Pre-Season

The midfield bench fodder options available in FPL

Our analysis of the Fantasy Premier League price list will conclude with a look at budget midfielders.

While we may have struggled to so far pick out many gems among the cut-price defenders and forwards, the sheer weight of numbers among similarly priced midfielders – there are currently 119 such players priced between £4.5m and £5.5m inclusive at the time of writing – suggests there may be more joy to be had in the middle of the park.

With sub-£6.0m midfielders representing more than 25% of all FPL players, we will split this analysis into three separate articles.

This first piece will look at players available for £4.5m, the second focusing on £5.0m midfielders and a final feature to follow on those available at £5.5m.

The £4.5m Options

There are, at the time of writing, 35 FPL midfielders available for £4.5m.

The primary function of a £4.5m midfielder is to be an emergency option on our benches, to be ready to come in for a two-point (or better) return when rotation, injury and/or suspension bites hard.

The first requirement of such a player is that he is a reliable starter.

That immediately rules out a large number of Fantasy assets, although pre-season is yet to start in earnest and we may well see a surprise name emerge from this bargain bin of players.

Possible Starters

Leander Dendoncker was benched only once from Gameweek 22 to 38.

There aren’t too many players at £4.5m who can guarantee us a game.

One of the most popular options in FPL right now is Leander Dendoncker, who currently sits in 9.5% of squads.

The Belgium international had to bide his time to become a regular starter under Nuno Espirito Santo, not making the matchday squad until Gameweek 10 and failing to make a single start in the first half of the season.

Dendoncker’s debut finally came in Gameweek 20 and he went on to start all bar one of Wolves’ final 17 league fixtures.

The central midfielder has scored twice in 2019 and, after his full debut, only six players in his position went on to register more big chances – all of them more expensive in FPL.

Wolves’ participation in the Europa League may lead to some rotation but Santo’s squad is fairly small, so Dendoncker should still get plenty of league starts.

Isaac Hayden is the only £4.5m-rated FPL midfielder who features in more FPL squads at the time being, although the Newcastle midfielder – who started the Magpies’ final 20 games – is seeking a move away from the north-east for personal reasons and his whereabouts next season are still to be confirmed.

Dale Stephens made 29 starts for Brighton and Hove Albion last season, meanwhile, registering two attacking returns.

A regular under Chris Hughton, we will have to monitor the Seagulls in pre-season to see if he features prominently in new boss Graham Potter’s plans.

Matteo Guendouzi offers semi-regular starts but that, arguably, isn’t good enough when we are also concerned about rotation to our heavy hitters.

The French midfielder made 23 starts last season but was named as a substitute on a further 14 occasions, coming on ten times.

Oriol Romeu is perhaps up there with Dendoncker in terms of first-team prospects, having started 21 of the 23 matches that Ralph Hasenhuttl oversaw.

The one-time Chelsea midfield spoiler has scored exactly one goal in each of the last four seasons, which is arguably perfect for those who don’t want the anguish of seeing their third-choice substitute stuck on the bench after a double-digit haul.

We may be able to add Tom Trybull to the mix, with the Norwich defensive midfielder a regular starter in the second half of the season at the expense of fellow £4.5m asset Alex Tettey.

The Rest

Grady Diangana made six starts and 11 substitute appearances last season.

Nampalys Mendy made 23 starts last season but not one under Brendan Rodgers.

Aside from those already mentioned, Morgan Schneiderlin was one of only two other £4.5m midfielders who reached double figures for Premier League starts (ten) but even he looks likely to be a backup again this season.

Grady Diangana was briefly a budget midfielder to monitor last season but West Ham’s plethora of attacking options may again restrict his chances, while the future of anchormen Pedro Obiang (who made 12 starts for the Hammers) and Carlos Sanchez is in some doubt.

Moritz Leitner was peripheral in the season run-in for Norwich after being an ever-present in the first 18 matches (the Canaries being well stocked in central midfield), while youngster Todd Cantwell may well be sent out on loan by the Championship winners.

Henri Lansbury, Birkir Bjarnason and the ‘out of position’ Keinan Davis look unlikely to be heavily involved at Villa, meanwhile.

The likes of Mohamed Elneny, Danny Drinkwater, Matty James and James McCarthy would appear to be backup options or surplus to requirements at their respective clubs, with only Arsenal’s Egyptian making any league starts (five) last season.

Youngsters such as Ethan Ampadu at Chelsea, Luke Dreher at Crystal Palace, Tahith Chong and James Garner at Manchester United, and Callum Slattery and Tyreke Johnson at Southampton will be hoping for breakthrough seasons at their respective clubs but remain only prospects for the future at present. Only Slattery of this group made a league start last season.

Brighton’s Beram Kayal will have his fingers crossed for more game-time under new boss Potter, while defensive midfielder Hamza Choudhury is one to monitor (for starts, if not attacking returns) as he continues his development under Brendan Rodgers.

Daniel Amartey is the other Leicester midfield option at £4.5m but it is difficult to see where the some-time right-back fits into Rodgers’ system when he returns from an ankle injury.

Oliver Skipp made just two starts at Spurs last season, while Domingos Quina and Nathaniel Chalobah – who were in Javi Gracia’s starting XI on just three occasions each – will likely be backup options again in central midfield.

Rafael Camacho has left Liverpool on a permanent deal while Luke Amos has joined QPR on loan from Spurs.

It should be stressed that the above information is how we see the picture in early July and there is plenty that could happen between now and Gameweek 1.

We’ll keep you up to speed on all the developments in pre-season and shine a light on any names from this price tier should they look like threatening some league starts.

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1,267 Comments Post a Comment
  1. mcmd11
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Which option?

    A) Maddison + Jimenez
    B) Sigi + Jota

    1. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      second option edges it for me.

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      both are good, probably b because of everton fixtures

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Aye, 2 for me

  2. jayzico
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    How about this? With VAR looking at 5 - 7 penalty takers in team.

    Heaton
    TAA - VVD - Digne
    Salah - Jorge - Sigurdsson - Brooks
    Kun - Vardy - King

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      its not a full squad

    2. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Im counting 6 at max. Jorge as in Jorginho? no.

      1. jayzico
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Jorge takes penalties for Italy. Punt I know.

        Sorry, left bench out. It's rotten.

    3. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Digne and Brooks to Ritchie and Mili for extra penalty takers

      1. jayzico
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Like the Mili move. But Ritchie as in Newcastle Ritchie? God no

        1. Goodish
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Yeah, wasn't being serious, just trying to get you more penalty takers. I like Brooks for the first 2 fixtures and then you can switch to West Ham/Leicester mid if he's not performing.

          1. jayzico
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 18 days ago

            cheers man

  3. No Professionals
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Currently have Jorginho in my starting 11 as an enabler. Should start and get the odd clean sheet bonus. However, if he's on penalties could he turn in to a milivojevic type player? Could end up a being a steal at 5.0.

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      they dont have zaha to win them penalties every week

    2. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Is he really on pens or is this just an assumption

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 18 days ago

        he took one last year, only player other than hazard to do so

        1. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Surely lamps will have a say in whose on pens and if giroud plays he’ll want them

          1. jayzico
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 18 days ago

            Either him or Luiz. Lamps could change all that though. Preseason will tell us more

            1. Eat my goal!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 18 days ago

              Yep, the season seems like an eternity away

              1. jayzico
                • 8 Years
                3 months, 18 days ago

                Ahaaa

      2. jayzico
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Yes

    3. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Willian could be first choice for pens for all we know. New manager.

    4. jayzico
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      This. And I'd say he's 85% on for penalties

    5. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      I have him in most my drafts. Will be disappointed if it doesn't look like he's first choice or that he's not on penalties because having a 5.0 4th mid is what most of my teams have been relying on.

    6. noahzark22
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Pulisic will take pens

  4. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 18 days ago

    KDB on option from the off or not?

    1. Jacky boy
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Better options there

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I’m currently on mo raz and kdb but figure actually it’s best to opt for siggy or rich and use the spare cash elsewhere

        1. Jacky boy
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Yea

    2. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      KDB and Vardy is in my team ahead of Sterling and 6.5. As long as he's fit he is gold for 9.5 imo.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Yeah if he can regain his form injury free it’s a no brainer but I’m in two minds since mo & raz burn the budget - that said putting in the price point allows for son or others

        1. HIT ME!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 18 days ago

          If KDB if injured early on - easy swap to Son

    3. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Yep.

  5. mdm
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Which option is better:

    A. Trippier and Wilson
    B. TAA and Deul

    Have Robertson and King too..

    Thanks!

    1. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      B

    2. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Probably B but would also consider VVD & Giroud. Emphasis on 'consider'; may not be what you're looking for.

    3. Loftus cheeky nandos
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      B

  6. The Royal Robin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    What 5.5 DEF would you pick to fit into this back line?

    Ederson
    TAA Robbo Digne ?

    1. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Trippier

      1. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Is he nailed?

        1. HIT ME!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Aurier is injured. But dont really know, have to monitor. But if he is, real steel at 5.5.

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Zinky/Stones/Gomez - decide after Community Shield.

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      I guess there is zinchenko and maguire if he moves to city

      But in that case I wouldn’t have Ederson

    4. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Trippier is worth the risk imo

    5. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Matip or Stones maybe? Monitor in pre season.

    6. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Trippier but keep an eye on Chelsea - Christensen could be a bargain at 5.0 with Rudiger out.

    7. Lovren an elevator
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Coleman

  7. The Royal Robin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Is there a pairing of 4.5 DEF's that rotate well?

    1. jayzico
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Taylor (Burnley) and Targett (AV)

      1. Misteak
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I'm not sure about Targett me like. Aston Villa's defensive record last season was atrocious.

    2. TorresMagic™ - bcvy39
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Quite a few, use that ticker.

    3. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      I've not looked into it massively, but with Diop and either Dunk or A Smith, you won't have any difficult fixtures for the first 8-10 weeks by which point you will have probably wildcarded. Always thought that it's foolish looking at full season rotations as you won't be keeping them all season.

      1. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        That's very true actually. Thanks.

      2. jayzico
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Yup Fredericks and A Smith is an attractive one

    4. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      I’d go Taylor and Targett, I think Joe’s on that too.

    5. Misteak
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Apart from the fact that they both play City and Liverpool in GW4, Dunk and Taylor are a good rotating pair for the first 10 weeks or so that have the added benefit of actually being able to return clean sheets.

  8. merin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    RMT? Playing 4-4-2

    Ryan Button
    TAA Laporte Digne Ake Kelly
    Sterling Salah BSilva Sigurdsson Dendoncker
    DCL Jota Surridge

    1 ITB

    1. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      I'd use that money to upgrade Aké.

      1. merin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Thanks! Any 6.0 def you’d recommend?

        1. The 5% Team
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Azpilicueta, proven fpl defender

        2. Eytexi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 17 days ago

          I'd be tempted to go for Kyle Walker, and also swapping Laporte for VVD to ensure you don't have 4 City players.

  9. Rigid Digit
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Ross Barkley?

    Not a regular starter last year, but good returns. Could be a great buy at 6.0 (especially if the myth is true about Lampard seeing Barkley as a potential Hazard gap-filler, and a younger version of himself)

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      One to watch but I think I’d be pessimistic on that one.

  10. Misteak
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    One of my big dilemmas right now is Alonso + Jorginho or 4.5 def + 7.0 mid. The first one pushes me into a 5-3-2 most weeks (Jorginho first sub) when really I want to play 4-4-2, but considering Alonso outscored every 7.0 mid last season I can't bring myself to drop him.

    1. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Alonso scored most of his points in the first 4 gw's or so. We dont even know if he's the first choise or if its Emerson.

      1. Misteak
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I'm clearly going to pay attention to preseason. But Alonso is one of the most consistent players in FPL (over the course of a season) and he's started with a flurry of goals for two years running. I'm going to back historical precedent with this one.

        1. HIT ME!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Could be worth a punt. But for me there are better options in the lower price bracket. Good luck though really. Hope he is gonna perform! /Chelsea fan

    2. Loftus cheeky nandos
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Jorginho is awful

      1. Misteak
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I know he is. But he's as good as it gets for 5.0

        1. Eytexi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 17 days ago

          I've gone for Norwood.

          1. Nomar
            • 9 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            I like him but concerned Freeman will take points off him.

            1. Eytexi
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 17 days ago

              That's a good point I hadn't considered. Still reckon he's a better pick than Jorginho though (for now at least).

    3. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Who are your other defenders?

      1. Misteak
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Ederson + 4.0, Robbo, TAA, Coleman, Dunk.

        1. Eytexi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Digne or Trippier maybe?

          1. Eytexi
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Or laporte if you haven't got double City attack?

  11. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Thoughts on this updated team- Moura in until Son return (.5 to update to best 8 m after 2 games)

    Heaton (or Pope)
    TAA Laporte VVD Digne
    Salah Sterling Moura Pérez
    King Deulofeu

    Woodman Dendoncker Diop Wickham

    1. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Very solid. Not the biggest fan of Perez (initially) or Diop (doubt you'll play him at all?) though. Otherwise very nice indeed.

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Thanks- if Tielemans signs up at Leicester and is 6.5/7 m might select him over Pérez

    2. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Very close to mine, which currently is...

      Ederson
      TAA VVD Digne Coleman Trippier Salah Sterling Sigurdsson Zaha King

      Dendoncker 4.5 4.5

  12. Jacky boy
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Digne _ 2 of VVD,TAA,Robbo _ Trippier
    Where to get a city defender? Other defenders look better than city's
    Ederson only option ? Prefer heaton/pope !

    1. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Ignore city defenders for now is an option

    2. Misteak
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      I think Ederson is the City defender to go with. He was their highest scoring defender two seasons ago and only came in a few points behind Laporte last season. It'll be the same this season I bet, so I'd rather have 0.5 to spend elsewhere.

      1. Jacky boy
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I prefer cheap gk

  13. Dannyb
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 18 days ago

    Thoughts on Willian? Tempting with Chelsea's fixtures.

    1. HIT ME!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Think he can be a good option. Could be worth a punt but its a wait and see for me.

  14. The Sociologist
      3 months, 18 days ago

      What's the general feeling so far...

      A) Sterling + Deulofeu
      B) KDB + Vardy

      For context, rest of the team looks like this:

      Ryan / Button
      Robertson / TAA / Digne / Walker / 4.0
      Siggy / Zaha / Salah / 4.5
      King / 4.5

      I'm feeling that Sterling might be a must from the off, but just feel the team looks more balanced with Vardy...

      Thoughts?

      1. HIT ME!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Like your team very much. Similiar to mine. B it is for me!

      2. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Very nice team. I've gone for both those midfielders and gone one upfront, also downgrading Zaha & Robbo to make the money.

      3. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I want Vardy, but I don't think I'm going to be going with him. I think you were right when you said Sterling might be a must. Imo he is a must. Can easily see him being this season's top FPL scorer.

      4. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        KDB will be a 200 pointer if he can stay fit. Him and Vardy are a much better shout IMO

        1. Nomar
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          But he doesn’t score a lot of goals though, mainly assists.

          If he gets 200 points Sterling, as the likely major beneficiary of those assists is surely going to score even more than he did last season, no?

          1. Hedge
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Possible. Don't see Deulofeu scoring very highly at all as a fwd now either

          2. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            ^^^.

    • Loftus cheeky nandos
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Who will get more points Robertson or TAA

      1. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 18 days ago

        TAA

      2. Halftime
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Probably TAA, i think Robertson is a better all round player but TAA is better going forward

      3. HIT ME!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        TAA

      4. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        TAA will.

      5. jayzico
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        TAA with VVD then Robbo is my prediction

        VVD should be miles ahead in reality though

    • OneMan
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Could Giroud, Willian or Pedro be player's who shines this season under Lampard, now with Haz and Morata away ?

      1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Yes.

        1. The Royal Robin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Chelsea's fixtures are actually not that bad either. They're going completely under the radar and I think Lampard will have the same factor Ole had to start with.

          1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 months, 18 days ago

            Yeah, the points are gonna have to come from somewhere, so there will definitely be bargains to be found. Chelsea might not be a top top team, but could make a mockery of their prices.

            1. The Royal Robin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              3 months, 18 days ago

              Do you know much about Pulisic? He seems very generously priced but I literally know nada about him.

      2. Ghost Ship
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        One of the Chelsea mids could be a bargain but could be any from four or five.

    • The Royal Robin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Anyone else finding it nigh-on-impossible to field a premium GK? Fed up to the eyeballs of Ryan/Button but at the same time I can't see anything beyond it if you want the players we're all gunning for in defence.

      1. No Professionals
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        I've gone ederson

        Ederson
        TAA Robertson Digne Smith
        Salah KDB Sigurdsson Jorginho
        Kane King

        A lot won't like Smith and Jorginho, but you can downgrade kane or Sigurdsson and boost them.

      2. HIT ME!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        The premium gks are not worth it if you count ppm. Just get heaton or pope and use those funds elsewhere.

        1. The Royal Robin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 18 days ago

          Just get Heaton or Pope you say, and then end up with the one that doesn't even ruddy play... 😀

          1. HIT ME!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Just get a 4.5 that you like* =)

      3. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Ederson
        Robertson / TAA / Laporte / Digne
        Salah / KDB / Siggy / Fraser
        King / Jota

        Pretty happy with it tbh. Ederson will outscore a 4.5/5 goalkeeper more than a 1-1.5m upgrade will be worth elsewhere IMO

        1. Flynny
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          For keepers have a look at an excellent thread on Twitter by fpleditor

          A bit too much for me to take in but he figures you are better with a cheap 4.5m that ederson or premium.

          My issue with that is I'd have to get laporte who is 0.5m more than ederson. ....

          1. Hedge
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            I've replied to that further down. Floored thinking IMO. I did some analysis on the best places to upgrade across the pitch and premium keepers always came out as worth the upgrade

      4. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Premium goalkeepers are a luxury imo. The 1.5m over Ryan is better spent upgrading a defender or midfielder. If you're lucky enough to make a good squad with money to spare, only then is a premium goalkeeper a real option for me.

    • Ghost Ship
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Will be looking at preseason for a cheap mid to downgrade Zaha and upgrade goalies for now what do you think:

      Ryan 4.0

      VVD zinchenko Coleman Kelly/O’Connell

      KDB Salah Zaha 4.5 4.5

      Aguero vardy king

      1. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 18 days ago

        Where is TAA and Robbo? 🙁 🙁 🙁

      2. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Looking decent but would like to see TAA, Walker and Digne at the back at the expense of Zaha.

    • OneMan
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 18 days ago

      Ederson
      TAA/Roberson/VVD/Alonso/Coleman
      Stirling/Pedro or Willian/
      Kane/Giroud/Deulof

      Button/Dendoc/Oriol/Hayden ??

      Anychanges needed

      Pedro or Willian ?

      1. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        While I agree with your comments re: Chelsea above - I think doubling up is a bit OTT. I'd certainly consider Willian though. He's surely got to be their creative flair now.

        That defence is 😮 It's very well balanced, I just think you could downgrade Giroud.

        1. No Professionals
          • 2 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          He's gone triple Chelsea

        2. OneMan
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Giroud is so tempting given he is their only notable striker ? No ?

          Thanks I think you're right I will go with Willian.

          1. Rotation's Alter Ego
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 8 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Willian is a decent shout for the first 4 or 5 games.

            Pedro and Giroud probably won't play and Alonso is definitely at risk from Emerson, given how Lampard set his team up to defend at Derby.

            Other than that it's a decent 523 - Just thinking that Salah could absolutely obliterate your OR first week, especially since you don't have the likes of Mane.

    • g40steve
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Any good?

      Ederson,
      Laporte, Virgil, Robbo/Trent, Digne, Mr 58 mins Christensen
      Salah, Sterling, Siggy,
      Deulofeu, King

      Button, Dendoncker, Choudhury, Nketiah

    • Flynny
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      The big question - that is going to determine the makeup of my squad.....what is better?

      A.....sterling and 6.5m striker

      B.....bilva and kane

      Anyone else stuck with this?

      Thanks

      1. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Def A for me

        King/Jota > B Silva

        1. Hedge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          And I think sterling will score more points than Kane

        2. Flynny
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Thanks

      2. Rotation's Alter Ego
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        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        A

        Never been that convinced by BSilva's returns in terms of FPL and I really want to see some old Kane form before I buy him, as tempting as that price is. Sterling and a forward like King look excellent picks, albeit (quite rightly) template

        1. Flynny
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Nothing wrong with template

      3. HIT ME!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        A

      4. jayzico
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Needs more Kun

      5. Kun Tozser
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        I’m going B and it’s with a 6.5 forward in King also

        Toss up between Sterling and Liverpool mid for me

    • OneMan
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Prospects for Giroud this season. Will he lead the line at Chelsea ?

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
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        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Probably not.

        Abraham or Bats the most likely candidate, would guess Abraham right now.

        1. Eytexi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Really? That would surprise me to be honest. Despite Giroud's weaknesses, he's a proven goalscorer at a high level when given the game time, especially in comparison to his competition.

      2. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        I think so. Am looking to bring in a Chelsea forward after a few weeks after, hopefully, one emerges as nailed. I reckon this will be Giroud (as explained in my reply above) but that may not be the case.

        1. OneMan
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Good, I'll do the same and if Giroud emerges in the first few weeks or has a solid pre-season I'll get him in.

    • The Royal Robin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Anyone genuinely planning on going 5 at the back?

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
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        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Plenty.

        You can build a nice 11 with it, as many have done, but the flexibility and the fact that it feels so boring puts me off - I prefer to load with players that are likely to score!

        1. Nomar
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Same here.

      2. Galza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Lots.
        I can’t bring myself to do it personally.
        It’s wrenching me having a 4-4-2 formation as it is... 🙂

      3. g40steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Look up the page 😉

      4. Game Over
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        If it's clear who is most preferred out of Mendy and Zenchenko, then yeah.

      5. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Lots, some of which will back down. Personally going 451 at the moment with a stacked midfield. May end up with 541 though if any of my midfielders begin to look like weaker options.

    • Obi-Wan Kenobi-Nil
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Think I've stumbled across a fairly well balanced team (positionally), with eleven definite starters and a bench that should have at least two of them getting regular minutes. Thoughts?

      Obviously the weak link is the fourth defender, but they rotate over the first eight fixtures to give: BHA (H), WHU (H), SOU (H), new (A), BUR (H), new (A), wol (A), SHU (H) which isn't awful. They rotate well through the rest of the season too, but I'm only thinking about the first eight weeks for now.

      Ederson (Button)
      TAA, VvD, Digne, Dunk (Cathcart)
      Salah, Sigurdsson, B. Silva, Perez (Dendoncker)
      Kane King (Wickham)

      1. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Very rare that a 4.5 defender outperforms their price tag significantly. Surely the point of 4 or 5 at the back is to get more of the big hitter (180+) defenders?

        1. Obi-Wan Kenobi-Nil
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          My thought process is that most teams are going to have at least one weak link in their starting XI, and I'd rather mine be at the back for the exact reason you proposed. Allows to me to feel comfortable/excited about each of the other 10 players I'll be fielding.

          1. Hedge
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            You not think Vardy and Laporte will outscore Kane and Dunk for example?

      2. Nomar
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        No Sterling, Aguero or Laporte.

        This is a rank killer and early WC waiting to happen.

        1. Nomar
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Not even KDB either.

          Not good at all.

          1. Obi-Wan Kenobi-Nil
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Impossible to have a balanced team with Kane, Salah, Aguero/Sterling and double Liverpool defence.

            You can only have it if you’re going to skimp everywhere else. I chose to go for guaranteed minutes in B. Silva and include Salah, Kane and double Liverpool defence from the off. Still got double City which is plenty to start with, for my money.

            Your negativity won’t put me off 🙂

            1. Nomar
              • 9 Years
              3 months, 17 days ago

              It’s not negativity.

              It’s about fielding the right players from the top teams. Yes you have two Man City players, but one is a GK who won’t carry any potential attacking threat at all and the other is a mid who will score considerably less than KDB, Salah and Sterling.

              We all want balance but I can’t help thinking you’re neglecting at least one citizen whose going to score big and the players you have on his place won’t make that difference up.

              But, it’s your team, so do as you will.

    • That Posh Bloke
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Hello, gents.

      I want to double up on City defense. Walker is in. Who is likely to play left back?

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Zinchenko initially I believe, but looks like it might be a roulette later on

      2. No Professionals
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Couldn't double up without an absolutely nailed option

      3. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Zinchenko. Ignore the naysayers! 🙂

      4. Skalla
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Just go Ederson and Laporte then , safest options at City.

      5. That Posh Bloke
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Thanks to all, but is Zinchenko really gonna play over Mendy? Is Mendy not fit or something?

        1. Boxwoods
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Reportedly slated for late return to training. Zinchenko probably good first couple of weeks, +.

          1. Giggs Boson.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Link?

            1. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              3 months, 17 days ago

              Just this from twitter that was posted here a day or so ago. Guess it's hardly gospel.
              https://twitter.com/SamLee/status/1146506810234429440?s=19

      6. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        If you're feeling especially reckless, I think Stones is more nailed than any City left back. This may not remain true over pre-season, but i reckon it'll be easier to predict the second centre-back than the left-back come gameweek one.

    • No Professionals
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Interesting thread on the premium v 4.5 keeper debate.

      https://twitter.com/FPLEditor/status/1147208740363546625?s=19

      1. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Interesting, but don't agree with the approach. You can't just compare the 1.5m upgrade of a GK to ANY other 1.5m upgrade of a 4.5 player. If you start with a base of 4.5 players you have lots of 1.5m upgrades you can make all across the pitch.

        I agree defenders represent the best value for the upgrades from a baseline, but GK are a better place to upgrade than strikers past about 6 and mids about 8 generally

    • Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Villa.

      Ahmed El Mohamady no. 4 price 4.5

      A ... Pos ......... H ... W ... App(Sub) mins ..... G ... A
      31, D(R),M(R) 183 75 35(6) 3239 2 8

      Only 3 other Villa players passed 3000 mins.

      AVL : tot -388 BOU 127 EVE -101 cry -58 WHU -14 ars -447 BUR 109 nor -145

      Just saying'. 🙂

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        In danger of being second choice now apparently. Getting old and all that.

        https://twitter.com/ahopcroft13/status/1145339862725406721?s=19

        1. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          I call bollocks. 😀

          1. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Also, Ahmed is as fit as a butcher's dog! 😉

          2. Rotation's Alter Ego
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 8 Years
            3 months, 17 days ago

            Blind faith is all an FPL manager needs 🙂

            Or an early wildcard, both work 😉

            1. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 months, 17 days ago

              As I have just demonstrated, I prefer to work off evidence based data. 😉

    • TorresMagic™ - bcvy39
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 10 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Looks like an Australia vs England semi final in the cricket.

      1. Doosra - ☭A Noble Grape…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        How depressing. 🙂

      2. Skalla
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Well atleast SA is doing well today but why wait until the last game!

    • fattfattygavgav
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      Evening all. First draft thoughts much appreciated;

      Kepa
      Laporte, VVD, Robbo, Digne
      Salah, Sterling, Zaha, Maddison
      King, Jota

      Button, Dendonka, Kelly, Janssen

      Thanks

      1. Flynny
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Nice and standard.

        I'd want 2 reliable subs so would downgrade kepa and upgrade kelly

        1. fattfattygavgav
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Thanks for the advice. Might do that but I do like to have money on the pitch early in the season.

      2. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Really like it. Was struggling to get a team I liked with both Salah and Sterling but your setup looks nice.

        1. fattfattygavgav
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Cheers

      3. scubasmithy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Similar to mine but I have Ryan and Coleman and DCL to allow me to upgrade zaha and maddison to Siggy and Bilva

        1. fattfattygavgav
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Nice! Might try and squeeze Bilva in

      4. twoplustwo
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Ha see below! Nice

      5. Eytexi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Very strong. Kepa & Maddison are the only two I'm not sure are worth their price tag, but overall a very solid team. I'd want Ryan & Siggy instead of them two, otherwise a very nice first draft.

        1. fattfattygavgav
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 17 days ago

          Thanks dude

    • twoplustwo
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 17 days ago

      It’s back!!! Hi everyone. Fresh off of a top 10k finish 🙂 How’s the below looking? I think the 4 at the back are fantastic value. Sterling could become Mane or Salah. Ryan and JWP are weak admittedly. Any views?

      Ryan

      TAA Trent Digne Laporte

      Sterling Zaha JWP Maddison

      Agueroooo King

      Subs 4.0 Murray Dendonny 4.0

      1. fattfattygavgav
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 17 days ago

        Do you mean VVD and Trent? Nice team but risky without any Liverpool attack