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That doesn’t change the fact that what you wrote was factually incorrect 🙂

You admitted that your first post was incorrect - and that some, even many people do in fact care, and that you shouldn’t presume to speak on behalf of potentially large groups of people. -look up a few posts, it’s there plain as day 🙂

Yeah, I personally don’t know Bilva as a person, so I’m not even going to try to second guess his intentions

What I do know is that he has posted material that could very easily (and already has by some) been construed as racist

You & I can only give our personal opinions on whether we find it racist or not, and our own subjective guesses as to what Bilva’s intentions were - unfortunately however we cannot say that it wasn’t racist, it’s just not within our personal remit to do so

I think we both agree on the majority of the issue though - as do most folk in the thread which is encouraging

You don't have to second guess about his intentions. It was a post about aimed at his teammate and colleague after a big win. Of course he did not mean in a vile way. One has to see in the context it is brought.

That being said, it was still a stupid post. And yes we agree. It can be percieved as racism. And after being explained about the cariature I understand why. But I still find it sad that some poeple use it to go nuts and Silva and calling for a ban etc when it is clear, that he did not have bad intention with the post. It's uncalled for as we do know he did not have any bad intentions. That was my point.

I definitely think the broader point is Bilva needs to avoid this type of situation by in future not posting material that could be construed as racist on social media - regardless of intentions being good, bad, or indifferent

It has just been blown out of proportions... and that is unfortunate. As I said earlier. We should spend our energy and time on fighting the racist people and educating those who unintentionally brings forth a remark, that can be percieved as racism. Maybe I should have wrote that instead.

Yep, Bilva (and his peers where necessary) need to be educated that it’s unacceptable to post material that could be construed as racist on social media, regardless of whether their subjective intentions were good, bad or indifferent

because of the way you act*

Was that aimed at me? What did I actually post that offended you?

no mate, my post is aimed at the poster calling people rat, waste of skin, idiot! Should be banned!

Oh okay, that is very reasonable then! Just got confused as your comment dropped in right below mine! Hope your having a good gameweek mate!

It's ok but no KDB or Lundstram bench points for me plus I lost Palace CS (PVA + Zaha) in 97th minute 🙁

To be clear I haven’t accused anyone of being racist - point out where I have done so?

Bilva has however, posted material which could very easily be (and has been by some) construed as racist

And I’ve also said neither you (nor I) can say the material is not racist - we can only give our personal opinion on whether we find it racist or not - there’s a huge difference

It was clearly inferred by you with emotive language such as “defence” and “warning sign”. Wtf? Cut it out.

It wasn’t a racist post (imo). Is it unintentional racism? Yes. Can it be construed as a racist post? Yes.

I’m sorry but it is 100% a warning sign that when “it was just banter” is used in defence of an action, that action was questionable - and Bilva’s actions were extremely questionable in this case

If you inferred that I was accusing you of being racist, however, you are incorrect as I categorically was not - albeit I do agree with you that Bilva acted with extremely poor judgement in this case, regardless of anyone’s personal opinion on his intentions being good, bad or indifferent