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The Scoreboard – Gameweek 37 – Wednesday

The Scoreboard presents the Fantasy Premier League information you need from the day’s matches all on one screen, including the current top five BPS (Bonus Point System) standings from each match (potential Bonus Point earners are in bold). Actual Bonus Points will be shown when added – all points are provisional until then.

Gameweek 37

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Whirl
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Looking at the history of the team with GW Rank 1. How could you even be bothered to make 148 transfers in a week?

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hahaha!

    2. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I know... Hahaha

      -477 points..

      Too many hits I think

    3. TheOneAndOnly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      he's not made a change in 7 gwks

    4. Smarty Pants
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The most ironic thing is that with GW rank 1 he'll get a red arrow this week because of the newly registered teams 😆

      1. TheOneAndOnly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        glad to see it broke the 3.5 mil mark

  2. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    28k last week 25k this week I'm gonna win fpl by gw45

    1. Jay_
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ha ha 😀

        Seriously though, good finish well done

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Cheers lad

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Nice one, Forehead!!! 🙂

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Cheers Doos. Cracking season for you 😀

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Thanks, mate! 🙂

    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Funny, GW rank updated yet overall points do not yet include today's scores.

      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If todays scores were included in overall points wouldnt that mean overall rank is updated

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Total points haven't.

          1. walkman666
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Right!

    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hi guys, some help would be much appreciated 🙂

      Team for next GW is:

      Myhill
      Terry - Rose - Ivan
      Hendo - Sanchez - Hazard - Ozil
      Kane - Aguero - Giroud
      __________________________
      Hamer: Boyd, Alderweireld, PVA

      Have 0.9 ITB and 1FT:

      Worth doing Ozil > Silva for free?
      Anything worth a -4 you reckon?

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        pretty please? anyone?

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers guys, great help as always.

        1. Test Eagles
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          PS ... you'll find there won't be heaps of support out there given it's the last game of the year!

      3. Test Eagles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Mannion - Ozil > Silva seems the logical transfer IMHO

        or

        Giroud > Ulloa / Murray for a cheeky differential!

      4. I hate Craig Gardner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Depends on how much you are ahead or behind and their team.

        Ozil to Silva looks a safe move.

      5. Chelsea Dagger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ozil > Silva best bet. I don't like double Chelsea defense for last GW, but not worth a hit

    4. CCaddy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A) garbutt silva lukaku (-4)

      B) garbutt Walcott Costa (-4)

    5. FionnMac
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      £0.9m for my last transfer of the season, Ramsey > Silva looks like the obvious one?

      XI and subs look OK too? Ta

      Schmeichel
      Terry Schlupp Kos
      Hazard Gerrard Henderson Ramsey
      Aguero(c) Benteke Giroud

      Bench - Vlaar, Cambiasso, PVA.

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You thinking Ramsey will be rested?

        1. FionnMac
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Not particularly. More that Silva has a good chance of scoring a lot of points, and this is my only way of getting him without selling Hazard. Also, Arsenal haven't scored in 3 home games, although Ramsey has been OK I think

          1. Big_Andy_GAWA
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah, Ramsey's arguably been their best player in their last two games.

    6. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      https://whichtransfer.wordpress.com

      New post, and im not happy !

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I wouldn't be either if

        4 top 1k finishes. That's pretty bloody amazing. Congrats.
        *grits teeth*

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          woops post fail. The main jist of it is a big congrats to you. You must be pretty close to all time highest HoF.
          I've had a go at you in the past on a few occasions but no better man for coming back at the haterz with proven FPL qualitty. RESPECT..

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Dullard strats are effective 😉

          2. RoysCallerAnne
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Again. Typical TL.

            So I will reply on your behalf. Thanks. But you are an unworthy worm, that continually fails to even make it into the top 10k.

            There. Sorted.

            1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              It never works out trying to make nice with ego cases. 🙂

            2. Get up ya bum
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              😆

    7. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Would be so embarrassing for Liverpool fans if Sterling end up staying. 😀

      They all have ripped him to shreads.

      Interesting times ahead.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He doesn't deserve to play for Liverpool

        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          But what if no bids come in? 😀

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Your club will place the first one! 😉

            1. pundit of punts
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              We'll see. 😀

              I hope this drags on till deadline day and we get a cut price deal. 😀

              1. GreennRed
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                He'll go to Bayern for 30m +

                Hopefully 30m + Martinez 😉

        2. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Why not? The way they get on at him, same as Torres. He'll win nothing there, unfortunately. Can't blame him if he leaves.

      2. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'm a United fan so it's pretty much my job to rip every Liverpool player to shreds.

        Very awkward if he stays having been booed off the stage and all that stuff.

    8. CCaddy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Silva lukaku

      Or

      Walcott Costa

      1. Punty
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Silva and lukaku obviously.. I'd probably have rather only Lukaku or only Silva rather than the two others combined

      2. TheOneAndOnly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A

      3. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A

      4. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        S and L

      5. Chelsea Dagger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A

    9. Hanked
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Help a brother out...

      A. Bolasie
      B. Mata
      C. Adam

      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        B

      2. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A or B

      3. Chelsea Dagger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        B

    10. Skor Hattricksson
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Can we still post smug comments about starting mane over hazard or has that moment lapsed?

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'd still be posting about it some time into 2020.

    11. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane out for Cisse, Perez, Jelavic, N'Doye, Vardy, Ulloa or An Other ?

      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ulloa not a bad shout. Or Cisse if we know he'll start. Ulloa got pens?

        1. Royal5
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          QPR dead and buried and Leicester witgout pressure and probably eager to finish in style.

          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Would you trust Ulloas recent revival over Vardy's more consistent threat ?

            1. Royal5
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Mot seen much of Leicester tbh. But Vardy is not a goal scorer, Ulloa is. I would pick him over Vardy personally.

              1. GreennRed
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Cheers.

        2. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Toon fans want Cisse to start but they think conservative Carver will start Riviere cos he scored last GW.

      2. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ulloa. Cisse seems to only play part time.

    12. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      OR updated yet?

      Or only GW rank?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        only gw

        I should go 1st by gw 45 though

        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Solid 😉

    13. CCaddy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A) vlaar

      B) huth

      C) collocini

      D) Monreal

      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        None imo

      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Are these players that you're wishing to bring in?

        1. CCaddy
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Got a budget of 4.9, these seem the best options?

          1. Royal5
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Why waste a transfer on a defender in the final GW? History shows there's very few CS in the final round.

            1. CCaddy
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Need to transfer out Skrtel to afford silva and lukaku

              1. Royal5
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Mhm..

          2. Big_Andy_GAWA
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Vlaar good choice. That game could easily finish 0-0, IMO. And Vlaar would sure to be amongst the bonus if that were to be the case. Monreal obviously not nailed on - Gibbs could again get the nod. Huth rarely scores these days, and Colo the same, plus they've not had a cleanie in weeks on end.

    14. flippetyflop
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      cazorla to ashley young and giroud to costa/benteke for a -4 look good?

      1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        No, not sure about that. Costa is not yet on form, Benteke could be rested for the cup. Not for a hit.

      2. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Watch out for ADM

    15. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      How about this:

      Sanchez, Hendo, Giroud to Silva, Mata, Lukaku for -4?

      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Why remove Sanchez?

        1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ineffectual of late, possible rest, and he helps finance the move.

          1. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I think he will play, and the other team has nothing to play for this time.

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Well, I won't take a hit.

        1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Is that just a general statement about GW 38, or about this particular proposition?

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Both. 🙂

      3. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks. I might go with Super Zlatan's Caz and Hendo to Silva and Bolasie . . .

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          That sounds better imo

    16. Jay_
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If you want to see a roller coaster season check my game week history, over 200 points worth of hits, through it all away around gw11 but finishes the season ok, am not taking anything above a 12 hit next season , that's where I messed up on the big +12 hits, 12 or below I've actually ended up with lots of greens including last 3 weeks, been a fun season 🙂

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          32 pt hit 😯

      • pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Everyone dismissing Sterling now as he's set to go for big money.

        But what about Shaw?

        When United bought Shaw for a huge amount, they were convinced because he was young,talented etc.

        Sterling being an attacking player should always go for big money than a defender(Shaw) because that has been the norm in football.

        RVP left Arsenal for a big pay packet and to 'win trophies'. So did Suarez and any more.

        Agreed they were much more talented and peak of their game when they left but everyone has their right to choose where they want to play be it for money or trophies.

        Wouldn't you quit a job if another offered you double the salary?

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'd quit for the same money 🙂

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            😆

        2. Boo Ya Ka Sha
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Shaw left a lower club for a much larger club that had a spot vacant with Evra aging = Understandable

          RVP left a club that didn't show much competitive promise and he was aging = Kinda understandable

          Sterling is an unproven player that thinks he capable of competing against some of the worlds best players for a spot in the XI. Chelsea would be a poor move. Arsenal would be an even worse move. He'd be the new Sinclair at City. He needs to go to a team where there is a spot for him or else he is truly ignorant.

          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            He is still young but was decent since he was 17.

            He'd get in the City team ahead of Navas or Nasri. Chelsea and Arsenal would be a different story for different reasons. Proven premier league player when he's played on the wing and not fkd around from forward to wingback.Bayern are interested in him apparently.

            I'd be ecstatic if he went to Arsenal for 30m and Walcott.

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I agree he'd get into the City team absolutely.

              1. GreennRed
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Hart, Silva, Aguero. The only quality players that will remain in the City team next season.

                1. pundit of punts
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  +1

                  Huge clearout on the cards.

                  1. GreennRed
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    I hope they keep Navas. Not as good as the other 3 but still a very good player who always gives his all for his team.

                    1. pundit of punts
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 1 month ago

                      Aye. Good squad player.

                      Can do a job that his manager asks him to.

                      The pace also helps late on in the games.

            2. pundit of punts
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              This.

              The way people have dismissed him has taken me aback.

              One of the top young talents in Europe.

              1. bigbudgie
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                I don't get this. What has he done to prove that? Apart from one good season when he was alongside Luis Suraez...

                To be rated as a 'top young talent' in Europe he needs to perform consistently. Not just 'have the potential'. Liverpool is the perfect club for him to start putting in those performances too.

                1. pundit of punts
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Players are 'rated' when they are not yet 'proven'. He has indeed not proven himself to be a top player as he has had only 1 proper PL season under his belt.

                  Maybe after another 2 seasons he'd be proven.

                  Liverpool as a whole have performed poorly this year. That's affected him as well.

                  A player's performance improves when he has better players around him.

                  1. AK ⭐
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 29 days ago

                    He's been poor this season. Maybe it was his happiness, but all in all, his finishing has been poor, his touches have been really poor at times and looked very overrated this season

                2. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Absolutely agreed.

          2. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            So if he goes to a club that has a spot vacant for him then that'd be alright you say. Then both Chelsea and City could be good moves as City have the RW spot vacant atm and he's do a better job than Willian at Chelsea.

            Sterling would also be a leaving 'a club that didn't show much competitive promise'.

            I think every player wants to win trophies and Liverpool don't look like winning one soon and he doesn't like the manager.

            So maybe not a bad idea for him to leave.

            1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              No player should ever be pressured into signing a new contract. It's not his fault that he doesn't want to sign, thats his decision. But he has a for sure spot at Liverpool. I don't see him breaking into the starting XI for Chelsea when they have Cuad and Willian. Not for Arsenal when they have Welbeck Ozil Sanchez Wally Ox Ramsey. Maybe City, maybe. ManU, tough for him to beat Young, Mata, Di Maria, and Depay. He'd be smart to stay at Liverpool, have a spot and less pressure, all while racking in the big bucks.

        3. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Didn't think Shaw was remotely worth that money. At all.

          Don't use the double the salary remark as it is very different when talking about a professional footballer in the PL, as no matter if he stays or goes he'll be a multi millionaire.

          Point is I didn't think Shaw was remotely worth that money, nor do I think Sterling is remotely worth 40 million or whatever crazy sum he might go for.

          1. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            That's where I disagree with you.

            You're dismissing two(Both Shaw and Sterling) of the very best young talents in Engalnd without having seen seeing much from them.

            Too early to judge that is all what I'm saying.

            Paying that money to get them may not look so bad after 5 years.

            Who'd have thought Bale would be the player that he is 5-6 years ago?

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              And you have every right to, by all means!

              Best young talent in England may not necessarily equate to best young talent in other countries who could join for a lot less money, that is where my issue is. I certainly hope Shaw works out, of course. My point is that paying nearly a superstar fee based on potential is very risky business. Yes it may come off, it may fail shockingly as well. And when there are possibly others from other countries that cost a lot less, it is very often paying purely because the player is English.

              Look at Can for example. Has had a pretty good time at Pool this season, had a good one at Bayer Lev. the season before. Signed for Liverpool for £9.75 million. Had he played for the PL equivalent of Bayer the season before, he'd have gone for at least double that if not more.

              1. pundit of punts
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                I agree with you on this one. Of course the foreign imports could be cheaper.

                But then I'd be tempted to get Sterling if he's available only for the fact that he could be the next 'Superstar'.

                Then if he doesn't turn out to be one, you could always sell him and cut your losses. He'd still go for a fair bit as he's English which you wouldn't get from your foreign import if he fails.

                So all in all I think the upside in these sort of transfers are huge and hence the big money involved.

                1. pundit of punts
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  And Sterling doesn't have injury issues as well.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    Aye and I do genuinely understand what you're saying. But for myself I couldn't say I'd be over the moon if my team spent a large portion of their transfer fees on him, simply because I think he needs a few seasons of proving it, not just one good season.

          2. bigbudgie
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Shaw is going to be an absolute beast of a player if he can stay injury free

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              And that there is my issue. The kid is 19 and we're already talking about his injuries. I think he's a great player, I really do and am very hopeful of what he can become in time, but that much money is a very big risk as well

        4. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Shaw has been injured most of the season. He started to look good when LvG played 4 at the back. He's only 19!!

          1. money face bandwagon
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I remember he played quite well against ivan.

            Time will tell whether he will do well..but this season has been disappointment and waste of money from utd..well who can predict yeah

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              He was awesome against Chelsea.

          2. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Sterling's also only 20 and an ATTACKER.

            If Shaw's price is justified then 45m for Sterling is very justifiable.

            1. tokara
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              if sterling goes City, we r right to say he is the version 2 of shaun wright philips lol

              1. pundit of punts
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                And you are basing that on what?

                Sterling could be the next Bale.

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Could be either. Bale was proven when he went to RM. Sterling has proven nothing other than that he is quick. But he's 20, right? He's not supposed to be the finished article yet.

                  As for fees - Shaw's price was ludicrous. Therefore using it as a benchmark is ludicrous. Fabregas cost £27m. Is Sterling as valuable a player as Fabregas?

                  I'd say £20m to 24m would be about right for Sterling. Though it wouldn't entirely surprise me if someone paid more, mainly because he's homegrown qualified.

                  1. pundit of punts
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    Your question should be 'Was Bale proven when he joined Spurs?'. And the answer is No.

                    Comapring Fabregas and Sterling is not fair at all..

                    Sterling can give a club 10 years. Fabregas can't do that.

                    1. Ruth_NZ
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 29 days ago

                      No, not when he joined Spurs. But Spurs paid £5m (rising to £7m). Not the stupid money (£45m???) you are saying Sterling is worth.

          3. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Shaw is quality and not yet there. Imagine when he's fully developed and PL fit. Heard about this Adkins interview but never heard the interview yet. Played him in the PL at 17 but wasn't strong enough then to play more than 30 minutes.

            http://talksport.com/football/shocking-shaw-revelation-he-physically-couldnt-play-90-minutes-says-former-southampton-boss

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Hopefully LvG sorts his fitness out over the summer.

        5. money face bandwagon
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          They are promising youngster which has high re-sell value. Even if sterling fails u still can move him on with a decent price

          1. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Exactly my point.

            The upside is HUGE whereas the downside is much smaller.

            Don't really understand why the Pool fans are happy to get rid of him.

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Because they only want "true believers".

              It doesn't suit Liverpool's mythology that a good young player with potential wants to leave them. Therefore they will boo him when he gets the Young Player of the Season award that they previously voted to give him and revise history to say they didn't want to keep him anyway. 😕

            2. Get up ya bum
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              because he is a young kid with a bad attitude that wants to leave and is gonna bring a big fee. adios amigo 🙂
              great talent though. could be a great player if he keeps his head down and makes the right choices.

              1. pundit of punts
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                But you have got to ask what's that attitude due to?

                He knows Liverpool can't win anything in the next few years and he knows he could get a bigger pay packet at another club.

                So if he wants to play with more talented players and earn more money and win more trophies, then I think it's wrong to blame him.

                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  I don't blame him for anything. Just pointing out why as a liverpool fan I am "happy to get rid of him"

                  1. pundit of punts
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    Fair enough.

                    You're right on that one.

                  2. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 29 days ago

                    Funnily enough, those reasons were part of why I was delighted when Chelsea offloaded Sturridge.

                    The other part is that he is an over-rated Flash Harry physical coward who doesn't like heading the ball and has convinced himself he is genetically pre-disposed to injuries.

      • Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Has the overall rank updated. I've just finished work.

        1. Nickofoz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Not yet

      • Boo Ya Ka Sha
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        is a -8 worth it if I have a 40 pt lead on my rival and do these transfers?

        Ozil + Sterling + Giroud > Silva + Lukaku + Milner/Ashley.Y

        1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          It could work out (Young), but -8 asks for a lot of things to come together.

          1. Boo Ya Ka Sha
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            yeah, I don't know if Young will start. Milner seems a sure thing

      • money face bandwagon
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Alright triple arsenal mid fail..only consolation is that i can pick panti as my gk next season lol

        1. kalmoffit
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Dgw results. Three Sunderland and no Arsenal for maximum points.

          1. money face bandwagon
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Haha was half expecting arsenal not to do that well especially end of season and arsenal spread of points in midfield..but again there are not much excellent choices in mid so might as well.

            Sun surprised me though..never expected 2cs

            1. kalmoffit
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I spent months figuring which Arsenal players Id need. 🙁

      • GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Is De Gea grand for keeping a cleansheet, saving three penalties and 20 more saves v Hull ?

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          De Gea is certainly capable of stopping them but I dont think Hull are capable of taking 20 shots 😆

        2. kalmoffit
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Hull to win 1-0

          1. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            3 peno saves plus 20 saves are assured then 😉

            1. kalmoffit
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Yes, for Harper

      • Test Eagles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Start Skrtel (sto) or Hutton (BUR)?

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Skrtel

        2. kalmoffit
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Skrtel. Villa defenders having extra training this week.

        3. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Hutton. At home to Burnley with less scoring power than Stoke and Pool away not keeping CS lately.

      • Jeremiah
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Any chance of a green with 60 at 5k? 🙂

        1. Ziegler1988
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nope, slight red

        2. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Small red. I have 62 and think I'll get a red.

      • La Roja
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        So which Arsenal players are expected to rested vs WBrom FFS people?

        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I would guess: Giroud, maybe Santi

        2. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Sanchez, Ozil, Cazorla would be the obvious ones. Giroud maybe not so obvious with Danny Wel a doubt. Walcott could come in as a CF of course but my thinking is that he is more likely to replace one of the above 3 in the starting 11.
          Just my take on it.
          Who knows with defenders.. that could be a bit more random

      • Jackie Can
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        its final week, poor rank (but have 40 pt ML margin), mulling over:

        Skrtel (sto)>Morgan(QPR)
        Hendo (sto)>Adam(LIV)
        to fund
        Kane(eve)>Benteke(TOT)

        ....-12...?

        obvious, logical, virtuoso move right?

      • Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Not looking good for me with 17 from today. I guess a lot will have Bellerin and Kos. More so Panti.

        1. Ziegler1988
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          PVA was the most highly owned. Top 10k average went up 22 points from today's match.

          1. bigbudgie
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            jaysus

      • Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Things seem to be going slow enough to make this point.

        Is -8 just one more -4? No, I don't think so.

        People often say you should look at your second hit in isolation, and just ask if it makes sense to make that single move for -4. I'm no statistician, but I think it doesn't work that way. Unless you can't field 11, each hit involves taking a possible scorer away and hoping a replacement scorer does 4 better. Each time you do that you make a rough guess--most people don't put a number on it but I will for illustration--that there is, say, a 40% chance your purchase scores 4 more than what you sell. You decide it's worth that risk. If you do it again, those two 40%s don't sit in parallel: they multiply each other. If you might be willing to take a 40% chance of your move working out, are you equally happy to take a 40% of 40% chance (ie, 16%)? I think most people don't realise that when they pile an extra hit on they are taking their chances of success down to that degree. The extra hit is not more of the same, it makes it wildly less likely that all the things you need to go right will go right; it turns (for purposes of illustration) a 40% chance into a 16% chance.

        Any statisticians around please correct me if I have completely lost the plot.

        1. Jackie Can
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          im going to try my best to politely tell you that youre very wrong

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Nice effort, but why? Where is your argument? I don't think you're rude, but I do think it's lame to just say "you're very wrong" with no basis.

            1. Jackie Can
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              i was composing a reply....thought that seemed obvious from the grammar tbh

          2. Jackie Can
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            let's set up a little model based on what youve said:

            assume player you transfer out gets 2 points no matter what happens (safe)
            the player you want transfer in (punt) has a 60% chance of scoring 0 points and a 40% chance of scoring 8 points

            There are 3 possible outcomes:

            both punts fail: happens with probability 60%x60%=36%
            so you get 0 points (-8) instead of 4 (2x2) for a net -12

            one punt pulls off: happens with 60%x40% x 2 (for each different way this can happen) = 48%
            8 (-8) compared to 4 for net -4

            both punts pull off: 40%x40% = 16%
            16 (-8) compared to 4 fr net +4

            for comparison we look at one punt case:
            60% chance dud fails: for net: (0-4pt hit)-2 (from safe player) = -6
            40% punt pays off: 8-4-2 for net 2.

            so indeed the chance of you ending up in the positive has decreased....however:
            your expected return in the one hit case is 0.36(-12)+0.48(-4)+0.16(4)= -5.6
            expected return in one hit case is 0.60(-6)+0.4(2) for -2.8

            now notice that the expected return in the two hit case is twice the amount as in the one hit case: that is the transfers just sum in expectation and can be equivalently looked at separely from eachother.

            Note: if one transfer is required to fund the other then they must be looked at in their sum (i.e. together)

            1. Jackie Can
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              this analysis also explains why hits are probably futile in the long run: Law of large numbers states that the wins and losses will even out and you'll just end up with the expected (probability wise) outcome: i.e. punt will get 60%(0)+40%(8)-4pt hit to get -0.8points compared to 2 points from safe player.
              obviously this outcome depended on the exact numbers i but try to bear in mind that if the punt had a very high expected return then it wouldnt really be a punt any more.

            2. Jackie Can
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              furthermore if you've already taken a hit, then by definition it is a sunk cost...there nthing you can do about it any more, so further transfers must be looked at on their marginal viability.

            3. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 29 days ago

              I know you'll probably never see this reply, but I'll have a go anyway. (1) it was not at all clear from your grammar that you intended to work up a more detailed reply, (2) your analysis is interesting, and thanks for it, but I'm not sure it demonstrates that what I was suggesting was "very wrong". First, you appear to be arguing that the likely return scenarios end up just being a sum--this is not really what I was talking about. I was saying that the likelihood that the enterprise does not produce a net gain increases, so taking the second hit entails more risk of failure, and hence is not something that can be fairly assessed in isolation. Second, you assume away a key source of fail: the transferred out player scoring well. I think this skews your model, making it more likely that the returns work out to a nice sum. I must admit I could not compose a model that would take account of all the possible outcomes--I said I'm no statistician--but taking two hits introduces two transferred-out players with a chance of scoring well, highlighting the need for both hits to come off, or one of them to come off really well. I understand that this second point really relates to the chance of failure for each hit, but I think it helps illustrate that when you take the second hit, it introduces two new sources of failure. The ultimate point, then, is that the second hit should not be seen as just a question of whether you are happy with the chances of THAT HIT succeeding. You now should be thinking about the likelihood that two chancy things come off at the same time.

              If you do read this and think I'm still wrong, could you address the question of whether the second hit makes immediate success of the whole enterprise less likely than the immediate success of the second hit viewed in isolation?

        2. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'm taking a -8 this gw.

          Don't have much to play for. So why not make it fun bringing in explosive players for boring ones... 😀

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Fun justifies all risks!

        3. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I think your premise is fairly sound EJ. I'm no stats or maths man either. However if your post is derived from your brain thinking is a -4 or -8 worth it in GW38 compared with GW2 or GW3 when squad overhauls maybe needed and/ or TV gains can be achieved. Then.
          I would say a tentative NO to either hit in a final GW.

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            This is really just about the idea that each hit should be seen in isolation, which is a popular view. I agree there is even less chance things work out in a single GW.

        4. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          You may be riding your luck alright but the move doesnt suddenly become bad just because you've taken a hit already (maybe your first hit was the dud 😉 ) You're def less likely to make up a -8 than a -4 but I think most people know this already.

          Another interesting factor is the moves made. Making one move and swapping a like for like is one thing but a -8 would rejig things quite a bit and shift what players are coming in and out.

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I've taken many a multiple hit (-12!) that has worked, I'm just saying that people sometimes underestimate how much they are compounding the risk with each hit. I happen to like hits. 🙂

            1. BeachBadger
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              lol I wasnt referring to you specifically Eunuch 😆 Just adding to the discussion. Every hit is a risk, therefore each additional hit adds to that risk.

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 29 days ago

                Put that way my point is kind of obvious, but a lot of people on here do in fact suggest that once you've made one hit, you should just think about the second one as "a hit". I'm just pointing out that the second hit doesn't just add to the amount you have to cover, it makes success a lot less likely.

        5. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'd have to agree with you there, old friend 🙂

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            🙂

        6. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          In GW38 anything can happen. The reseve team could turn out for a team with nothing to play for. 5-5 games occur 😉

          On paper you are correct, GW38 will be played on grass.

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yup--I'll probably take a hit this week.

        7. Jay_
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I took a 12 point his this week, ended up plus 17 points after transfer cost, my 5th minus 12 of the season I've had 4 green arrows and 1 red arrow. From experience nothing above a 12 hit works but 4, 8 and 12 can easily work out.

            1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              More power to you!

          • Amateur Pundit Zan
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Basically in your example the first hit was as bad a decision as the second one (assuming we relying on a one week pay back)

          • Krul to be kind
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I can see where you are coming from and I mostly agree, but it is of course more complicated. It makes more sense to me to look at how much the hit pays off, not just if it makes back the -4.

            For example, let's say you take two hits- for one the player you brought in scores the same as who he replaced, the other scores 9 more than who he replaced. You'd still be up 1 point when all's said and done, but one of the hits didn't 'pay off', so this scenario is outside of the 16% you are defining as success.

            Also, there is the more long term to look at (not relevant going into gw38 :P); a well placed hit (regardless of whether it is the -4, -8 etc.) can move over future transfers all a week earlier which can easily bring back the four points.

          • walkman666
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I think multiple hits are independent events, statistically. Further, each transfer is based on a number of variables that have a unique calculus or equation or presumed probability of success (eg, player's performance history, recent performance (form), match-ups, team form, etc.). Each of us applies some implicit or explicit formula based on these factors. If, however, every hit was equal in terms of probability of outcom, then I think your assumptions would be correct.

        8. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Alright then, over to you Lebron

          1. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            This.

        9. Alan The Llama
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          OR updated