Scout Notes

Salah and Firmino get first pre-season minutes as Chelsea assets impress

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) and Alisson (£6.0m) featured for the first time in pre-season as Liverpool beat Lyon 3-1. 

Three of the other ‘big six’ teams were in action on Wednesday evening, too, with Chelsea’s attacking assets particularly impressing in a 5-3 win over Red Bull Salzburg.

West Ham United beat Hertha Berlin by the same scoreline, with Sebastien Haller (£7.5m) and Pablo Fornals (£6.5m) scoring their first goals for Manuel Pellegrini’s side.

Our Scout Notes article below explores all five matches in detail.

Liverpool 3-1 Lyon

  • Goals: Roberto Firmino (£9.5m), own-goal, Harry Wilson
  • Assists: Ki-Jana Hoever, Bobby Duncan

Jurgen Klopp used 27 different players as Liverpool bounced back from a 3-0 hammering by Napoli with a fairly comfortable win over Lyon.

Sadio Mane (£11.5m), who returns to training next week, is the only member of the Liverpool squad yet to feature in pre-season.

As well as Salah, Firmino and Alisson getting their first minutes on the board, Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.5m) and Naby Keita (£6.0m) also returned from injury to feature.

The Reds had struggled to carve out too many opportunities in the defeat to Napoli but were understandably a lot sharper and more creative with some of their big-hitters up front back.

Speaking after the match, Klopp said:

I think Mo is naturally fit and he can sprint all day, which helps us of course. It opens up the pitch, you can play much more football – not always between the lines, if you from time to time chip the ball in behind the line then Mo makes these offers which is very important for us.

Bobby in between the lines and in the box, present, really important.

Shaq did well and Naby Keita enjoyed the game as well, so that was really cool. With Mo it helped us a lot and with Bobby. 

Asked if Salah, Firmino and Alisson would be ready to feature against Manchester City in Sunday’s Community Shield, Klopp added:

I don’t know yet in the moment, so that’s how it is. We have to see. I don’t say 100 per cent not, there’s a chance that they will play, yes. They will be involved whenever, from the start, maybe we cannot make these changes like today after half an hour or whatever, that’s maybe not possible in that game so we have to see.

We have to see how they react tomorrow, now training is not the highest intensity anymore, now training is about the detail [and] we really need to prepare the game.

Firmino soon got off the mark when pouncing on a deflected Shaqiri cross to fire low past the Lyon goalkeeper and, while Salah’s shooting boots were left back in the changing room, the Egyptian nevertheless looked lively down the right flank.

Salah was withdrawn at half-time, with Firmino – along with Shaqiri – having been substituted after just half an hour.

Lallana Deep

Not for the first time in pre-season, Adam Lallana (£6.0m) was used in a deeper role in central midfield.

The former Southampton midfielder impressed as a ‘number six’, with Klopp opting to go without a recognised anchor in the centre of the park.

The tactic may be one Klopp considers in ‘easier’ fixtures, as the German coach was quick to point out the defensive drawbacks of such a set-up:

It helped a lot how Adam Lallana played in that position; it is difficult to play in that central position when you have such a good footballer who wants each ball.

It’s not too cool when you lose a ball there, to be honest, but all the rest was brilliant.

Today he looked really fresh, so for him the pre-season was very successful. On the position, it depends to the opponent and to the alternative and what you have. In a friendly, you can accept you can lose a ball there, but in a proper match, I am not sure.

He is a very smart footballer – a very, very smart footballer. He likes it but it is not his only position now, we don’t say he is a number six or nothing. 

Alisson’s Aim Not True

Following the trouble of Liverpool’s first-choice back four – especially Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) – in the defeat to Napoli, it was the turn of the normally dependable Alisson to drop a pre-season clanger.

The Brazil international fumbled an innocuous low cross from Liverpool’s right flank and then fouled Moussa Dembele when trying to retrieve the ball, with Memphis Depay converting the subsequent penalty.

Klopp wasn’t too concerned, saying:

We conceded an interesting goal with the penalty, that’s how it is [and] you can see in these situations that all the boys need to adapt to it again. It was only three weeks but now Ali is two days in training like Mo, like Bobby, like Naby and like Shaq, so that means they need just a bit of time but you see the natural quality of them as well and that helps us of course. All round it was a much better performance, but again, I said that will happen. 

Alexander-Arnold, along with Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) and Andrew Robertson (£7.0m), emerged as a 62nd-minute substitute and underscored his attacking threat, teeing Jordan Henderson (£5.5m) up for a chance and then seeing a free-kick sail just wide.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson (Mignolet 62′), Hoever (Van den Berg 46′, Alexander-Arnold 62′), Gomez (Matip 62′), Lovren (Van Dijk 62′), Larouci (Robertson 62′), Lallana (Henderson 62′), Keita (Lewis 46′, Wijnaldum 62′), Shaqiri (Milner 30′, Fabinho 62′), Salah (Duncan 46′, Elliott 62′), Wilson (Oxlade-Chamberlain 62′), Firmino (Brewster 30′, Origi 62′).

Red Bull Salzburg 3-5 Chelsea

  • Goals: Christian Pulisic (£7.5m) x2, Ross Barkley (£6.0m), Pedro (£7.5m), Michy Batshuayi (£7.0m)
  • Assists: Pedro, Pulisic, Barkley x2

With not one of their players costing more than £7.5m in Fantasy Premier League, Chelsea always looked as if they could potentially offer us up some bargain assets in 2019/20.

Wednesday’s eight-goal thriller in Salzburg would only have furthered the cause for optimism, with the Blues producing a slick attacking display at the home of the Austrian champions – although there are still question marks over the defence.

Mid-price Midfield Candidates

Saturday’s final pre-season friendly against Borussia Moenchengladbach may be the ultimate signpost to Frank Lampard’s Gameweek 1 line-up but the starting XI against Red Bull Salzburg may not be too far away from the one we see at Old Trafford.

With N’Golo Kante (£5.0m) still injured, Chelsea again lined up in a 4-2-3-1 with Jorginho (£5.0m) and Matteo Kovacic (£5.5m) as the deep-lying midfield pair.

The FPL midfielders we are most interested in are further forward, of course, and, in the absence of Willian (£7.0m), it was Pedro (£7.0m), Ross Barkley (£6.0m) and Christian Pulisic (£7.5m) who got the nod to line up behind lone striker Tammy Abraham (£7.0m) in Austria.

Pedro and especially Pulisic were excellent on the flanks but it was arguably Barkley who caught the eye most in ‘the hole’, producing two superb assists for his fellow attacking midfielders and scoring from the spot after Pulisic had been felled.

Pulisic said of Barkley’s raking pass for his second goal of the night:

I wasn’t even sure he was going to see me! That was the one I kind of received with my face, it was funny, but what an amazing pass and obviously I did the rest.

Our midfield has amazing quality, and the passes they can make and the movement in there is really good. It helps me so much with my game.

I’m really enjoying my football at the moment. Being at a new club is amazing, I’m really happy to be here, and the guys have been really welcoming. I have enjoyed every moment of it so far.

Barkley’s assist for Pedro’s goal was perhaps overshadowed by the Spaniard’s wonderful backheel lob but the winger paid tribute to Barkley after the game, saying:

Ross’s was a great ball to me and it was a special touch and a beautiful goal and I am very happy to do this.

Pulisic’s pace in behind the opposition backline caused plenty of problems, with a backpedalling Salzburg defence unable to do anything about the American’s two goals and then forced into bringing him down for the penalty award.

Lampard said of Pulisic’s display:

He showed his quality and I love the nature of his goals where he has an intention to run behind the line and not come short, and the finishing was good.

It is what he is going to have to do because he is going to play in the Premier League and the Champions League, this is the top end. A winger has to have the desire not just to be tidy but to be getting in behind people and then with his quality he can be a really big player for us.

He is a big signing for us with big potential but the big question is he has to adapt to a different league, but I have seen already a really good attitude and a willingness to listen to information. He is 20 years of age so we have to remember he is young. I am happy to work with him, I want him to improve him.

Don’t bank on Barkley for penalties

With Jorginho on the field, it was perhaps a surprise to see Barkley step up and take the spot-kick that Pulisic won in the first half.

It remains to be seen if the England midfielder is ahead of the absent Willian in the penalty-taking running order, however, with ‘in the know’ Twitter account CarefreeYouth suggesting that the Brazilian remains at the front of the queue.

William is not guaranteed to be a regular starter, of course, and as Salah proved last season, a deputy penalty-taker can still have plenty of joy from 12 yards.

Defensive Wobbles

While there was much to be positive about in attack, there were more problems at the back.

Kurt Zouma (£5.0m) and David Luiz (£6.0m) struggled at centre-half after the break, while Chelsea’s vulnerability at set plays was again apparent when they conceded from a corner early in the second half.

Salzburg’s second goal came from the penalty spot, while their third strike followed some hesitant defending in the Chelsea box.

Lampard said of the game:

Some really good play from us, some good goals, good combinations. Great attacking of the line from front men and wingers, which is a huge thing for me, and obviously conceding some goals with some sloppy moments from us.

They tested us on the ball, we succeeded at times and not at other times but I am pleased generally. Conceding in pre-season is something you don’t want to do but it is not the worst as it gives you things to address before the business starts.

Forward Thinking

Much uncertainty still surrounds the striker’s role at Chelsea.

Abraham got the nod to lead the line on Wednesday and has more pre-season minutes to his name than any other Chelsea striker but he was one of the Blues’ least-effective players and posed little goal threat.

Michy Batshuayi (£7.0m) came off the bench to grab Chelsea’s fifth goal so all eyes will be on Saturday’s starting XI to see which of Lampard’s three forwards he favours ahead of Gameweek 1.

Chelsea XI (4-2-3-1): Kepa, Azpilicueta (Zappacosta 82′), Zouma, David Luiz (Tomori 75′), Emerson (Alonso 75′), Jorginho (Kenedy 75′), Kovacic (Christensen 81′), Pedro, Barkley, Pulisic (Mount 75′), Abraham (Batshuayi 75′).

Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Bayern Munich

  • Goals: Erik Lamela (£6.0m), Christian Eriksen (£9.0m)
  • Assists: Georges-Kevin Nkoudou, Harry Kane (£11.0m)

Spurs lifted the Audi Cup after defeating Bayern Munich in a penalty shootout after the two sides drew 2-2 in normal time.

This was Spurs’ second game in two days following their win over Real Madrid and Mauricio Pochettino again restricted most players’ game-time to 45 minutes or less, with the exception of Moussa Sissoko (£5.0m) and Lucas Moura (£7.5m).

Line-up Lessons

Pochettino again favoured a 4-2-3-1 for this match, with an ‘out-of-position’ Lucas leading the line in the first half.

Dele Alli (£8.5m), who has operated in increasingly deeper midfield positions in the last year or so, was back in the number ten role and was flanked by Erik Lamela (£6.0m) and Georges-Kevin N’Koudou in the midfield three behind Lucas.

It was the two Spurs wingers who combined for the opening goal, with Lamela – one of the Lilywhites’ stand-out performers in pre-season so far – getting on the end of an excellent low cross from N’Koudou in the 19th minute.

Nine changes followed at the interval as Harry Kane (£11.0m) was brought on to lead the line, with Lucas dropping back into a wide role.

Son Heung-min (£9.5m) was stationed on the opposite flank and had two presentable chances when running through on goal, while Christian Eriksen (£9.0m) looked brighter than he had been against Madrid in ‘the hole’ and scored his first goal of pre-season when Kane teed him up in the Bayern box.

Kane was predictably more involved than Lucas had been as the spearhead of the attack, seeing a fierce shot parried over by Sven Ulreich and setting up Son for his best chance of the game.

Right-back developments

Spurs conceded two second-half goals to force the match into a shootout but a bigger concern for Pochettino would have been the loss of Juan Foyth (£5.0m) to injury.

With Serge Aurier (£5.0m) sidelined and Kieran Trippier sold, Foyth – who is admittedly suspended for Gameweeks 1 and 2 anyway – was one of two remaining options for the problem right-back slot.

The Argentina international was again deployed in this position in the second half but had to be substituted in the final quarter of an hour with an ankle injury.

The severity of the issue is yet to be determined by Pochettino said after full-time:

I need to talk with the doctor now. He twisted his ankle but at the moment I cannot update. I saw when he was leaving the pitch and he said to me it was his ankle and it was very painful. I don’t know but for sure we will get an update in the next few hours or few days.

Kyle Walker-Peters (£5.0m) remains the front-runner to start in the opening two Gameweeks and a medium-to-long-term injury to Foyth would only strengthen his hold on the position, barring further recruitment.

Spurs first half XI (4-2-3-1): Lloris, Walker-Peters, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Rose, Winks, Sissoko, Dele, Lamela, Nkoudou, Lucas.

Spurs second-half XI (4-2-3-1): Gazzaniga, Foyth (Marsh 77′), Alderweireld, Tanganga, White, Sissoko (Georgiou 84′), Skipp, Lucas (Roles 70′), Eriksen, Son, Kane.

Hertha Berlin 3-5 West Ham United

  • Goals: Pablo Fornals (£6.5m), Manuel Lanzini (£6.5m), Sebastien Haller (£7.5m), Grady Diangana (£4.5m), Michael Antonio (£7.0m)
  • Assists: Haller, Fornals, Robert Snodgrass (£5.5m), Carlos Sanchez (£4.5m), Javier Hernandez (£6.0m)

West Ham United doubled their pre-season goal tally in one fell swoop in Germany on Wednesday.

Sebastien Haller (£7.5m) and Pablo Fornals (£6.5m) both emerged from the match with a goal and an assist to their names, with Manuel Lanzini (£6.5m) also on target.

Fornals opened the scoring after being teed up by Haller and then freed Lanzini on the edged of the box for the Hammers’ second goal.

Haller himself scored West Ham’s next strike – their third equaliser of the match – when his header from a Robert Snodgrass (£5.5m) free-kick crept across the line.

Grady Diangana (£4.5m) ran onto a Carlos Sanchez (£4.5m) pass to put West Ham ahead for the first time before Michael Antonio (£7.0m) finished the scoring when rifling in from inside the Hertha box.

Injury updates

Angelo Ogbonna (£4.5m) returned from injury as a substitute in this match but there was still no sign of Mark Noble (£5.0m) or Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m).

The pair, who have a dead leg and a groin injury respectively, are not expected to remain sidelined for long.

Lukasz Fabianski (£5.0m) was a late withdrawal from the starting XI against Hertha but initial reports suggest his groin strain isn’t serious.

Line-up lessons

West Ham are blessed with a multitude of attacking options in midfield but the fact that Lanzini, Fornals and Felipe Anderson (£7.0m) started behind Haller for the second game running might be significant come Gameweek 1.

Anderson was again stationed on the right with Lanzini on the opposite flank, meaning that Fornals was free to roam behind Haller in a central position.

There were certainly promising signs in the attacking positions, with some lovely interplay between the Hammers’ front four.

Jack Wilshere (£5.0m) and Ben Johnson (£4.0m) were arguably the placeholders for Noble and Fredericks in the 4-2-3-1, while Roberto (£4.5m) filled in for Fabianski between the sticks.

Defensive Struggles

As slick as West Ham were in possession, they were worryingly fragile at the back – good news, perhaps, for owners of Manchester City assets ahead of Gameweek 1.

Declan Rice (£5.0m) was often left exposed as the sole defensive midfielder in the side, although Wilshere dropped deeper to help him out as the game went on.

Fabian Balbuena (£4.5m), arguably West Ham’s best centre-back, had an unconvincing game while budget FPL defender Johnson also struggled at times.

Roberto, meanwhile, didn’t fill his backline with much confidence and has now conceded nine goals in pre-season to Fabianski’s one.

In essence, little has seemingly changed from last season: only relegated Fulham and Huddersfield kept fewer clean sheets than the Hammers and there is no real sign that the defensive frailties have been addressed by their attack-minded manager over the summer.

West Ham United XI (4-1-4-1/4-2-3-1): Roberto, Johnson (Zabaleta 71′), Balbuena (Ogbonna 60′), Diop, Cresswell, Rice (Sanchez 60′), Wilshere (Snodgrass 60′), Anderson (Yarmolenko 60′), Fornals (Antonio 60′), Lanzini (Diangana 71′), Haller (Chicharito 71).

Angers 1-1 Arsenal (3-4 pens)

  • Goals: Reiss Nelson
  • Assists: Eddie Nketiah (£4.5m)

Alexandre Lacazette (£9.5m) wasn’t involved as Arsenal defeated Angers on penalties in their penultimate pre-season friendly.

The French striker had injured his ankle in Saturday’s defeat to Lyon but the news sounds fairly positive despite his lack of involvement in France last night, with media reports suggesting he has already returned to full training.

Mesut Ozil (£7.5m) and Sead Kolasinac (£5.5m) were also not part of Arsenal’s latest matchday squad, a week after they were the victims of an apparent carjacking attempt.

Young Gunners

From a Fantasy perspective, Arsenal’s match was possibly the least useful of the five friendlies contested on Wednesday night.

Unai Emery’s starting XI was a mixture of academy prospects and second-string players, although Nacho Monreal (£5.5m) could feasibly be part of the Gameweek 1 line-up.

The young Arsenal side never really clicked into gear and registered just two shots on target all match – one of which was their 49th-minute equaliser.

Reiss Nelson was the scorer of Arsenal’s only goal of the game, firing in the rebound after Eddie Nketiah‘s (£4.5m) shot had been blocked.

The likes of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m), Ainsley Maitland-Niles (£5.5m), Sokratis (£5.0m) and Henrikh Mkhitaryan (£7.0m) made it onto the pitch in the second half as Emery chased the game.

Aubameyang – on as a striker after several run-outs on the right flank this summer – had a goal ruled out for offside and ballooned a shot over, with both chances being created by Mkhitaryan.

The Gabonese striker, along with Maitland-Niles, Granit Xhaka (£5.5m) and Joe Willock, all scored from the spot in the subsequent penalty shootout but Mkhitaryan missed.

Pepe latest

Emery was asked about new signing Nicolas Pepe after the game, saying:

He played here in Angers a few years ago, and then in Lille. He has progressed as a player. We are speaking about a lot of players, we want to select on players who can really help us, give us big performances and improve our squad. We have different options.

Yes [he can play with Aubameyang], first because he is left-footed. We have a left-footer in Bukayo, a young player who has a big future for us. For example on the winger one left-footed player can play on one side or the other. It can give us different options.

Arsenal XI (4-2-3-1): Martinez; Chambers (Maitland-Niles 46′), Mustafi, Medley (Sokratis 46′), Monreal (Thompson 46′); Guendouzi (Mkhitaryan 63′), Burton (Xhaka 46′), Martinelli; John-Jules (Willock 46′), Nelson (Olayinka 82′), Nketiah (Aubameyang 63′).

741 Comments Post a Comment
  1. HVT
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Marvellous Son of Mossie!

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      *Mosie

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Shame it more than 20 characters!

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I’ve shortened it!
        🙂

  2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How much do you believe Pepe will cost in FPL?

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      8.5

      1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Could be a steal

      2. Revival
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Sterling was 11m at start of last season so I think Pepe should be at least 9.5m then.

    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      22g 11a in Lige 1. Id say 9.0

      1. Heskey Time
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        will be without penalties for arsenal but would still aggree with 8.5-9.0

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think he will be 9-9.5

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        A Pogba-ish 8.5m

    4. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      9

    5. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      And where is as important. 9m midfield or striker is quite different.

  3. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How is this team looking, anywhere need improving?

    Ryan Button
    Robbo VVD Coleman Cathcart
    Salah KDB Fraser Tielemans
    Kane Wilson

    Subs: Dendo Kelly Greenwood

    1. Heskey Time
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      wouldn't start cathcart everyweek

      1. Revival
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        He is more of a short-term punt, before jumping on a cheap defender bandwagon. He has good GW1 and GW3 fixtures. It a real struggle to find a decent 4.5m defender to play most weeks do.

  4. b91jh
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Very excited on the Pope/Heaton rotation but i I hate to see big points from the bench....

  5. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Harry Maguire for £80m, wow.

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'm sorry Utd fans but 80m for Maguire is ridiculous, no offence to the man.

      1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        It ain't my money, who cares...

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Similar to attitude to when Sanchez got that contract. Might not be your money, but has a damning effect on future planning, signings and renewals.

          1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Club is focused on profit and bussiness not on results. You can tell by the look of it. Same as Arsenal.

      2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        It's positively egregious.

    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Unbelievable amount of money for the slabhead

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        5.5m guys. That's all it means to us.

    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Done deal?

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I believe it is Utd's final offer, cos you know, they play hard ball in the transfer market.

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Sky said United are willing to pay it and that's expected to be their next bid, which matches Leicester's valuation.

    4. MyBall MyRules
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      As a red I've got to say its disappointing. There are players worth that, whether for marketable purposes or results. Maguire is neither.

    5. DAZZ
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      £80M for an average defender. He isn’t world class, maybe we could sell Lovren for £40M-£50M

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Lovren is the best defender on the world - £100M

    6. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      From Uniteds pov i see the point in it. Upgrade on the ones they have and will possibly make lindelof better. But ridiculous if compared with vvd. Much more complete as a centerback that dutch bloke

  6. Heskey Time
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Too weak in defense to get this attack?

    Heaton
    TAA, coleman, zinc or other 5.5
    sterling, salah, de bruyne, perez, barkley
    Wilson, Jota

    1. mxstro
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      kane over sterling maybe... you could do with the extra 1m for your defense.

  7. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pope (4.0)
    Laporte Robbo Digne A.Smith (Lundstrum)
    Salah Sterling Barkley Perez (Deondoncker)
    Kane King (Greenwood)

    Thoughts lads?

    1. Davekitson
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Tough dilemma, good to get the 3 big hitters in but your team suffers massively as a result, Smith in your starting XI, Barkley a risk and Wilson preferable to King

    2. Lav
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pretty much what I will try to achieve. I like it.

  8. LaLaLand
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Early prediction - Liverpool to miss out on top 4
    Can see City, United, Arsenal being top 3

    1. Heskey Time
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      You must be a United fan cause there is not a chance they get in second

      1. LaLaLand
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Actually a Liverpool fan but very disappointed by the lack of signings/pre season - we were very very lucky with injuries last year +everyone being rubbish - think this season will be a wake up call for us

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Predicting that we will fall out of the top 4 with United finishing on top of us is very over reactionary. Only Pogba gets in our XI. We have a better manager, defence, midfield and attack.

          Fair to say you don't think we will get that money points, we were lucky with injuries and that we may drop off.

          1. Lukakwho
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            don’t tell me allison is better than de gea please I can’t be asked.

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Don't be asked then. Alisson has had 2 better seasons in a row now.

                1. goriuanx
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  When football is too easy 😉

          2. bench boost for every gamew…
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Usually agree with you, but Pogba in pools first 11? For whom? Not a chance. He is so anti klopp footie as dybala, and the likes of robben. More skillfull than most but hardly effective in high pressing teams. Over hyped.

        2. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Some players will be back and while there is a concern wether those behind our trio on top can deliver, i think thar will go fine. Take kun and sterling out of city... it's exactly the same. As long as two can play it will be ok. Origi is capable, and Brewster is untested but alongside salah and mane for example, not a huge problem.

        3. beastie
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Spurs signed no one and didn't really suffer. Even if we stay as we were last season we'll be fine.

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A injury to one of Salah/Mane/Firmino leaves them very vulnerable for sure. Should be a more competitive tussle for the the top 4. I think Spurs will sneak a top 3 finish.

  9. Davekitson
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Almost there apart from one dilemma, which is better?

    A) Eriksen (Son GW2), Haller, Wilson
    B) F. Anderson, Kane, King

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Son is back week 3

      1. Davekitson
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        ahh my mistake! I'm currently Salah-less and questioning my life choices

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Unless you don’t have two captain worth players already then it’s B. Kane and sterling captaincy rotation is exceptional

        1. Davekitson
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          My team is looking like:

          Pope (Button)
          TAA - Robbo - Holebas - (Dunk) - (Lundstrom)
          Sterling - Perez - Anderson - Pogba - Siggy
          Kane - King - (Greenwood)

          currently, also torn on Zinchenko and 4.0 fodder vs Holebas and Dunk, don't feel right with a bench full of non starters potentially

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I would choose this team then. I like it a lot

            1. Davekitson
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              thanks a lot for the feedback, been stuck on it for a few days now which is always a positive sign! You'd take Holebas and Dunk over Zinchenko/Stones and a Martin Kelly type?

              1. Ask Yourself
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Currently yes until we know one of those is nailed. Or even a nailed 4m like Rico emerging would be cool

                1. Davekitson
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  brilliant thanks

      2. Davekitson
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Any reason in particular? Even though king is on pens I'm struggling to go without Wilson, rate him so highly

  10. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I'll say this quick, but Pepe, Laca and Auba all play in front of a likely nailed Ozil, assist king who costs the paltry sum of 7.5m.

    *runs out of room before the rotten fruit starts flyin' at him*

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I would rather eat my own eye balls

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Ozil couldn’t do this as his are too big

      2. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        😀

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Some good footballers in front of him we may get to see the real ozil again I don’t think you’re wrong to speak

    3. Davekitson
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      if they set up like that they'll be conceding 3-4 a game, though that makes the attackers more attractive as they'll need output to even get a draw

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        With Ceballos and Torreira in front of the defence? I'm not so sure, but let's wait and see.

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Don't quote me on this, and the Barca game will give a better indication, but I see the set up as:

          Leno
          Teirney/Conservative---Sokratis---Chambers---Monreal/Kolasinac
          -----------------Ceballos/Xhaka---Torriera/Guendouzi-------------------
          ----Pepe------------------------------Ozil----------------------------Auba----
          ------------------------------------Lacazette-------------------------------------

        2. Davekitson
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Torreira wilted massively towards end of last season, Ceballos a more progressive player so don't think either guarantees much security, particularly with Sokratis and rob holding CB and Kola/Monreal left back. Also Leno massively over-performed last season relative to his Bundesliga numbers so think he'll regress to the mean

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Pretty much agree, although Chambers has been pretty good so far. Arsenal still lack a real presence at the back.

    4. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      "Likely nailed" You think so?

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Unless Ceballos plays number 10 role. I see Ozil ahead of Mkhi otherwise.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Perhaps rotation between the 3, with Ceballos switching between CM and CAM

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            imho, Xhaka is the weakest link defensively. Apart of course from He who shall not be named, hopefully on his way to Monaco

        2. The 5% Team
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          what has changed compared to last year? He wasn't nailed at all then unfortunately

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Playing much better pre-season, apparently the air has been cleared (although this might be PR bollocks).

    5. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      the same Ozil who recorded less assists than Alexis Sanchez last season. A total of 3 assists in 2420 minutes across all competitions is awful.

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Agree, but the seasons before that the guy was incredible. Which Ozil do we get?

        1. Revival
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Prob more of the same from last season I'm afraid. Ozil played better under Wenger for sure and I wouldn't think he is a favourite of Emery's so expect odd benchings every now and then.

  11. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pretty happy with this Salah permaC draft..

    Heaton.
    TAA. VVD. Digne.
    Salah (c). KDB. Eriksen. Fraser. Perez.
    Wilson. Jota.

    Subs: Gash.

    Thoughts? 3-5-2 maybe being overlooked on here

    1. MyBall MyRules
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Looks like you've lost sterling so you can squeeze eriksen in. Wont be many fans of that on here, me included.

  12. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What would you be your top tips for a brand new FPL player this season

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Play the game the way you want and learn from your own mistakes.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Read all the articles under these here tabs.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        And ask yourself what you've been doing for the last eight years.

    3. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Transfers are precious. Avoid hits

    4. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Never make sober decisions for FPL and never come here one hour before deadline of GW transfers

    5. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Post 1000 RMT on here until someone says it’s good

    6. Davekitson
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Try and have at least one guaranteed starter on the bench but also minimise wasted value on the bench, easy to find a 4.5 starter in midfield not so much a 4.5 attacker

    7. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Set some basic simple rules and stick to them.
      For example:
      - If stuck between a choice of which of 2 defenders to start always play the one the home/more favorable fixture.
      - Midweek games must be played before transfer are made
      - When making a transfer the incoming player spends at least 4 gameweeks in your team thereafter

    8. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Avoid D/M's like Gundogan.

    9. Navispar
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Don't pick players because you like them, understand how the scoring works and use you wild card early to correct the mistakes you are going to make week 1.

    10. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      avoid players from newly promoted teams
      avoid players who are not guaranteed starters
      avoid injury prone players
      avoid yellow/red card magnets
      avoid overspending on the bench at expense of the starters

  13. falafel
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A: Bilva and KDB
    B: Ceballos and Sterling

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A with Siggy

  14. Clogstar
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Help please 🙂 -Not sure on GKs

    Ryan
    Robertson VVD Dunk
    Salah Sterling Perez Fraser
    Kane Wesley

    Subs: 4.5GK Kelly Guilbert Greenwood

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      missing a player?

    2. Clogstar
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Dendonker sorry

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Not sure on playing Dendocker each week but I have a similar set up and might need him to step in for my 4.5 def. Looks as good as it gets for SSK

    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Decent

      1. Clogstar
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers lads

  15. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Salah looks remarkably like Isaiah Edwards from Little House on the Prairie.

  16. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Spurs now making an approach for Bruno Fernandes. Oh boy this is going to be the most competitive season yet everyone is catching up to pool and city whilst they sit still

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Liverpool seem to be sitting still

    2. RichardNixon
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      as a replacement for Erikssen I would assumer

    3. MyBall MyRules
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ndombele is a great signing, and Fernandez would probably be worth the money, but city are still way ahead
      I say that as a Man U fan

  17. Four Hit Wonder
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pepe or Auba?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Auba

  18. Alexis Nonsense
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pepe to Arsenal is weird...

    They have no defence, and a midfield of one fortnite player and underwhelming names

    PSG syndrome?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Salty

      1. Alexis Nonsense
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I mean, I love that he's coming to PL and really don't care which team

        But 4 clean sheets...let's get Pepe xD

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sounds a bit salty.

      They're scoring their way into the top 4, which is an approach that has been successful with other teams.

      1. Alexis Nonsense
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Alright then, I'll concede

        Just look like a really poor team if you cut those three up front, and top 4 last season had great defences

    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Spurs fan?

      1. Alexis Nonsense
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This is probably like swearing in church, but I have no team

        I just like PL

        1. La Roja
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Fair play fella

    4. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Reminds me of Utd's approach in Fergie's last season when Utd had no defence or Midfield at all. Plan was to just outscore the opposition everyweek, it's ok if you score 3 goals cause we will score 4 approach. Will win plenty of games but unlike Man Utd it won't win Arsenal any trophies.

      1. RichardNixon
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Real and Barca do it all the time including this season. Their defence isn't flash and they focus on the likes of Greizman, Hazard, Neymar for huge money and don't do much about the back-line. Attacking players are more marketable I guess

    5. TAT
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Arsenal will never be able to afford a world class CB in the current market. They're probably still looking at options that fit their budget.

      They needed a winger too, and the Nicolas Pépé deal is a steal if the reports of how the payment of by instalments are to be done are correct.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        To be fair, Arsenal are not alone.
        When this season's FPL prices were out we all wondered at the defenders' prices and remark what bargains they are and how 5 at the back is the way forward.
        Yet what strikes me over the pre-season is how woeful all defences have been, particularly Liverpool's.
        Now it's only pre-season and all that, and I'll stand up and say I'm still going 5 at the back, but I have to say, I'm nervous for defences this season.

        1. RichardNixon
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Indeed. Looking at last year's numbers and the first few fixtures for this season the value appears to be in the defence eg Liverpool and Everton. I'm on a back four atm and will roll with it but may look to WC in a couple of game weeks

    6. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Going for a great attack and neglecting defense for a while was how Liverpool got back to the top. Only very recently did they fix their defense. Its easier to add a stable defensive core after you have a good attack than to do it the other way around and try to play attacking football after focusing on defense first.

  19. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What is the expected first 11 for WHU? Is Yarmalenko part of it?

    1. The 5% Team
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      looking at the last few matches, he is not

      1. chaser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        So for WHUs good run, it has to be Haller or Anderson really?

  20. mcsteely
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Any feedback on this bunch?

    Ederson, (Button)
    Robbo, TAA, Digne, Dunk (Lundstram)
    Salah, Sterling, Milli, Tielmans, (Dendoncker)
    Jimi, Delo, (Long)

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Decent, I’d lose Milli tho

      1. Navispar
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Milli scored 10 pens last season, VAR coming in this season.......

  21. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pick one amigos:

    A) Bilva+King

    B) Fraser+Wilson

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      The more expensive one.

    2. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      This isn't really a questio
      B ofc

  22. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I’m pretty set starting without Salah.

    He was awful yesterday. I feel he needs few weeks to get going

    1. Lav
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Whats your route into getting him in? WC?

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        No idea yet. I’m trying to get players who showed form during preseason. Apart from Barkley who will be shite forever

        1. Lav
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Ahhhh someone else who realizes.

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            😀

            1. Chazz69
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Agreeing 100 % with you on the Barkley view !!!

  23. Limbo
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Wicket!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Lucky to be over 200.

      1. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah. Should have knocked down siddle before this. Anderson/Archer offer the pace to wipe out tailenders

        1. Dr. Rog
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Archer isnt playing.
          Anderson injured after 3 overs

          1. Limbo
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Exactly why I said it.

  24. Lav
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Robbo or TAA?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Trenty boi

    2. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      TAA for me.

    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Gomez could be slight risk to TAA minutes. Robbo doesn’t have competition

      1. chaser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I agree. But if you have a decent 12th man, having TAA is worth it due to better points per game I think

  25. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    quite a few potential gems in midfield this year @ £7.50
    Moura, Martial, Fraser, Pulisic, Dilva, Ozil

    of course they all have their issues but equally (with the exception of Fraser perhaps) are 9-9.5 players if they nail a place

  26. simong1
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Team A or B the stronger?

    A

    Pope (Button)
    TAA, Robbo, Zinchenko, Dunk (Lundstram)
    Sterling, Salah, Perez, Barkley (Dendoncker)
    Kane, King (Greenwood)

    B

    Pope (Button)
    TAA, Robbo, Zinchenko, Dinge (Lundstram)
    Sterling, Salah, KDB, Barkley (Dendoncker)
    Jota, King (Greenwood)

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I like A optically, but stats wise B will score more over a season unless you get a lot of mileage out of captaining Kane over Salah/Sterling

    2. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'm on the same team as B more or less (Robbo > Coleman and King > Wilson). . I like the Barkley pick. Think he'll start.

  27. Sharkytect
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Here we go then:

    Lloris
    TAA, Digne, Taylor
    Salah, KDB, Perez, Barkley
    Kane, Wilson, Jota

    Rubbish on the bench (although including Noble instead of a 4.5mid)

    What do you think?

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      very cool team, great structure, looks flexible to jump on whoever you need to.

  28. leo_messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Does anyone know if Ederson will be ready for gw1?

    1. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Community shield should tell more

  29. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who are the 2 best 4.0 defenders? Might have to get 2 of those on my bench... Unless I'm willing to downgrade one of TAA/Robbo to VVD

    1. abcdef3
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kelly and Lundstram have both played over 300 minutes in pre season, so I would assume that they're the best

  30. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Has Che adams featured in any SOT preseason yet?

      1. Daniel Exeter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers guys

    1. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Well yeah and has scored 3 I believe