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Monitor – Philippe Coutinho

Heading into the home game against Stoke, Philippe Coutinho was one of the most popular picks around. Second only to Eden Hazard in terms of midfield ownership in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), the Liverpool winger was heavily backed to run riot against the Potters after a thrilling first few months on Merseyside last time round.

Unfortunately for his Fantasy owners, Coutinho returned a blank while Iago Aspas and Daniel Sturridge picked up the points after combining for the Reds’ match-winner. As we edge ever-closer to the weekend’s fixtures, we take a look back at the Brazilian’s display against Mark Hughes’ side and assess the underlying data in our first Monitor article of the new season.

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Just A Hat
10 years, 9 months ago
😀
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Barnsley FC
10 years, 9 months ago
Now I'm worried I don't have him
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RamaJama
10 years, 9 months ago
Why?
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Son is Rising
10 years, 9 months ago
Never considered shipping him anyway, more worried about my 4 blankers!
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Benteke the Essential Answer to RvP?
- DC -
10 years, 9 months ago
IS BENTEKE ESSENTIAL?

I believe he is starting to be and was getting close at points last season. Home or away he can be deadly, I remember when we got beat 3-1 at Anfield, he was instrumental. They've just beaten Arsenal 3-1 at the Emirates. He seems to be fixture proof, because he does it against the better sides, he can also be explosive, I still remember his hat-trick last season, it was amazing having him in your team when he did that. Also on penalties, captain option and seems to be Villa's go to man and main points scorer in a counter attacking, pacey on the wings team. Leaky at the back, but up front Benteke is THE MAN.

But is he essential?

I think he is and I also think a steal at £9.0m. So glad he is in my team and was last season. I feel safe. Probably the only player I feel safe with, the other is van Persie.

Is he THE alternative to the other man?
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1. ZaKNaFeiN
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Man, I've been planning to trade him out for RvP...
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    I had Benteke for most of last season. Captained him loads of times.
    
    Always come of for me.
    
    Probably my favorite fantasy player.
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2. The Mandalorian
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Yes hes looking good right now
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3. Lanley Staurel
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Pondering on it myself. He is my route though into Man City's attack. I would want to move in NegredonornKun for him. Difficult choice but ultimately he plays for Villa....
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  1. Thick Of It
    10 years, 9 months ago
    In turn you do not have the European matches and rotation headache that a Citeh striker will inevitably give you. And a 2 million less than KUn, I may stick with Benteke.
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    1. - DC -
      10 years, 9 months ago
      I planned to go with 3 DGW'ers, Ivanovic, Hazard and Lukaku.
      
      But I just couldn't leave my man Benteke out.
      
      Lukaku will be the one moving on for me. I can't lose Benteke.
      
      I captained him in the Sky game this week aswell even knowing it was Arsenal away.
      
      Never lets me down.
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      1. Thick Of It
        10 years, 9 months ago
        Aye I captained him too, plenty said not to given the fixtures but at "half time" with 20 points from him I am very happy.
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    2. Lanley Staurel
      10 years, 9 months ago
      Yep I am now! I think Silva is my route into Man City now. Avoids rotation too. Keeping Tekkers. Nice to have a player who you KNOW will play every game too.
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  2. iLoonie
    10 years, 9 months ago
    I'm keeping Benteke .. Nailed on and involved 50% of
    Villa goals last season..
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    1. - DC -
      10 years, 9 months ago
      No way?
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4. applebonkers
  10 years, 9 months ago
  think he'll need assists to be essential. looks uicy though even at 9.0.
  stat: only one team has kept villa out in 2013, man city (with kolo toure that day)
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  1. The Finnisher
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Nice stat
    
    Benteke's chances created numbers are good for a forward but the worry is his team mates...
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    1. applebonkers
      10 years, 9 months ago
      i do recall shouting at agbonlahor a fair bit last season. rubbed in by agbonlhaor then going and scoring chances which other players laid on for him
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  2. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Really?
    
    Benteke aint going anywhere.
    
    The fact that Agbonlahor and Weimann look in form, makes me even more comfortable holding Benteke. They have some attacking full backs aswell, it all centres around Benteke.
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5. Mull
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I'd struggle to pick him as my captain over someone from a top 6 team. He won't get two penalties every week and was pretty anonymous apart from those goals.
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  1. Flicka
    10 years, 9 months ago
    This. If it weren't for the penalties, I think he pretty much had only one more chance on a counter late in the game. Not essential yet.
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    1. Sparky
      10 years, 9 months ago
      He might be now!
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  2. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Unfortunately when you dont have van Persie, you have to go for other players. I myself dont have a "default" option.
    
    I've captained Benteke loads over top 6 teams, always comes good.
    
    Might be just pure luck, but hey ho!
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6. jamsiep
  10 years, 9 months ago
  He scored one goal against top 5 sides last season.
  
  "Fixture proof".
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    You dont like me do you?
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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
      10 years, 9 months ago
      😆
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    2. jamsiep
      10 years, 9 months ago
      My new form of entertainment is trolling comments that are gunning for being "Hot Topics".
      
      That and the phrase "fixture proof" always sets me off. 😉
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      1. - DC -
        10 years, 9 months ago
        I didnt ask for a hot topic. Couldn't care less about that, too old for that stuff I think! 😆
        
        Just want discussion and to see what others think in the community.
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  2. Nice1Cyrille
    10 years, 9 months ago
    and scored 3 goals past 2 top sides this season so far...
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    1. - DC -
      10 years, 9 months ago
      He did it last season and he is doing it again from the of this one.
      
      Home or away it doesnt matter with him.
      
      So pleased I've had him from the start, can see him easily rising to £10mill like Suarez did last season. Season keeper for me baring any injuries.
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7. Ben Mee Over A Table
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Not a fan myself, but he gets it done...sort of like Michu.
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8. FantaCity
  10 years, 9 months ago
  yes, absolutely essential season keeper for me, and in combination with one or two other strong forwards (Soldado, Lambert, Negredo etc) they could easily out-score RVP plus 2 cheapies IMO.
  I also think Villa in general, even defense, are going to be stronger this year
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    I really hope so. Because I won't be drafting van Persie in unless I'm in absolute crisis.
    
    If I can get van Persie in, it'll be alongside Benteke and one other.
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9. Wilshere Knowledge
  10 years, 9 months ago
  He got 2 goals from 2 penalties (one of which got saved by a poor penalty stopped and then he got really lucky) and did nothing all game against a team with 10 men. I'm not saying he is a bad option, but you cannot be basing having him on the Arsenal game! Certainly no need to get him until GW4 at the earliest!
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    I understand that. But I'm also basing it of an entire season last season.
    
    This isn't his first game for Villa. 😆
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  2. Ben Mee Over A Table
    10 years, 9 months ago
    +1 Agbonlahor looked 5 times more dangerous than Benteke and Weimann outshone him too. He's just lucky he was on penalties. Certainly not essential, but like I said, he gets it done.
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    1. - DC -
      10 years, 9 months ago
      ....and thats all that matters!
      
      Its about points.
      
      Dzeko was brilliant, but?
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10. Top 210 Club
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I think he's more essential than Soldado, and just if Sturridge stays fit, they are both essential if you a non-RVP owner 🙂
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    If I can get the Persienator in.
    
    It will most likely be a front 3 of: Benteke - van Persie - Sturridge.
    
    But it will have to wait until I WC.
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11. This!
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Good effort, I strongly agree, but you need some stats to back up your arguments. Here you go;
  2013: RVP goals 14, Benteke 16 goals. Not sure about number of assists but RVP had 15 for the entire season vs Bentekes 4.
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  1. Yank Revolution
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Is the 11 assist difference worth 5 million though? I don't. And I LOVE RvP!
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12. Your Mum's Athletic
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I think he is essential, im lucky to have benteke and RVP in my team without damaging the balance of my team, the number one rule in fantasy football is pick players who are nailed on 90 mins, it avoids headaches and stressing about line-ups, perfect
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13. Rossendale Rover
  10 years, 9 months ago
  DC, I'm a Benteke holder, I've no RVP and I'm sitting comfortable at the moment though i confess that the attraction was based on pre-season form and the DGW. The major plus for owning Benteke is that for a prolific striker, he has very little competition for his position and is a guaranteed starter, which simply isn't the case for forwards from the big 6. Rule number 1 for FPL is making sure your players start. There are loads of great forwards, Negredo, Soldado, et al but I hate the worry of rotation so for the time being I'm stocking until the alternatives are proven and certain to play. Second, he's on set pieces so even when he doesnt perform, there's penalties which yield points throughout the season. And oh yes, lest I or get, he's a great finisher in a team on the up, playing fantastic counter attacking football, and for those reasons alone, for now, I'm sticking.
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Al Pacino
10 years, 9 months ago
Highest key passes with Hazard, both blanked. Such teases.
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1. - DC -
  10 years, 9 months ago
  They will do from time to time. Patience!
  
  As a Liverpool supporter, Coutinho is on another level entirely, the only other player we have who can perform at that level is Suarez. Everything is going through Coutinho and he looks so so dangerous every time he is on the ball. He can score and his vision to pick a pass is unbelievable.
  
  He is an amazing player and a joy to watch. He is so far ahead of opposition defenders, he can take them one way and then the other in the blink of an eye. He's done things and fooled me watching on the TV, just imagine how defenders feel?
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  1. Son is Rising
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Yeah I watched the game, he was veerrrrryyy impressive.
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  2. jamsiep
    10 years, 9 months ago
    You make him sound like the next Messi.
    
    ....yet he's nowhere near the Brazil squad and couldn't get in a rubbish Inter side.
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    1. goriuanx
      10 years, 9 months ago
      lol at this comment.
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    2. - DC -
      10 years, 9 months ago
      He can be as good as he wants to be.
      
      He's that good.
      
      If he played for Barcelona, he'd be in the Brazil team.
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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
      10 years, 9 months ago
      This is how you make a reappearance on the boards 😀
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2. Kings of Lyon ★
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Heart breaking just get 3 points from each
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 9 months ago
    It will come....
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rozzo
10 years, 9 months ago
Zabaleta or coleman? Is zabaleta really worth the extra £1 mil more? Was going to go coleman all week but suddenly had a wobble!
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1. Reed_Rothchild
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I have both
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2. Freshy
  10 years, 9 months ago
  When the fixtures pileup for MC and Internationals take a toll, Zabs will be rested for Richards abit.
  I still think hes worth it to have MC defensive cover.
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  1. Ben Mee Over A Table
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Not so sure...no one has seen Micah in a long time :/
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Son is Rising
10 years, 9 months ago
I think his increase in value will matter little if Villa keep playing anything like they did last week. Obviously they won't always be that good, but last season was dreadful for them so this year the team should do better. Regression to the mean and all that!

With that in mind, do we think Benteke could beat his points haul from last year?
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1. Son is Rising
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Balls.
  
  Reply fail to -DC-
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iLoonie
10 years, 9 months ago
Really wanted Carzola but AW is not playing him in the middle...!.!.!.!
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Bridge
10 years, 9 months ago
Help would be greatly appreciated!

Mignolet (Given)
Toure, Coleman, Shaw (Ward, MTurner)
Walcott, Silva, Mirallas, Nolan (Barkley)
RVP, Sturridge, Lambert

A) Coleman/Toure, Walcott, Lambert -> Collins, Lampard, Soldado
B) Coleman, Toure, Walcott -> Collins, Zabaleta, Coutinho
C) Coleman/Toure, Walcott, Lambert -> Zabaleta, Lampard, Dzeko

Yes I have wildcarded...please don't bully me 🙂

Cheers
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1. Lanley Staurel
  10 years, 9 months ago
  You've just demonstrated why having RVP makes FPL so frustrating at times for RVP owners. Your team becomes a series of compromises and when RVP hits a barren spell you will have sleepless nights.
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  1. Bridge
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Hehe. Actually thought it was quite balanced, considering!
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    1. Lanley Staurel
      10 years, 9 months ago
      It is actually. I'm just trying to make myself feel better for not having him. Therapy needed I think....!?
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      1. Colonel Klink
        10 years, 9 months ago
        I'm wishing I had that team. Solid.
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        Colonel Klink
        10 years, 9 months ago
        I'd transfer Lampard in after the blank, though, if you choose to go with him.
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PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
10 years, 9 months ago
Being a complete melon here and can't work it out...

Any predictions on when Lukaku will drop if at all? I want to wait on transfer / team news as long as poss before making any transfers..

Thanks.
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1. SW6
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Depends on tonight
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2. Son is Rising
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Really depends on tonight. He is on 75% to drop at the moment so if he blanks/doesn't start then he will probably fall in ~8 hours. (assuming prices change at 12.00 BST)
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3. PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Cheers guys, will get planning asap then. Was waiting on the big Willian anouncement to persuade me towards Soldads.
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4. Flicka
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Depends on what happens tonight.
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5. Wag the Drog
  10 years, 9 months ago
  When men speak of the future, the Gods laugh.
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Viper
10 years, 9 months ago
Predictions for tonight?

I'll go 4-1 Chelsea.

(Ivanovic, Hazard, Lampard, Ba & Benteke)
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1. SW6
  10 years, 9 months ago
  3-1
  (Lukaku x2, Mata; Gabby)
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  1. Al Fresco
    10 years, 9 months ago
    3-1 (Lukaku, Schurrle, Ba; Benteke)
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2. applebonkers
  10 years, 9 months ago
  2-1 chelsea
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3. Ben Mee Over A Table
  10 years, 9 months ago
  3-1
  
  Hazard (pen), Lukaku, Ramires, Agbonlahor
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Reedy
10 years, 9 months ago
Adderz, the Chelsea game is on Talksport tonight if that helps. Not the same I know.
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Viper
10 years, 9 months ago
Also, on the matter of FPL..

Lukaku -> A) Lambert or B) Dzeko?
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1. Parm
  10 years, 9 months ago
  b
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2. SW6
  10 years, 9 months ago
  C) Bony 😉
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3. Viper
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Thanks lads!
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  1. Brucey
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Already got Dzeko so planning to switch Lukaku for Lambert
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FACUPARSE
10 years, 9 months ago
Lukaku +Hazard

For

Sissoko +Aguero
Cisse + Silva
HBA + Soldado?
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Lanley Staurel
10 years, 9 months ago
Kone soon to be £6.9m! Must be an option soon if Martinez gets him into a regular slot as the front man.
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1. Reedy
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Kone but not forgotten
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  1. Evans
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Nice .....That would've made a great team name
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fantasyfanatic2016
10 years, 9 months ago
Hi guys
I want to bring in RVP by GW4 but not to sure how to bring him in. how can i improve my team. any suggestions

mignolet (davis)
terry, mertesaker, coleman, (brayford, chester)
hazard, coutiniho, mirallas, walcott, (lucas)
soldado, lukaku, giroud

how about terry-shaw for gw2
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1. Evans
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Not sure u get to RVP without major surgery
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applebonkers
10 years, 9 months ago
is it ironic that puncheon has joined the team the premier league will be wiping their arses with?
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1. Reedy
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Haha! There's a certain poetic justice to it. They ought to sign Ridgewell too.
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  1. applebonkers
    10 years, 9 months ago
    and pay for him in just £20 notes
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Pepin - RIP Absinthe
10 years, 9 months ago
Love the article - he's one to keep for now, obviously. A little deceiving only judging by one home game against Stoke, but I like what I saw in the game & the stats here.
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NED KELLY
10 years, 9 months ago
Is Westwood number 1 choice for Di Canio ? Thought it would be Vito
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1. onionbarje
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Who knows, could be rotation
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2. _nod
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I think Sunderland fans think they will be rotated.
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Crabster
10 years, 9 months ago
RVP or Saldado for this GW...????
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1. Reedy
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Soldado for me I think.
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Green Arrow
10 years, 9 months ago
Boruc(Mignolet)
Ivan Coleman Dawson Ward Chester
Hazard Coutinho Wally Zaha Whittingham
Lukaku Benteke Studge

Does it sound crazy to do Ivan,Haz,Lukaku,Zaha>Zab,Silva,Aguero+4.5 for a 12pt hit? 12pts seem a lot, but with Lukaku n Zaha prices sure to drop by the end of the week, and Zab n Silva on the rise, I may never be able to do this again. Or are there any other solutions? Of course, I'll wait till tonight's game to do it, opinions?
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1. Top 210 Club
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Though one... Zaha may get a look in if Moyes rotates... Silly to get rid of all Chelsea coverage, as Mourinho only lost once at OT I believe... Would do 2 transfers, else if you really unhappy maybe wc?
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2. busteddocket
  10 years, 9 months ago
  sigh.
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Pepin - RIP Absinthe
10 years, 9 months ago
My players tonight are hardly differentials...
Hazard 36.4%
Ivanovic 28.3%
Lukaku 18.3%
Benteke 25.1%

The question is how many have all 4 🙂
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1. Billy Gilmore
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Not me 🙂
  
  Have 3 + basically the same though 😉
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2. Freshy
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Thats my lineup too. Hazzarrrrr with the C
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Top 210 Club
10 years, 9 months ago
Sorry to bug you guys with another RMT, but this is my final draft. Any obvious flaws? Feel free to criticize away...

Boruc - Speroni

Coleman - Shaw - Collins - Zabaleta - Ward

Silva - Hazard - Coutinho - Walcott - Barkley

Benteke - Dzeko - Sturridge
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1. goriuanx
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Wildcard?
  
  Pretty much kneejerked.
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  1. Top 210 Club
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Nah was always the plan to wc in gw2. Had Dzeko, Haz, Walcott, Cout, tekkers already.
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goriuanx
10 years, 9 months ago
Chelsea 5-0.

Lukaku hatrick.
Terry goal.
Hazard goal.
Lukaku 2 assists.

YES PLEASE
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1. Kings of Lyon ★
  10 years, 9 months ago
  for 10 mins game time thats not bad
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2. Parm
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Who assists the Lukaku hat trick?
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  1. goriuanx
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Benteke, somehow. 😉
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3. Billy Gilmore
  10 years, 9 months ago
  *5-4
  
  Benteke 4 goals
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4. Top 210 Club
  10 years, 9 months ago
  And Cech 3 assists 😛
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In Tommy We Trust
10 years, 9 months ago
Brilliant article Paul says a Coutinho owner 🙂
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1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
  10 years, 9 months ago
  +monkey
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PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
10 years, 9 months ago
So Chelsea will probably start Mata and Luk. tonight.
Do we all concur?
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1. Top 210 Club
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Yeah but don't be surprised if Ba gets the nod.
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2. Al Fresco
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I concur - Mata to last about 60 mins, Ba to come on for Lukaku with around 15 mins to go.
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The Sarjeant
10 years, 9 months ago
I'm playing with 3 at the back, and Rat didn't play. My first automatic substitution is a midfielder, so obviously he won't be subbed in. But my 2nd is a defender. Will he be subbed in or not?
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1. Billy Gilmore
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Yes, he will.
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  1. The Sarjeant
    10 years, 9 months ago
    Thanks, ill only get another 1 point, but 1 points better than 0 points!
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2. Essan
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Yes, if only 2 DEF play then the 1st DEF on the bench comes in ahead of any other player.
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3. Wilshere Knowledge
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Yes he will be subbed in.
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EssienTheSon
10 years, 9 months ago
So, I have Sturridge and Coutinho. But no City or United cover.

Should I get:

1.Silva for Coutinho
2.Aguero for Sturridge
3.RvP for Sturridge
4. Stay with Coutinho and Sturridge and ignore United and City cover.
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1. DietCoke
  10 years, 9 months ago
  I wouldn't try too hard to base your decisions around cover. Pick the players who you can afford and who you think will bring you the most points.
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2. onionbarje
  10 years, 9 months ago
  4 for now
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The Machine
10 years, 9 months ago
Anyone else read Lehnman's comments?

"From my point of view I just hope the Australian public give it to him right from the word go for the whole summer and I hope he cries and he goes home."

Hmmm
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1. Ben Mee Over A Table
  10 years, 9 months ago
  Us Aussies need to stick together...to fight Stuart Broad!
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