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Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Mid-Price Midfielders

This evening brings part six of our ongoing analysis of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Player List. Having previously rolled out articles on Goalkeepers, Budget, Mid-Price and Premium Defenders, we brought you the lowdown on Budget Midfielders yesterday evening. This time, we move up a bracket and cast an eye over what’s on offer from the mid-price midfielders.

Mikel Arteta will be hoping to benefit from the Bonus Points System introduced by the FPL this term, with his all-round contribution seemingly favoured by the new scoring metric. With spot-kicks also in his locker, the Spaniard is favourably priced at just 7.0 but is likely to be overlooked for the more explosive options elsewhere in the Gunners midfield. Jack Wilshere also has the potential to be a bargain. Coming in at 6.5, he’d be a steal if he is handed the role in “the hole” at the expense of Tomas Rosicky, though Wilshere’s versatility may see him drop deeper alongside Arteta in the double-pivot. Much also depends on his game time, with Arsene Wenger perhaps keen to court caution over his ongoing ankle problem, while his manager’s movements in the summer transfer market may afford us a clue as to where Wilshere will be fielded next time out.

There are a handful of options in the mid-price bracket at Chelsea but a lack of guaranteed minutes makes any of the more attack-minded alternatives no more than a punt. While Ramires looks a relatively secure starter at 6.5, there are far better Stamford Bridge alternatives in the premium bracket to consider than the Brazilian. Similarly, Marco Van Ginkel (6.0), Victor Moses (6.5) and Kevin de Bruyne (7.0) would all have the potential to flourish as first-team options elsewhere but are up against it in their attempt to nail down a regular role – giving them an initial wide berth looks the safest option here until we get a firm idea of Jose Mourinho’s plans.

Kevin Mirallas looks the likeliest Everton midfielder to benefit from Roberto Martinez’s arrival on Merseyside. If, as anticipated, the new man in charge opts for a 3-4-3, the Belgian should line up on the right of the front three, affording us a real out of position prospect over the season ahead. While Steven Pienaar should be handed the role on the left, Mirallas’ eye for goal is clearly superior and more than atones for the fact he comes in at 7.5 to the South African’s 7.0 – he scored six times in 23 starts last term compared to Pienaar’s six goals in 35 starts. Providing he remains injury-free, then, Mirallas seems the most enticing option from the blue half of Merseyside, with Leon Osman (6.5) likely to be fielded in a central midfield berth under the new man in charge.

Damien Duff is the most secure option on the Fulham flanks, though the winger is subsequently the most expensive at 6.0. Duff chipped in with three goals and seven assists in 2012/13 but if any of the Cottagers cheaper alternatives can cement a role out wide, he is likely to be overlooked. Indeed, with Dimitar Berbatov priced at just 7.5 up top, it’s more than likely that the Bulgarian will be the main recipient of Fulham attention in 2013/14, having notched 15 times last time out.

The arrival of Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto looks to have put paid to Stewart Downing’s consistency of starts at Liverpool. Both Downing and Alberto come in at 6.0 but with Aspas and Philippe Coutinho expected to be handed the wide roles, neither of the former two look legitimate options and seem highly unlikely to cement regular roles. Similarly, Jordan Henderson (6.0) forced his way into the first XI as the previous campaign unfolded but should fall down the pecking order in light of new summer acquisitions, with Rodgers still likely to spend big money on a replacement for the role in “the hole”, having missed out on Henrikh Mkhitaryan earlier this summer.

Man United’s failure to present us with a viable midfield option last season has seen many of their assets take a real tumble in price. Nani, Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young all come in at a mere 7.5 after producing a measly two goals between them across the entirety of 2012/13. The wing roles are up for grabs under David Moyes, then, and with new boy Wilfried Zaha (6.5) also throwing his hat into the ring, Fantasy managers will be keenly assessing the pre-season situation, with the potential of real value should Moyes help his wide wen rediscover the form of seasons gone by. While Michael Carrick (6.0) may benefit from the new Bonus Points System and is the more secure starter, there are better attacking options available elsewhere for those shopping on a similar budget.

Hatem Ben Arfa is the most enticing of a trio of Frenchman plying their trade at Newcastle. While Yohan Cabaye (6.5) and Moussa Sissoko (6.0) are cheaper than the 7.0 priced winger, both should be fielded in a more withdrawn position, with Ben Arfa likely to be handed a place on the right of a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. Granted, Cabaye does have a share of set-pieces and corners to fall back on but Ben Arfa’s more advanced role is the most appealing – providing he can steer clear of injury, of course. With home games against West Ha, Fulham and Hull in addition to trip to Villa in the first five, the opening schedule looks kind for the Magpies – Sissoko will be hoping Alan Pardew grants his recent request to be moved back into “the hole” behind a lone forward, though.

Robert Snodgrass is the standout option at Carrow Road. Despite finishing in the top 10 midfielders in his debut Premier League season last time out, the former Leeds man remains firmly in the mid-price bracket, with a cost of just 6.5 looking a real bargain. Snodgrass is cheaper than new forward Ricky Van Wolfswinkel (7.0) for the Canaries and has three strong home games (EVE, SOT, AVL) and a trip to Hull in his first five fixtures. Both Adam Lallana and Gaston Ramirez will set you back 6.0 after average seasons in 2012/13. While Lallana is boosted by a share of set-pieces and corners, Ramirez will be desperate to show his true class after managing just five goals and four assists in his first year in the Premier League – the Uruguayan may face competition for our attention at St Mary’s, though, with Jay Rodriguez similarly priced up front and already in top form over pre-season. Mauricio Pochettino’s side have seven very favourable home games (SUN, WHM, CPL, SWA, FUL, HUL, AVL) to further the appeal of their main protagonists.

Mark Hughes’ arrival at Stoke could be set to reinvigorate Charlie Adam’s Fantasy potential. The Scot started just 22 times under Tony Pulis in 2012/13 but is set to be installed at the heart of the new manager’s midfield – at 6.0, with a monopoly on set-pieces and corners, Adam’s creativity will be key for the Potters next time out. Jon Walters is a little more expensive at 6.5, though it remains to be seen just how Hughes views the Republic of Ireland international. The new man in charge is looking for a more attacking brand of football and may well opt for a more natural striker alongside Peter Crouch up top as he attempts to improve on a record that saw Stoke score just 34 times in Pulis’ final season in charge.

Paolo Di Canio’s squad overhaul places question marks against the Sunderland starting XI over the season ahead. Certainly, new boy Emanuele Giaccherini (7.0) looks set for a regular role for the Black Cats, possibly on the left flank, though if Stephane Sessegnon’s rumoured move away from Wearside comes to fruition, the similarly priced Adam Johnson seems a safe bet on the opposite wing. Johnson finished just one point behind David Silva last season and was Sunderland’s top scorer on 146 points – while his price seems favourable, a dire run of home games, which sees Arsenal, Liverpool, United, City, Chelsea and Spurs arrive at the Stadium of Light between Gameweeks 4 and 15, may deter many until the schedule smiles that little bit kinder.

Swansea duo Pablo Hernandez and Jonathan de Guzman have both been handed 6.0 price tags after producing 110 and 127 points last time out. The main issue is the number of midfield options now available to Michael Laudrup, though; we can expect Michu to play the vast majority of matches in “the hole”, leaving four spots available for 10 players to fight for – Hernandez and de Guzman could suffer if Laudrup rolls out a rest and rotation policy, with Europa League duties also to consider this time out.

Tottenham’s formation under Andre Villas-Boas will be key as to how we assess new boy Paulinho. Many reckon a shift from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 is on the cards, with the Brazilian taking up the most advanced role and Gareth Bale moving to the flank – if such as scenario transpires, Paulinho may prove a contender for our attentions at just 7.0. Elsewhere in the Spurs midfield, Clint Dempsey and Aaron Lennon, at 7.5 apiece, will be hoping to nail down a role on the flank if Villas-Boas moves to 4-3-3 – with Sandro and Mousa Dembele likely to join Paulinho in the centre and Bale taking up one of the flank roles, it leaves a vacancy on the opposite flank ahead of an eye-catching opening run of matches.

James Morrison comes in at 6.0 after racking up 133 points in 2012/13 – second only to Romelu Lukaku for West Brom. The Scot’s role in the hole helped him rack up five goals and eight assists in Steve Clarke’s first season at the Hawthorns helm – three decent home games in the first five (SOT, SWA, SUN) suggests he could be quick out the blocks but with new boy Nicolas Anelka costing just 5.5 up top, many may opt for the more budget-friendly Frenchman instead.

Finally, West Ham’s Kevin Nolan will take up 7.0 of your budget this season after delivering 149 points in the previous campaign. Nolan’s appeal is heightened by a superb opening six Gameweeks (CAR, new, STO, sou, EVE, hul), though with his sidekick Andy Carroll possibly set to miss the start of the season with a heel problem, Nolan’s eye for goal may not quite be so in focus. If he can continue from the form that saw him rattle a hat-trick past Reading on the final day of 2012/13, Nolan has the potential for an early-season bandwagon.

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  1. @Bryan
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Déjà vu

    Boruc, Davis

    Coleman, Collins, Turner, Turner, Chester

    Bale, Michu, Hazard, Snodgrass, Aron Gunnarsson

    RVP, Berbatov, J.Rod

    Nothing flashy to see here.

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    1. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I Like it except I would downgrade snodgrass and upgrade a defender

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I'm warming to Snodgrass myself, it was only his name that put me off. Maybe downgrade Coleman to another 4.5 def like Alcaraz, Vlaar, Jenkinson, Figueroa etc and get a Westwood or Mannone to rotate with when either have a tricky fixture.

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    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Id downgrade michu to mirallas or pienaar and upgrade jrod to lambert. Hes so much better to have than jrod IMO

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  2. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Any suggestions on this midfield? Gerrard, Bale, HBA, Thomas Hazard.

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    1. 808Shadow
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      could be pretty good!

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      1. thorvaldsson
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I wanted to switch Hazard to Walcott so bad for some reason.

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I'd get someone other than Gerrard at that price. It's good otherwise

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      1. thorvaldsson
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Coutinho?

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        1. 808Shadow
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I would stick with Gerrard for pk,free kick and corner duty (at the very least while suarez is out)

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  3. Nabs Kebabs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Have not really considered RVP, first draft with:

    Boruc (Mannone)

    Turner Clyne Collins (Yanga-Mbiwa, Turner)

    Bale Walcott Mirallas Snodgrass (Thomas)

    Van Persie Sturridge J-Rod

    Thoughts?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      No City for GW 3 is a concern.

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      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        absolutely, my real team has silva and kun.

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    2. Torched999
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Similar to mine below- i like it just worried by no city coverage

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  4. Torched999
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Worried by my lack of city coverage with their fixtures!

    Boruc (4m)

    Toure Collins M.Turner (clyne chester)

    Bale(c) Wally(v) Snodgrass Mirallas (thomas)

    JRod RvP Sturridge

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Blasphemy to go without a City def and attacker methinks....atleast until the DGW is confirmed.

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      1. 808Shadow
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        City defense showed to be inconsistent last season, I wouldn't put money on them holding but 1 clean sheet out of the 3

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      2. Torched999
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        not worried by a defender at all.. they're gonna be more attacking = more vulnerable to conceding and like the guy below says- inconsistency + whose nailed on apart from kompany/hart?

        Its a jovetic or aguero that im worried about- but dunno the line up/game time they'll get

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Out of the top 6, they've got the best defence with reasonable fixtures. Under Pellegrini, they might be more attacking but for City, that translates to "attack being the best form of defence" Nastasic at 5.5 / Zaba at 6.0 are definitely worth a go.

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah just to second that, there were some posts about Pellegrini's past record defensively, and he's shown that in the past 2 clubs he's managed, their defenses both instantly improved when he came in.

            The whole "attack more" philosophy doesn't mean they'll concede more.

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      It's pretty standard in terms of an RVP build which is a good thing.

      You can't have everything if you get Van Persie. You will be short two of City, Chelsea and Arsenal. You just have to decide whether that's worth it or not.

      I'm in the no-RVP camp, but I wouldn't advise against having him. Pros and cons.

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  5. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Please rate my team.

    Castel di Sangro :

    Westwood
    Kaboul, Vlaar, Azpilicueta
    Tonev, Mirallas, Hazard, Walcott, Bale
    Long, Aguero

    Stekelenburg, Rodriguez, B. Turner, Ramage

    😉

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    1. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I wouldn't have a Palace defender in there to be honest. We sh*t at the back, can see us conceding tons unless we sign a few decent defenders

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers. I was keeping an eye on Five Year plan. They reckon though if Delaney, Gabbidon or Ramage ( think it was those 3?) get injured and ye've no replacements ye'd be in trouble. So he seems nailed-on and a very slim chance of a goal. Will hardly play him at all but he's cheap 😉

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  6. Emp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    This is the team I really want out of all my drafts:

    Mignolet, 4.0
    Coleman, Clyne, Bennet, Turner, Collins
    Hazard, Wallcott, Bale, Coutinhio, Thomas
    Aspas, Aguero, Jrod

    It's all based on the assumption thought that aspas will start whilst suarez is not there. When he comes back will deal with it then.... pie in the sky?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Why risk on Aspas when you can just pick up Sturridge?

      I'd get Silva over Coutinho with those opening fixtures. Doubling with Aguero could be a potentially fruitful risk.

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Aspas is 2m cheaper, doing well preseason and will be well matchfit for GW1 while Surridge will be finding his way back to fitness, hopefully.

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  7. TopNetFC
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    guys please RMT need help

    mignolet (given)

    mert clyne collins (turner taylor)

    Bale Silva snodgrass mirallas (thomas)

    RVP aspas Jrod

    got 1.0mil in the bank but thinking of keeping it incase of emergnency

    all thoughts and feedback well appreciated cheers

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    1. ted mcnure
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I like it- you have a sound 3-4-3, 2 natural captains, and the £1m in the bank is definitely a good strategy.

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      1. TopNetFC
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        cheers for the feedback

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    2. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Nice team, very similar to mine in fact; however, I don't like the idea of saving 1.0 when you have such a balanced team. You have players from all price brackets in all positions so I think your safe in that aspect. I would use the 1.0 to upgrade one of the defenders to Nastasic. Good job though

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I wouldnt be happy with a non playing goalie , worth .5 to upgrade to a playing one

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      2. TopNetFC
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        thanks heaps matt, however is nasty nailed on under pelegrini ? i heard lescott could share some gametime

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  8. lKalikl
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Mirallas/Lambert > Walcott/Rodriguez? Assuming the squad is balanced otherwise.

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    1. Big Fudge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Sounds like a good move, although if DGW is confirmed make it Hazard instead of Walcott.

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  9. Jrot94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Interested in the expert opinion on this. I know strikers outpaced MFs the last few years with the bonus system skewed towards goals, but with the new system that should even out a bit no? Also feels like more certainty in the MFs out of the gate. Notice that not of the experts are going super cheap at a MF( thomas appears to be main choice) but why aren't more people throwing away a striker (gayle or even someone cheaper). You can field a very strong MF in 352 formation until week 3 or 4 when you use the WC.

    I've got bale/Wally/silva (until hazard in week 4)/ mirallas/snoddy and still have money for a solid defence and two decent ( but non RVP) strikers. Am I crazy?

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    1. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      that could potentially be a good idea, but personally I don't like having a planned wildcard and with that kind of unbalance in the forward line, it would be difficult to get in a big hitter striker without taking a hit even if it's not RVP

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    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      343 vs 352 is a debate that happens every pre-season and the general consensus was that 343 was always the best bet for FPL.
      You make a valid point though, re the new BPS system.
      I'm not willing to risk a 352 from the start, however, because I don't like change and I'm a scaredy cat.

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      1. Jrot94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Lol, great note...just feels like people are betting on guys like RvW, j rod or Analka when mirallas and snoddy ( or even Morrison) feel much less risky to me?

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    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think you may have gotten it the other way round.

      Strikers are scoring more BPs under this new system than mids. Also, the simple answer is value. Thomas at 4.5m playing in the hole and given license to attack is not only cheaper than the likes of Gayle, but also more likely to score consistent points.

      Let's turn it this way. In a straight race. Who would you pick?

      Gayle - 5.0m striker for CRY
      Thomas - 4.5m attacking mid for CRY

      It's really that simple.

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Just to clarify before someone gets on my back about the BPs being more for strikers. Note the mids that are doing well BP wise aren't the traditional top scoring FPL players. They're the likes of Arteta, so it all even outs really.

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        1. Jrot94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Just helps my snoddy/ gayle vs RvW/ thomas argument no? Snoddy will do everything for them I think?

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      2. Matt
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        for the record, I believe Thomas will be playing on the wing

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      3. Jrot94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Hmmm, my read was bonus points will now factor in passing and other factors. Last few years they really went to the goal scoring ( inflating striker values)

        I actually look at a comparison more like...

        Snoddy/ gayle vs RvW/ thomas and think that snoddy is waaaaay safer

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I disagree because of team balance. Getting Gayle means that if any strikers hit form, you're outta spots to upgrade if you're running an RVP - Sturridge line.

          You have 2 extra midfield spots to maneuver with even with Thomas in.

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Also, as RCA said, the 3-5-2 VS 3-4-3 debate has raged every season, and every season the 3-4-3 comes out on top in the end. I can't see that changing this year.

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            1. Jrot94
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Thanks, never been to the site and seen the debates. Been playing for years with many decent but not some of the pros on this site

              3 years go when bonus points went by "eye test" the MFs got all the bonus points and dominated

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          2. Jrot94
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            I'm not running RVP, thinking more 9.0 and 8.5 unless Rooney or someone else emerges, plenty of flexibility to get this years benteke

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            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              True. But you only have two spots with Gayle holding it up if that's how you want to go. I know last season I really wanted Benteke, but even 3 spots didn't free me enough to ditch my Suarez - RVP - Berbatov line (in hindsight I should have ditched Berbs but the fixtures were good...)

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  10. MountainBeach
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Is alcaraz nailed on?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Not as yet. But he'll keep that 4.5m defender spot warm for me until we find out more.

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    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      It's pre-season ; impossible to answer. Martinez liked him enough to bring him with him so the chances must be quite good that he'll start him regularly.
      I think Everton will concede a plenty while bedding in so I'm avoiding their defence (including the much hyped Seamus)

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Could have Robles starting too. Not many decent 4.5m keepers, can get a few alternatives for Alcaraz and Shamey 😉

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  11. MountainBeach
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    4.5 or less def?

    Currently def is coleman Nasty Collins subs: Shaw Baker

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    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Clark, Vlaar (possible DGW in GW1), Figueroa, B. Turner, M. Turner, Cuellar, Jenkinson, Alcaraz, Hughes, Senderos. Check nailed-onability though 😉

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      1. MountainBeach
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        thanks mate appreciate it

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      2. MountainBeach
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Is baker from villa nailed on btw?

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        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Dunno, don't think so but keep an eye.

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  12. Jrot94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    There are only 2 big hitter strikers no?

    Aguero - who I cannot understand how anyone will risk 11.0 on someone who probable starts 2 of 3 games

    RVP - obviously great, but pricey

    I've got room for a 9.0 striker and another between 7.5-9.0 depending on how much I go with defence. I happen to like lambert of the gate personally, feels like good flexibility no?

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      RVP Aguero Probably Rooney Hopefully a big new Arsenal striker

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        You cant ignore city though. They the only team in GW3 with a deccent fixture , and you going to need a captain

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        1. 808Shadow
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Negredo

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        2. Jrot94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Have silva for city coverage for the first 4 weeks, i can afford Rooney with my strategy if he goes chelski and I'll believe wenger buys a big name when I see it !!

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Suarez, eventually, if he stays. Please God 🙂

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      1. 808Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        heard that. IF he stays Liverpool is going to have an explosive athletic offense

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        1. Jrot94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Tough to set a strategy for Suarez though, and his price will be down below 10 by week 10 anyway !

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      For now. The important thing to factor is that you have 1 big striker so you can easily do a straight swap for whatever other expensive striker starts doing well. This is why its a risky strategy to go with 3 medium priced strikers. It would almost immediately rule out the option of transferring in RVP if he starts to become a must have.

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  13. MountainBeach
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Snodgrass or barfa?

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      3 questions in 3 minutes.
      Stay classy San Diego.

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      1. Matt
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        😆

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      2. MountainBeach
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        alright then

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    2. Como Park Rambler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Snoddy. Better fixtures, more consistent

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  14. lKalikl
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    A Mirallas/Lambert
    B Mirallas/Berbatov
    B Santi/Rodriguez
    C Walcott/Rodriguez
    D Santi/Ruiz
    E Walcott/Ruiz

    Assuming the squad is balanced otherwise. Rank them in order please.

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    1. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      you have two B's so I'll do it in the letters they should be
      D
      A
      B
      C
      F
      E

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      1. lKalikl
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        My bad. Made a late insertion. Thanks for correction.

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  15. Cole-man of the Ca-hill
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Hi all... pls review my team..

    Jass (Boruc)
    Zaba, Collins, Johnson (Clyne, Turner)
    Cole, Mirallas, Hazard, Walcott, Snodgrass
    Aguero, Jrod, Sturridge

    What do you guys think? Good to go??

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I like it (except for Joe Cole) (and the double WH keeper/ def)

      Don't let people put you off for not having Bale (or RVP). It's your team, stick to your guns if that what you've decided to do.

      There is no guarantee that Bale and RVP will be the two top scoring FPL players this season, no matter what the 99% of posters on here will tell you.

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Well said Old Boy 🙂

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          *Old Fart 😉

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    2. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I don't think you'll survive without BOTH bale and RVP

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      1. Cole-man of the Ca-hill
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks guys.. Will change accordingly..

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  16. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    343 vs 433.

    In favour of 343
    - Historically proven
    - More flexibility in terms of finding similar priced options in case a bandwagon starts
    - Allows for more rotation options at the back

    In favour of 433
    - Defenders likely to benefit from the new bonus system
    - Most midfielders take some time to get established. Any early signs are usually false alarms (exceptions such as Michu)
    - Defenders are very well priced this season, whilst there are a few decent budget mids available too

    Usually its a debate between 352 and 343, but I'm starting to believe in 433. Thoughts?

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    1. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I favor 343 because most of your points come from offensive players (with some exceptions). But by having 3 main defenders you can splurge a little more and cover that. You can then do the same in mid and fwd line by splurging and getting some mid price mixed in. Best route IMO. Using this method I went from 200,000th something place 2 seasons ago to top 2200 last season.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Very true and hence I recognized the historical point of view.

        This season however, there seem to be limited 4.0/4.5 DEF options that are attractive enough to own. Whilst there are several top 6 defenders in the 5.0-6.0 range. Meaning you can very easily get an upgrade at the back by not investing too much.

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    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think I've only ever fielded 4 at the back when my hand was forced through injury or suspension.
      It just doesn't feel right not having 7 attackers on your FPL team page.
      They've set the game up intrinsically to favour the attacking players, so might as well have as many as humanly possible in your starting 11.
      We might thrash out the nuances every pre-season, but every post-season remains the same.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        With Baines / Vertonghen / Luiz (FKs and possibly even on penalties), you've got the potential to consider them as an attacker methinks.

        Think how playing 433 will make you feel like you're managing a real football team 😉

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I think Luiz will be in my GW1 team after Jose's recent comment. Baines and Vertonghen..not for a while.
          You'll go with 343, ENR, and you know it! 😉

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    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think we may be getting carried away with the BP thing. Here's an example using fictional stats.

      Vertonghen

      GW 1 - 12
      GW 2 - 11
      GW 3 - 14
      GW 4 - 10
      GW 5 - 10

      Total - 57

      Aguero

      GW 1 - 22
      GW 2 - 3
      GW 3 - 2
      GW 4 - 20
      GW 5 - 3

      Total - 50

      If there are goal scorers in a given game, they are likely to hoover up big returns on BPs for that one gameweek but then get abysmal returns otherwise. A slow and steady approach per gameweek will net you a few 1s and maybe even 2s but unlikely all three unless the defender scores or the team keeps a cleanie.

      Difference between total BPs and actual allocation.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Slow and steady indeed. I'll take that.

        Don't plan to captain them anyways, so no requirement of being explosive.

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    4. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Only if it includes Baines would I consider a 433. Personally I see no problem with 3 big mids, a medium priced mid and a cheap punt/bench fodder.

      I would also say that the jury is still out on whether the new bonus system will favour defenders.

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    5. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      3-4-3 switches easily to a 3-5-2 when i play with my preferred set up, one cheap mid and one cheap forward who always start and rotate perfectly.

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Who are you considering? Koren/Gayle? I considered that strategy myself till I realised I'd have a low priced unproven attacker playing every week.

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  17. Crouch Potato!
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    If Rooney ends up at Chelsea, I'm going to get him in. Under Mourinho and a fresh start, I can see him thriving there, golden boot canditate imo. Looks very possible now this move will happen. 10.5 for Rooney playing up top for a club full of quality, is a potential bargin.

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    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      10.5 for Rooney in front of that Chelsea trio is a bargain. He would score 30 goals. Let's hope he goes there; for fpl purposes + so United flop.

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      1. 808Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        lol I hate United as much as the next guy but if some of their transfer offers go through they are better off without him and that money in pocket

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        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I won't take them seriously under Moyes. I hope they fall from here to be quite honest.

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I agree, he has to play as an out and out striker, that is what he is a natural at. Also I think his real problem with staying at Utd is a positional one. Rooney doesn't want to play in midfield, he wants to score goals.It will be Moyes first mistake if he allows him to head to London.

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        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Moyes is going to mess them up in my opinion. Fans I know aren't happy with him already.

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Absolutely. He'll share set-pieces too, making him FPL gold.

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think almost everyone will get Rooney in if he goes to Chelsea.

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    4. Adderz
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Still prefer Lukaku

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  18. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    RMT #4 - Anti RVP.

    Migs - Given

    S Taylor - Clyne - Turner - Dawson - Parr

    Silva - Bale - Mata - Coutinho - Thomas

    Sturridge - Lukaku - JRod

    -Lukaku stays until Chelsea sign a CF
    -Mata will be a differential this year imo
    -Never going to use Given

    /10? 😀

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    1. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I would take Gerrard over Coutinho. Especially with suarez sitting the first few games out I would think free kick, corners, pk would go to him Otherwise I like it, Strong mid
      7-8/10

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      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Set pieces doesn't make Gerrard a better prospect than Coutinho imo. Coutinho will play in the front 3 whereas Gerrard will be sitting deep, in front of the back four. Coutinho will literally feed Liverpool's striker(s) for fun. I love Stevie (being a Liverpool fan), but from a FPL perspective, I expect Coutinho to outscore him quite comfortably.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I agree.

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  19. Geoff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Lets all make teams without using template players?

    Szczseny Speroni
    Baines Vertonghen Luiz Toure Amorebieta
    Kagawa Barfa Paulinho Pienaar Koren
    Giroud Benteke Bony

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    1. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Ha, you thought no one would reply, didn't you?

      Cech Marshall
      Agger Baines Walker Williams Demel (;))
      Santi Cazorla Yaya Toure Ben Arfa Paulinho Schurrle
      Altidore Bent Cornelius

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      1. Matt
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        that was meant to be a 😉 surrounded in brackets, obviously didn't work

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      2. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        how did i forget to include demel. I thought about yaya too, altidore and schurrle are interesting

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        1. 808Shadow
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I'm thinking altidore for my real team, He scored more in his first two years in the dutch league with a sub par teammates than suarez did with ajax

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    2. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Koren is template

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      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        do better

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    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Not bothered to make a team, but I can do one with non-template players generally:

      Baines
      Mata
      Cazorla
      Clichy
      Bony
      Pienaar
      Walters
      Giaccherini
      Fletcher
      Jarvis

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      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        i missed clichy, baines > clichy and koren > walters

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  20. Matt
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Big question that I've been debating for days:

    Mirallas + Snodgrass

    Hazard/Silva + Koren (would rotate with Thomas)

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Snodgrass, Hazard, Don't rotate two cheap mids.

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  21. halnone
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    this bring back any memories??

    http://i.imgur.com/rZcsxoP.jpg

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    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Honestly prefer that version of this week. More luck was involved in that, which made it more exciting to play. This one's a bit more predictable and technical with the distribution of a new BPS system, PPI etc

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  22. notoriousbmp
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    who should i get? coutinho or walcott

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    1. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Walcott definitely

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  23. whoracle
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Boruc - Davis
    Coleman - Mertesacker - Collins - Parr - Chester
    Hazard - Arteta - Snodgrass - Bale - Thomas
    Lambert - RVP - Berbatov

    RMT please 😀

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    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I like this. 8.5

      Perhaps Lambert to JRod and Arteta to Theo?

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      1. whoracle
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Nah. Lambert on pens and FKs.

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I like the defense actually.

      Me personally, I don''t like Arteta. Think you need someone hotter to start the season, and then maybe if he drops a bit in price, you pick him up to give you a steady stream of points.

      Needs City and Liverpool.

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      1. whoracle
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah. Lack of City/Pool cover could prove a major blow but will "wait and see" with the likes of Kun/Coutinho gw or two.

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  24. Tiki-Taka
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    RVP + Bale team:

    Mignolet / 4.0
    Collins / M.Turner / Chester / Parr / B.Turner
    Bale / Walcott / Silva / Sissoko* / Thomas
    RVP / Kone / Berbatov

    Sissoko is assuming he's offensive and not deep, will monitor in preseason and comments from Pardew, if not will be replaced with G.Ramirez/Morrison probably.

    Berbatov may be switched with Lambert, Kone may be switched with Aspas.

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    1. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I would consider Altidore as well.

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  25. MountainBeach
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Snodd or Barfa?
    and is baker from villa nailed on?

    thanks lads

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    1. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I would say snodd and I have baker on my team but I'm going to be watching as the season gets closer

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  26. the_cooler_king
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Migolet

    Baines,mert,bassong
    Bale,michu,Oscar, Morrison,kacakillic
    Jay rod,giroud

    Bench Marshall. Ward (cp), clyne, Ruiz

    I have 2.5 in the bank !!! I'm totally stuck were to invest it???

    Ideas

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    1. Tiki-Taka
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Too much £ in defence and I think it shows with the strikers in particular. Baines damages the balance of the team too much I feel. Bassong is 0.5 more than the other Norwich defenders and his goals last season just happened as opposed to Vertonghen or someone who has an eye for goal.

      Better options than Ruiz IMO, need to upgrade him. Oscar is prone to rotation (more so than Mata/Hazard id say) and Kacaniklic has potential but not sure of his gametime yet.

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    2. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Not trying to be mean but I think you should start over, your team balance is all wrong and you have players that are not guaranteed to get you points (Oscar, Morrison, Kaca, Giroud, Ruiz etc.)
      You're strikers are not as good as they could be. There are better players in Giroud's price range eg. Sturridge. Try looking around at other people's teams on here to try and get a consensus on the players that should be bringing in the points this year and players to stay away from.

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      1. the_cooler_king
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks a lot for the advice guys... Do you have opinion replacing baines with ?

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        1. Tiki-Taka
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Lots of good cheaper options, if you like the idea of an Everton def. monitor Alcaraz situation closer to the season to look if he's gonna start, he's only 4.5 Coleman at 5.0 too is a popular pick on here because he may be fielded at wingback with Martinez formation so more likely to pick up attacking points.

          Other than that W.Ham Collins is only 4.5, Nastasic if he looks to cement a role in the XI is only 5.5, but again that is a wait and see for closer to the season

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  27. TMERC187
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Please RMT. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

    Lloris, Boruc
    O'Brien, Mert, J Enrique, Evra, Chester
    Nolan, Mirallas, Walcott, Coutinho, Ramirez
    Berb, Aspas, Lambert

    1.0 in the bank

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    1. Root
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      O'Brien? 5.5m for him is a joke.

      You need a Welsh player, maybe Ramsay or Bellamy.

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      1. TMERC187
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Thank you.

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    2. the cromulent one
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Really heavy on D, and really light at fwd.
      The consensus seems to be that Lloris is overpriced, Evra is not worth getting before gw4. Beyond that obrien at 5.5 is not worth it considering the alternatives at whu - Collins for example.
      Double liverpool attack and double Southampton attack are questionable.
      All that said... it could all work out. I'm becoming wary of hewing to the template being pushed here.

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      1. TMERC187
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Thank you.

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    3. Tiki-Taka
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Way too much spent in defence. 3-4-3 formation is the way to go and get a cheaper def because midfielders/attackers are where the points are at.

      O'Brien poor since Collins is 1mil cheaper and in the same team. J.Enrique 6, Mignolet is 5.5 and whoever partners Agger at CB (atm looks to be either Skrtl or Toure) will be 5.5 max so you save another 0.5 there. Evra is too expensive IMO.

      Again your attacking 8 are all pricey, meaning in a 3-4-3 youd have £££ rotting on the bench. The midfielders/attackers are all decent picks but you need to downgrade one, preferably a midfielder.

      No Bale is going to hurt you bad, get him. You need him for captaincy option too. I'd recommend one of RVP/Aguero but this may be personal preference, I like one big striker who is reliable points scorer and another captain option week in week out.

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      1. Root
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        "Evra is too expensive"

        Disagreed. In my opinion most of the United defenders are 0.5m underpriced. Uniteds' opening fixtures are the only thing putting me off.

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      2. TMERC187
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Thank you.

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  28. the cromulent one
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Wondering if anyone else has had the same progression in their draft teams. I started out vowing not to invest any more than 4.5 on any defender or goalkeeper, preferring to stack up on heavy hitters in MF/FWD.
    But a funny thing happened on the way to the all-out attack... The more draft teams I make, and the more opinions I hear around these parts, the more that my team has shifted to mid-priced defenders, and mid-priced forwards.
    I'd like to think that it is due to my keen eye for value. But I have suspicions that it is actually because I'm an an easily-led automaton. As much as I value all the opinons on offer here, it might be better to not listen to them for the next few weeks... Forget the bandwagon. If my team is shite then I would rather it be beacause I made bad choices rather than because i blindly followed the herd.

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    1. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I think its a good idea to remember the original team you came up with then see how much it has changed after popular opinions/knowledge. I'm refusing to post an RMT but its still easy to be led by popular talk on these boards.

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      1. the cromulent one
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        That is the same reason that I haven't posted any RMTs...
        Aspas is a good example. I started out believing that he is a great option, at least until Suarez gets back. Now, nothing at LFC has changed, but voices suggesting that he is not reliable are getting into my head.

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          See I'd be one of those Aspas nay sayers but Lawro is a big fan of his. I remember our debate and he had some good points. Aspas is still a good option and you shouldn't be put off.

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I used to think this when I had what I thought was an ironclad team then changed it after reading some more insights, but it's actually progress in the long run. I look back at my old drafts and ugh my team was nasty.

      It's all good, just go with it. Make your own decisions, let those new ideas come in and fuel your own method of playing FPL.

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    3. Como Park Rambler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      My team has gone through a similar evolution, but in part, I think, that is b/c there is more value in defense this year. Between some lower starting prices for some quality defenders (e.g. Arsenal players, Coleman, a cheaper City option) and the changing BPS, FPL seems to be encouraging more investment in defense. I'm also thinking that the some ever present 4.5 MF--"little Artetas" such as Lucas and Britton--will present some value by steadily accruing BPS.

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  29. Koflok
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Here's my team so far

    Boruc - 4.0
    Kaboul - Collins - Turner - X - Turner
    Bale - Hazard - Walcott - Y - Thomas
    Aguero - Jrod - Sturridge

    X - Y :
    a) Nasty + Snoddie
    b) Mbiwa / 4.5m + Mirallas

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    1. Root
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Koscielny/Mertesacker + Snodgrass

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    2. Como Park Rambler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      4.0 goalies are a terrible idea, I think unless one becomes a nailed on starter. And, a Saints back up taking Boruc's place is one of the most likely ways that could happen.

      That said, Snoddy presents real value with good fixtures.

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      1. Root
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        What if the 4.0 goalie is Boruc's back up? Going with Boruc+Davis is a valid tactic.

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  30. Trini Chelsea
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    RMT
    Mannone,Boruc
    Clyne,Mertesacker,Alcaraz(Chester,Whittaker)
    Bale,Silva,Walcott,Ramires(Boateng)
    Rodriguez,RVP,Aspas

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    1. Root
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      8/15

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    2. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      similar to mine except I went walcott->Coutinhio and picked up baines for my backline

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