Pro Pundits

How formation changes got the best out of Salah and De Bruyne in Gameweek 17

One of the world’s best FPL managers, Tom Freeman, takes a closer look at advanced central roles for Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Salah in his latest Pro Pundits piece.


There are many ways to play Fantasy Premier League.

Some managers will be more aggressive in their approach, whilst others play a more patient game.

On Saturday, as Liverpool’s line-up leaked on social media ten minutes before the Gameweek 17 deadline, I saw an opportunity to make a gain.

The midfield was likely to be a two-man unit, with Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) starting alongside Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m), in an expected 4-2-3-1. 

Mohamed Salah’s (£12.2m) best goalscoring form has come when leading the line in a 4-2-3-1, with Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) positioned in the pocket just behind, and this trend continued against Watford, with the Egyptian not only scoring twice but also causing the Hornets defence problems all afternoon.

No player attempted more shots in the box than Salah’s seven this week.

The 2-0 win over Watford means Liverpool have scored two or more goals in 24 of their last 26 league outings. The 1-1 draw at Old Trafford and the 1-0 win at Sheffield United are the only games in which they failed to do that.

A Salah and Sadio Mané (12.2) attacking double-up, from Gameweek 19, is something I’m thinking about.

On Sunday, it was Pep Guardiola’s turn to shake things up. His favoured 4-3-3 surprisingly made way for a 4-2-3-1 (sounds familiar right?!), with two holding midfielders and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.3m) as a no. 10.

Unshackled, De Bruyne was on another level, and the most advanced Manchester City player:

De Bruyne’s 19-point haul, combined with Salah’s brace and a Sheffield United defensive double-up, contributed towards my Gameweek 17 score of 80 points, which has seen my overall rank rise to 50,107.

As I plan to activate my Wildcard soon, my next moves are essentially one or two-week punts, with Jack Grealish (£6.2m) and Adama Traoré (£5.2m) both under consideration.

Whilst there is a bit of worry amongst Aston Villa fans right now after several below-par team performances, Grealish still interests me, and I do think if Villa are going to score, he will be involved.

A slightly cheaper option is Traoré, who’s been playing on the right of Wolverhampton Wanderers’ front three in recent weeks. He’s a player who looks almost impossible to stop when he gets going and is also a bit of a differential, owned by only 5.4% of squads. 

Despite this, it’s worth noting that while an away trip to Norwich City sounds like a fixture to target, only Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City have given up fewer big chances than the Canaries over the last five Gameweeks. That suggests it’ll be a tighter game than many think.

Going forward, I’m also keeping Michael Antonio (£6.9m) in mind. Against Southampton, Antonio and Sébastien Haller (£7.0m) made their debut as a strike duo, in a 4-4-2, and thrived. The 1-0 scoreline could have been even better for West Ham United, had Antonio’s goal in the second half stood. It was the second time he’s seen a goal disallowed for handball in three weeks, having also had one ruled out at Chelsea.

Now, the Hammers have a nice break to refine the system before their next match at Crystal Palace in Gameweek 19.

So, here is how I’m currently set up ahead of Gameweek 18, with one free transfer and £1.3m in the bank. 

Grealish, Traoré, Richarlison (£7.9m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) are all on the Watchlist, with one or two likely to come in ahead of Saturday’s deadline.

Re captaincy, I’m currently on De Bruyne, but Grealish is another candidate having returned 25 points over his last three games at Villa Park.

I currently have the vice captaincy on Dele Alli (£8.7m) but that will likely be removed. 

Alli does have more goals against Chelsea than any other club but I do have concerns about Spurs and their ability to control games with their current midfield options. I’m just not sure they’ll get the balance right when selecting two of Eric Dier (£4.9m), Moussa Sissoko (£4.9m), Harry Winks (£5.2m) or Tanguy Ndombele (£5.8m), but captaincy decisions will likely go right to the wire.

Thanks for reading… until next time.


Tom Freeman – aka avfc82 – comes onto the team to make most of us feel wildly insecure about our overall rank history. A long-time Fantasy Football Scout user, he has finished inside the top 1,000 a staggering five times since 2009.

1,206 Comments Post a Comment
  1. AbsolutelyNoIdea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Any suggestion?

    Heaton (Pope)
    Chilwell, Rico, Lord, Kelly (TAA)
    Maddison, KDB, Alli, Grealish (Mane)
    Jimmy, Vardy (Mousett)
    1FT 0.4

    A) Save
    B) Chilwell to Aurier
    C) Mane to Son
    D) Chilwell to Otamendi

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A, play Mousset over Chilwell?

      1. Teahupo'o
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        A

    2. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Looks very good so I’d still save.

    3. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      TAA to Aurier?

    4. bautasten
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A

    5. AbsolutelyNoIdea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Thankyou all

  2. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    What to do here chaps?

    Guaita
    Rico Lundstram Soyuncu Kelly
    Alli KDB Maddison
    Vardy Mousset Rashford

    McGovern* Dendoncker* Mane* TAA*

    1 FT & 0.5m ITB

    A) Mane ➡ Son(c)
    B) Mane Mousset ➡ Jimenez Son(c) -4
    C) Mane Mousset ➡ Grealish Kane(c) -4
    B) TAA Mousset ➡ Jimenez(c) Aurier -4

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I like A, but wouldn’t you want Mane back? WC’ing soon?

    2. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Wouldn't lose Mané for Son as you've got Alli, so the second B)

      1. The Count of Monte Cristo
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Would you say the same if he had a WC available?

        1. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          I'm in same position and keeping Mané due to value tied up.

    3. bautasten
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A or save imo. How much did you pay for Mane?

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        12

        1. bautasten
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Could be worth it then. Not losing much (if anything) if you want Mane back later.

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Leaning towards bringing Kane and Grealish tbh

            1. Pompel
              • 10 Years
              4 years, 5 months ago

              That'll mean restructuring to get Mané/Salah back, so make sure you have a plan for that

            2. Teahupo'o
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 5 months ago

              All good options, mate. Especially if not much valued tied to Mane.

    4. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A, why isn't Sterling an option for you?

  3. Teahupo'o
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Simply sublime.

    https://i.imgur.com/RFGXHZT.gif

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Truly stunning

    2. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Messi couldnt do that with stilts

  4. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Henderson
    Lundstram-Kelly-Guilbert
    KDB-Grealish-Son(c)-Hayden
    Vardy-Rashford-Tammy
    Button - Söyuncu, Mane, TAA*

    ITB 1,7

    Worth to take a hit for TAA -> Aurier and bench Hayden?

    Wont be playing TAA for the GW 19 anyway and Spurs have nice fixtures coming up. No value tied to TAA. Would allow me to do later:

    Tammy -> Kane or KDB -> Salah

    is this crazy or a good plan?

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I think you’ve talked yourself into it. I think it makes sense given what you’ve said below your team.

      1. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        It would be my first of the hit season.. things have gone well to this point without so im bit hesitant to do it.

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Not a hit

  5. bautasten
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Evening! 1 FT 0.0 ITB. What would you advise?

    A) TAA, Maddison -> Targett, KDB (-4)
    B) Mane (bought at 11.8) -> KDB
    C) Save

    1. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      B

      1. bautasten
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks

  6. The Count of Monte Cristo
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    WC to use 19/20. Mané + Cantwell —> Alli + Richarlison (-4) worth it?

    Henderson
    Lundstram - Rico - Willems // (Tomori - VVD)
    KDB - Son - Maddison - Cantwell // (Mané)
    Vardy - Abraham - Greenwood

    1. bautasten
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Yes with the WC in hand I like that gamble.

      1. The Count of Monte Cristo
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Only have 0.1m of value tied up in Mane too

        1. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          No brainier then. Wish I had my wildcard...

  7. Tomas_brolin
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    1. Start Cantwell or Soyuncu this week?

    2. mane to son (c) for a -4? I have Alli but don’t fancy captaining him. And will prob get Salah in for GW20

    1. bautasten
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      1. Cantwell
      2. Don't think I'd do it for a hit but depends on your playing style.

    2. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Cantwell and worth a hit.

    3. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Son worth a hit over 2-3 gw’s

  8. xtina
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Sterling or Son for next couple of GWs? (WCing GW20)

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Son for me but Sterling can easily outscore anyone at any time.

    2. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Sterling

  9. EL tridente
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Henderson (Button)
    Soyuncu, Lundstram, Guilbert (Robbo, Diop)
    Son, Maddison, McGinn, Shelvey (Salah)
    Vardy, Rashford, Tammy

    What to do with this squad? Have one free transfer, 0.6 in the bank
    A) Diop to Kelly
    B) Diop to Fernandez
    C) Salah to KDB
    D) Maddison to Richarlison
    E) Robbo to Maguire

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Diop out for someone sounds good. Kelly is a good option until the injured Palace defenders are fit.

  10. SALVA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Anything worth FT here? Maybe Connolly to Greenw? 1.2 ITB

    Guaita
    Kelly, Soy, Lund
    Son, KdB, Maddy, Alli
    Vardy, Ings, Connolly

    Mane, TAA, Reid

  11. Greyling
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    What to with the following team for GW18? 2FT available.

    Pope
    Lundstram, Kelly, Chilwell
    Son, Maddison, Cantwell, Mount
    Vardy, Jimenez, Abraham

    Bench: Pieters, Mane, TAA

    1. TAA to Aurier
    2. TAA, Mount to Aurier, Martial
    3. Mount, Chilwell to McGinn, Soyuncu
    4. Maddison to Martial, Jimenez to Rashford next week.
    5. Other

  12. Teahupo'o
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Anything worth a hit?

    Pope
    Lundstram Kelly Rico
    Son Alli Grealish Cantwell
    Vardy Kane Rashford

    (Button, Williams Soyuncu Mane)
    0FT 2.3ITB

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      No, good to go

    2. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      This team is awesome for next few GW's. You'd like to get at least one of Salah/Mané and possibly KDB back after new year, though

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        😳
        Didn't see Mané on bench

      2. Teahupo'o
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers. Mane is tucked away in the corner there. 😉 KDB is the one I'm worried about. Hopefully it can wait.

    3. Teahupo'o
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Thank you both.

  13. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Save FT here?

    Gaz
    Lord Soy Rico
    KDB(C) Son(VC) Alli Cantwell
    Vardy Abra Mousset

    (Salah Trent Robbo) 0itb

    Very happy with my squad (after the blank).

    1. Teahupo'o
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      G2G

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers!

  14. Heiro
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all,

    A: Madison to Son/Ali
    B: Abraham to Rashford
    C: Mane to Son/Ali (Can sell for 12.1 and can do Madison to Salah/Mane next week)

    Got no Tot or United cover

    Many thanks

    1. Rash
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      C

      Dont need united cover imo

  15. Rash
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Delle Alli has a good goal record against chelsea, am I overthinking it by not opting for Son instead?

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I prefer Son, some prefer Alli. Both are good options.

  16. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Hi Guys

    Pick 2 to play from

    Pereira (mci)
    Aurier (CHE)
    Lundstram (bri)
    Guilbert (SOT)

    Playing Kelly atm

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      C + B/D

  17. Ribus
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Mane will not drop tonight, right? At -84 % now..

    1. Pumpkinhead
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Let me get my crystal ball out

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Let me know what it says!

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          'Looks good' that is all I'll say.

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            #confused

  18. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Damn it now Tom/ AVFC82 has made me unsure of my Alli captaincy pick!!

    Choice of Alli, Son, Vardy, Ings, Grealish

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Pick who you think is most likely to score most points

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Not a clue tbh. Not an easy decision imo. Stats, fixture and form all give multiple answers

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Agree is not easy. Maybe going with your gut is the right call this week.

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah I think I’ll just stick with Alli. Prob will fall flat but I’m getting used to that this season 😆

            How’s your lot looking this week Jarv?

  19. HD7
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Lets make an interesting discussion:

    How would the template look around GW19-GW25?

    Something like this maybe:

    Ramsdale
    TAA Aurier Kelly Rico/Dunk
    KDB Son Alli Salah/Mane
    Rashford Vardy

  20. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    4.9 for a keeper any ideas?

    1. antis0cial
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Ramsdale?

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        .. or Gazza or Pope or Henderson or Ryan

    2. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Pope or Ryan. Foster if you feel you like a punt

    3. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Put some names in a hat and pick one.
      If you fancy a punt Tim Krul. Has 2 pen saves and McGovern got one when he was out injured.

  21. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    I need to ditch one of Abraham or Rashford to allow cash for KDB.

    Only thing is that both these players are the main outlet for their teams.

    Stick or twist.

    1. George James
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      lose tammy. Im doing tammy > Rash I think

      Thoughts below mate

    2. alltheballs
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      twist and shout

  22. George James
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Want to do Tammy >> Rashford so need to down grade someone by 1.1m to make the move. best one? (both moves for free)

    A) Mane >> Alli

    B) Zaha >> Traore

    C) TAA >> Aurier

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      B

      1. S3
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        C

    2. DMP
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Still with WC?

    3. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      C if Zaha is starter.

  23. LM00091
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    G2G GW18?

    Ryan / (Button)
    Lundstram, Baldock, Kelly (Rico, Söyüncü)
    KDB, Son, Grealish, Maddison (Mane)
    Vardy, Rashford, Abraham

    Can't decide on the defence....

  24. Kane Train
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on Mane > Martial just for the 1 or 2 weeks.

    1. alltheballs
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I think they are both beautiful souls

    2. DMP
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I did it. Look below.

  25. Where dahoud at
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Best keeper for 4.9 to see me overy xmas

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Can you find 0.2 for Guaita

      He is immense

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Hendo, Ramsdale

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Ramsdale. And not just over X'mas.

  26. Klaren
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    I was planning to bench Zaha but realised Newcastle concedes majority of the chances from their right side. Who would you bench out of the following?

    A) Zaha
    B) Grealish
    C) Martial

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Newcastles right is Palaces left?

    2. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      If you want to bench Martial then sell him.

  27. Ziyech on the Bench
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Mane to Son for -4?

    I am currently playing back four instead so essentially is -4 + Rico/Aurier depending on who I would bench for points lost.

  28. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone going Lucas Moura?

  29. acidicleo
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Play one:

    A) Masdison (vs city)
    B) Cantwell (vs wolves)

    Cheers.

    1. DMP
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Mads.

  30. DMP
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Anything worth an hit?

    WIldcarding 19/20.

    Ryan
    Kelly Lund Rico
    Son Alli Kdb Martial
    Vardy Jimmy Rashford

    Button Mount Soy Robertson

    1. AbsolutelyNoIdea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Nope

    2. Beizer
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      If Rico is injured (some posts in this forum saying that he wasn't training) maybe Robertson to Doherty?!