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Hall of Fame Analysis – Part One

The latest break from Premier League action has given us a chance to analyse the standings in our Live Hall of Fame.

This ranking system is applied to everyone who takes part in our Fantasy Premier League mini-leagues – both the free and members league. Managers’ performances over the seasons are then traced to give a Hall of Fame (HoF) rating.

This first article in a two-part analysis will take a close look at the histories and strategies deployed by those leading the current live HoF rankings.

This has been updated to take into account Gameweek 29 and can be viewed by Members via this link.

The second part will focus in more detail on the players they currently own, revealing the HoF leaders’ “template” squad.

If you would like to know more about the Hall of Fame, we have included a quick guide in this article. Alternatively, you can view this movie to listen to Mark and Rate My Team’s Chris Atkinson talk you through it.

The career version, which shows the standings at the end of each season, is free to view here or via the HoF tab on the home page.

Live Hall of Fame Top 10

Since our last look at this elite group, in Gameweek 25, Jay Egersdorff has reclaimed top spot in style, after losing it briefly to our career Hall of Fame number one Ville Ronka.

Jay has now moved up to 150 in the overall rankings following a stellar run that featured green arrows in five of the last six Gameweeks.

A skilful navigation of Gameweek 27’s double set of fixtures, involving Stoke and Manchester City, was key.

Taking a hit to draft in City pair Raheem Sterling and Sergio Aguero, he parted company with Eden Hazard and Hull City’s budget striker Adama Diomande. This saw Jay ditch his long-term use of a 3-5-2 formation and roll out an impressive front three of Romelu Lukaku, Harry Kane and Aguero, who was his triple captain. All got on the scoresheet and delivered 46 points between them.

This pragmatic approach to a shift in the fixtures was also evident in Gameweek 28, when just eight teams played. Finding himself woefully short of numbers, he spent 12 points in hits to field ten players. While Andy Carroll and Sadio Mane failed to deliver, fellow new recruits Josh King and Ross Barkley brought a combined 27 points to steer Jay to a Gameweek 28 rank of 20,993 – his best to date.

Jay, who prior to Gameweek 27 had taken just two hits, was back spending points again in Gameweek 29 and also making further use of FPL’s chips. Out went the injured Kane and misfiring Philippe Coutinho and in came Diego Costa and Alexis Sanchez, who scored and earned two bonus points before hobbling off with an ankle injury he has since recovered from.

Jay also unleashed his all out attack chip to field just Leighton Baines and Marcos Alonso in defence. But his Gameweek 29 experience perhaps shows how weak this chip has proved for many, as his first sub Chris Brunt’s two-point return was double that of his lowest scoring midfielder, Sadio Mane.

A relatively late leap onto the Lukaku bandwagon has also helped Jay improve his ranking. After missing out on the Everton striker’s stunning four-goal haul against Bournemouth in Gameweek 24, he finally transferred him in two Gameweeks later and captained him in three of the next four fixtures, earning a total of 68 points.

Using Fusen’s FPL Statistico tool we have discovered that Jay has earned a total of 449 points from his captains, with Sanchez’s nine armband awards the most, with Aguero earning the nod seven times and Lukaku just four.

With his second Wildcard and Bench Boost chips intact, Jay looks well-placed to continue his ascent and add to a ten-season career that has included seven top 5,000 finishes.

In terms of double Gameweek 34 sides, Manchester United, Crystal Palace and Middlesbrough, Jay has no representation. If he doesn’t deploy his second Wildcard, that recent history suggests he is more than willing to spend his way out of trouble.

Jay’s recent fine form has been needed to keep second place Ville Ronka at bay. The Finnish enigma, who had been top of the Hall of Fame since 2013/14 prior to this year, has also been excelling since our last update in Gameweek 25, when he was ranked 26,693.

Four green arrows have seen him climb to a season-high rank of 8,637 and on course to add to his four finishes in the top 1,000.

Like Jay, he also tackled Gameweek 27’s double and the following week’s blanks head on, taking a points hit in each. Given that these were his only hits this season, it shows that even the most conservative manager sees the benefits of investing wisely in these potentially lucrative Gameweeks.

His new recruits in Gameweek 27 were Sterling and Aguero, who he triple captained for City’s pair of matches. The duo were offloaded for the blank Gameweek 28 fixtures for Fernando Llorente and Sadio Mane. Yet both failed to deliver and Ville may wish he’d taken another hit, given that he could only field ten players that week. Bearing in mind that the average score that week was just 19 points, his 49-point return was more than enough to see a rankings boost.

Gameweek 29 saw Diego Costa come in for the injured Kane as he continues with a 3-4-3 set up utilised for most of this season. It would be no surprise to see the Blues striker receive the armband from Ville in Gameweek 30 when Crystal Palace visit Stamford Bridge.

Ville, like Jay, was another to miss out on Lukaku’s incredible return against Bournemouth in Gameweek 24. That clearly rankled, as he drafted him in within three hours of the final whistle at Goodison Park that day.

With three out of four captaincies since then for the Belgian, Ville has been keen to make up for lost time. While he has captained Lukaku a total of four times, Sanchez has been his preferred pick – he’s handed the Arsenal midfielder the armband on 12 occasions, more than any other player.

Given that Lukaku has earned him an average of 23 points via the captaincy, compared to Sanchez’s 13.8, perhaps Ville may rethink his allegiances for the season run-in. It is also worth noting that Ville has only captained six players this season, keeping his faith limited to a small poolof FPL assets.

With Bench Boost, the second Wildcard and All Out Attack still to play, it remains to be seen how he will tackle double Gameweek 34, given he currently has no Middlesbrough, Palace or United assets.

Sticking in third in our live Hall of Fame is Peter Kouwenberg (aka My Pretty Pony), who has also found success by maximising the potential of double and blank Gameweeks.

This period has also suited his aggressive stance in the transfer market. In total he has taken 20 hits this season, four of which came over Gameweek 27 and 28.

This paid off as since our Gameweek 25 update he has moved from 6,126 to 1611 in the overall rankings.

For City’s double, he went one step further than Jay and Ville by adding Leroy Sane to fellow new recruits Sterling and triple captain Aguero. For the blank fixture he made four transfers, bringing in Carroll, Coutinho, Lukaku and King, with the latter two delivering a combined tally of 42 points after also handing the armband to Lukaku.

This is shaping up to being another sensational campaign for Peter, who has his second Wildcard and Bench Boost to play and has picked up two top 500 final placings in his 11-season career.

It remains to be seen if he can eclipse Jay and Ville but his armband record offers hope. A total captaincy haul of 465 points is 16 more than Jay, while he is also more flexible with the armband than Ville, handing it to ten different players, with Sanchez and Aguero receiving it the most, with seven nods apiece.

He is also one step ahead of his two top three rivals, with Manchester United’s Antonio Valencia and Middlesbrough’s Calum Chambers in place for their double Gameweek 34.

Jack Kennedy is in fourth position. A new entry into the top ten since our last update and an FPL manager who was ranked 31st in our career Hall of Fame, which was last updated at the end of last season. His current rank of 649 has helped him to build on an impressive 11-year career that has seen him finish in the top 100 once and the top 500 on a further two occassions.

Unlike those above him, Jack has already deployed his second Wildcard, using it in Gameweek 28 to field 11 players and set himself up for the long term.

Alongside strong picks during this reduced schedule, such as King and Lukaku, he also drafted in Dele Ali and kept hold of Kane and Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso. A Gameweek rank of 8,422 gave him a strong immediate return and his Wildcard prospered again in Gameweek 29, when he scored 89 points. A transfer of Christian Eriksen in for Coutinho helped this tally.

Kane is still in his squad, but given the striker’s injury and his double Spurs midfield, a move to another premium striker such as Diego Costa looks a strong possibility. Considering that he has successfully deployed a 3-5-2 formation in Kane’s absence, Jack has the luxury of holding fire while he considers his options. Taking hits, which he has done seven times so far, to tackle the impending double Gameweeks may also be needed. Having Wildcarded before the double Gameweek 34 announcement, he is currently without any assets from teams playing twice then.

Our very own Mark Sutherns climbs from ninth to fifth since our last update by continuing his aggressive approach to transfers.

Ranked 2,265 in Gameweek 25, he now sits in 491st spot and looks on course for a fourth top 1,000 finish.

Similar to the above-mentioned managers, Mark has not been afraid to spend points to maximise the blank and double Gameweeks, taking five hits between Gameweeks 27 and 29.

Sane joined Sterling and triple captain Aguero in Gameweek 27 and the following week Josh King was a notable success as part of a four-transfer manoeuvre. The next week, Antonio Valencia, Sanchez and Spurs midfielder Son Heung-min were drafted in for a double hit. While the Tottenham midfielder let him down, the Red Devils right back and Gunners talisman both scored and crucially are now in place for their impending double Gameweeks.

With Andy Carroll as a third striker and Josh King part of a five-man midfield, Mark has the option to use either a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formation. Of the two, the former has been deployed most so far.

Since Gameweek 25, Lukaku has received the armband most often and has helped him achieve a total captaincy score of 453 points. Mark has been quite conservative with his selections in this regard, only using seven players as captains, with Sanchez the most popular.

Despite almost halving his overall ranking since Gameweek 25 Bruce Savage slips one place to sixth. Now at 2,100 in the overall placings, the Chelsea fan has also spent points over this period, taking three hits in the last four Gameweeks, to take his total number to nine.

Having earned a 21-point return by using his Triple Captain chip in Gameweek 20 on Aguero against Burnley, he will no doubt have breathed a sigh of relief to see the Argentine scored just once over his pair of Gameweek 27 matches. He further offset a potential points explosion from the City marksman by handing him the armband over his double fixtures.

Bruce may be another to regret not spending more points in Gameweek 28 as even with Carroll and Sigurdsson drafted in, he could still only field eight players. While his 45-point return was way above the Gameweek average of 19, a less cautious approach could have paid off.

Dele Alli joined Bruce’s regular 3-4-3 formation in Gameweek 29, helping him to a 78-point return. But with no double Gameweek 34 assets, either his second Wildcard will have to be deployed or he will need to be more assertive regarding hits.

His impressive use of the armband will help for the run-in, having earned 491 points from his nine captain selections, which includes seven nods each for Lukaku and Aguero. With Bench Boost also intact, a fourth top 1,000 finish looks on the cards.

Another new entry into the top ten since our Gameweek 25 update is seventh-placed Phil Ampleford, who was ranked just 46th in our career Hall of Fame.

Phil now sits in a season-high 605th spot in the overall rankings, having been in and around the top 10,000 since Gameweek 19.

The story of his last four Gameweeks is a familiar one among this elite group – spending points to draft in Sane, Sterling and triple captain Aguero in Gameweek 27 and also to secure key Gameweek 28 assets, including Lukaku and King.

With further points spent in Gameweek 29 to bring in Costa, Alli and Sanchez, Phil clearly sees the value of strategic hit taking. His seven hits since Gameweek 26 bring his season tally up to 15.

He is currently using a 3-5-2 formation, with Burnley’s Ashley Barnes the forward makeweight. It’s uncertain whether that changes, given that he has no double Gameweek 34 assets, while across the season, 3-4-3 has been Phil’s preferred strategy.

With a second Wildcard and Bench Boost to play, he looks set for recording his highest ever finish, beating 2013/14’s record of 779. Phil will also be optimistic having Sanchez in his side, with the Chilean being his most popular captain this season. However, given that the Gunners man has only handed him an average of 14.8 points when trusted with the armband, compared to Aguero’s 18.8, Lukaku’s 19.2 and Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s 20, he may well rethink his strategy.

Our refreshed Hall of Fame top ten features another new face since our Gameweek 25 update with Paul Marshman taking eighth spot. His ascent from 38th in the career hall of fame is due to an incredible recent run that has seen him move from 19,036 in Gameweek 24 to 861 in Gameweek 29.

Considering that his eleven-season career includes four top 1,000 finishes, Paul looks set to maintain his lofty current rank.

This elite group’s attack on the blank and double Gameweeks is a trend continued by Paul, who spent three hits to ensure he could field ten players during Gameweek 27, with King’s acquisition proving particularly lucrative. The transfer in of triple captain Aguero and Sterling also helped.

A second Wildcard and bench boost are being saved, no doubt for the impending double Gameweeks. With no United or Palace assets and just the one ‘Boro player, the injured George Friend, the former of these chips may well be deployed before Gameweek 34.

With a total captaincy haul of 459 points, there is certainly some room for improvement, with the armband worn by eight players for Paul this season. Sanchez, with seven nods, is his current favourite. Another feature of his strategy has been using 3-4-3, which has been used 18 times, compared to seven times for 3-5-2.

In ninth is our highest climber, Geoff Dance, who was ranked just 166th in our career Hall of Fame at the end of 2015/16.

With an overall rank of 69 it is no wonder he has climbed so high. He is by some distance our highest placed manager in the top ten live Hall of Fame.

A 106-point gap between Geoff and new overall leader Uwais Ahmed means that first spot may be just out of reach, but with two top 5,000 finishes in his seven-year FPL career, as well as having a second Wildcard and Bench Boost chip intact, a strong run-in may well see him challenge for the crown.

While he took three hits between Gameweek 27 and 29, Geoff has only spent points once before this season, with three transfers made in Gameweek 12. This indicates he may prefer to Wildcard to set himself up for the impending double Gameweeks.

Backing Aguero with the triple captaincy in Gameweek 27, then spending a hit to tackle the reduced schedule of Gameweek 28 have helped with his success. But with 12 green arrows in a row, it is clear he has been in unstoppable form for a long time.

The secret to his success has been almost religiously sticking to a 3-4-3 formation, which he has deployed in all but four Gameweeks. He is also careful with the captaincy, trusting the armband with Sanchez and Aguero eight times each, more than any other players. So far Romelu Lukaku has been his most successful source of double points, averaging 27.5 points. Could it be time for Geoff to move armband allegiances?

David Meechan slips from fourth to tenth, after a torrid three Gameweeks, which saw him slip from 11,674 in Gameweek 26 to 26,867 by Gameweek 28.

A conservative approach to Gameweek 27 proved costly. While spending a hit to bring in Aguero and Sterling, he decided to save his triple captaincy chip, which contributed to a below Gameweek average points return.

Worse was to come in Gameweek 28 when he spent just one hit to bring in Lukaku and Coutinho. This still left him two players short and to add to the misery he captained Mane, who blanked, while the more popular choice, Lukaku, prospered.

Finally, David ditched the injured Bournemouth midfielder Junior Stanislas for his high scoring team-mate King in Gameweek 29, but coming after the Norwegian’s hat-trick against West Ham, his tardiness over this move will surely haunt him.

Nevertheless, David is more than capable of moving up the rankings. An 88-point haul in Gameweek 29 has already seen him shoot up to 14,564. He also has a full suite of powerful chips with the second Wildcard, Bench Boost and Triple Captain still to be used.

In addition, he has the pedigree to prosper with two top 1,000 finishes across his ten-season career.

But a change of formation may be needed. He has been resolute in sticking with a 3-5-2 formation, which he has used 14 times, with the injured Sunderland striker Victor Anichebe as a makeweight. Perhaps a switch to 3-4-3, which has been used eight times, could be on the cards?

A rethink on the armband is also needed. His captains have brought him just 392 points, with Sanchez and Aguero the favoured options, despite Lukaku and Ibrahimovic being the most successful on the rare occasions they’ve been trusted.

Hall of Fame FAQ

How is my rating calculated?

The “HoF Rating” is based on your points scores from previous FPL seasons, with the latest season, weighted the heaviest and each corresponding season weighted at roughly 70% that of the previous season. So, in other words, those who performed best in 2014/15 will receive a bigger HoF Rating boost from those who did best in 2007/08. The “HoF Ranking” even allows for those with missing years, adapting the formula accordingly to allow you to rank alongside the veterans of the FPL.

How do I join the Hall of Fame
Simply sign up to our leagues next season, either the Fantasy Football Scout Classic League (see home page) or if you’re a member, the Members Classic League (see the dashboard of the Members Area for the code).

How do I find myself in the Hall of Fame?
The search box at the top of the ranking tables allows you to search by surname or by FPL id.

What if I don’t want to be listed?

Either notify us via support@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk or simply leave the Fantasy Football Scout league, and you’ll be removed on the next update.

When does the Hall of Fame get updated?

The Career table is available to all and is updated at the end of each season to display the latest rankings. The Live version of the Hall of Fame is updated every week to use the latest season data.

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2,063 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Brunt playing as a #10 tonight. Wish Pulis would use him there too.

  2. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Buckie & Easter Egg all in one 🙂

    Anger over Buckfast wine sold with Easter egg
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-39382142

    1. Numb
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      A fun way to introduce kids to drinking!

    2. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      That's breakfast sorted 😎

  3. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Just watched highlights. Why does Jamie Vardy looks like he's forgotten to wipe off all his make-up from his drag act?

    1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Black eye

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Sherlock alert

        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Elementary

  4. Numb
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Mark: "Jonty > FPL Virgin for a hit?"

    1. Diva
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      "Mark has not been afraid to spend points to maximise the blank and double Gameweeks, taking five hits between Gameweeks 27 and 29."

    2. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Good move.

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        FPL Virgin is understood to be willing to cover the "Coutinho Imminent" table if that is a deal breaker.

        1. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          That should swing it.

        2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          😆

    3. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Not for a hit.

      1. John t penguin
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I am sure there are loads of posters who automatically think of hit when they here your mentioned

  5. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Fishing for a few more views if possible.

    Team is: Heaton (Grant)
    Olsson Mawson Alonso (Baines. Coleman* out next gw)
    Lanzini Alli Mane Siggy King
    (V)ardy Costa (Lukaku)

    Do I A) Play AOA bench Olsson and start Lukaku
    Or B) Start Olsson

  6. Hall of Fame or Form?
    MTPockets
      7 years, 2 months ago

      "HOF...with the latest season, weighted the heaviest and each corresponding season weighted at roughly 70% that of the previous season"

      Taking 16/17 = 1, 15/16 = 0.7 etc that would give 06/07 relative weighting of 0.028 (approx 1/35th weight of current season). Is that right? Adjusting for total participants per season?

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Sounds right to me

        1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          This

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Close enough. It works on points scored.

        1. MTPockets
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah appreciate points/normalised etc, just seems quite skewed. Guess 70% also factors changes to total numbers each season, but wondering how correct it is to say X rank 5 years ago is necessarily easier/less meanigful than X rank today (if that's what being adjusting for).

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              It's more of a form over career HoF. A career one may be better as a "best 5 seasons" or something similar.

              1. Diva
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 2 months ago

                A Hall of Fame really should be based on career performance.

                1. Qubit
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 2 months ago

                  agreed, i think my real problem is in the title over the apparent function. The title suggest a record of acheivement sort of thing whereas its actual claimed function seems to be as some kind of form indicator.

                  1. Scratch
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Agree 100%

                2. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 2 months ago

                  That would just mean the more seasons = better in HoF.

                  1. Diva
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    No, like Sigurdsson Kane astutely points out, the problem is calling a form table a Hall of Fame. The NFL don't enter someone into Canton on the basis of a couple of good seasons. A good history is required.

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      How many seasons are needed?
                      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/entry/1751/history is top 100 in his 4th season with a great start to his career.
                      RMT Professor should be here for these questions 😆

                      1. Diva
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        That FPL manager is like Harry Kane, he's had a great start to his career and if he keeps it up he will be in the Hall of Fame. But I wouldn't put Harry Kane in a Football Hall of Fame just yet.

                        1. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          If I could take 1 persons rank next season, it would be his over someone who had a better "career" in the way you are saying.

                          1. Diva
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            That's fine. I'd pick Kane over Pele if I was a football manager looking to win a Premier League match today, but I'd pick Pele over Kane if I was putting together a Hall of Fame today.

                3. fedolefan
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 2 months ago

                  Number of players have also increased. Think it's fair that recent seasons get more weight compared to previous ones given more competition and the increased spoon-feeding.

                  1. Diva
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    But the HoF is based on points, not rank, so the number of players isn't a big factor. And if "spoon-feeding" has increased, that's an argument against giving more weight to recent seasons.

              2. MTPockets
                  7 years, 2 months ago

                  You refer to '12 years ago' below. Implies 1/72 weight vs current.
                  72x harder/more meaningful to achieve a given points/rank today?

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Is winning FPL 12 years ago relevant to FPL today? You should be getting good ranks for the next 11 seasons if it is.

                    1. MTPockets
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Very relevant if it's a best-ever-player measure. Not so much if it's a best-player-today measure.

                        1. TorresMagic™
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                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          One season wonder measure if the next 11 seasons aren't that good. Ville Ronka has the real consistent rank measure on here as he has never been over 5K.

                          1. MTPockets
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              If you have the methodology, try hypothetical consecutive 1st rank for the first 3 seasons of fpl followed by retirement and I reckon HoF rank will still be fairly rubbish.
                              Anyhow it's cool, just doesn't measure what I thought it measured.

                              1. TorresMagic™
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                                • 14 Years
                                7 years, 2 months ago

                                Very hypothetical. If you don't play, your rank is assumed to be terrible.

                        2. Qubit
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          FPL seems most commonly won by someone with little to no FPL experience/good record, and they often don't go on to do well again either.

                          The comparison is slightly spurious, a comparison to someone who finished well say for 2/3 years back then, but didnt win it would be more relevant - and yes i would expect them to be capable of doing well.

                          1. Epic Fail
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 13 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            Possibly due to people having multiple teams. So it only seems that they have no experience, when chances are they have been playing for years but their winning team is one of many multiple teams.

                            1. Qubit
                              • 14 Years
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              Sometimes, although you also do see people right up there with truly terrible previous rankings for years, not just new teams.

                            2. Qubit
                              • 14 Years
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              Again thats just another reason why someone with clearly just 1 team with good performances shouldn't be punished for their bad ones.

                              Personally i own my bad years, they spur me on to do better next time. 🙂

                        3. Qubit
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          Sorry TM, not having a go at you or even the system really. Just an interesting topic to discuss 🙂

                        4. Qubit
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          actually, when did FFS start - you could argue that pre-scout finishes are worthy of more consideration as they are likely just on individual merit.....

                          1. TorresMagic™
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 14 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            If they can't get decent ranks now, they hardly deserve a spot?

                            1. Diva
                              • 9 Years
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              So you'd kick Pele out of a football hall of fame because he can't play top flight football now?

                              1. Cheeseoid
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                7 years, 2 months ago

                                Boom!

                              2. MTPockets
                                  7 years, 2 months ago

                                  It's a hall of form.

                                  1. Diva
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 years, 2 months ago

                                    Exactly, call it that and we don't have a problem.

                                • TorresMagic™
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • Has Moderation Rights
                                  • 14 Years
                                  7 years, 2 months ago

                                  He wouldn't be registered in FPL so isn't eligible 😛
                                  No FPL ID.

                              3. Qubit
                                • 14 Years
                                7 years, 2 months ago

                                Not what i meant, i merely meant those rankings back then could be argued to worth more not less (or at least not 1/72), not whether they had decent rankings in between, which would obviously affect any ranking. 🙂

                        5. MTPockets
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            * Actually you said 'form'. Makes more sense then, although not really historical best-of measure.

                    2. Numb
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      30% per year does seem a bit too much of a discount. Maybe 20% (80% multiplier) would feel fairer to me. It's too weighted to current season imo.

                      1. Qubit
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        I think something like 80-90% would be fine, perhaps bottoming out at the equivalent of say 25% (still think thats too low).

                        Also, following on from that, surely the dilution factor for the earliest seasons continues to get greater and greater as the number of years goes up since the HOF inception (so as to be essentially valueless). Was this intended?

                        1. Diva
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          If a football Hall of Fame worked the same way as the FFS Hall of Fame, Pele would barely register by now and Maradona would be slipping down the rankings.

                          1. Qubit
                            • 14 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            Yeh, well they were clearly both useless. Bendtner is obviously much better than either for example......

                  2. Qubit
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Ive understood it to be that. Seems a bit daft to me if that is the case. As I said earlier in the thread, im not sure Chelsea's 2015 title is worth that much more than their 2005 one for example.

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      The 2005 team would get relegated if they played now. 😉

                      1. Qubit
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        yeh they were useless 😉

                        i understand the argument that its some kind of measurement of form of a manager, i just don't agree with it as a particularly useful measure 🙂

                        1. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          Much harder to win FPL now than 12 years ago.

                          1. Numb
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            Makes no difference if it's based on points not rank though

                            1. TorresMagic™
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 14 Years
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              If you can't score similar points in current seasons then it's just a "Leicester" season.

                              1. Numb
                                • 9 Years
                                7 years, 2 months ago

                                I'm more of an Arsenal myself 😆

                                1. Diva
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 years, 2 months ago

                                  😆

                          2. Qubit
                            • 14 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            i don't think its *much* harder to do well, but yes there are more players now (and sites like this). Still think 70% is excessive though.

                            1. Numb
                              • 9 Years
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              Agree.

                            2. Ryan
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 12 Years
                              7 years, 2 months ago

                              Yeah there is merit to the idea of reducing the gap between seasons

                  3. Syd.
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Always wondered why my rank was so low this explains everything

                  4. Amateur Pundit Zan
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    It works like the cricket player rankings which are obviously (sustained) form based but dont show the greatest of all time as players like Bradman and Tendulker would be top of that.

                    GOAT across sports is mostly subjective and not formula based and the same applies here, though given the short time span of FPL and the players who could be considered GOAT have all been playing at the same time, the HOF wont be too far off but a bit more volatile to latest seasons.

                  5. Rhinos
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Shouldn't compare fpl hall of fame with real sports because it isn't one, better off comparing it to WWE, and Donald Trump is in that one. Rest my case

                  6. Ryan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    The point of the HOF is to find out who the best current day FPL players are. If there was a great FPL player 7 or 8 years ago but they are no good now then I simply don't care about them.

                    1. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      And I'm far more interested in those with a consistently good record than a one season wonder who might be winning this seasons FPL

                    2. Rhinos
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Define best though, it's a lot easier in real sports because everyone wants to achieve the sane goals give or take. Roger Federer is never gonna not try win Wimbledon coz he'd rather beat his mate in a home game

                      1. Ryan
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Best is based on the current formula for the HOF. Best over recent seasons

                  7. Get up ya bum
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    The weighting makes no sense to me. If you want to find the best rather than whos in the best form there should be no weighting at all.
                    I think the weighting has more to do with traffic than finding the best. Maybe I'm too cynical.

                    1. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      It's about finding the current best. Not a past FPL great that has long retired, what would be the point in that?

                  8. John t penguin
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    So long a discussion about a made up competition based on made up competition based on made up management.

                    1. Rhinos
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Hof no1 a fairytail story

                  9. Rhinos
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Of course the main reason hof is daft is that in all real sports 99% of players would want to make it in there whereas Id imagine 95% of fpl players have never even heard of it

                    1. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Of course it would be better to have all involved but what can you do, have no ranking system? Boring

                  10. A.T
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Perhaps the solution is to have both, a hall of fame and a hall of form.

                    1. John t penguin
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      hall of foam

                      1. Christina.
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Have you heard of Nirvana?

                        1. Rhinos
                          • 10 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          Smells like teen spirit

                    2. Now I'm Panicking
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Yes - I think the "hall of form" should only be over the last 3 to 5 seasons (so it will be faster moving and gives newer players the chance to climb these rankings quicker), and a separate "hall of fame" should reflect GOAT-ness and be a lot slower moving.

                      1. TopMarx
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        A form HoF and a HoF that takes no account of form would be good. I mean a manager who had four terrific seasons but stopped playing a few years ago should always be in the HoF. Plus other HoFs in real world scenarios don't rank people do they?

                        The boxing HoF is just a list not a ranking system. It also inducts boxers even if they lost fights. Essentially boxers are added for a period of excellence in their careers, very few boxers are undefeated or don't fight on too long.

                  11. TopMarx
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    I think changing the percentage to 80% for instance will favour players like Ville even more, which you could argue is as it should be.

                    What isn't taking into account is if someone had a poor season, which may be due to reasons outside of fantasy football such as getting married, having a kid, changing jobs, death in the family, moving house (the big things in life!). Or perhaps you simply started your first season late and therefore got a poor rank. Would a system that discounts a manager's worst season be fairer?

                    There's the Live HoF and the Career HoF, which is sort of current form vs historical form. I see the Career HoF as a better indicator of who the best managers are. Managers can have up and down seasons, Ville was outside the top 100K as recently as Gameweek 20 and all in the career HoF top five look like they will finish strongly. But ultimately any FPL manager in the upper echelons of either Live or Career HoF is doing pretty well!

                  12. tm245
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Am late to the conversation but a true Hall of Fame wouldn't negatively punish someone for one offseason among several amazing ones. I would argue the ability to adapt to changes in the competition or a bad performance personally might be a clearer sign of greatness than one who can ride a wave for the past few years.

                    Maybe a minimum of five or six years and then selecting the overall best among them would be a more accurate way to measure long term greatness.

                  13. Geoff
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    I've made a huge push this year, absolutely massive jump, and it feels great to be so high. I've had three good seasons but the two before that were average.

                    BUT I'd like to see two options in the HOF: one as it is now and one that doesn't discount past seasons as much. That said, as others have said above, people shouldn't be punished too much if they haven't played say more than 5 seasons. Maybe have a HOF that looks at the past 5 seasons and balances them more evenly

                  14. Back on the horse
                    • 13 Years
                    5 years, 8 months ago

                    It can't be that hard to have a dynamic table where a user can change the discount for previous years (to 0% if desired) and change the numbers of years to look back upon (from all to, say, last 3 years). In fact there are others I see on Twitter that are doing this already, so FFS HoF is becoming less relevant... As is FFS as a whole, some might say.

                • jnglizt
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 2 months ago

                  Will Funes Mori be getting more game time with Coleman out? I was gonna ship him for Valencia but may hold if he is likely to start again

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Possibly. FM owner and don't expect much but 2 hard games makes him an option.

                  2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Feeling is Holgate will be the one to benefit

                    1. jnglizt
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      true. I have got FM but was gonna ship him this week but might just wait and see how it pans out

                • RubberDucky
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    So (a) Walker or (b) Valencia for Coleman?

                    1. Bruin
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Walker for me

                  • CloudSky
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Kampl going to ruin Scotland tonight.

                    1. Syd.
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Sturgeon has already done that

                      1. CloudSky
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        😀

                      2. Jafooli
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        😆

                    2. Pariße
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I doubt it. He runs the show when he plays in the national team, but the manager's an idiot (and I'm not even joking).

                  • Jafooli
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Here you go Fedolefan:

                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fV3LsGmIZn8

                    Check out LvG slumped in door way in final scene 😀

                    1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Probably consumed one of those Buckie eggs

                      1. Jafooli
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        😛 or two....

                    2. Ógie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      😆

                    3. fedolefan
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Thanks.

                    4. fedolefan
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Hah, LVG. That is so good.

                  • vandebeek
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    With whom to replace Coleman, if I already have Alonso,Davies, Valencia...?

                    1. Speédy
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      bertrand/yoshi/cedric

                  • Lawrø
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Evening chaps 🙂

                    At those playing Norweigan fantasy football, are you planning on going 3-5-2 or 3-4-3? The 3-5-2 looks much more viable than in FPL to me... plenty of strong mids

                    1. Speédy
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      4 at the back for me,lots of high scoring defs last season

                      1. Lawrø
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Rudd and at least one of Parr/Vilsvek seems essential. Then you also have Hedenstad/Meling from RBK... I'm not overly impressed with the 5m-5.5m bracket... Kirkeskov could be interesting

                    2. Team Cruel
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Might go 442. Fourth defender looks so much more tempting than eight attacker.

                      1. Team Cruel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        seventh attacker*

                      2. Lawrø
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Really?!? I'm a newbie to this but I've been reading a fair bit about it today... Pederson, Sigurdarson, Njie, Diatta(!), Mjelde and Udoji all intrest me as mid-low priced options

                    3. Qubit
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      4-3-3

                    4. Team Cruel
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      There's a community article btw. Do join us there.

                      1. Lawrø
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Wow, good work. I'll give it a read now 🙂

                    5. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Maybe even 4-4-2. That or 3-5-2.

                      1. Lawrø
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Thanks chaps, surprised at the amount of 4 at the back teams...

                    6. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Looking for 4 at the back definitely. Cant decide on 4-3-3 0r 4-4-2, probably will end up with 4-4-2

                  • Jafooli
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Anyone here still own a shell suit?

                    1. Syd.
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      No just a birthday suit

                      1. Epic Fail
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Link?

                    2. Optimus.
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Yes but I'm a bit big for my TMNT outfit now

                      1. Syd.
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Always knew you were an artist of some kind

                    3. Qubit
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      still? try never.

                      1. Jafooli
                        • 12 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Snob 😀

                    4. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Wearing she'll suit trackies right now 😆
                      Very comfortable home wear

                    5. Ógie
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Hugo Boss suit or noting

                      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Remember the £200 Gucci/Armani/La Coste suits. Cringe

                    6. John t penguin
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Did you read about Scottish muay ti boxer who died in Thailand training in one

                  • sk018
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    A) Valencia
                    B) Walker

                    1. Syd.
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      A

                    2. HurriKane
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      B. Valencia has 9 games in april.. he'd definitely play both el quarter ties as mou would want to qualify for cl.

                      so he;s likely to be rested for couple of league matches

                    3. Cars and Mané
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      B

                    4. Bruin
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      B

                  • Virgil Hilts
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Anyone doing Coleman > Bertrand tonight to avoid possible 0.2 price swing?

                    Seems safe enough?

                    1. Syd.
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Not me

                      I like a bit of swinging

                    2. Numb
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Forget value now.

                    3. Epic Fail
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      It's not safe. There's almost a whole week left.

                  • Jonny Sutt
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Captain choices anyone?

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      When in doubt, Lukaku.

                    2. Jonny Sutt
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I'm on Vardy radical or alli

                      1. Jonny Sutt
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Radical? Tadic sorry

                        1. We Will Klopp you
                          • 7 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          I would reconsider if even autocorrect considers a Tadic pick radical...

                    3. Syd.
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I've 16 choices

                      1. Jonny Sutt
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Decision then

                    4. Gregor
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Was on Sigurdsson pre knock talk.

                    5. UnitedFan
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Lukaku or Sanchez for me

                      1. Jonny Sutt
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Tough fixtures

                        1. UnitedFan
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          Great form for Lukaku and City don't have a great defence

                    6. Jonny Sutt
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Feel like vardy and tadic are great differentials that could easily deliver will great home fixtures

                    7. Cars and Mané
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I don't really know at the moment. Probably Sanchez or Aguero.

                      1. Jonny Sutt
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        0-0

                        1. Cars and Mané
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          I don't see Arsenal as capable of a clean sheet right now. But that would be a nightmare for me.

                          1. Jonny Sutt
                            • 9 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            Not off set pieces for sure

                        2. fedolefan
                          • 9 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          6 points for my captain in that case. I've had worse scores.

                    8. Individual
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Considering a punt on Mahrez

                      1. Jonny Sutt
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Decent shout

                    9. VFORVANDETA
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Going Kun.

                    10. Space Cadete
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Siggy if fully fit.

                  • Jet5605
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Some help would be great guys. 2 FT and Nil ITB. Planning to do Phillips > Alli next week but which moves to make this week-

                    A - Coleman & Aguero > Fuchs & Vardy
                    B - Coleman & Aguero > Fuchs & Deeney
                    C - Other?

                    Heaton - Pick
                    Brunt - McAuley - Coleman - Mawson - Amat
                    Sanchez - Siggie - King - Mane - Phillips
                    Kun - Lukaku - Carroll

                    1. UnitedFan
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      A out of those

                    2. Cars and Mané
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I would definitely downgrade Coleman.

                      But I'd hang on to the other transfer and do Aguero to Ibra next week personally. Saves you a likely transfer down the road and Aguero could do well vs Arsenal.

                    3. Individual
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      A of those, be tempted to get Cedric or Yoshida in rather than Fuchs, though

                      1. Jet5605
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        I really don't trust Saints defence without VVD though. With Gabbi out there is a lack of assists too.

                  • Individual
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Evening all,

                    Considering Coleman replacements and have been thinking Toby could be a good replacement - ML rivals have Walker, so I don't want to cover. Really good fixtures and if injury free surely worth owning long term.

                    Worth considering? Or is Valencia the obvious choice to come in?

                    Thanks!

                    1. Epic Fail
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      He's worth considering and Valencia is the obvious choice.

                    2. Cars and Mané
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I'd definitely prefer a Spurs defender to Valencia. However, Walker is the one for me. I get wanting to differentiate, but he is the best.

                      1. Individual
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Agreed, but there's no point getting Walker for me if I'm going to catch ML rivals. Hence why I'm thinking Toby. Cheers!

                    3. Scratch
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I'm going Valencia

                      2 home games followed by Sunderland, then a DGW after Chelsea

                      1. Individual
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Yeah that's pretty damn compelling haha... Good comment.

                    4. dhamphiir
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Toby has not been goal threat like last season. Rather get Vertonghen than Toby if you want differential
                      Rose might be back in few weeks

                      1. Individual
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Yeah.. maybe I'll wait to jump on Rose when he's back in the side, and get Valencia in for now.

                  • John t penguin
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Think it is safe to bring england players in now to fpl team?

                    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I can't find England in the Transfer section in FPL

                    2. Diva
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Safer

                    3. Epic Fail
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      They can still get injured.

                    4. Hooky
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Wait till the end of the Scotland game

                  • VFORVANDETA
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Gtg? 1.2itb

                    Heaton

                    Alonso Valencia Bertrand

                    Mane Alli Siggy King

                    Costa Lukaku Kun(c)

                    Grant Yoshida T.Caroll McAuley

                  • Sweetboi
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    a) Coutinho > Tadic

                    b) Coutinho > Eriksen

                    c) Coutinho > Pedro

                    d) Keep Coutinho

                    1. UnitedFan
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      B

                    2. Individual
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      B

                    3. Cars and Mané
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Keep Coutinho this week I reckon, then B next week.

                    4. Sweetboi
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Cheers all.

                  • Scratch
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Who would you play between

                    Baines: penalties in a Merseyside derby
                    or
                    Snodgrass: Hull and should start given WH injuries

                    1. UnitedFan
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I'd always start Baines

                      1. UnitedFan
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Hull aren't as easy a fixture these days

                        1. Scratch
                          • 14 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          True, and Hull were all over them earlier this season in the game they somehow lost
                          Can't see Everton keeping a CS though. Lukaku could snatch penalties too now that Lukaku is in pole position for the golden boot.

                          1. UnitedFan
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 2 months ago

                            I'd still go Baines, but it's up to you

                    2. Individual
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      I'd fancy Snoddy vs. old club tbh

                    3. Sweetboi
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Snoddy

                  • Individual
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Scouts, any ideas when RMT will be updated?

                    Thanks!

                    1. Hooky
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Jinswick updates his RMT on every article. Maybe he would know?

                    2. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Probably after the internationals.

                      1. Individual
                        • 10 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Makes sense, thanks TM.

                  • KUNingas
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Hi. GTG?

                    Pickford
                    Alonso, Valencia, Walker
                    Sanchez, Alli, Firmino, Siggy, Lanzini
                    Lukaku, Llorente

                    Grant, Holebas, Brunt, Anichebe

                    1. UnitedFan
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      GTG

                  • Team Cruel
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Brunt assist

                  • La Roja
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Wardinho goal

                  • dhamphiir
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    The international break in a gif

                    https://m.popkey.co/e48778/z9Xo7.gif

                    1. Hooky
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Is that Shilton in goal?

                  • Team Cruel
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    King dead

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Back?

                      1. Team Cruel
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Yup. Got a knock from McAuley's elbow.

                  • Team Cruel
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    McAuley elbowing King. Mark's team fighting each other.

                  • Lucky_Z
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 2 months ago

                    Roy Carroll is still in Northern Ireland's squad. Dinosaur.

                    1. We Will Klopp you
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      He's from the same species as big Gareth Mcauley

                    2. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Northern Irish and Italian players last forever

                      1. Hooky
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        Similar weather and diet

                    3. John t penguin
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 2 months ago

                      Loved him on record breakers

                      1. Diva
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 2 months ago

                        If you want to be the best, you've got to beat the rest...

                        Hey, JTD, I have an idea I'd like to run past you. Would you mind dropping me a line at Kurt-Grohl@gmx.com?

                        Cheers!

                        1. Cheeseoid
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          That just rolls off the tongue

                        2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                          • 12 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          Yes please

                        3. George Sillett
                          • 8 Years
                          7 years, 2 months ago

                          Poetic. Go on JTD .