Pre-Season

Scout Notes – Pre-Season Round-Up

With four Premier League sides – Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Swansea and West Brom – all in action over the next few hours, we roll out a first re-cap of the summer fixtures to date this evening.

Listed below is a match by match breakdown of all the encounters so far, with details of goals, assists and line-ups.

We’ll be publishing a round-up of the latest results tomorrow, while all the pre-season scores, scout notes and form players are being captured and collated in our Pre-Season Section.

Carolina RailHawks 2 West Ham 2

The Hammers’ brief American tour ended in the early hours of this morning with no wins, a couple of goals and a 40-minute bad weather delay as their sights now turn to their UEFA Europa League third qualifying round first leg on July 28.

Skipper Winston Reid (who managed a goal at both ends of the pitch) was teed up for the Hammers’ first by Andy Carroll before the big Geordie put his side ahead thanks to a cross from new wide man Sofiane Feghouli.

Slaven Bilic rang the changes, with nine players swapped from the 46th minute onwards, and the lack of continuity, hot and humid conditions and the threat of further thunderstorms conspired to produce a second-half of little quality or incident – on the pitch, at least.

Although Sam Byram started both matches at right-back, it’s worth noting that Michail Antonio did not fly out for the US tour due to the recent birth of his child.

West Ham XI: Adrian (Spiegel 46), Byram (Makasi 63), Reid (Henry 63), Burke (Rice 63), Cresswell (Page 46), Obiang (Poyet 63), Noble, Feghouli (Quina 63), Samuelsen, Lanzini (Browne 63), Carroll (Martinez 46).

Seattle Sounders 3 West Ham 0

Slaven Bilic used no fewer than 21 players to start the club’s two-match tour of America on July 5, handing debuts to new signings Sofiane Feghouli and Havard Nordtveit, as well as youngsters Antonio Martinez and Domingos Quina.

Former Valencia star Feghouli caught the eye and quickly formed a partnership with another summer signing (from the same Spanish club), Toni Martinez, when the pair came on at half-time. The latter is expected to be eased into English football through the Hammers’ development squad.

In addition to the above-mentioned Antonio, Bilic is having to make do without star midfielder Dmitri Payet and defenders James Collins and Angelo Ogbonna as the trio rest up after their Euro 2016 campaigns. A fourth international, Republic of Ireland goalkeeper Darren Randolph, is likely to leave the club in search of regular first team football, whilst rumoured Sunderland target, Diafra Sakho, stayed behind in London due to a back problem.

West Ham XI: Adrian (Spiegel 46), Byram (Feghouli 46), Page, (Cresswell 46), Reid (Henry 46), Rice (Burke 46), Poyet (Nordtveit 46), Noble (Obiang 46), Browne (Quina 46), Samuelsen (Lanzini 46), Makasi, Carroll (Martinez 46).

Tranmere Rovers 0 Liverpool 1

A second-half strike from Danny Ings earned Liverpool victory in the first of a busy pre-season campaign which will also take in trips to America and Germany.

In a match that took place last Friday, Ings captained a completely changed second-half Liverpool line-up, firing home after good work from Academy player Trent Alexander-Arnold.

Coach Jurgen Klopp handed debuts to new signings Sadio Mane, Joel Matip and Loris Karius in the first period and had to delve deep into the club’s playing resources as a dozen internationals are yet to return to training following Euro 2016 duties.

Liverpool XI: First half: Karius; Flanagan, Matip, Lovren, Smith; Lucas, Brannagan, Ejaria; Kent, Mane, Firmino.

Liverpool XI: Second half: Bogdan, Randall, Ilori, Wisdom, Moreno; Stewart, Chirivella, Alexander-Arnold; Markovic, Woodburn, Ings.

York City 0 Middlesbrough 6

Middlesbrough boss Aitor Karanka was another to field 22 players as his newly-promoted side swept aside York City last Saturday.

Karanka was without new signings Victor Valdes, Bernardo Espinosa and Viktor Fischer and promotion winners Ben Gibson and Grant Leadbitter, but he will have been encouraged by the second-half performance of January capture Jordan Rhodes, who hit two goals in a lively showing.

David Nugent and Adam Reach supplied a goal and assist apiece, whilst wide man Albert Adomah also managed to get his name on the scoresheet.

Middlesbrough XI: First half: Mejias, Nsue, Baptiste, Morris, Husband (Friend 27), Pattisom, Forshaw, Adomah, De Sart, De Pena, Nugent.

Middlesbrough XI: Second half: Konstantopoulos, Halliday, Jackson, McGhee, Friend, Clayton, de Roon, Carayol, Downing, Reach, Rhodes.

Woking 1 Watford 1

New Watford boss Walter Mazzarro tried out a 3-5-2 formation for the Hornets’ first friendly of pre-season on Sunday, shifting to a flat back-four just after the hour mark.

Dutch winger Steven Berghuis opened the scoring midway through the first-half with a deflected strike (courtesy of an Ikechi Anya assist) as Mazzarro tinkered with both formation and personnel, giving new signings Abdoulaye Doucoure, Jerome Sinclair and Isaac Success debuts after the break.

One notable absentee was club captain Troy Deeney, who was left out as a precaution after sustaining a slight knock in training, while Almen Abdi wasn’t involved due to sickness.

Watford XI: Gomes (Arlauskis, HT); Nyom, Britos (Rowan, 85), Hoban (Success, 67); Amrabat (Holebas, 59), Capoue (Guedioura, HT), Suarez (Watson, HT), Berghuis (Doucoure, HT), Anya; Ighalo (Sinclair, HT), Vydra (Oulare, HT).

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  1. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Really looking forward to the test series beginning tomorrow... 🙂

    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Should be good!

      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Fingers crossed, would be interesting to see how Amir copes with the hype

    2. Jay_
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Can't wait 🙂 With all respect to Sri Lanka, this series will be the real test.

        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          To be fair, our batting isn't much better than them but our bowling lineup should seriously test England

          1. Jay_
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Your batting is going to be have to be good mate, in English conditions, I don't think there is a team on earth that can deal with Broad and Anderson on fire. Can't see a draw in any of the games unless it rains, going to be very interesting how our batters cope after having it easy all summer so far.

              1. BigManBakar
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                I fancy a closely fought series, with England coming out on top with a 2-1 victory.

                Serious test for our openers, and your middle order!

        2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          But yous will miss out of will it won't it open tension that ultimately go nowhere ? .

          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I'll have the F5 button ready on my laptop. Don't worry 🙂

        3. Thomass
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Should be a great series!

          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Hopefully Amir can grab a fifer on his return 🙂

      • ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Falcao scored two goals in a friendly against Sporting Lisbon today... 🙂

        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Back to his best??

      • Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Im trying to remember a player that comes back from tournaments,qualifiers, even friendlies as beat up as Alexis.
        South American matches are nasty and he takes alot more hacks than most being the major threat on his team. Plus I think he gets jacked more and plays harder for Chile. Club teams should organize and force a "No National Team" a month before the season starts. Why should Club teams subsidize National teams?

        Just my opinion, I could be wrong

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Just not enough time in the year, tbh.

          Euros, Copa, World Cup, ACON, international friendlies, on top of league, two cups and European competition.

          There's going to be overlap. I just think clubs have to suck it up.

          Adding more rounds to the Euro's is ridiculous though.

          1. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            They could start by scrapping replay matches in the FA cup, that would save on a few fixtures each season

            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Yep, although they are often good for the lesser teams, so a balance is needed.

              They've scrapped QF replays this year, so it's a start.

            2. Freshy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              So take income away from the club teams so national teams can have fresher players.
              Its like a friend borrows your car and and gives it back damaged.

      • Knowledgeable meerkat
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Seen plenty of posts about mids and strikers - who are people thinking for their first choice keeper This season?

        1. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Valdez and maybe Mandanda if both are 4.5m

          1. Knowledgeable meerkat
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Palace is usually a safe option but they were defensively awful in the second half of last season. I kept Hennessy throughout and I think it's put me off!

        2. Just A Hat
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Probably Heaton, I love that man after his penalty saves a couple of seasons ago

          When's Butland back?

          1. Jay_
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I had Heaton and sold Tadic that week, one of my favourite FPL memories, 15 pointer.

            • Knowledgeable meerkat
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Excuse me for using the word of the week but I believe it's "imminent".

              Around 20th June he said he was a few weeks away from full fitness. Haven't heard since but looks optimistic for the start of the season

          2. Jay_
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I'm just taking a 4.5 with decent fixtures to start to with.

            • Zolo
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              De Gea/ 4.5m

              1. TJ_777
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                De Gea will be 6.0 maybe even 6.5 with how he has played. Thats alot on keepers

                1. Knowledgeable meerkat
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  If I invest in any premium keeper it'll probably be him - mourinho loves a clean sheet and de gea's ability to gain save points goes without saying

                  1. TJ_777
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Thats fine but I would go DDG/4.0 if i wanted him

                2. Zolo
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I agree, may be De Gea and a non playing one

            • HVT
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Boro look to have decent openers and are paired with Hull which might work out tho McGregor injured.
              Ddg would also be a 1 stop shop.

            • JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Depends on prices DDG, Courtois, Foster and Heaton all in the frame

          3. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            CR7 on SAF.
            https://youtu.be/8ucYd3b2DYQ

            1. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Real mutual respect and love between those two for sure.. even more so on Fergie's behalf i reckon.. watch him congratulate Ronnie after the euros the way he looks at him like he's in awe a bit of how good he has become from the kid he signed

              1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                But also watch Ronnie. He sees a hand and shakes it. Only after that does he turn to see who's hand it is. Watch and listen to reaction when he sees it's Fergie

            2. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I think Fergie has definitely had a gay wank thinking about Ronaldo.

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                That's pretty much what i was getting at mate

              2. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                When he scored that 45 yarder against Porto i knocked one out don't care what anyone says

          4. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Apparently Leroy Sane is close to joining Man City in a £40m move

            https://twitter.com/City_Watch/status/753332543357751296

            1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              That move would be insane

              *grabs coat and says goodbye

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                No it would be Leroy Sane In.

            2. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              If it happens you would have to fear for Navas and Nasri with Nolito already signed up

              1. ★Kuntheman★
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                They're basically out the door already. Nasri especially. Navas is a good squad player but even he could be out.

                1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Nasri could probably still do a job for someone in the PL but wages might be a problem

          5. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Anyone want to try joining this?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Sure

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Hmm. See below

            1. Just A Hat
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              It demanded a room name

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Try FFS

                1. Just A Hat
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  its demanding I wait for the other player

                  1. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I guess I am rubbish at that as well as Haxball

                    1. Just A Hat
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      was your keyboard broken? You weren't moving for some easy ones lol

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        It seemed to not respond or over respond and then I could only see the ball just before it hit my end. Terrible game

            2. Miss Thing
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Que? That's a new gold standard for retro mate

            3. Just A Hat
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              That was an easy win 🙂

          6. k
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            err when is FPL launching?

            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              May 2017

              1. k
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                and who is this Mark Rodgers i keep on hearing about?

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Adult film star. The inspiration behind Brokeback Mountain

                  1. k
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    i heard he looks like giroud

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      So they say. Noboody has ever seen him. He may be a myth

                  2. Bøwstring The Carp
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    He's a stunt double for Ron Jeremy

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Ron's knees are starting to go now

                  3. Salah’s Sonnet
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    And there is it! my daily fix of laughter from the one and only Cheese haha!

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      It is what I am here for. I offer no insight

                      1. k
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        seriously i also heard about mods. are ppl hacking the game?

                        1. Cheeseoid
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          I am getting a bionic Zlatan

                          1. Cheeseoid
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            Not heard of any mods in reality though.

                            There may or may not be changes we don't know

                          2. k
                            • 11 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            the game might open in 9 minutes or not...

                            1. Salah’s Sonnet
                              • 12 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              Imminent they said, any day now they said 🙂

                      2. Salah’s Sonnet
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        haha!! Laughs is all we need in life once you think about it, it covers bills, cost of food, taxes, the list goes on 🙂

                        1. Cheeseoid
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          Yes. Smile and move on after you spend months planning your GW1 side only for a GW 1 rank of 3.5 millin and then you quit

                          1. Salah’s Sonnet
                            • 12 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            Haha! yep, i have a good feeling we'll do well this season though man, and will be around 15th place in the world after GW 1 🙂

                            1. Cheeseoid
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              Maybe. We will see at least a poor opening week guarantees you green arrows

                              1. k
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                i dunno y but i always start strong, play terrible in winter time, and then save myself in the last 15 fixtures

                              2. Cheeseoid
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                We will see. How much football do you watch? I tend to have a good start and tail off in the middle. I think this in part because I don't get to watch that much football and others get an advantage whereas I am quite good at planning

                              3. k
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                admittedly not a lot, especially last season. I gave up watching MOTD due to how bad Chelsea were playing (I'm a Chelsea fan)

                              4. Cheeseoid
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                You may suffer from the same problem as me then.

                                Just a thought

                              5. Salah’s Sonnet
                                • 12 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                Haha yeah true, only way is up if we start off poorly.
                                I do watch a lot of football each week when the season is going on and i can honestly say, it has no impact on doing better in FPL, every week just seems to be different from the previous, key is to just grab the right players before they go off on some mad run, that's what wins, catching players early, my mate who is a casual did that with about 5 players all season, it's like he could see the damn future haha! Hence him winning my ML, which he has never done before, ever 🙂

          7. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            2 queries

            1 if they can't get Benteke should Palace make a cheeky move for Bony?
            2 Thoughts on Pogba and chef gate?

            1. BigManBakar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              1) Yes. Should suit their system, although I'd love Bony back at Swansea.

            2. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Chef gate?

                1. Wilshere Knowledge
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I wonder how much business a chef is privy too. 😉

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Cooks for Mark Rogers too i heard

            3. Lovren an elevator
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Yes. But I think they'll get Benteke. And if Bony moves too, I would strongly consider both (especially if back to swans) and may free up a little money for a better midfield!

          8. FFSbet.com
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Coming Soon

            Check back here during July to join the most popular fantasy football game in August.

          9. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Before I go to sleep, I'll like to make this post for the new crowd:

            With FPL 'imminent', I'm setting up a whatsapp group for the FFS regulars for some general FPL advice and match-day chat. If you are interested to join, you could email me your cell number along with your FFS ID at 'bigmanbakar@gmail.com'

            Last 2 spots remaining. No offence to the gravless, but I'm only keen on adding those posters who I've seen around these parts 🙂

            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Want my bank details whilst you are at it?

            2. Saniul
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Haha. Who is in there?

              1. BigManBakar
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Plenty. 🙂

            3. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I prefer WhatsJap

              1. HVT
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                * Viber 😉

          10. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Sane to City.

          11. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            No article on FFS about fpl opening? Slow reactions from Mark and co.

            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Mark is still coming to terms with Kolarov

            2. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Waiting for your article.

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                How to build a team in a post Kolarov world?

                Purchase Man Citys third choice left back in honor of the man. Play him every week to remember what is missing.

                Only then may we begin to heal.

                1. ★Kuntheman★
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Angelino is pretty good too

          12. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Night all, I'll leave you with the Swansea lineup for tonight's game (which isn't being streamed unfortunately)

            #Swans starting XI: Nordfeldt, Naughton, Rodon, Fernandez, Kingsley, Britton (capt), Cork, Dyer, Gorre, James, McBurnie

            1. Saniul
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              So just a bunch of random dudes and Fernandez playing.

            2. BigManBakar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Night Bow. Catch you at Haxball tomorrow 🙂

          13. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Barnet 1-0 Ipswich tonight

            #FriendliesWatch

            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Not sure if a joke or just not read article

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Only 3 years old.

              2. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                O Dem Wingiiiiieeee

            2. Just A Hat
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              😀

          14. Saniul
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Quite sometime since we have seen a good CB pairing among the top teams in the league - it is just one good CB and a mediocre one.

            Kompany for City, Smalling for United, Koscielny for Arsenal, Alderweireld for Spurs, and Zouma for Chelsea (assuming Terry won't be around any more). Even further down - it is Williams (Swansea), Funes Mori (Everton) ... Probably Fonte/van Dijk is the first really good partnership we encounter.

            I guess that's one of the things stopping them in Europe (among other things, obviously). ...

            1. BigManBakar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I'd rate Toby and Vertonghen as a very good pairing.

              1. Saniul
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Yes, probably a bit too harsh on Vertonghen there, he's a very good player, but I feel he does better playing at leftback...

            2. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Ferdinand and Vidic and Terry and Carvalho probably the last great ones. At the time you would be hard pressed to find any cb pairings better than those 2

              1. Saniul
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                I'm also a Tony Adams/Martin Keown as well, you might say I'm biased there, but can't argue about the two you mentioned - they were the best...

                1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Adams and Keown pre date those 2. Stam and Johnsen contemporaries there

                  1. Saniul
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Yes, that was the last good CB partnership we had... To be fair though, Campbell and Toure had that invincible season together.

            3. Just A Hat
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              bit harsh on Vertonghen - thought they had a good partnership

              but you are right, you don't see the Vidic/Rio Terry/Carvahllo's anymore

              1. Just A Hat
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                ahh well, everything I said in my comment was already said 🙁

              2. Saniul
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Yes, shouldn't have mentioned that Spurs pairing... Not sure how far they'll go, but they have been good together. 🙂

              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Kompany and Otamendi will be fantastic under Guardiola. 🙁

              1. Hibbo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Kompany is done.

              2. Salah’s Sonnet
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                i just have to disagree with that statement.

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Which?

                  1. Salah’s Sonnet
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    That Kompany & Otamendi will thrive under Guardiola, it just won't happen.

            4. Respect My Authoritah
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Huth + Morgan? 😀

              jk, yeah agreed apart from Spurs

              1. Saniul
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Yes, mentioning the Spurs pairing has kind of undermined my post, but you get my point right?

            5. MaRooney 5
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Vert arguably better than Toby (in real life)
              FPL wise, seems like Toby scores better

          15. Knowledgeable meerkat
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I don't even think I'm excited about Fpl anymore, but rather Just to see people's reactions on here when the site finally opens

            1. Salah’s Sonnet
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              it's how we all feel with waiting for the launch of it, when it arrives, trust me, we'll all be like 10 years olds at christmas 🙂

            2. In Like Flynn.
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              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Excitement all drained away in getting my SKY team planning done.
              Players in place ready for captaincy swaps, trying to find players that won't need constant changing, all far more exciting imo.

                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                What's you take on the new rules Flynny? Do we need both Xhaka and Fabregas for the bonus points now?

          16. Zasa
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Looks like Ligue 1's planning on starting an all-star game next season: http://www.espnfc.com/french-ligue-1/story/2912232/french-league-confirms-plan-to-introduce-all-star-match

            Best local players vs the best imports. Pretty cool, wonder how that would pan out in other top European leagues...

            1. Parm
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Ugh, all-star games suck.

              1. Zasa
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Pourquoi, monsieur?

            2. ★Kuntheman★
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I've always wanted to see a Premier League all-stars vs Liga BBVA all-stars match

              1. Zasa
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                😯 Only way I could see a non-BPL thrashing is if they play on a cold rainy night in Stoke.

              • 8 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I'd rather watch 60-year-old club legends playing to raise money for charity than a Ligue 1 all-star game. Bad idea

              1. Zasa
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Oh

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  The concept of n all star team is a good one in theory

                  1. Zasa
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I just honestly don't see what the negative aspect or critique here would be.

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      I think they can be a little disappointing but a good one would have people flocking to watch it

                      1. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Oh for sure, here in the states they're the highest viewed games in their respective leagues apart from the championship games. They're obviously just exhibitions, but if teams would actually akin to the NBA all-star games in the 90's , I think they'd be great.

                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      I would gladly watch the Bundesliga all-star game, or Premier League. But Ligue 1? Do they just take the whole PSG squad and add some random dudes from other teams?

                      1. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        You honestly think that league revolves around PSG's academy?

                        Ruffier, Gonalons, Matuidi, Lacazette, Ghezzal, Kurzawa, Ben Arfa, Diarra, Ben Yedder, Corchia, Sidibe, Aurier, Perrin, etc

                        Ignorance be damned

                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          Zasa - aren't Ben Arfa, Matuidi and Aurier PSG players? But I get the point and obviously there are others than PSG in the league, it's just me having a terrible day and not being objective. Pardon my ignorance

                          1. Zasa
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            We're talking homegrown vs imported players though.

                            Ben Arfa came from Lyon's legendary academy. Matuidi came from lower league Troyes. Aurier from Lens.

                            No worries 🙂

            3. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              -----------------Asenjo
              Juanfran Pique Ramos Alba
              ----------Bruno Busquets
              ---------Koke Iniesta Isco
              ------------------Aduriz

              ---------------Bravo
              Danilo Godin Pepe Marcelo
              ----------Modric Kroos
              -------Bale Messi Ronaldo
              ---------------Suarez

              2nd team would win!!! 😀

              1. Zasa
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Aye 😉 Think the Bundesliga's would definitely be more interesting though.

          17. Jay_
              7 years, 10 months ago

              The wizard at work, he just doesn't score ugly

              https://twitter.com/westhamtransfer/status/740989859746197504

                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Charlton Cole? Thomas Mueller? Andy Carroll?

            • Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I'm in!

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Trouble when I get home

              2. In Like Flynn.
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Have you told the wife?

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Because of the wife

                  1. In Like Flynn.
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    🙂

            • Jay_
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Has anyone else become very familiar with the Florida electric board this week?

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Do they run Pokemon Go?

                  1. Jay_
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Florida Power and Light 😉

                2. The Nuttman
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Looking at the sky rules, are there any players that are far better in sky than in FPL, or are good players good in both and I shouldn't worry too much?

                  1. andy85wsm
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I think midfielders that make lots of tackles and score/assist are better than in FPL - Ramsey is one that stands out I think and Xhaka might be okay too.

                    1. The Nuttman
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Cheers, will keep that in mind 🙂

                3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I'm going

                  1. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    round the twist?

                  2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    to bed . Only so many fpl related jokes in one night 🙂 . Good night lads 🙂

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Good night bats

                    2. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Night Bertmen

                      1. Miss Thing
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Say hi to Robin for me as you tuck him in

                4. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  So Swansea v Charlotte independence then?

                5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  that time mark rogers had dinner with nelson mandela

                  https://twitter.com/markrogers1/status/36180421792235520

                  1. Test Eagles
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    What a guy!

                  2. Jay_
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      More like Nelson Mandela house in Peckham

                    • Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Wasn't he dead by then?

                    • andy85wsm
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      😆

                    • ★Kuntheman★
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Still looking for your Twitter comments on Mr. Rogers...

                  3. theBoose
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    FPL took a little longer to load this morning.

                    I got excited.

                    It was quite melodramatic.

                  4. andy85wsm
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Is there an online bookie I can get United to win the league and Ibra top scorer? Trying to find it but not having much luck

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      You would think that would be straightforward enough. Don't know though

                      1. andy85wsm
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 13 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Yeah - you'd think. I've only checked a couple of sites. Can't combine them as a double either

                    2. Dušan Citizen
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Better buy me a membership than wasting money on that. 😆

                    3. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Can't combine on PaddyPower?

                      1. andy85wsm
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 13 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Not sure - account closed on that one. Can try girlfriends account

                        1. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          8/1 Ibra, 10/3 United, looks rubbish odds tbh.

                          1. andy85wsm
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 13 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            Yeah - can't combine from what I can see. Better odds elsewhere too

                            1. Rum Ham
                              • 9 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              Can't combine any contigently related bets unfortunately.

                            2. Ayew Serious
                              • 8 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              You can get Ibra at 11/1 and United at 7/2 at betbright.

                              Guarantee you won't find better than that

                    4. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Ibra top scorer. 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

                    5. Rum Ham
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      I'll give you 20/1

                    6. Get up ya bum
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Dreaming 😛
                      Seriously though who's gonna create the goals. You've added one excellent creative midfielder and countered that with a very defensive coach. Utd will be very solid but won't score much imo

                      1. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Agree, especially now with Mata in the transfer bin. They definitely need a solid midfielder signing to pair with Schneiderlin. Honestly, Matuidi would be a great buy or someone who's a bit more creative. .

                      2. KingNidge
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        Out scored Barca in two of 3 seasons in Spain did Jose..

                        1. Get up ya bum
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 10 months ago

                          Ah the ol Larry bird/ Cristiano ronaldo tactic of "give him the ball" 😉

                          1. KingNidge
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 10 months ago

                            Benzema and Higuain chipped in rightly.. there counter attacking was frightening.. don't remember his Chelsea sides struggling for goals too often either come to think of it

                            1. Get up ya bum
                              • 14 Years
                              7 years, 10 months ago

                              Because he had awesome attackers. This is the same utd as last season with the addition of one quality mid and a 35 year old striker. You'll have martial and Rooney as two key attackers. Don't see much goals personally. Yes yea I know martial is quality but has no end product

                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                Champ - he still has awesome attackers in Manchester. As biased I may be, Ibrahimović and Martial alone pose a lot of threat, not to mention that it'sa myth that Mourinho's teams are defensive - in fact, they are usually one of the best scoring teams in the league. It's the end of the season when Mourinho tends to play more defensively, in order to protect the lead in the league. Just like Ranieri did last year. Van Gaal was stubborn and unable to make good use of these undoubtfully fantastic attacking options at his disposal.

                              1. KingNidge
                                • 8 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                that 35 year old striker scored over 50 goals last year.. Mkhi will bring both goals and assists and Martial scored 14 goals for us last season his first in England in a team whose attacking nature was completely nullified by LVG. Rashford chipped in with a fair amount too and will only improve.. one thing we won't struggle for is goals mate i'm sure of that

                              2. Get up ya bum
                                • 14 Years
                                7 years, 10 months ago

                                Fair play lads. Personally I have no idea what to make of a 35 year old ibra taking on the prem for the first time. Won't be surprised if he does well, nor will if he really struggles to shine up top for a utd team with a serious lack of creativity aside from mkhitaryan.

                                Jonny as for them being high scoring teams, my point is you can't not score lots of goals with the quality midfilders and forward lines he has worked with. He has generally had the best players in the league. He is a very defensive coach tactically. Nothing wrong with that I personally love it. The tactical battles between Rafa and mourinho are some of the best games I've seen.

                    7. Chandler Bing
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      Have you tried SkyBet? Think it might be there.

                  5. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    I found a second Pokemon. It was sat on my desk at work just like the first one. Why is my desk some kind of Pokemon hotspot.

                    Maybe a Pokemon dogging site?