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The Community Round Up

The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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2,626 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Ozil or Coutinho?

    I'm tempted by both and the money I save by getting Coutinho means I can get Monreal instead of Per who is good for two weeks unless he nails a spot

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This isn't even a question.

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I expect Ozil's output to skyrocket when Sanchez
        And Lacazette are playing together however.

        1. Licky
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Lacazette off to PSG? So soon?

    2. The Legend Squad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho. What. A. Goal!

    3. chaboi1998
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ozil for me

    4. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Already going against Per after all the bigging up live been giving him the last few days.

      Classic 😀

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He's a short term solution to my 5.0 defender problem as I already have Daniels and Cedric and want to monitor Mcauley's fitness.

        An extra .5 would solve my problem but Ozil looks very good and isn't a rotation risk

        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          But you are (or were) certain Per is "nailed" so just keep Per and ace yourself the 0.5m. Easy.

          1. Waxys
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I made it clear so many times that Per is nailed for the first two games as Koscielny is suspended.

            After that I don't think he will start ahead of Koscielny he may idk but I can only gurantee the first two gameweeks

            1. Smurf
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              You can't even guarantee that as even with theee at the back it could easily be Holding, Mustafi, Monreal.

    5. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The last one that scored.

      Pre-season rules.

  2. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Never EVER go against ownership

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Baaaah.

    2. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Assuming David Luiz is your top defender then?? 😀

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Nope lol

        You need to be selective

        Btw have you started your own FPL help website?

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Ah ok I see.

          Yep, been running for a few months now mate. Blog and pod

          1. PvA
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Ahhh right fair play mate

            How is it going so far?

            1. Individual
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Well! Enjoying it

  3. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Don't think Karius will be featuring much in the league this season.

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mignolet is better

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No question

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I blame Carragher and Neville. 😆

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I blame a general lack of talent 😉

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I blame peoples expectations

  4. 3050MIF
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Foster - Fabianski
    Lindelöf - Azpilicueta - Cedric - Francis - Trippier
    Sterling - Alli - Willian - Tadic - Loftus-Cheek
    Gayle - Lukaku - Lacazette

  5. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I have Kane, which premium mid should I go for?

    a) Mane

    b) Coutinho

    c) Salah

    d) Alli

    1. chaboi1998
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. 3050MIF
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      D

    3. Coys96
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

    4. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alli first, and then Coutinho.

    5. The Legend Squad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      C

    6. Licky
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      D

  6. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Double United defence inviting?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I wouldn't. But yeah fixtures are very nice I've heard
      worse things on here

  7. Netley Lucas
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Ah Remy's on for CHE...

    1. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The forgotten man. Bad injury really. Shame. He should never have joined them in hindsight. Better as a big fish in a small pond (when fit)

  8. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Should be 4.

  9. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Silmani is class, he should play much more than he did last season

    1. Castiel
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Hasn't he been linked with Newcastle? Agree he'd be a tempter if getting regular minutes

  10. Individual
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Too.. many... bandwagons..

  11. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Salah even nailed on? Surely it'll be he usual cout, mane and firm front 3 like last season?

    1. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho a little deeper, but with the freedom to roam. But there will be rotation.

    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho in the midfield 3 behind Salah, Firmino & Mane.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Phil will play in midfield.

    4. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho at CM

    5. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers lads.

  12. tm370
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How is it looking?

    Foster
    Trippier, Lindelof, Cedric, Kompany
    Coutinho, KDB, Willian
    Kane, Lukaku, Gayle

    Elliot, Carroll, RLC, Mariappa.

  13. SmackMyBilicUp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    De Gea
    Alonso / Milner / Trippier
    Couthino / sane / lanzini / alllen
    Kane / morata / crouch

    What do we think?

    1. b✪mber
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Too early imo

  14. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Coutinho:

    1 goal
    1 assist
    On 3 bonus points

  15. Fantasy Gold
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Kolasainic is a tank.

    Looks clumsy

    1. makaveli123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Could and should've been a rugby player.

    2. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lol great minds (see below)

  16. makaveli123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    What is the point with a friendly match if you win with over 20 goals?

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      What's the point in anything?

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Fun Fun Fun
        Play Play Play
        Laugh Laugh Laugh

      2. makaveli123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Wow, deep. Might log off and think about that one.

  17. Coys96
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RMT

    Forster
    Trippier Cedric Lindelof Lowton
    Ozil Willian Zaha
    Kane Aguero Lukaku

  18. Kavorka
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    KDB + Kane or Eriksen + Aguero ?

    1. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Comfortably KDB and Kane.

    2. willl
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      KDB Kane obviously, but that costs more.

      1. Big P
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This, quite a bit more

    3. Coys96
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alli + Agüero??

    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      KDB & Kane all day.

    5. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      K&K

    6. The Shadow
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      K & K

      1. Kavorka
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        thanks all

  19. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Kolasinac is a tank.

  20. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Kolasinac booked.

  21. 007 [RoboKlopp]
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I'm lil bit worried for Laca, will he has good start from GW1?

    KdB or Coutinho?

    Thx you.

    1. FrankieTheGent
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kdb

    2. sentz05
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Based on what I've seen, he my not be strong enough. I'm not taking any risks on him until he proves himself.

    3. Castiel
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Largely thinking of having him as they're kicking off the league on Friday night

    4. balint84
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      will Jesus include in City starting XI?

  22. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone else feeling that Liverpool's points will be spread too much to the point they may avoid?

    I am thinking of doubling Alli and Kane instead

    Ok logic?

    1. FrankieTheGent
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Salah invalid team getting 3 goals a week is as good as say a hot and playing mkhitarayan in a team getting 1 goal a week
      I think a pool player is a must but I wouldn't double up.
      Alli , Jane double is a definite option

      1. FrankieTheGent
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        *Salah in a
        ** Alli, kane

      2. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This argument doesn't really make any sense tbh.

        Good teams spread points - there will still be better and worse options. Look at the points Mane and Coutinho managed per minutes played last season.

        You could say exactly the same about City - and quite possibly, they will be the two biggest scorers in the league.

  23. FrankieTheGent
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Kdb + jrod (my current option)
    Or
    B) Jesus + best 6 mil mid

  24. balint84
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    a, murray
    b, gayle
    c, abraham

    1. The Shadow
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      C

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Will Abraham start?

  25. The Legend Squad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    When are Spurs pre-season games? There is so much form flying around that if Kane doesn't score a few I might be tempted to skip him at the start

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ah the good old pre season wagons 😉

      1. The Legend Squad
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        The Willian wagon is flying at the moment, and I'm firmly on board

    2. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Playing PSG tomorrow

  26. 3050MIF
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Sterling + Lacazette
    or
    B) Ramsey + Gabriel Jesus (and 1.0m extra to spend)

    1. Castiel
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Think I'd be going for B there, the 1m is the clincher

  27. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Bailly the best 6m defender if I already own Trippier?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No

      1. FPL Maldini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Who then?

        1. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          An attacking defender like Kolasinac he plays wing back

          1. Heytch
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            i'm sorry but Kolasinac is awful.

            where's that post about season predictions, as i'm definitely predicting him to be worst signing.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If not him, Kompany

    3. Bambi
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes imo

    1. FPL Maldini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I am avoiding them for this reason and the fact the points will be so spread

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I think i will have to do the same. Not an easy decision to make however

    2. The Legend Squad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho so integral to Liverpool, maybe he'll be immune from rotation?

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe but Klopp has given no indication this is the case.

    3. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      But its Coutinho, he makes them tick

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Liverpool are in champions league now they will need him those matches

  28. liquidfootball
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Foster - Elliot
    Lindelof - Ake - Trippier - Mee - Cedric
    Alli - Sanchez - Chadli - Carroll - Can
    Lukaku - Kane - Solanke.

    Probably gone a bit top heavy, Sanchez out for DeBruyne and balance the midfield up a bit....

  29. MB10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Marcos Alonso or Willian ?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Willian only if he is nailed

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Both that's what I have in latest draft