Scout Notes

Salah and Mané show promise despite blanks against Spurs

Saturday’s early kick-off proved a nervy one for Fantasy Premier League managers who had sold Liverpool assets.

The Reds were comfortably the better team at Wembley but ultimately their highly-owned Fantasy assets could not convert that into points.

In this latest Scout Notes article, we’ve taken a look at exactly how that could impact the Fantasy landscape going forward.

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 1-2 LIVERPOOL

Goals: Erik Lamela (£6.4m) | Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m), Roberto Firmino (£9.4m)

Assists: Christian Eriksen (£9.3m)

The decision of some Fantasy managers to reduce the size of their Liverpool contingent was justified on Saturday lunch-time. However, several of the Reds’ premium assets were close to registering points in the match and could still offer potential going forward.

Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) blanked for the second match in a row but was joint-top for shots in the box for the encounter. His colleague Sadio Mané (£10.0m) registered the same number as him, with an additional effort outside the penalty area to boot.

Furthermore, Salah was joint-top in the match for chances created while Mané could have registered an assist were it not for an unorthodox combination of touches on his cross for Roberto Firmino‘s (£9.4m) goal.

Jan Vertonghen (£6.0m) touched his square pass onto the post, it cannoned back off it across the goal-line before Michel Vorm (£5.0m) got a touch in trying to claim it. That left Firmino unchallenged to tap in, but Mané should definitely take credit for his part in the goal, even if it was not worthy of an assist.

Liverpool were the much more attacking side and on any other day, either of Salah or Mané might have recorded some attacking returns. Their underlying numbers certainly suggest they still have something to offer, even if they were outshone by Eden Hazard‘s (£10.7m) hat-trick later in the day. Manager Jurgen Klopp admitted that the scoreline was not a fair reflection of the match and that his side could have scored more.

“The performance today, for me, was better than the result. The result is the most important and was perfect, winning here is unbelievably difficult and you can never expect that.” – Jurgen Klopp

James Milner (£5.6m) may well prove better value than his premium-priced colleagues at a time when Fantasy managers are contemplating reducing their spend on Liverpool options.

He played the same number of key passes in the match as Salah, is also on set pieces and is the designated penalty taker when he is on the pitch.

There was some uncertainty over Milner’s place in the side during pre-season, but he has now started every Premier League match so far. In that time he has set up two goals and scored one of his own. At Wembley, it was his corner which led to Georginio Wijnaldum‘s (£5.5m) headed goal although he was not credited with an assist.

Firmino now has two goals in his last two games but may be a doubt for Gameweek 6. He picked up an eye injury after Vertonghen caught him in the face with his hand. Further assessment is required for the Brazilian.

Despite conceding a late Erik Lamela (£6.4m) goal, Liverpool’s defence is still proving that they are still worth investing in, even if their fixtures look difficult.

Spurs offered little going forward and none of their three shots on target was considered to be a big chance. That means Liverpool remain the best side in the league for big chances allowed.

“Defending against the ball, we were brilliant. We caused Tottenham a lot of problems in these situations. They are so good and so tuned and do it so confidently to pass through the lines that you need to be outstandingly brave and ready to close these gaps. They are really big sometimes, so it’s really difficult. But we did that, and I was happy with the ball how we controlled the game.” – Jurgen Klopp

However, it does appear that paying upwards of £6.0m for Andrew Robertson may prove too much when options such as Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.0m) and Joe Gomez (£5.0m) are also available. The former continued to take direct free-kicks at Wembley and could easily start to find some returns soon. His owners can certainly consider themselves a little lucky that he was substituted before Lamela’s late goal and banked clean sheet points.

Fantasy managers interested in Liverpool should also make themselves aware of Klopp’s repeated suggestions of rotation. Saturday’s match saw just Jordan Henderson (£5.3m) come out of the side, with Naby Keita (£7.4m) coming in. But it’s PSG in the Champions League on Tuesday night and more changes are expected for Gameweek 6.

“I’m not sure if we can do it on Tuesday and then next Saturday again. We have to show that. Then we have to play against Paris Saint-Germain. They won yesterday without Neymar and Mbappe so they could rest players in the league, but that’s Tuesday and not today.” – Jurgen Klopp

As for Spurs, it was another sluggish display for Harry Kane (£12.5m). He had just two shots in the match as he continues to underperform when it comes to underlying numbers. Yet again, he dropped deep trying to win possession and simply does not look worth spending £12.5m of our FPL budgets on.

Manager Mauricio Pochettino was asked if Kane was being affected by playing in a two-man attack with Lucas Moura (£7.3m) but refused to give much of a substantial answer.

“I think I respect every single opinion, but for me, it’s a collective problem. I am not going to put the finger on some player. I am happy with all the players. The circumstances are the circumstance. I told you the challenge is massive this season. We need to give time to the players to get their best and of course to show our potential in time.” – Mauricio Pochettino

Spurs’ defence does not look particularly trustworthy either. They still have just one clean in 2018/19, look vulnerable on the counter-attack and down their right-flank especially. Michel Vorm (£5.0m) was somewhat at fault for Wijnaldum’s first-half goal and even though Pochettino refused to blame him for it, his decision making in key moments was poor. His presence in the Spurs goal reduces the appeal of defensive assets further with Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) out injured.

“That is a mistake from…if you ask me if it was his mistake, I think it wasn’t his mistake because maybe my vision is different. Was a complicated situation. If you analyse the action then maybe you put the focus on a different player. Michel was involved and the team, which is responsible and I am responsible but it wasn’t the problem with not getting the three points today, I am happy with his performance. It is not easy in four seasons to be in the shadow of Lloris.” – Mauricio Pochettino

At the very least, Pochettino is prepared to admit that his team is not performing at its best, although he would not attribute it entirely to the World Cup. No Premier League side had more players still present in Russia by the final weekend of the summer tournament.

“I don’t want now to complain about the World Cup. From the beginning, I told you it’s a massive challenge, the toughest season since we started. It’s a challenge to work with a team that arrived a few days before the start of the competition. But I’m not going to complain. I think because after three victories all was fantastic and now after two defeats, it’s not a disaster. The most important is to keep the balance. I am not worried I promise you. We are going to win a lot of games. I trust completely in my squad, not 100 per cent but 200 per cent. That is my feeling. I’ve not changed my feeling from one or two months ago.” – Mauricio Pochettino

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR XI (4-2-3-1): Vorm, Trippier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose, Dier (Wanyama 83′), Dembele (Lamela 59’), Winks (Son 73′), Eriksen, Lucas, Kane.

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Alisson, Alexander-Arnold (Matip 90′), Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Keita (Sturridge 83′), Milner, Salah, Firmino (Henderson 74′), Mane.

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4,978 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Robe Wan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    A) Wildcard to include Hazard

    B) Shaw and Bilva to Alonso and Fraser for free

    Etheridge (fabs)

    Mendy. Robbo Shaw*. (AWB Bamba)

    Salah. Mane Bilva* Maddison Pedro*

    Kun. Arnie (Kamara)

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      B for me

    2. PeteMorr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Seems bad to transfer out Shaw

  2. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Bertrand for (only have 5.5)

    A Luiz
    B Pereira
    C PVA (already own WB)
    D Monreal

    Thanks 🙂

    1. Oven Glover
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Shaw?

    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Shaw?

      If not - Luiz

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      thanks guys. Is Shaw nailed though ?

  3. Bird Raymond
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    More lucky points for Madison today? I take it he only took the penalty because Vardy had been subbed off a few minutes before!

    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      He’s a decent prospect tbh

    2. AYLD28
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      He also created three chances in the game for Vardy and had two shots on target well saved from the keeper

    3. S.Kuqi
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Wildcarded him in but considering taking him out immidiately. Fraser or Moura instead

      1. Bird Raymond
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Same here, happy to stick for Huddersfield next week though.

      2. AYLD28
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        With Huddersfield at home next... okay

    4. Drexl Spivey
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Nothing lucky about it.

      1. Bird Raymond
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I'm not complaining as I own him, but must count as lucky if the regular penalty taker was off the pitch?

  4. T.Henry14
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Is it a lot to have both Fraser and Wilson?

    Mkhi --> Fraser tonight before price change.

    Is it too hasty If I have Mendy, Walcott and Kun, and only one useful player on the bench (WBissaka)?

    1. MTPockets
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Seems very good value for the price. I'm looking at doing it.

      • Sterling Malory
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I have Fraser and King.

        Worked out okay today.

    2. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      TorresMagic - any idea yet on what LMS standing safety score stands at?

      36 currently with 3 to play

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Not yet, expect it to be quite low.

    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Bernado, walcott, Salah and Ings to Hazard, Mane, Fraser and Mitrovic?

      1. Chilli Heatwave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I like.

      2. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        For -8? Probs not

      3. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Good move imo

      4. George James
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Getting rid of salah before Southampton at home for -8.

        Crazy

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          It could be but i think long term the moves are suitable and the players I am getting in as a collective can outscore the players I am removing

      5. Lone Wolf FPL
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Why Mitro over Zaha?

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I have zaha already

          but i might downgrade to wilson eventually.

          1. Lone Wolf FPL
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            So you recon Mitro is better than Zaha?

      6. Chucky
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Like it

    4. Chilli Heatwave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      74 with 3 to play, how’s that compared to the average this week?

      1. AYLD28
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        The average like 35

      2. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I reckon you probably know already 🙂

        1. Chilli Heatwave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Honestly no idea this week, not trying to be a dick

          1. Chilli Heatwave
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Pardon my French

            1. Robe Wan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Might have to try a bit harder

              1. Locarno
                • 13 Years
                5 years, 8 months ago

                🙂

          2. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            It's decent 🙂

      3. KLOPPTOMANIA
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Average

      4. Point-one short
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Sadly a little below average.

      5. how now brown cow
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Impossible to tell.

      6. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Exactly the same points w/ doc and Ings to play

      7. Sterling Malory
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I’m pretty average and got 85, so you’re not doing great.

    5. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Bitter taste of disappointment and shoulda coulda woulda fresh in my mouth ...

      On the verge of Mané, Mkhi > Hazard, Fraser on Friday I bottled it and did Mkhi > Pedro

      Currently on 43 inc autosubs with only Fab and Wally to play

      Given my team and Liverpool’s great fixture this game week, am I right to say my best plan is to sit tight and suck it up as the only thing I’d want to do is bring in Haz but that would take losing Mané or Salah?

      £0.3itb 1FT
      Fab, Foster
      Alonso, Mendy, Robbo, PVA, AWB
      Salah, Mané, Pedro, Wally, Hughes
      Aguero, Wilson, Kamara

      Assuming I’m in a common situation. Am I right in my thinking?
      Congrats to those that brought in Haz for a ‘pool mid and captained btw!

      1. Regin
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, u missed the boat. Now keep mane and salahfor gw6. I brought in hazard on ec, but captained kun.

      2. polis
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Stick my man. No player hauls every week.

        Everyone's on Hazard today but he'll get his 2s & 3s too and naturally everyone will want rid.

      3. OverTinker
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        this happens with everyone today it was your turn

    6. Assisting the assister
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Help appreciated on this one.

      A. Eriksen + Pedro > Hazard + Fraser -4

      OR

      B. Pedro> Richardson and give Eriksen a few more as nice fixtures

      Thanks for any advice

      1. Lionel Ronaldo
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Certainly give Eriksen some time? Look at his next 4 fixtures.

        Can you make Pedro -> Hazard while downgrading somewhere else?

      2. Regin
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        100% A!

      3. Assisting the assister
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks - I'm stubbornly keeping Salah as feel his hauls are coming soon. So yeah maybe A. But would need to do Firmino>Zaha or Mitro if keeping Eriksen.

    7. Oven Glover
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      GW rank in

    8. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Holy ****! What a way to let Worcestershire win!

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah that no ball was a killer for Sussex

    9. LD
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      What are the chances that either Walcott or Bennett don’t play? Would mean I get frasers haul off the bench

      1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Desperation

        1. LD
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah It’s pretty likely they both play

    10. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Cairney > Fraser before price drop/rise? I've got perfect funds right now.

      1. Duffy Dunk
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Sure

      2. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Frser wont rise tonight

    11. George James
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Why isn’t Mendy flagged?

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Has an intermittent fear of flags. That's why he didn't play today.

      2. MTPockets
          5 years, 8 months ago

          saturday night and other people have a life.

      3. Atimis
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        1) Wally to Richa
        Or
        2) Mane Wally to Hazard Frase -4

        ???

        1. Chucky
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          B

          1. Atimis
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Just Mane out before Saint and for a hit...?

            1. Chucky
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              You have salah so no need to worry and those two haz and fraser are going to double rise this week...

      4. Chucky
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Should I do Morata and Cairney to Mitrovic and Richarlison for -4?

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          yes

          1. Chucky
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            thanks

        2. Oven Glover
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Morata out for -4 is a small price to pay.

          1. Chucky
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            thanks...He could have got a couple of assists today, don't know why he wasn't used at all.

      5. Winners900
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Looks like players from 8-10m are not performing bar maybe David Silva. And that has really lead out to many bargain options out there.

        Looks like I'm getting Fraser in next week, that will leave me with 1.5m in the bank and I still cant see how to use them for a upgrade. Got a heavy defence, but maybe thats money saved for Salah in the future.

      6. KLOPPTOMANIA
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Will someone sort out Wilson v King for me?

        Also Pedro to Fraser?

        1. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Keep which ever one you own.

          I’d rather have Fraser, fixtures/form are great and Pedro has Willian for competition

      7. Coys96
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Ryan + Walcott > Hennessey + Maddison (free)

        1. Oven Glover
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Just Wally to Rich imo. Ryan’s fixtures better soon. Hen’s turning worse soon.

        2. RNGD Shobby
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Walcott to Maddison is gold.
          If no other issues then Ryan to Hennessey is good also.

      8. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        36k gw rank with TAA to come off the bench and Ings to play.
        Highest in a long time. Happy with that.

      9. RNGD Shobby
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Tossing up 3 options...

        A) Hazard, Mane, DSilva, Bennett (WOL) -12 so probably WC

        B) Hazard, Mane, Richarlison, Shaw -8

        C) Salah, DSilva, Richarlison, Shaw -4

      10. asdf_1
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        B. Silva, firminho to hazard, fraser?
        2ft

        1. how now brown cow
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          How does that work?

        2. Rash
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Don't think that works..

      11. Blanka
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Just watched City highlights, making me doubt getting rid of Bilva. He could have had couple goals and assists easily. Has also featured every game playing 90 mins in 3 out of 5.

        Is everyone being rash getting rid?

        1. Rash
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Don't have to copy me but I am selling!

        2. Teror
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Nope

        3. MTPockets
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Pep loves him - post match press conference (about 2:30 in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hph8rM4Aaqw

            1. Blanka
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Great link. Thanks.

          • Iceball
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            He was good. Im keeping

        4. darth_valdes
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          For anyone saying sell Salah buy Hazard now because of his hat trick, check Hazard conversion rate for the last 2 games (Members, sorry).

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            So check Salah's for the last 2 games in comparison?

            1. darth_valdes
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Up to you. Not saying don't do it. I myself haven't decided. It's up to you whether you think that is sustainable. Gotta set the right expectation for yourself.

          2. Oven Glover
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Check out Sarri’s quotes about Haz scoring 30-35 goals this season 😉

            1. fedolefan
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              At least that's 5 out of the way then. 😛

          3. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            What about us who did the move last week

          4. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Grab both

            1. darth_valdes
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Probably if Kun is out. Can't decide now.

        5. Duffy Dunk
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          A) Gray
          B) Neves
          C) Hughes

        6. Jordan.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          2 ft ,kante,tosun to moura,andre grey done and nighty night....

          1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Maybe I misread your message

            1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Whoops

        7. Nüno Vippan
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Does Rico worth keeping? I didnt watch bmaut today, can someone tell me how he looks offensively?

          1. Critical Observer
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Bad in the first half, good in the second. He’ll come around and if you have you should 100% hold onto him, one of the very few decent 4.5 defenders with potential for attacking returns.

        8. MrFootieIsHere
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Would you do this?

          Pedro + Ramsey > Haz + Billing (-4) but would leave me with 0.0 before Haz price rise..

          Mid would become:
          Salah, Mane, Fraser, Hazard, Billing.

        9. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Remember, the same people telling you not to do Salah/Mané > Hazard are the ones who also tell you to play Robertson over AWB 😉

          1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            If you ask others to guess what will happen in the future, what do you expect

          2. Lone Wolf FPL
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Yeah, this is a game. Anyone can score big here or good player blank.

          3. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Where are they so we can give out to them when we're actually sheep with keyboard skills.....

        10. _Ninja_
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Would you WC this team?

          Foster Patricio
          Mendy Robertson Alonso WB Holebas
          Salah Mane Pedro Walcott Stephens
          Kun Ings Arnie

          Would prob bring in at min Hazard, Frazer, Rich, Mitro, Zaha, Henn and another 5th mid like Peyreya. Cheers