico for the next few?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Targett

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Targett

    3. ZTF
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks.

  23. boroie
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Gazzaniga
    Aurier - Rico - Lundstram
    Martial - KDB - Cantwell - Mount
    Rashford - Vardy - Abraham

    Button - Soy - Zouma - Mane

    What should I do with this?

    I have just enough in the bank to do Mount to Alli? But won’t if Alli goes up tonight.

    should I do it or is there anything else more pressing?

    1. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Think it's a good move.

  24. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    My captaincy has literally been on 5 different players this week.

    Currently on De Bruyne.

    1. DAZZ
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same. Had it on Spurs midfielders, but contemplating Grealish now.

      1. CRO KLOPP
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Jack for me too

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I don't mind Grealish. Except for the fact Southampton don't concede a boatload of goals.

          Since the Leicester demolishing, they've only conceded 2 goals max per game including vs City.

    2. TLF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm on Alli currently. Think he'll want to reward Mou for helping his revival, Mou will want to get one over on Chelsea and Alli already has a good record against them. Chelsea shipping goals on the road too. All that said I may still go for someone else too haha, surprising number of options this week, particularly with an active WC. Yours finished yet ?

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Done. Still a little undecided on Otamendi + Cantwell vs Maguire + Dendoncker.

        But leaning more towards Ota + Cantwell each day.

        I don't like Alli because I still don't think Mourinho has found his ideal midfield yet. And Spurs will be bossed around in terms of possession.

        1. TLF
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I like Ota it's just booking a defensive transfer sooner rather than later bothers me a little. You aren't the first person I've seen say that about Alli and Spurs this week. I'll have a rethink but can't help liking him as a pick.

        2. TLF
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Good luck btw.

  25. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Dunk and Targett, sell Kelly on wildcard if I own Guaita?

  26. rjcv177
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Tomori to
    A) kelly
    B) targett
    C) ota

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C

      1. zotter
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        How nailed is he ?

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Well stones is injured again so it looks promising for Ota.

  27. MGD
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    What do you think of this?

    A) Rico (BUR) -> Bench against Arsenal and play Cantwell (avl)
    or
    B) Targett (SOU) -> Start against (NOR) and BENCH Cantwell (avl)

    ?

    1. zotter
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

  28. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this?

    A) Play Connolly (SHU) as it seems he’s fit and back in training.

    B) -4 for Mane to Sterling as I was going to do Mane to Salah for GW 20 anyway.

    Cheers all.

    1. zotter
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If you don’t do B do you have to play connelly? Who else on bench

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Soyuncu.... Would rather play Connolly over him.

    2. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If you go B, you got easy way to get Salah?

  29. TierryHenry
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    If you had to choose
    For the main team between
    Kelly and Sais
    Who would you choose?

    1. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Kelly to start

      1. TierryHenry
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks

  30. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Salah out for:

    A. Sterling
    B. Martial
    C. Grealish
    D. Moura
    E. Richarlison
    F. Someone else

    Have Son, KDB, Alli and Maddison

    1. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Why sell?