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The FFS Fantasy League auction as it happened

On Saturday, I was privileged to be invited to the inaugural Fantasy Football Scout auction, organised by Fantasy League (FL).

I was further honoured to be asked to participate as well as report on the auction; this was done at the last minute, clearly as a ploy on the part of the Scout guys to ensure that I did no prep in advance whatsoever!

We were joined by, and had as auctioneer, Andrew Wainstein, the godfather of Fantasy Football and the founder of Fantasy League. Andrew’s auction-style was a little different to what I’m used to, with very long pauses before the ‘gone’, but this certainly added to the tension and meant there were a lot of last-second spoiling bids, just when people thought they could write the player’s name on their teamsheet!

We all had £100m to spend on 15 players so we got down to business…

I had written previously about being wary of rookies. What I’d never previously experienced, and had no idea how to manage, was a situation of facing with seven newbies all in the same auction.

They were FFS editor David Munday, deputy editor Neale Rigg, community manager Geoff Dance, moderator Ted / Rotation, community writer Top Marx, IT whizz Mat and Scout’s business development director Chris James.

Would prices be completely wild? Would I spend the next couple of hours permanently shaking my head? Would I come away punch-drunk and bewildered at how I’d been hustled into having a team full of bit-part players and Fantasy dross? The all-important facts are in the tables below, setting out the players each of us picked, and at what price:

The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice that not all the prices paid add up to the budget of £100m; in fact, only David spend his entire budget and whilst Mat (£96m), Will (£99m), Chris (£99m), Neale (£98m) and Geoff (£93m) came close, Ted and I were a lot more frugal, spending £87m and £81m respectively. Whilst I will talk more about what happens post-auction in a subsequent article, what this means is that I’ll have my pick of any players signed between now and the transfer window closing given that no-one will be able to outbid me, with Ted effectively getting second pick.

The good news for everyone is that, in my opinion, there’s no single stand-out squad. Most spread their money around which is the safest strategy, particularly in your first auction, but were also prepared to go big where necessary to secure the big names.

Bear in mind that these were no Fantasy Footballing slouches; I was pitting myself, unprepared, against some of the finest FPL minds around and guys who really know their football and footballers.

What they proved is that auction experience is ultimately no substitute for footballing know-how. Plus, an auction isn’t rocket science, so it really doesn’t take long to get into the swing of it.

It also didn’t take too long for the big guns to come out either. After the initial foreplay of Deulofeu, Maguire, Zaha, Sane, Maddison and Wood, Sir Mohammed of Salah was thrown out by David.

Initially there were gasps of disbelief as the bidding went up and up, but when the ‘gavel’ (the trophy, to be more accurate) came down, and he was Chris’ signing for £30m, my own view is that Chris had paid a good amount as my expectation would have been a final price of between £35m and £40m.

Straight after Salah, Harry Kane put in a not-unexpected appearance and, with a greater sense of acceptable prices, he went for a predictable £32m.

I appreciate that for a lot of you, looking at these prices will leave you scratching your heads. How on earth can Vardy cost £2m more than Aguero and only £1m less than Salah? How can KDB be almost 50% more expensive than Mane? How did Patricio cost more than Ederson, Lloris or Pickford?

This is the beauty of the auction at play. Prices are both dependent upon the quality of the player AND the point in the auction at which they are raised, both in terms of how much money has already been spent and what price reference points already exist.

For example, David raised Raheem Sterling at £5m after he had spent a big portion of his budget, so as soon as the bidding went above £8m he promptly left the table to get his lunch, leaving the others to fight to the death. He eventually ended up in Neale’s squad for £30m.

Patricio was the first goalkeeper raised (he was only the 11th player to come up) and there were another 19 picks before Pickford came up. By then, people were already being cagey with their money as a lot had gone on a lot of big guns.

I was lucky that Aguero didn’t put in an appearance until the 40th nomination, hence my getting him for a price I viewed as decent value for money (VFM), and the same was true for Firmino who was 43rd.

Conversely, Salah, Kane and Vardy were seventh, eighth and tenth respectively, hence the marginally higher prices. I’m not saying they were overpriced but, relative to their FPL prices, Vardy, Kane, KDB, Aubameyang, Sterling and Salah had the highest margins, followed by Aguero and Lacazette (reflecting the latter’s 41st position).

I shall not try to draw you all a graph but, basically, after the initial nerves have settled with the first few players, prices go crazy, then there’s a big lull, and then you can get some nutty prices towards the end as two managers with plenty of money battle for players which will complete their squad.

This happened with both Kepa and Monreal, both of whom I wanted but where Neale and Geoff needed those positions filled and where, tight git that I am, I wasn’t prepared to spend over the odds even if failing to get either player left me in a bit of a quandary.

Anyway, having had 24 hours to digest the respective squads, I decided that a bit of marking the homework was in order and so I’ve graded each manger’s defence, midfield and strikers. This is just my opinion and no doubt there will be quite a bit of disagreement, which I’m happy to debate in the comments section below.

Mat

  • Defence: A
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

Mat has one of the finest defences in the league which I expect will be the bedrock of his points. Ederson, Azpilacueta and Van Dijk need no comment whatsoever, and Doherty was the darling of FPL last season, with a more than respectable 36 points in Fantasy League (making him the sixth highest-scoring fullback). Vertonghen’s minutes will depend upon formation and whether he is preferred over Sanchez in the Spurs backline but he could prove great value at just 3m.

Mane was surely one of the biggest bargains of the auction, helped by the fact that he was the 57th player raised. The rest of the midfield aren’t points machines (Ritchie is a midfielder in Fantasy League) but they’re also not players I’d be unhappy to own so I think Mat will do just fine with them.

We need to see what the potential arrival of Pepe will do to both Aubameyang and Lacazette’s positions and minutes but the latter could have been a snip at only two-thirds of the price of the former. Will Wilson and Jota replicate their heroics of last season? If they do, then Mat will be a very happy man.

Top Marx

  • Defence: B-
  • Midfield: A/C
  • Strikers: B+

I’m sure that if the auction were re-run, Will’s first action would be to wait and see with his goalkeeper. I’m not saying that Patricio is disastrous, but clearly Will would rather have had Ederson AND 1m extra in the bank.

From a defensive perspective, if Kolasinac can be as good defending his goal as he was his car, and with equal ability to go on the counterattack, then as a freebie Will be laughing all season. There has been plenty written about the danger of the left-back position at Man City so whilst Zinchenko is the team’s lucky mascot, surely he’ll share the spot with Angelino and, when fit, Mendy.

At centre-back, short of a Van Dijk injury, Will effectively has one Liverpool defender in Gomez and Matip, so may feel the pain of being the equivalent of a defender light for the season.

I’ve given two separate marks for midfield as Will will be praying to the footballing gods daily over the next two weeks that neither Pogba nor Eriksen are sold overseas.

With both of them staying, Will has a small but perfectly-formed midfield with Son, Pogba and Eriksen being three of the best, and Redmond could well chip in with his share of points if he continues where he left off last season.

In terms of strike-force, what Will lacks in terms of big-hitters, he more than makes up for in quantity. Rashford, King, Haller and Zaha should all start the majority of the time and any one of them could score a hatful of points.

Will, Ted and I will each be praying that our respective Chelsea strikers are the favoured one this season, and at least Batshuayi only cost one-fifth of what Ted and I paid for Abraham and Giroud. Deeney wouldn’t be my first choice of Watford strikers but he’s on penalties and would make an excellent bouncer partnership alongside Kolasinac…

Ted

  • Defence: B-
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

Ted’s defence is a bit of a mixed bag. I like Pickford and Alderweireld, but I’m not sold on Van Aanholt and Jonny simply because I don’t see either Palace or Wolves consistently getting clean sheets, despite the attacking potential of both players.

I suspect that Duffy will either find himself permanently benched or shipped out after the first time Brighton concede a cricket score, and Lovren might be the fourth choice centreback at Liverpool now and so will be a pretty rare starter in the Premier League.

One saving grace for Ted, however, is his having the second-highest post-auction budget so he’ll be on the lookout for a top centre-back signing.

In midfield, if Pulisic steps into Hazard’s empty shoes then £7m will prove an absolute steal. Sigurdsson and Fraser are points in the bag, and Perez could prove another undervalued player from our auction. With Pereyra and Mahrez, both for free, Ted has two players capable of turning it on big time, particularly the latter.

Ted’s three As up front (Aubameyang, Abraham and Adams) are harder to quantify. We all know that Aubameyang is one of the finest goalscorers in the league, but barely a week goes by without someone questioning whether he’s certain to start, or whether he’ll be planted on the left or right wing with Lacazette through the centre.

Adams and Abraham both performed wonders in the Championship last season but that doesn’t always translate into good Premier League performances so the jury is out on both of them, particularly the latter given that Lampard has three choices to fill his single striker berth, assuming he sticks to one up top.

Chris

  • Defence: A+
  • Midfield: A
  • Strikers: B+

Of all the defences acquired on Saturday, Chris’s is probably the one I’d most like to have myself. No, you’re right, it doesn’t have a Liverpool defender, but otherwise, Chris has some of the finest full-backs and centrebacks going in Digne, AWB, Alonso, Laporte and Luiz, particularly if he’s bought the Alonso of a couple of seasons ago.

The midfield has Salah. I should probably leave it there but Maddison, Gross and Milivojevic should be solid understudies too, particularly the latter if Zaha stays at Palace and VAR awards them a couple of penalties per game.

Having the big outlay on Salah and defence inevitably meant that the strikers couldn’t be on a par with the rest of the team. However, both Jimenez and Deulofeu are great picks, Ings could be the focal point at Southampton, and Origi is often the go-to man when a goal is needed at Anfield. My thoughts on Calvert-Lewin aren’t publishable though…

Neale

  • Defence: B+
  • Midfield: A+
  • Strikers: C

Neale picked up a curate’s egg of a defence. Kepa and Robertson are nailed on and top quality. Lindelof could be a first-choice centreback at Manchester United, even if Maguire comes in although two new centre-back signings could see him relegated to the bench.

The cautionary notes are around Zouma, Pereira and O’Connell, particularly the latter. Zouma back to Everton would be great for Neale but, if he stays at Chelsea, will he get much game time? Pereira was a great FPL player and got decent FL points but Leicester wouldn’t be one of my first choices for defenders, especially given Rodgers’s attacking sensibilities.

All I will say about O’Connell is that he’s a Sheffield United defender and no matter how good a player he may be, he could still suffer as a Fantasy League asset if the Blades struggle to replicate the defensive strengths of their time in the Championship.

Neale has a formidable midfield, led by Sterling and De Bruyne, and ably assisted by Anderson. Ozil, for free, could be one of the bargains of the auction if he rediscovers his form, and Neale himself wrote recently about both Jota (Villa) and Trossard, with probably the latter having the greater potential after his form last season in Belgium.

Where Neale will struggle is up front. For starters, having only two strikers is not a strategy I would adopt myself. Although Wood is a proven goalscorer, Joelinton is a completely unknown quantity at a club everyone is touting to struggle after losing Benitez.

Also, Burnley and Newcastle hardly set the pulse racing. Overall, a lack of firepower in the striking department may be Neale’s undoing in his quest for the title but expect to see him in the reckoning.

David

  • Defence: A-
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

It’s very difficult to assess David’s defence because it’s such a mixed bag. In TAA and Coleman, he has two of the finest full-backs in the land. Lloris is a great goalie and if Stones secures a spot in the City defence, David will be laughing.

Where I’m less convinced is with Boly, Tarkowski, Chilwell and Walker-Peters. The last of that group could be great every other week if Spurs fail to replace Trippier but we all know Poch’s love of rotating full-backs. After that, I’m not in love with Wolves, Burnley and Leicester defenders; all can have their day, and probably won’t ship tonnes of goals, but I wouldn’t expect any of them to score particularly highly in Fantasy League.

On paper, the quartet of Sane, Richarlison, Martial and James could be an amazing midfield. The problem is, Richarlison aside, that the chances of all four playing week in, week out, is slim to none.

Although Fantasy League is far less about having certain starters than FPL, and one of my previous articles talked up Leroy Sane as a great example of an impact sub, I feel that David will still need more points coming from midfield than he is likely to get most of the time.

There’s also still the risk that Sane could be moving to Germany, which would be highly unfortunate and leave a gaping hole in David’s team.

Because of the overload in defence, David had relatively little room for strikers and I feel that might be his undoing. I love Jamie Vardy and I’m sure he will be fantastic for David, but Benteke and Barnes don’t really get my juices flowing.

Geoff

  • Defence: A
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: A-

Geoff has probably the joint-strongest defence in the league, particularly if Maguire moves to a Manchester United. A line-up of first-choice players from Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United needs no further commentary.

Midfield is undoubtedly Geoff’s weakest area. Bernardo Silva is a Pep favourite but that doesn’t necessarily translate into big points; Geoff will be crossing everything that this is his season to start banging in the goals and racking up his fair share of assists.

Moura and Pedro, on their day, are great players and capable of doing Geoff proud, but there’s no certainty of starts, particularly for the former. Iwobi is another yet to show his true potential and Trezeguet is a completely unknown quantity.

The injured Hudson-Odoi could eventually be a bargain but it’s a packed Chelsea midfield and it’s far from clear how Lampard will have them lining up.

Up-front, Geoff paid big for the assured quality of Harry Kane. After that, he spent a further one-fifth of his budget on the main striker from each of the three promoted clubs.

Whilst history tends to show that one of the promoted teams has a prolific striker, it’s rare that it’s all three of them so Geoff has gone out on a limb and will hoping that a new precedent is set this season.

Clouseau

Why no grading of my own team? Principally, it’s because it isn’t that easy to be objective about your own picks. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t happy with my strikeforce, despite the fact that Aguero AND Jesus basically amount to a single City striker.

I believe that Firmino should do better from a fantasy perspective this season than he did last time out. If Giroud is the preferred striker at Chelsea, my 5m will be a snip, and Glenn Murray is as Glenn Murray does.

The midfield is solid even if it isn’t earth-shattering. Vrancic could easily make way for the biggest signing of the remaining transfer window. Fornals is a punt but, like Vrancic, was a free punt. And in Alli, Tielemans and Willian, I’m reasonably happy.

On the defensive front, my failure to get Kepa meant that I had no choice but to double down on Manchester United by getting De Gea, having picked up Shaw early on.

Similarly, missing out on Monreal meant that Maitland-Niles was literally the only fullback left on the list who I could both pick up (I couldn’t go for Mendy or Angelino due to already having Aguero and Jesus) and who I felt was reasonably likely to play, at least until Bellerin returns from injury.

I’ve always been loathe to spend money on my defence, often to my detriment, but I suppose that two Man Utd, one Spurs, one Everton and one Arsenal for 4m isn’t something about which I should complain.

Final Thoughts

I wrote recently ‘Beware the Rookie’, mainly because in not knowing what they’re doing, they can mess up your own plans. I was facing seven total rookies on Saturday and the plans I devised in the five minutes notice I got that I’d be participating got completely messed up, not because the guys were clueless, but because they were really good!

All the strategies I set out in my previous articles were used to good effect and I dread to think how good they will all be next season with the experience of an auction and a full season under their belts.

All I can say is it was enormous fun and I’m very much looking forward to a closely-fought season with plenty of competition and banter; I also look forward to you, the readers, joining in with the latter as I bring you regular updates as the season progresses.

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Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau

1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A. King Kane
    B. Wilson Lacazette

    1. Fantasynørden
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

  2. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is Heaton going to Villa? Pope is nailed on at Burnley then?

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      So it seems, but carrying an injury

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Looks that way, though Pope missed out in the last game with a groin strain I think.

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Hart set and forget 😉

    3. The 5% Team
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Risky to get Pope then...Burnley might start first game with Hart in goal 🙁

    4. Teror
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      This would be most beneficial for us FPL managers as Burnley are always good for clean sheets and Heaton at Villa will boost their defence, thereby making Villa's 4.5 defs appealing options.

    5. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Burnley play Parma this weekend.
      If Pope starts that game he'll be fine for GW1, if he doesn't don't risk it...unless rotating.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Good advice

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          And Mr Hutz knows good advice.

  3. Fantasynørden
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this team?

    Ryan
    TAA - Digne - Van Dijk - Zinchenko
    Zaha - Salah - Perez - Sterling
    King - Vardy

    (Button - Lundstram - Dendoncker - Greenwood)

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pretty standard on here - bench is screaming early WC - I like the Zaha pick.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Nothing wrong with that bench, Den will likely start and the other two get minutes at least. Not very often you need your second sub anyway 🙂

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          All it takes is a few little things like Zinchenko rotated for one match, a couple of blanks for King and rumours of a Perez injury and the WCs will be reached for en masse.

          1. Whazza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Hah, if all that happens at once you're unlucky but we have FTs to sort it out. Those are all cheapies so not the end of the world.
            You can always make the case of "what if".

            1. Now I'm Panicking
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              A player rotated for one match, one blanking a couple of matches and one having an injury rumour doesn't sound far-fetched to me!

              Re using FTs instead of WC - most people on here won't as they don't have the patience - they reach for the WC at the first sign of trouble, especially if they see others doing it and are missing out on players who are hauling - happens most years (Last year was an exception as the template did very well). I will play the WC if I need to, but I'd like to try to keep it as long as I can, and a slightly stronger bench hopefully should assist that.

              1. Whazza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I see where you're coming from, I also try to hold the WC. But I also like to save a transfer and 2 FTs can solve the occasional injury. Even three transfers for a -4 isn't the end of the world if you have someone dropped and someone injured/suspended/underperforming.

                Safer to start without Zinchenko I guess!

    2. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Zaha seems one to wait for, we don't even know in what team he'll play and if he'll start straight away. And if he doesn't move he might not be happy.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        So would try to find 0.5 for Fraser, can be downgraded after Fraser's two first games SHU, avl if things look good for Zaha

  4. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How is this team?

    Pope Button
    VvD Zinchenko Digne Dunk Lundstrom
    Salah Sterling Perez Moura Dendoncker
    Auba King Greenwood

    Thanks.

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pretty standard on here - bench is screaming early WC - I like the Auba pick.

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Liking the new catchphrase, APS did need replacing.

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          APS is the July catchphrase, this is the August one - just trialling it at the moment.

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Good. I think i wouldnt get aubame from the off. Spread the risk and you can always get him in later. You have the captain covered with salah and sterling

      1. Carlton P
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Auba + Moura could be Vardy + Son from gw3. I’m guessing that’s his plan

  5. BigBillyBass
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Please RMT

    Ederson (Button)
    TAA Robbo Digne Dunk (Simpson)
    Salah Sterling Brooks (Dendoncker Rice)
    Wilson Jota Deulofeu

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Simpson?

      1. BigBillyBass
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Standard 3rd bench fodder 4.0. Let's go Lundstram then.

    2. Maddi Son
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Like the bench pick. Wilson is screaming. Pretty standard on here.

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        What happens if Wilson blanks first 2?

        1. Maddi Son
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          What happens if every player in the game blanks?

          1. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I just think people expectations of results against ShefU H Villa A are too high

            1. Maddi Son
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Possibly. I'm happy with just one Bournemouth asset.

            2. Karan14
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              9-10 pts over those 2 games would be a success.

            3. Annie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Sheffield United, the favourites to go down?

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think you're going to be taking hits early on with that midfield

      1. BigBillyBass
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        What surgery would you recommend then?

  6. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    get Norris in before they remove him from the game à la Quaner 😀

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Who?

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Why?

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        lol

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      In my team!

  7. GXNG
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    how would you rank these teams in terms of goals expected for the first 6 gameweeks?

    1) Man United
    2) Chelsea
    3) Bournemouth
    4) Wolves
    5) West Ham
    6) Leicester
    7) Everton

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Very similar tbh.

      Probably Wolves scoring the lowest.

      1. GXNG
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        yeah i would agree

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Everton
      Bournemouth
      West Ham
      Man United
      Chelsea
      Wolves
      Leicester

      1. GXNG
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        interesting...

      2. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Everton could surprise us all tbh.

        Id really like an attacker but just cant fit one into my setup atm.

      3. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I agree that Leicester may not win many of the first 6 but I disagree they wont score.....and i think they score in all of the first 6

  8. Head Honcho
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Created that crazy draft of 451 including: Salah, Sterling, Kane & KDB

    Heaton
    Robertson Zinchenko Dunk Lundstram
    Salah Sterling KDB Perez Grealish
    Kane

    Button, Kelly, Nketiah, Greenwood.

    Thoughts? weak in defence I know.....

    1. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I predict gw3 wilcard after gw2 disaster when City and spurs play a tight low scoring game.

      1. Head Honcho
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Good prediction, I did well to wait on that wildcard last year but if I went with this draft I could see an early wildcard

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          See, told you it couldn't be done.

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I mean, if they changed Grealish to Dendonker, and upgraded Lundstram, or one of the 4.5m striker to someone who might play, then it's better, but still too much compromise.

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, crazy.
      As long as you're prepared to go with 9 players every week, it's fine. Too much of a compromise for me.

    3. Head Honcho
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah its a bit of a mess isn't it, too much compromise! KDB v Sterling

  9. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Would you change anything here?

    Heaton
    TAA - Robbo - Digne - Zinchenko
    Salah - Sterling - Fraser - Perez
    Wilson - Deulofeu
    (4.0 - DD - GW - LS)

    1. Chilli Heatwave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Not a fan of Digne but rest looks good

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        He does look the best option at 6m among all the players in that range given his attacking threat and the fixtures.
        Plus alot of option to exit if it doesnt work out.

        1. KunDogan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Agreed

    2. KunDogan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      No, she’s beautiful! 🙂

  10. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    For fpl draft, rank these forwards in order of preference, whom I should take a punt for the long term
    1) Pukki
    2) Che Adams
    3) Wesley
    4) Joelinton

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pukki & Adams

    2. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      1)

      29G 10A in the Championship is no joke

    3. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wesley with those fixtures

  11. Teror
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Seems like the Pog is staying at Man U now that Bale isn't leaving Madrid. This makes him impossible to ignore for me.

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If United manage to get Dybala & Bruno the team dynamics will change.
      He's wait and watch for me.

      1. Teror
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Pogba when he's been on form has been consistently amazing. And all the glory hunters will be on him, which will lead to price rises. I'm going to watch and wait but he's firmly on my radar.

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          No doubt he's on my watchlist too. Might get on him as early as GW3.

      2. OFord
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        We're not getting either

    2. Rock Papiss Cissès
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      The fact he plays for Man U makes it quite possible for me

      1. Teror
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah because he wasn't playing for Man United around Christmas time last year was he?

        1. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          He played well for about 4 games all season.

  12. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson
    Robbo,Taa,Laporte,Digne
    Salah,Perez,Sterling,
    King,Jota,Deu

    Above is my team, any comment would be welcome?

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Doubling up on City defence feels unnecessary for me. They're not THAT defensively amazing. Liv makes sense because they get a lot of clean sheets and attacking returns but if I was you I'd drop Laporte for a 4.5 and use the money on your bench, which is probably poo poo when you haven't even bothered to type it up.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Laporte to 4.0 m and Midfield 4.5 to Zaha?

        1. Teror
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Zaha it all depends if he stays at CP.

          1. Chelsea91
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks mate

      2. nisag17
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Huh? City not amazing defensively? They kept 18 in 17/18 and 20 last season.

        1. Teror
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          But look at the points accrued by Laporte and compare them to Robbo/VvD/TAA. I don't think it justifies a City defensive double up. Laporte and Ederson are always within a few points of each other, hence why I think it's better to go for just Ederson and spread the difference elsewhere. City are solid defensively, but they're not Liverpool's level last season and there are better ways to spend your money IMO

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            So which team other than Liverpool has defenders who score better than City's?

            1. Chelsea91
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Laporte is so good in set piece and Ederson can assist for the goal

    2. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I would go with one premium striker.

      What if Kane or Aguero explodes?

      1. Teror
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        So who would you drop out of Salah and Sterling for a premium striker? Because you can't have three big hitters and a balanced team.

        1. Chelsea91
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          yes , the only player i will drop for Ageuro is Sterling.

      2. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Already have sterling and salah, getting kane and ageuro will make team unbalanced.

    3. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I like it a lot!

      Would go Ederson->4.5 for Jota/Deu to Siggy/Bilva/Wilson.

      4 x 6.5 with Salah and Sterling will make it hard to get any 7-8M bandwagons

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Laporte or zaha?

        1. Whazza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Not following you, I meant 4 attackers at 6.5

          1. Chelsea91
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Ederson,
            Robbo,VVD,Coleman
            Salah,Sterling,Perez,Siggy
            Jota,King,Deu

            Look good?

            1. Whazza
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              I like that!

              1. Chelsea91
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Thanks mate

  13. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    First draft:

    Ryan, Button
    Van Dijk, Arnold, Wan Bissaka, Kelly, Rico
    Zaha, Salah, Maddison, B.Silva, Sigurdsson
    Kane, King, Greenwood

    Planning on playing 3-5-2.

    Thoughts?

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Watch Zaha his move makes him a doubt.
      You are taking a chance with that bench if there is any injuries.

      Looks ok overall though.

  14. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    how do you people feel maxing out on city and liverpool, clearly the two best teams but will they start that way? can i get your thoughts on the below:

    Fabianski
    Coleman Robbo TAA Zinch/Stones
    Salah Sterling Bilva Perez
    Wilson Ings

    Not sure on Ings but impressed with Soton so he could become Adams or anyone up to 6.5 really. Finding this slot the hardest to fill

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      The liverpool man city thing is making me think.
      They both will have bad fixtures gw3

      I am not sure there is anyway to avoid this without wrecking a team or wildcarding

      1. Maddi Son
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        City's fixtures are great from GW3?

      2. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        City are playing Bournemouth in gw3, that's a great fixture form an attacking point of view. I don't see a cleanie there for city though

      3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Sorry I meant Liverpool have bad fixtures gw3 Man City bad fixture gw2 along with spurs

      4. adams_6
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Arsenal at home is NOT a bad fixture. Not for Liverpool anyway. Check out their recent results at home against them

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Those Soton fixtures are foul. Even having been triple burnt by him last time I might have gone Ings had the fixtures fallen any other way.

    3. Chilli Heatwave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Not a fan of fab this year, either get 6.0 or 4.5 IMO. Also prefer Wesley to Ings

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Why is Fab a bad pick? He arguably underperformed last year with a low amount of CS and still came out pretty high up for GKs

        1. Chilli Heatwave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Not bad just don’t think provides value for money this year, but each to their own opinion

        2. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          +1

          I have 0.5m to spend and might just swap my 4.5m keeper for Fab

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            *Patricio

            15 of our man's points came from bonus. As against that, should get 2 or 3 more CS this Season.

          2. The 5% Team
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            start season with:
            Perez (not the best fixtures) or
            F.Anderson (bad opener, but great fixtures after)

            1. The 5% Team
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              reply/post fail

        3. dbeck
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Diop and Balbuena where brand new to the league, that partnership I feel can only improve. Great fixtures from GW2

        4. Maddi Son
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I agree.

          You know exactly what you're getting with Fabianski. You can be pretty confident of 140-160 pts and for 5.0 that's good value.

        5. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          People are being put off by the opener...which unless you are very early WC seems daft to me, he will rack the saves as usual I would think, is proven and I feel the 4.5's are not great value.

          1. dbeck
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            agree, in man city was GW4 and that Norwich fixture was GW 1, WH players including Fab would be in loads more RMTs

  15. Ready Manager One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    RMT pls 🙂

    Heaton
    VVD TAA Digne Zinc
    Salah Sterling Siggy Perez
    Wilson Jota
    (Button; Greenwood Dendoc Lundstrom)

    1. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      i like it, very similar to mine above. Cant really argue with it.

      What made you land on Jota with the long list of 6/6.5 striker options?

      1. Ready Manager One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers!

        Jota’s fixtures arent great but wolves did well against both big and small teams scoring wise.

        Happy to take suggestions for alternative options!

        1. dbeck
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I cant suggest better, I am struggling to fill that role so thought i'd ask for inspiration

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Heaton, Digne, Siggy and Jota question marks for me.

    3. El Puqi
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Standard. 🙂

    4. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nice, GK aside the same as one of my favoured drafts

  16. Rotation's Alter Ego
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    New FPL player added

    Cutrone - WOL - 6.0m - FWD

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mamma mia thatsa spicy meatball

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Good price could be an option if one of Jota or Jimi get injured.

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, watchlist material now.

    3. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nicely priced, anyone know his chances of starting, I assumed he was back up to Jiminez, and Jota.

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Jota got hauled a lot last season - I can picture him getting regular 30 minute run outs. I suppose EL may mean Jim gets managed too a bit.

        Apparently more of a Jim type but I’m finding it hard to believe that Jim would be under any danger from him given his recent record everywhere.

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks Pingu, I also can't imagine Jiminez getting benched for any PL games.
          I wondered if Jota might be pushed back into midfield at all?

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            That’s a worry no?

            Jota was going to be my 6.5 long term call come GW3 but reverse oop doesn’t feel good. He’s been downgraded to a wait and see for me.

        2. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          His minutes might be managed though. We just simply don't know yet.

    4. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Where’s Pepe come on

  17. Baps hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Cannot decide whether my rotation idea is sneaky or stupid. Which "starting pair" gets more points during the first two weeks?

    A) Kdb + King
    B) Gw1 Moura + Luiz
    Gw2 Haller + Perez

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I regret starting with King last year. Doesn't score enough away from home

  18. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I think it is time I step away from the screen.
    The warning sign is considering Mkhitaryan over Bernardo Silva.

    1. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I doubt Mkhitaryan will see many minutes once Pepe signs.

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        That is him out as an option so.
        Pity great player. Considered getting him end of last season before his run but did not - maybe I am points chasing in the new season!?

    2. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      go for a walk, clear your head

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        😀

    3. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      That is serious condition 🙁

  19. Tcheco
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    AWB or Coleman?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I feel if you're not confident enough about Everton keeping clean sheets gor for AWB.
      Coleman wont match Digne's attacking threat imo.

  20. Scheister
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A) Siggy & Brooks
    B) Milivojevic & Fraser

  21. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Which way round is better if nailed -
    Pope and AVL def. 9 mill
    Heaton and BUR def 9 mill

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I initially read nailed as naked

      1. Tcheco
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        If so then definitely Pope

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Too early to guess imo. If Pope doesn't start next, I wouldn't trust him.

    3. KingOllie
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      b

    4. The Wise Owl
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Avoid Burnley right now. Hart in goal and Pope is injured.

    5. Chilli Heatwave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A with Guilbert

    6. El Puqi
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pope & AVL

    7. el polako
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Villa fullbacks seem to be bit more attaciing than Burnley's so I would go Pope route.

    8. UshFPL
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pope and Guilbert due to his attacking threat. However, Pope isn't nailed

  22. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Brooksie recover?

  23. Tcheco
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Has to be a no brainer that Walker Peters is the nailed Spurs right back right?

    Foyth isn't a natural right back & Aurier hasn't played in pre season. Unless Foyth is a temporary solution until Aurier comes back.

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Will rotate with Foyth

      1. The Wise Owl
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Foyth banned for the first couple of games.

        1. Tcheco
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Nice! KWP it is then

      2. Tcheco
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I'm taking a gamble on KWP as part of a back 4, the price is way too good for a Spurs defender with those early home fixtures. One of Donkey, Lundstram & Greenwood would come in if he doesn't play

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Villa at home good.
          Man City away, not good.
          Then Foyth is back.

    2. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I don't think there is such a thing as a nailed Spuds full back. Pinochio rotates them all the time

  24. Nailed Jesus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone thinking about having Heaton (now at Villa) and Pope in goal?

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      both?
      no

      1. Nailed Jesus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        better chances of CS if you rotate them no?

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          At least better chance to have a playing gk if you have Pope anyway.

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Think Henderson and Heaton rotate better?

      1. Nailed Jesus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        dont have enough balls to go for two promoted sides in goal, could go badly wrong.

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Villa 1 loss in last 15 competitive matches and upgraded in key areas

          1. Nailed Jesus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            yea..hence going for Heaton, but don't fancy his chances in the first couple of games..

    3. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Rotating GKs always ends in tears. I've given up with that.

      1. Nailed Jesus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        would only be for short term i think. main thinking is i can take one out to free up 0.5 if one option becomes so much better than the other, either on WC or FT.

        1. adams_6
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Villa just promoted and Pope injury makes me want to avoid both.

          1. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            See points about Villa above

      2. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I always do 4.5/4.5 rotating keepers. Works for me

  25. The Frenchie
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Alisson

    Matip - Stones - Walker-Peters

    Salah - De Bruyne - Sigurdsson - Maddison - Trossard

    Kane - Jimenez

    (Button - Kelly - Simpson - Nketiah)

    1. FOMFF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I don't fancy Siggy or no Pool fullbacks. Maybe Jimi (who may not start GW1) to Jota then upgrade Matip? Siggy to Perez or Teilmans?

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bench is a deadweight if you need to made several changes

  26. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Those of us who can only afford one 4.5 gk and want Pope, what should we do? Considering his fitness doubts for first gw

    1. UshFPL
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Play it safe

    2. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      No idea what the Burnley GK hype is. Their fixtures are garbage early on, they don't defend as well as they used to and there is still plenty of competition for starting.

    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      don't get him.

      simple.

    4. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I would probably just go with Ryan and hope for the best
      I'm currently on Lloris but I might need that 1m

    5. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Avoid him? Ryan

  27. Ando
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How does this team look guys?

    Ryan / (Button)

    Robertson / TAA / Zinchenko / Holebas / (Kelly)

    Salah / Sterling / Gross / Barkley / (Dendoncker)

    Vardy / Wilson / (Wickham)

  28. Fantasynørden
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Perez or Tielemans?

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Perez for me

    2. FOMFF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Both!
      Perez for me

    3. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Perez for me

  29. kysersosa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Vardy....is he fixture proof?

  30. The Man Pastore
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is Gundogan nailed ? Would you consider him as the 5th mid in 3-5-2 ?

    1. - Z -
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      No

    2. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      absolute waste of a man city spot, avoid

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. And have him. 🙂

      1. The Man Pastore
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I like this pick!

      2. OFord
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        You'll be disappointed once the season starts then, enjoy