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Should Fantasy managers ever ‘triple up’ on a team?

The 2014/15 FPL champion, Simon March, asks if owning three players from the same Premier League club is advisable.


Fantasy Premier League has seen plenty of iconic duos: Carroll and Barton, Drogba and Lampard, Vardy and Mahrez, the list goes on. These are players who, while playing in the same team, both managed to score substantial points and frequently combined to score those points by assisting each other’s goals. If you had both in your FPL team at their peak, chances are you were doing well. Everyone loves a good double-up.

But what about triple-ups? They’re popular, too, but is it really a good idea to select three players from the same team? That’s the question I’ll be discussing this week.

Among the few firm rules that I rigidly observe in FPL is this: ‘Never triple up on a team who are likely to finish mid-table or below’. I learned this lesson in the 2015/16 season when my title defence was upended early on by my now-curious decision to Wildcard in three Swansea players (though, in my defence, this was a popular move at the time) just before they went from surprise early-season title candidates to winning just two games in their next 17. In my opinion, mid-to-lower table teams will rarely, if ever, sustain the form required to justify owning three (non-bench fodder) players or, indeed, they would not be mid-to-lower table teams.

While I’m unlikely to be talked out of this position personally, the question of whether tripling-up on any team is a good idea is more controversial.

On one hand, you have the philosophy that, if a team tends to score more goals than anybody else, and/or keeps more clean sheets, as per Liverpool or Manchester City in the past few seasons, it’s a good idea to have as many players from that team as possible. There is no doubt that, at times, this is a good move and, those who do time it correctly will no doubt profit as a result. Where such a team has a Double Gameweek, there’s even more reason to believe in the potential of a triple-up.

There are, however, a few problems associated with tripling up with players from the top teams. Firstly, it tends to be expensive. Man City may, for example, score more goals than most teams this season and they might also keep more clean sheets, but to triple up on them could cost 25-30%+ of your overall budget. At that point, the question is no longer just: ‘Will they score me enough points?’ It becomes: ‘Will the rest of my team be good enough to compensate if they don’t?’ There’s usually a good chance that a savvy FPL manager can find similar returns for less if they shop around.

The big exception to all of this is when a team who were expected to be mid-to-lower table end up performing really well throughout the whole season. The most obvious example of this phenomenon is 2015/16 title-winners Leicester from which you could purchase three of the highest-scoring players in the game that season for roughly the price of a McDonald’s Happy Meal. Of course, such teams are most notable by their rarity.

Why else could tripling up be ill-advised? One suggestion lies in the mechanics of how scoring occurs in football generally. A player scoring is always the product of their own ability to score, their team’s ability to provide them with opportunities to score and their opposition’s ability (or inability) to stop them from scoring. However, there is also a temporal aspect to this equation. A match only has 90 minutes (or sometimes 100 minutes if you’re a certain Manchester-based club…) and, thus, your triple-ups are sharing that time between them. They cannot all score points at once even if two combine for a goal and, therefore, their ability to score is naturally limited. This might not be a problem if the team they play for scores loads of goals every match, but history tells us that this is not sustainable over time, even for the very best teams. Players and teams go in and out of form, fixtures become more difficult and, when you triple up, all three of your players are affected by these same conditions.

This issue may be less true of defenders as clean sheet points are attributed equally across a defensive line. However, as a result of this, their point-scoring potential is interdependent, one goal conceded affects them all. Over a long enough period of time, this might not matter in terms of points scored (i.e. Liverpool defenders may keep the most clean sheets in total over a season) but, again, this raises the question of value for money and, particularly, whether the funds tied up in expensive defenders could benefit your team more if invested elsewhere, or by being more liquid.

How Liverpool's defensive assets compare after their FPL price changes

Finally, while some believe that having multiple players from a single team means they are likely to get some points whatever happens, the opposite could actually be true. Because they share many of the same conditions, teammates may be more prone to rotation at the same time (e.g. ahead of a big Champions League match), illness (think Spurs and ‘Lasagna-Gate’), expected or unexpected match cancellations (…sigh), tough fixtures or even just teams losing form, as even the best ones will sometimes do. Tripling up will always compound these kinds of risks.

In conclusion, while I am not personally a big fan of tripling up on players from a single team, I can see that there are instances when it can pay off, if timed correctly. There are also exceptional circumstances where it can be a practically essential, no-brainer, value move (e.g. Leicester 15/16) to have three players from the same team. Tripling up in a Double Gameweek or Blank Gameweek may also be well worthwhile and, finally, some of the limitations that apply to attacking players in a triple-up may not apply as much to defenders, making a defensive double or triple-up arguably more of a viable move. 

However, by virtue of the players all sharing the same conditions and constraints on scoring and the typically high cost of tripling up on the best teams, the practice of tripling up in FPL will almost always be a higher-risk strategy that, as a result, is less likely to pay off over time than a broader and more flexible strategy.

In my eyes triple-ups are a lot like buying an expensive goalkeeper; it makes sense at the time, they’ll probably score you some points, but give it a few weeks and you’ll always start to think whether you could be doing something better with the money.


Simon is a former FPL world champion, claiming the coveted price in 2014/15. But there is more to this man than one season of good fortune. Since 2009, Simon has finished in the top 7k four times, only ending up outside the world’s top 60k once in an 11-campaign career.

2,478 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Stockport Hatter
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hi

  2. Igz08
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    On a FH:

    A) Son + Ziyech

    B) Kane + Jota

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Kane does love a NLD...

      1. JoeSoap
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Seems to always score

    2. JoeSoap
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B close

      1. Igz08
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        I'm worried he might not start 🙁 would really suck for my FH

        1. Igz08
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Plus the way Arsenal set up atm I think suits Son more

          1. JoeSoap
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Mourinho probably playing games. There is always the risk he doesn't start though always seems to score against us. Would imagine Arsenal will defend a lot (if they can). If they play high Son will have a field day. Depends who you prefer long term.

            1. Igz08
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 4 months ago

              It's a Free Hit so doesn't matter long term 🙂

              1. Igz08
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 4 months ago

                Looks like I'm leaning towards Son and just want to be talked into it lol

                1. Wolfman180
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  3 years, 4 months ago

                  A

                  I think Ziyech could do well and I also think Wolves will keep Liverpool quiet this GW

  3. Oooo Matron
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Anything worth a - 4 here?

    McCarthy
    Robertson Chillwell James Lampety
    KDB (C) Fernandes Jota
    Kane DCL Bamford

    Subs: Anguissa, Grealish, Konsa

    1. ash and swanson inc
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I dont think so,not for a hit anyway, looks good

  4. JoeSoap
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Grealish/Son>Jota/KDB (-4) Y/N

    Any alternative suggestions appreciated. 1.7m in bank

    McCarthy
    Zouma, Justin, Chilwell, Lamptey
    Fernandes, Son, Bowen, Mendy
    Kane, DCL
    Steer, Grealish, Jimmy, Mitchell

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I like it

    2. Hulk Smash
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

    3. JoeSoap
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks

    4. Westfield Irons ⭐️
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Can you do Jimmy/Son>KDB/Bamford and bench Grealish?
      Or what do you intend to do with Jimmy next week?

      1. JoeSoap
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Was an option I had put up previously so could do. Likely be Jimmy>Bamford next week. Seems strange bringing him in this week when I have two Chelsea defenders.

  5. TheDragon
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    help!!
    1FT 2.2 ITB

    Martinez*
    Robertson, Chilwell, KWP, Lamptey
    Fernandes, KDB, Son, Bissouma
    Bamford, DCL
    Steer | Mitchell, Greaiah*, Wilson*

    A) Good to go (no keeper)
    B) Steer -> Johnstone
    C) Bissouma -> Jota (means at least -4 next week)
    D) Better idea??

    Will get Salah next week either straight swap for Salah or Son& Robertson out -4.

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      May as well get a keeper in this week?

      1. TheDragon
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        It’s tricky as agree it’s guaranteed + points, but I’ll want Martinez back and upgrading steer means putting an extra 0.5 into keepers.

        Also means only way to get salah without a hit next week is to remove Bruno.

        It’s a tough decision! Feel like upgrading steer to a playing keeper is probably the way to go

    2. Salarrivederci
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Very similar situation. 1FT here and 0.7 ITB

      Playing Vardy, Bowen & Cresswell > DCL, Bissouma and KWP and I got Brewster benched > Wilson

      I am doing Steer -> McCarthy.
      Mostly do to the fact that McCarty is also nice to have next GW and in GW16 when Villa faces Chelsea.

  6. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Pick 1 to play

    Dallas
    Semedo
    Lookman

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I’d go Dallas, keeps going close to a haul.....

    2. JoeSoap
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Probably Dallas

  7. Hulk Smash
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    This week only, who would you rather have?

    A - Salah (WOL)
    B - KDB (FUL)

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B clearly

    2. LewanGOALski
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B defo

  8. Vazza
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    who to captain this week

    A. Bruno
    B. Vardy

    1. JoeSoap
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Bruno more reliable

      1. Vazza
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks

    2. LewanGOALski
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B

    3. D.Glynn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      A

    4. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      A

  9. Frucke
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Is cavani going to get a 3 match ban or not?

  10. Klip Klopp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Get a keeper in for a -4?

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Not for a -4

    2. topmandan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      If it’s the difference between a guaranteed 0 or a probable +2 (with possible further up sides) then why not?

    3. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Do yes if long term move

    4. Boly Would
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Who would you get?

  11. Westfield Irons ⭐️
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Simon, nice article.
    I find the 3rd player in a triple up tends to be a compromise: a cheaper player from a strong team at risk of rotation for example.
    With Covid risks to matches, I'd strongly advise a triple up this season.
    I'm also a big supporter of the talisman theory, if you triple up you probably lose a talisman in your starting eleven.
    I'd also even consider BPS - with a triple up, those 3 players are sharing around the BPS from one match.
    Cheers!

    1. SteJ
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Wooah! Hold your horses there mate. You've actually commented on the article!
      Don't you know you're supposed to just post innane questions about transfers and how people rate your team!

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, nobody talking about the article is annoying. Only these RMT:s and same A or B questions...

      I have Che def triple up atm. 5+5+5.5 was the original cost for James, Chilwell and Zouma. Compared to cheapest nailed alternatives the extra cost isn't that high, only two million. That can also be compared to the cost of TAA, Robbo or other premiums. If they are individually good options, then they simply are.

      There are risks especially this year, but another question is whether risks outweigh potential benefits. Since I had bad start for this season, I cannot play safe and like everyone else above me. Differentials that really deliver are hard to find, so double and triple ups are the other possibility.

      Defensive triple up with two cheap (hopefully) value defenders should also give the possibility to be more aggressive with attacking players and try the famous upside chasing strategy where the upside is biggest.

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Oops... I have Mendy, Chilwell and James, but it changes nothing. Except perhaps the fact that gk can't be rotated with others.

    3. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Why would you recommend triple up due to covid times? Surely the threat of games being cancelled with little to no notice means you should probably only have one player from any team. I have two villa and one Newcastle and that's putting my team under serious pressure this week. If that was a city Liverpool game and I had tripled up on city and Liverpool then I'd be rightly goosed

  12. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Watkins, Sterling/Mane to Jesus, Mahrez (-4)?

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Out of the frying pan....

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        ...into the rocketship to top 1 OR

  13. Jones Kusi
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Would you WC this mess?

    2 FT 1.7 ITB

    * = all flagged
    McCarthy Steer
    Robbo* Lamptey Chilwell Taylor Justin
    Bruno Rashford* Ziyech ASM* Bissouma
    Kane* Adams Jimmy*

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah wc

    2. Jones Kusi
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      But I feel like there are no good teams to target.

    3. topmandan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Sell ASM & Jimmy >

      Jota & Jesus or Mahrez & Bamford ?

  14. Tango74
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Ziyech to Mahrez? already have KDB

    1. LewanGOALski
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Nah

  15. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    What do you think will score more points over the next 5 gameweeks?

    A. Calvert Lewin
    B. Grealish, but that means a hit down the line

    1. Vazza
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      B

  16. Vazza
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you remove next week to accommodate Salah

    A. Bruno
    B. Vardy
    C. Kane
    D. Son

    1. LewanGOALski
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Watch the games within the weekend and decide then

  17. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    (C): Vardy or Mahrez..?

    1. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Vardy, sure to play 90 minutes and he is Wednesday lad.

    2. Vazza
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Watch highlights of last weeks games and decide then. Haha! Just kidding, they are both good picks. I think I would be tempted to captain Mahrez. Good luck

      1. LewanGOALski
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Loved it! 😀
        thanks, Mahrez is tempting, true

    3. drughi
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Mahrez

  18. JollyGoodYellows
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Please help, at a loss of what to do. 1FT and 1.1itb. I'm wildcarding next week so essentially any 1 week punts?

    Mccarthy (Button)
    Zouma Holding Justin (Konsa Mitchell)
    Bruno JRod Son Bissouma (Grealish)
    DCL Vardy Kane

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      A Man City player

      1. JollyGoodYellows
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Yep, questions is Mahrez or KDB and how to get said player.

  19. NejiHyuuga01
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    JRod to Zaha this week for a -4 or hold until next week Son/JRod to Salah/Zaha for a -4?

  20. kbogusz
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Are these good choices for a WC?

    McCarthy Forster
    Chilwell Lamptey Dallas Coufal Neco
    Fernandes Salah KDB Jota Soucek
    G. Jesus Bamford Welbeck

    That would leave me 0.9 ITB.

    Quite worried that Chilwell may be rotated soon which considering his quite high price might tempt me for a cheaper alternative. Same reason I haven't decided to go for Dias really. With doing so i could get Bowen/Fornals instead of Soucek for example. Any suggestions?

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Forward line is an issue.

      1. kbogusz
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Don't really see any better alternatives, Vardy is too expensive to make a team with Bruno, Salah and KDB. And im not sure about DCL as Everton are not the same team as they were in the beginning, especially without Digne. Difficult fixtures after GW11 too.

  21. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Tripling up on Villa sure worked out.

  22. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hi...have taken a - 4 so I have 10 outfield players this week and no keeper.

    Is it worth taking another - 4 and doing martinez to Mccarthy?

    Thanks

    1. kbogusz
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Not really, Villa have quite good fixtures later and it's never worth getting hits for a goalkeeper in my opinion. I'd keep Martinez and get 0 this GW.

    2. Rinseboy
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      not for a -4 surely. More chance you end up -2 than +2 in points. Then Martinez has better fixtures in the short term too

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

  23. gawa11
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Can any help on this decision please?
    1. Bruno and jota
    2. Kdb and ward prowse

    1. TomSaints
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      2 this week but 1 next week

  24. Tinmen
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Folks,Which combo should I opt for ?

    A) KDB and Brewster
    B) Mahrez and Ziyech

    1. Kuzser
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      В

  25. Kuzser
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Will appreciate your thoughts guys on the best way to approach City and Liverpool matches vs Fulham
    1ft, 3.1itb
    1) Son-> KdB -> Salah hokey-cokey
    2) Son->Kdb this week, Ziyech Vardy-> Salah Bamford gw12 for -4
    3) Bowen->Mahrez this week, Ziyech Vardy-> Salah Bamford gw12 for -4
    4) Ziyech Saiss-> Kdb Dallas this week for -4, Vardy Bowen-> Jota Bamford gw12 for -4

    Martinez
    Robbo - James- Justin
    Son - Bowen - Grealish - Ziyech - Bruno
    DCL - Vardy

    Mitchell - Brewster - Saiss

    1. Tinmen
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      4 easily for me

    2. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I'm looking at 2 for my team

  26. Casual Player
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    How likely to be any further info on NUFC before the trade deadline?

    As someone who mostly follows other sports in other countries, it amazes me there’s no info on who has COVID, or even the exact number of personnel.

    Where are the rumours and media leaks at?

  27. konrad.sygula95
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Hi guys,
    I have 2ft 0.2 itb and 3 free Villa players I am planning to do
    Martinez & Watkins to Mccarthy & Bamford and bench Grealish what do you reckon ?

    Martinez/Forster
    Chillwell/Coufal/KWP/Kilman/Cancelo
    KDB/Bruno/Ziyech/Grealish/Bissouma
    Vardy/ Watkins/ DCL

  28. Openboxman
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Did I do a -8 yes.

    Was it sterling/foden/Cresswell > KDB/Jota/dallas

    Yes.

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Have Salah?

      1. Openboxman
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Oh yes. Kdb to Mane for Fulham planned as well

  29. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Sonny to KDB for free?

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      No

    2. PastaFasul
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      For free yes especially if you captain...for a hit no. Son may still outscore KDB this GW.

  30. Johnny too hotty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    I’ve done Bruno and semedo to kdb and Dias

    May they Bruno but the risk of no kdb has me uneasy. Is that ridiculous

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      You did what now?!

      1. Johnny too hotty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Oh dear is it a bad move

    2. PastaFasul
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Risky...no one else you could switch for KDB?

      1. Johnny too hotty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        If Bruno does nothing and kdb does Neely it’s a good move ?

        1. PastaFasul
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Therein lies the risk, Bruno has not blanked away from home yet this season.

    3. Johnny too hotty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Only salah but I want him next week. I feel kdb will put score Bruno next 2.