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Eliteserien Round 3 – Where has all the money gone?

We sit here on the eve of Round 4 in the Eliteserien still awaiting a Rosenborg win. Although they managed to score twice (will let them claim that own goal as their goal – I think they need it, to be honest) they remain winless, languishing above the relegation zone on a single point. You’d have to be more than brave to suggest they are in any real danger of dropping out of the division but at the same time, you’d be labelled something close to mad if you were to suggest they are in any way shape or form title contenders this season. Finishing third again has to be the aim – oh how the mighty have fallen.

I wanted to start by highlighting Rosenborg’s poor form because it plays into what I am looking at this week – are we getting our money’s worth? Are the most expensive players in the game worth investing in? Or can we find better deals elsewhere? If you are sitting there looking at your team and you have even one Rosenborg player, let me tell you… you’re being conned.

Three gameweeks in and we have already had eighty-four goals. That’s eighty-four goals in just twenty-four games. If you can’t be bothered to do the math, it means we’re seeing 3.5 goals a game. With games averaging over 20 shots, it’s hardly surprising we’ve only had 10 clean sheets from a possible 48. This league is full of goals which is what makes it to me so entertaining to watch. This is football 101 – get the ball and try and score. Put it in the back of the net and if you let one in, make sure to score another. It may not be to everyone’s taste but I love it.

Now on to what I want to talk about. How well are we, as Fantasy Football Managers, managing our finances? At the start of the season, we were given a 100mNOK budget and I’m interested in working where the majority of that money has gone. Have we focused too much on premium assets that we’ve sacrificed squad stability and balance, or have we prioritised building balanced, well-thought-out teams with as little of our budget being spent on big-ticket assets?

Some managers prefer to get as many premium players into their squads as possible. It may seem outrageous to some of us, after all, what if one of those big-name players doesn’t perform? Your rank can take a nosedive. Of course, when they do perform, they have such high ceilings it can often offset the risk so much it’s worth doing.

Other players (yours truly included) favour a more conservative approach in picking as few premium options as possible, as to afford more balance, adaptability and more importantly, point-scoring options who are more likely to grind out returns throughout the season, albeit with a much lower points-potential.

As far as I’m aware, these are the two most employed strategies when approaching with Fantasy Football – hold your cards close to your chest, biding your time, or throw caution to the wind and go all in. More often than not as the season pushes along, those who favour one approach might start to favour the other, being sure to be flexible in the face of change.

But the question still remains: do we buy the flashy convertible, throw back the roof, put metal to the floor and drive with the wind in our hair like we’re born to die, or do we buy a Volvo? Panache vs practicality.

The biggest argument I constantly hear against spreading the funds is that money tied up in your bench is wasted money. It’s a fair argument if you’re routinely going into gameweeks with over 20m in your benched players. The extra money could definitely go some ways to improving what you already have, but if you like to have back up players ready to go in case of any emergency or last-minute rotation, it’s not completely illogical. The main drawback of spreading funds around your team is that you are limiting yourself to have players with much lower ceilings, potentially yielding less points than you might otherwise get.

Anywho – onto the data. I will be looking at the Top 10 highest scoring assets in each position, grouping them into one of the four following categories:

Premium, Mid, Budget and Ultra-Budget.

The idea is to see what kind of correlation there is between player cost and points scored, to get a good idea of their true value. As ever we will look at % ownership to get a better idea of the lay of the land, but will not be evaluating who offers best points per minutes at this moment in time. I feel this is something for a future article much later in the season when we have more data at our disposal.

GOALKEEPERS

1) Makani (4.6m) 19pts [8.8%]

2) Myhra (4.5m) 17pts [11.0%]

3) Ahamada (6.0m) 14pts [3.0%]

4) Sandberg (6.0m) 13pts [21%]

5) Mbaye (4.5m) 11pts [7.3%]

6) Linde (6.0m) 10pts [9.4%]

7) Hansen (6.0m) 10pts [11.1%]

8) Klaesson (5.0m) 9pts [15.3%]

9) Mitov Nilsson (5.5m) 7pts [3.4%]

10) Khaykin (5.0m) 6pts [1.8%]

The goalkeepers sitting atop the pile are probably not who most would expect to see. Mjondalen’s Sosha Makani has conceded just once in three games, making ten saves and racking up 3 bonus points in the process. He’s been so good his ownership has grown by almost a factor of five since Round 1. More than half of Myhra’s points have come from one game in which he saved a penalty, made eight saves and got one bonus point. The 23 year-old Norwegian has made fifteen saves so far this campaign – the most in the division.

Overall, 6 out of the top 10 scoring goalkeepers are the most owned in the game, meaning we’ve done alright with our cash. While Linde and Sandberg owners will fully expect their number 1’s to top the points table come the end of the season, Makani and Myhra owners are getting far more bang for their buck right now.

Top 10 Scoring Goalkeepers Breakdown: 4 Premium, 3 Mid, 3 Budget

Premium goalkeepers seem to be slightly more consistent than any other bracket, but it’s hard to deny that mid-priced goalkeepers, for now, have the edge on their more expensive peers.

DEFENDERS

1) Gregersen (5.2m) 25pts [20.8%]

2) Hanche-Olsen (5.5m) 24pts [30.7%]

3) Nakkim (4.6m) 20pts [10.8%]

4) Haugen (6.5m) 17pts [5.2%]

5) Holmgren-Pedersen (5.5m) 16pts [12.3%]

6) Solholm Johansen (5.5m) 16pts [9.3%]

7) Kristiansen (5.5m) 15pts [6.3%]

8) Aasbak (5.0m) 15pts [9.5%]

9) Solheim (5.0m) 15pts [4.1%]

10) Dragsnes (5.0m) 15pts [3.2%]

Three of the top five highest-scoring defenders all play for Molde. This really shouldn’t come as much of a shock – they are hard to score against and being a very attack-minded team, their defenders are usually in on the action. Between them, Gregersen, Haugen and Holmgren-Pedersen have registered 5 attacking returns and 8 bonus points, despite only managing a solitary clean sheet.

Hanche-Olsen and Solheim are the two Stabaek defenders that make the top 10 – being one of only two teams (the other being Mjondalen) to keep two clean sheets in their opening three games. The former has been awarded two bonus points in each of his three appearances as well as getting a goal against Sandefjord. Mjondalen remain unbeaten and have conceded just once which means it should come as no surprise then to see three of their defenders in the top 10. Kristiansund’s Aasbak and Brann’s Kristiansen make up the numbers.

Overall, 2 out of the top 10 scoring defenders are the most owned in the game. Quite frankly, we’ve not done too well here. While some managers might be quick to point out high ownerships of ultra-budget defenders such as Vogt and Daland, they are the only two 4.0m defenders in the top 10 most-owned table.

Molde, Brann and Kristiansund defenders will be expected to continue to keep racking up the points, while it remains to be seen if the cheaper Mjondalen options will still be viable half-way through the season.

Top 10 Scoring Defenders Breakdown: 1 Premium, 8 Mid, 1 Budget

While we might be collectively looking in the wrong places, the good news is that mid-priced defenders are the ones bringing home the bacon right now and provide affordable options going forward.

MIDFIELDERS

1) Sandberg (7.6m) 29pts [17%]

2) Zinckernagel (8.2m) 28pts [32%]

3) Hauge (7.6m) 26pts [14.1%]

4) Pellegrino (9.1m) 26pts [16.8%]

5) Eikrem (12.6m) 22pts [45.2%]

6) Saltnes (7.5m) 20pts [23%]

7) Maigaard (8.4m) 19pts [5.7%]

8) Hove (5.5m) 19pts [1.0%]

9) Berg (4.5m) 18pts [30.3%]

10) Kassi (6.1m) 17pts [5.7%]

Free-scoring Bodo/Glimt are a team made of midfielders who love to score goals. And set up goals. And in general score fantasy points, as is made pretty obvious. Four of the top ten play for them and together they’ve earned a massive 92pts (23pts each). Considering that not one of them started the season priced any higher than 8.0m, that’s pretty ridiculous.

Niklas Sandberg has until recently been flying under the radar. Originally priced at 7.5m, you can certainly expect this number to keep on rising as he’s currently the second-highest scoring player in the game. A big part of his appeal is that he is on penalty kicks for Haugesund, and while his team have had an abysmal start to the season, he seems to be flourishing, scoring in every single game so far and getting an assist too.

Pellegrino’s 23pt haul against Aalesunds meant he went from being in slightly more than two thousand teams to nearly three times that in just one game week. His injury kept him out of Round 3, but due to his absurd haul still sits fourth in our list.

Eikrem has had a slow but steady start for his almost fourteen thousand owners, and a recent brace from Maigaard – earning him 14pts – has started to show he might be worth the money after all. Budget options Hove and Kassi have four attacking returns between them while BFP magnet Patrick Berg has managed to earn himself eight out of a possible nine bonus points in his first three games. He may only have scored once, but the BFP system clearly favours his industrious performances regardless of end product.

Overall, 7 out of the top 10 scoring midfielders are the most owned in the game which would seem to imply we know our midfielders somewhat better than our defenders. For whatever reason, we’ve been able to identify where the goals, assists and bonus points will be coming from a lot easier in midfield than in defence even though the legend himself Wolff Eikrem is just the fifth-highest scorer.

Top 10 Scoring Midfielders Breakdown: 2 Premium, 5 Mid, 2 Budget, 1 Ultra-Budget

Just like it was with defenders, it seems that the more reasonably priced options are not only offering the best value for money (something we’ll talk about in another article) but they’re actually scoring more points than their more expensive cousins. Patrick Berg has been criminally under-priced this season and represents ridiculous – utterly ridiculous – value for money at 4.5m, the cheapest starting price for midfielders.

FORWARDS

1) Junker (8.4m) 31pts [31.9%]

2) Borven (11.0m) 25pts [34.1%]

3) Bamba (9.1m) 24pts [19.1%]

4) Salvesen (8.6m) 19pts [22.4%]

5) Bringaker (5.6m) 18pts [8.4%]

6) Vilhjalmsson (8.0m) 17pts [18.7%]

7) Abdellaoue (7.4m) 15pts [4.1%]

8) Shuaibu (6.0m) 14pts [2.8%]

9) Fridjonsson (7.5m) 12pts [2.1%]

10= Ammitzboll (6.4m) 9pts [0.9%]

10= Omoijuanfo (11.1m) 9pts [9.1%]

10= Berisha (9.0m) 9pts [10.9%]

Somewhat unsurprisingly Kasper Junker is the highest-scoring player in the game. And owned by 31.9% of managers, his affordable services have not gone unnoticed. After his brilliant hat-trick against Haugesund at the weekend, he scored and set one up against Rosenborg in their famous 3-2 win in Trondheim on Thursday evening. He is a player that looks relentless in his charge for goals, points and acclaim – I am absolutely certain he will be up there with the likes of Borven and Eikrem come the end of the season, that is if he doesn’t leave the club. If he keeps up this level of brilliance he’ll undoubtedly start attracting clubs from around Europe in need of a leading man. Hopefully, for our sakes, he stays in Norway for at least until the end of the season.

Borven, Bamba, Salvesen and Vilhjalmsson were always expected to be amongst the highest scoring forwards (as their relative ownerships should imply) but it’s the inclusion of IK Start’s Bringaker and Mjondalen’s Shuaibu that catch the eye. The former has managed a goal every game even though he was only given 45 minutes against Molde, and 23 year-old Shuaibu will have delighted the few managers who chose him in their initial Round 1 squads, with the Nigerian scoring twice and earning two bonus points to sit just five points behind Stromsgodset’s Salvesen.

Newly promoted Aalesunds potentially have themselves a capable goalscorer in Icelandic international Holmbert Fridjonsson, who despite only being given just over two hours of football has managed to score two of his clubs five goals this campaign. Abdellaoue was given just fifty minutes of game time in Sarpsborg’s first two games before deciding to give him the full ninety against Stromsgodset – what a decision that turned out to be. The Norwegian forward bagged himself a brace and all three bonus points to end the evening on 13pts.

Ammitzboll, Ohi and Berisha have all scored once to complete the list. Despite playing 260 minutes of football Berisha has only managed to find the net once while Ohi – deputising for James against Rosenborg and Start – has looked lacklustre, lazy and wasteful in front of goal. His one bonus point against Rosenborg in particular seeming somewhat of a charity rather than a reflection of his performance.

Overall, 7 out of the top 10 (12) scoring forwards are the most owned in the game, with James, Strand Larsen and Ostensen making up the numbers. My only reservation with this conclusion is how many of the players above are there due to a single performance, which seems to skew overall value. Looking at the top 6 players (Junker to Vilhjalmsson) gives us a much better understanding of where to look for consistent forwards who are playing regularly and offer more structure rather than one-off performances.

Top 10(12) Scoring Forwards Breakdown: 5 Premium, 4 Mid, 3 Budget

As we have 3 players tied on 9pts, this has opened the door for the premium options to walk in and be counted. Even so, it’s quite obvious that yet again the mid-priced options provide a good supply of points, in the absence of financial ruin. While many of us will expect to see both Molde forwards, Bamba, Junker and Borven near the top of the scoring charts at the end of the season, it looks as though we might have a few cheaper alternatives not too far behind as well.

CONCLUSION

While premium options should not be ignored, it is clear to me that mid-priced and budget-priced options are a vital mainstay of this game. This is a marathon, not a sprint and will require us to sometimes look outside the realm of what the hivemind might think to be acceptable. It’s early days but we’re already catching glimpses of certain players who may prove to be the diamond in the rough we’re all so eagerly searching for.

The most expensive players in the game are, bar a few, playing their part in giving us our money’s worth. It’s to be expected – they’re priced that way for a reason. But it should be clear to anyone in two minds before reading this article that there are a lot of reasonably-priced alternatives who are, up to this point, outperforming their value and giving us something to think about.

Overall I think can agree the vast majority of us have spent wisely thus far, which should be received as a huge positive as it’s often the case that we find ourselves attracted to the shiniest, most useless things that prove to be false investments. Right now that doesn’t seem to be the case. Even if some of us are truly woeful at managing our finances in real life, it looks as though for now our Fantasy Football investments are paying dividends.

ReindeerHotdog ESF: https://en.fantasy.eliteserien.no/entry/12433/event/17 Follow me on Twitter: @ReindeerHotdog

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  1. Nedvěd11
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 months ago

    Not playing.
    But buy Zinckernagel and Wolff Eikrem, rest can be random 😛

  2. MTPockets
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Fee agreed and Børven leaving now, according to TA
      https://twitter.com/Telemarksavisa/status/1277884488060669953 (I can't read the article)

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Good as a non-owner. Annoying as a VIF fan, sick of him from last week and he will probably score again if he plays tomorrow

    • Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 months ago

      Bakenga 6.5 at Odd 😯

      It's either him or Lauritsen 5.9 to replace Børven so if either one can nail down the CF spot we're potentially looking at a tasty 3rd striker

      1. MTPockets
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Probably good for game time, but Bekenga always seemed to tread a fine line between great promise and awful.
          6.5m a decent price though

        • ReindeerHotdog
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          True, though Rashani coming back gives us another midfielder to look at. His price will start to rise as soon as he gets a goal/assist and it'll be interesting to see how he fits in with one of those two up top.

          Definitely worth keeping an eye on though.

        • TallestJohn
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Bakenga was awful for Tromsø although they played a different system than Odd. Fixtures aren't kind but I'll keep an eye on Lauritsen going forward.

      2. Tomlin Magic
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Good news for Børven owners looks like he will play at least some part tomorrow for RBK against Vålerenga

        https://twitter.com/RBVegard/status/1277885761807941632

        1. Eytexi
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Wow I was wrong, haha. My faith stays with Ohi for another GW.

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        FFS, took a hit to bring in Hoff and Gregersen and also own Borven ... team in pieces 🙁

        1. Badluck Jonathan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          What’s up with Hoff?

          1. Tomlin Magic
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Broken finger I believe shouldn't hamper him long term but I believe he is out for tomorrow.

            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              yes, I think should view it as a bit of enforced rotation ... I think rotation can hit anyone at any time

            2. Badluck Jonathan
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks

          2. Hotdogs for Tea
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            red flagged now, flags are also so late in this game and seem to burn me as a casual 🙂

            1. Badluck Jonathan
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              Me too!

      4. abaalan
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Alli + Richarlison + Nketiah -> Foden + Mount + Jesus -4

        Yeh or neh?

        1. Botman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          neh

      5. Eytexi
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Happy with the eleven & first sub for GW5 so rolling the FT for 2 planned moves in GW6.

        Klaesson;
        Solheim, Gregersen, Nakkim;
        Zinck, Hauge, Sandy, Eikrem (K), Edvardsen;
        Bamba, Ohi.

        Again fancy Ohi to either start or get enough minutes off the bench to return vs. local rivals KBK. He'll likely stay for GW6 as well now that Børven is an RBK player, with Børven instead coming in as part of a hit for GW7 (vs. Stromsgodset (H)).

      6. ReindeerHotdog
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Borven ready to play for Rosenborg tomorrow night.

        https://twitter.com/RBKfotball/status/1277942885925732354?s=19

        1. Sebinhooooo
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Chances of him starting?

          1. Eytexi
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Hard to call, could take time to settle regardless. Imo he's a: don't buy, don't sell, don't captain. For GW5 that is, GW7 onwards I want him in.

          2. ReindeerHotdog
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Think it'll be close to 100%.

            I've watched every single Rosenborg game this season - his signing couldn't have come sooner.

            Borven is in insane form (5 goals in two games) and even though they're at home Valerenga could be a potential banana skin.

            Islamovic has certainly tried, but he's just not done enough. Summed it up when against Bodo/Glimt he was beaten to the ball so it went down as an own goal.

            This is like Aguero signing for United/Arsenal a day before a game in a season where they're struggling to find consistency and form - he'd start without hesitation.

            He might be brought on, but I can't see much reason not to start him. We're 4 games in already, it's not like they have to wonder whether or not he'll fit in and hit early form.

      7. Eytexi
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Could anyone shed some light on Klaesson's reputation in Norway for me? He's been quite awful in a couple of games this season & am curious as to whether he could lose his spot if that continues. Is he regarded as "the next big thing" & "a big name" or is he simply "some young bloke who might come good". I am aware that he has been a Norwegian youth international at a very young age but, judging by the standard's of some of England's youth goalkeepers over the years, it's hard to tell how much can be deduced from this. I own Haug as backup regardless, but any thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers.

        1. ReindeerHotdog
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          In regards to Fantasy Football, he got the nod with a lot of managers because of his price combined with being a starting goalkeeper for a team that's usually not easy to score a load of goals against.

          Being 19 does mean he's probably being look at more closely than others, for sure.

          Regarding his actual 'footballing reputation' in Norway I'm not too sure but he's still a teenager who's currently number one for one of the bigger clubs in Norwegian football. So there is that.

      8. Mince n Tatties
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Is this the order you would set this bench for Runde 5

        1. Berg (vs Odd)
        2. Foss (vs Viking)
        3. Daland (vs Haugesund)

        It’s the defenders I’m concerned about as I have Solheim starting and there is a chance he could be out.

        Cheers!

        1. Eytexi
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Yep. I have a similar bench (Foss, Daland, Hustad) & won't be gutted if Solheim misses out. Foss vs. Viking is more than capable of picking up a CS & BAPS if Viking continue to looking underwhelming (2 goals in last 3).

          1. Mince n Tatties
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Cheers Pal

        2. ReindeerHotdog
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Sandefjord - 12 shots in their last 2 games 0 goals.
          Viking - 26 shots 2 goals. Viking clear favourites, should keep clean sheet.
          Start looked good earlier on, now I'm not convinced.Think they're burning out.

          Daland - more chance of attacking return than Foss, more chance of starting, less chance of losing a lot of points for goals conceded/no clean sheet.

          Really, I don't think it'll matter too much.
          You're looking at 0/1/2pts.

          1. Eytexi
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            If this league was based on shots, Sarpsborg would be top.

            1. ReindeerHotdog
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              I do get your point to some extent. It's like making a big fuss about possession - all well and good having more of the ball than the opposition, but unless you score, what's the point?

              But yeah, me stating Viking are strong favourites and even likely to get a clean sheet - I didn't think that would be seen as even somewhat controversial whatsoever.

              Stats do help us understand what's going on around us - completely ignoring them is unhelpful. There's usually underlying trends in this kind of data which helps us look at something objectively, rather than what might be a gut feeling.

              Anything can happen on the day that's for sure! I just don't see it happening. this week.
              To be honest, we all know Viking are massively under-performing, and this week is a big chance for them to get their season started.

              What's your line up looking like for this week?

              1. Eytexi
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 10 months ago

                As you rightly said, it's unlikely to result in a major point swing when it comes to 4m defenders regardless. 🙂

                My team & thoughts regarding it are posted just above.

            2. ReindeerHotdog
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              Oh, the only reason I constructed that comment like that was because I didn't feel the need to say much more. I didn't mean to make it sound like "shots are the most important thing" just to use that specific piece of data to try and equate one team to the other. That's all.

              1. Eytexi
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 10 months ago

                Haha, no worries mate. I understood what you probably meant, just wanted to emphasise that we couldn't rely on shots alone to predict games.

                1. ReindeerHotdog
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 10 months ago

                  Yeah I'm looking at a lot of stats behind the scenes. I'm gathering quite a bit of info, but some of it is rather telling and there are certainly correlations between some things and others.

                  Later on in the season I'll be looking at posting some articles that look more closely into this - the ones I previous put up were pseudo-insightful more than anything, BUT it's good to try and look at as much data early on and try to understand where it's going and why.

                  Shots to goals in interesting, as well as shots faced leading to goals. Gives you an idea of what to expect in certain games and it usually follows on soundly, but yeah, there's exceptions to every rule.

                2. Paul Psychic Octopus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 10 months ago

                  Indeed. Bielsa at Leeds is obsessed with stats and proves to his players how low the percentage chances are of scoring outside the box, so shots taken alone is not much of an indicator. Especially if they are long-range efforts that even Loris Karius could save.

      9. SEXY SALAH
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Ready for the weekend, Thursday and Friday off and a -8 taken:

        McCarthy
        TAA | Saiss | Lascelles
        Salah (C) | KdB | Son | Fernandes | Martial
        Kane (VC) | Greenwood

        Button | Connolly | Elmohamady | Lundstram

        1. Hitmonlee
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Way too hasty playing a -8 when the week is far from finished.
          Hope it doesn’t come back to bite you

      10. TAT
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 months ago

        Had to pull the trigger quickly on my James + Källman > Junker + Børven move with 0.0 itb after completing the transfers. Then the ODD/RBK deal went through in the end after all. Given RBK's form, I'm starting to get cold feet re. Børven as an option, coming to a new team and all.

        1. ReindeerHotdog
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 10 months ago

          Rosenborg beat Brann when they had no right to. Huge slice of fortune but still, 3pts.

          They'll be ecstatic about that. Now Borven joins I can see him galvanising them. Valerenga is a tricky game but at least they're at home. I'm optimistic about him just because not only is he in such good form, he'll be buzzing that he's made it to the biggest team in Norwegian football.

          Think this is where Rosenborg's season kicks off. Helland and Borven linking up sounds like it really work for both players. I'll be watching that game tomorrow expecting to see a new team for sure.

          I think your subs were the right ones to make. Junker and Borven - pretty much no reason not to have both in your side considering what they offer. Get those feet warm and enjoy!

          1. TAT
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            I hope it will pay off, for sure – but even so, I'm a bit unsure if it will re. Børven. Rosenborg have – despite beating Brann – had very little attacking "flow" (or any kind of attack, for that matter), and I don't really see that change overnight. Børven will have to do a lot of the work himself, unless other players are able to step up.

            1. ReindeerHotdog
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 10 months ago

              True. But he's such a big player, just him being at club will have the impact of about 3 or 4 new signings in my opinion.

              When Meling has been on the pitch they've looked a lot better - that will be an issue when he leaves. Trondsen can play there fine, but he looks SO MUCH BETTER when in midfield.

              There's a lot that Rosenborg need to do better. Adegbenro being injured has come at the worst possible time but I do like Holse and Tagseth and as soon as Zachariassen starts to play, it might do something to get Helland to start producing a big more.

              They've got a solid enough defence, they've just not been with it. As soon as they switch on, they'll be much harder to score against. Plus, they're not bad at getting forward as we saw last game.

              I'll be making sure to watch every game of theirs this season - think they're the most interesting team to follow right now as it's almost unthinkable to accept they are in real danger of missing out of a top 3 finish this season. That would be hugely damaging. But there's a lot of work to do. Borven is a great first step however you look at it.

              1. TAT
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 10 months ago

                I don't know he'll be THAT much of an impact, but or non-Fantasy reasons as much as Fantasy reasons, I hope you're right!

                Meling leaving will be a massive headache for Rosenborg, and I'm not sure how they'll manage without him. Trondsen, as you write, is much better in midfield. Adegbenro having an injury is also not good, though I hope it's just a minor one. At least that's a place in the team where they have options.

                What is most interesting now, is who they will bring in to manage the team. Could it be Åge Hareide? He should be on their list.

            2. MTPockets
                3 years, 10 months ago

                And assume he won't be on penalties?

                1. TAT
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 10 months ago

                  Interesting point. It's too early to tell of course, but he will have competition as far as penalties goes.

        2. MTPockets
            3 years, 10 months ago

            Some predicted lineups coming in: https://twitter.com/Jotjar

          • The FPL Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 10 months ago

            What are the preferred kaptain picks this week?

            1. MTPockets
                3 years, 10 months ago

                Leaving it on Eikrem, but Sandberg vs IKS seems a decent shout.

                1. The FPL Units
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 10 months ago

                  I am thinking of leaving it on Borven for a punt. Who knows he might celebrate with a Hattie.

                  1. Mullered in Maenam
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 10 months ago

                    Borven for me. Sandberg VC.

                  2. MTPockets
                      3 years, 10 months ago

                      Yeah I don't have Borven, and don't really want him at RBK.
                      But if everyone else has/getting may have to rethink that

                      1. The FPL Units
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        As in get rid of him?

                        1. MTPockets
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            No as in get him in regardless

                        2. Mullered in Maenam
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 10 months ago

                          There have been a few players who have scored a hat-trick on their full debuts for new teams like Aubameyang, Shearer, Vieri, Ravenelli, Del Piero - could Borven add his name to that list? Worth a punt I think.

                          1. The FPL Units
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            I fancy a punt!

                            1. Mullered in Maenam
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              3 years, 10 months ago

                              Worth it for me, like a slow 10,000 metre runner in a stadium, I'm so far behind I think I'm in front.

                          2. MTPockets
                              3 years, 10 months ago

                              Hmmm Shearer, Vieri, Del Piero ... Torgeir Borven
                              Perhaps but he may not even start according to link above. Hadn't yet trained with the team as of this morning.

                              1. Mullered in Maenam
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Yes, you would think he would need a bit of time to settle in but maybe Rosenborg think, well this guy is fit and on form and he played against VIF in GW 3 and scored a hat-trick. Or maybe that's just how fantasy managers think!

                                Saw this link earlier:

                                https://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/na8Oex/rbk-bekrefter-boerven-er-klar-for-rosenborg

                                1. MTPockets
                                    3 years, 10 months ago

                                    And to be fair he's had an extra day's rest vs rest of the RBK squad, and they wouldn't have paid up early if not planning to use him. But I just don't know about getting him for this gw. Appeals more from GW7 - SIF iks SAN

                                    rbkweb is often quite reliable for lineups but opinion there among posters seems mixed

                                    1. Eytexi
                                      • 5 Years
                                      3 years, 10 months ago

                                      Couldn't have said it better myself. GW7 is RBK player time whether they actually look like quality picks or become "punts" due to poor form.

                      2. Eytexi
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Eikrem (K), Sandberg (V) for me. Børven is someone I'm certainly looking at, but am not ready to put my faith in RBK assets until I see some improvement.

                      3. Ze_Austin
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Started the season terribly (forgot to check for most recent updates before the season started) but shot up ranks with a GW2 wildcard and lucky/good kaptains: https://en.fantasy.eliteserien.no/entry/5976/history

                        I don't see a reason to NOT kap Sandberg for this round, so he's my kap

                      4. Paul Psychic Octopus
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Was Borven for me, but his move to Rosenberg casts some doubts to say the least. At the moment is on Eikrem but I am seriously thinking about Ibrahimaj (and no, I haven't been drinking).

                    • FPL Bielsa
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 10 months ago

                      Ranked 1.3k so a nice start and working so far avoiding the Molde big hitters, just hit the Wildcard button and going for squad depth without too much bench fodder, any obvious mistakes?

                      Makani Myrah - Gregersen Desler Hanche Naakim Daaland - Koomson Maigaard Zinck Hauge Sandberg - Borven Junker Shuaibu

                      Thanks.

                      1. Tomlin Magic
                        • 3 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Maigaard hasn't been all that good bar the penalty goals & I wouldn't be confident going without Eikrem especially with his ownership and the DGW12 that will be upon us in a couple of weeks. I like the Ibrahim Shuaibu pick been going under the radar with 3 in his last 4.

                      2. El Puqi
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Looks decent. Personally, I wouldn’t go with 4.5 goalkeeper rotation as clean sheets are so unpredictable in Eliteserien. Also, be ready to get rid of Desler soon as Haugesunds fixtures turn pretty bad after this week. Midfield is nice, but Maigaard plays very deep and hardly has shots. 3 penalty goals and could ofc score many of fhem but prefer players who are good even without pens & free kicks. And I would try ti get Pellegrino in wildcard, maybe for Maigaard. Pellegrino is one of the best players in the league and very explosive.

                        Good luck!

                      3. FPL Bielsa
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 7 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Thanks for the responses, much appreciated, was all set to transfer Maigaard out three weeks ago and then he started hauling points. Might take him out then maybe for Pellegrino.

                        On the two keepers it's more a case of covering injuries and i can't see a certain one club combo less than 9m so seems to make sense.

                    • El Puqi
                      • 4 Years
                      3 years, 10 months ago

                      Some thoughts on these moves would be appreciated.

                      Roll the transfer this week, Runde 6 Eikrem & Salvesen to Borven & Pellegrino. Long term I don’t think I need Eikrem as there are very good value midfielders elsewhere. Maybe use Rich Uncle -chip in the double.
                      Would give me money to upgrade Holmgren to Stolas when he is fit.

                      Or

                      Salvesen to Mos as 3 week punt and use Attack! Attack! -chip in GW 7. Not sure about him starting but he has been so much better than Larsen so he should. Then next week Pellegrino comes in for Koomson/Sandberg. After GW 7 Mos & Bamba to Borven & bench fodder. Would leave me with Borven, Eikrem & Pelle but no Stolas.

                      Ofc anything can happen but I want think ahead to make sure I can get 2-3 of my main targets Borven, Pelle & Stolas.

                      Cheers!

                      1. MTPockets
                          3 years, 10 months ago

                          Prefer that first option gives this week to see if Borven/Pellegrino even start. Selling Eikrem is risky but you know that. Would worry about Stolas when that happens. I haven't seen a game yet with Mos. He used to be very clinical but don't find him inspiring yet and not sure if he'll rotate with S-L. Selling form players on the basis of fixtures doesn't tend to work out in Elitserien - the range of teams are much closer than in PL. i.e. don't necessarily need to sell Sandberg (or Koomson) just due to a relative fixture swing.

                          1. El Puqi
                            • 4 Years
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            Very true. I guess it would still be nice to have the ability to get Pellegrino in for Koomson/Sandberg if one of them dry out a bit.

                      2. Sandstorm
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 10 months ago

                        Gregersen fit to start, Bojang -> Gregersen done. Also other stuff about lineups in thread.

                        https://mobile.twitter.com/ESNJonas/status/1278314726808829954

                        My team:
                        Klaesson
                        Pereira, Desler, Gregersen
                        Zinckernagel, Berg, Sandberg (VC), Eikrem (C)
                        Junker, Bringaker, Børven

                        Haug, Salétros, Ruud, Vogt

                        Good luck to all!

                        1. MTPockets
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            ugh Haugen not fit. Good luck

                        2. FPL Xylophone
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          3 years, 10 months ago

                          Any love for Banba kaptain vs S08?

                          1. El Puqi
                            • 4 Years
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            Not a bad shout!

                          2. Team Cruel
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            Will he start? Acted really poorly when he was subbed off the other night, manager criticised him on tv

                            1. FPL Xylophone
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 8 Years
                              3 years, 10 months ago

                              Oops... too late now... hope if he doesn't start he won't play at all and get my vc points then

                              1. Team Cruel
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 8 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Word on twitter is that the manager has 'forgiven' him so you'll probably be fine!

                        3. Paul Psychic Octopus
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          3 years, 10 months ago

                          Worth doing Vilsvik (RBK) to Gregersen for a hit?

                        4. Team Cruel
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          3 years, 10 months ago

                          Where is Mince? 😯

                          1. Mince n Tatties
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 10 Years
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            Sorry - was in a meeting that over ran!
                            Alarm was set for 15:40 but couldn’t get away!!!

                        5. MTPockets
                            3 years, 10 months ago

                            Castro bench

                            1. TallestJohn
                              • 7 Years
                              3 years, 10 months ago

                              I'm glad this headache was sorted out for me, probably should've got a third B/G player but taking a punt on Kornelius Normann Hansen. Good fixture, I noticed that Haugen got in behind the Godset defence a lot and I think Hansen can do the same especially as it looks like Stengel playing in defence.

                              1. MTPockets
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  Very smooth

                                  1. TallestJohn
                                    • 7 Years
                                    3 years, 10 months ago

                                    I will now proceed to feel smug until 5.10pm tomorrow when Eikrem already has a goal and assist on 200% ownership

                            2. El Puqi
                              • 4 Years
                              3 years, 10 months ago

                              Lauritsen starting up top for Odd. 5.9!

                              1. Tomlin Magic
                                • 3 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                I don't think Bakenga(6.5) the new signing who played for Tromso last year is ready yet, but it will definitely be between the two to nail down the starting spot.

                              2. MTPockets
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  Decent but Bakenga's on the bench

                              3. Paul Psychic Octopus
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 13 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Vogt not in squad. Sandberg starts for Stabaek.

                                Junker, Zink, Hauge all start for Glimt

                              4. Knekke Brød
                                • 10 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Spissrush for me this GW with Salvesen, Bamba and Junker ...

                                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                                  • 8 Years
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  holding back until the double game week

                                2. Tomlin Magic
                                  • 3 Years
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  Interesting call, what is your barometer for the chip being a success?

                                  1. Knekke Brød
                                    • 10 Years
                                    3 years, 10 months ago

                                    Oh, I wanted to play the chip in a midweek gameweek when I know that most of my attackers are playing. They are all in form at the moment. And I want to go back to 352 as soon as possible ...

                              5. Hotdogs for Tea
                                • 8 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Good luck all

                                Sandvik
                                Borchgrevink, Gregersen, Hanche-Olsen
                                Berg, Saletros, Eikrem, Hauge (BG)
                                Junker K, Salvesen, Borven
                                Myhra, Naess, Gronner, Hoff

                              6. Eytexi
                                • 5 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                This is one of those posts that'll either age well or terribly: Edvardsen will haul double digits this afternoon, 10 absolute minimum.

                              7. Mince n Tatties
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Sorry I missed the line ups - was in a meeting and couldn’t get away to post the lineups - Stabaek v Stromsgodset on Eurosport 2 now...
                                Actually hoping for a 0-0 as I’ve got Myhra, Hanche-Olsen and Solheim

                                1. Mince n Tatties
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 10 Years
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  Goal incoming any second now...

                              8. Mince n Tatties
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Bodo/Glimt take the lead!!
                                1-0

                                1. Mince n Tatties
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 10 Years
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  Zinckernagel with the opener

                                  1. Mince n Tatties
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 10 Years
                                    3 years, 10 months ago

                                    Junker assist

                              9. Mince n Tatties
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Ruud sent off for Odd...
                                Could be lots of goals from Bodo/Glimt today...

                                1. Eytexi
                                  • 5 Years
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  As long as they're all Zinck & Hauge I shalln't be complaining.

                              10. Mince n Tatties
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                3 years, 10 months ago

                                Flood gates are open!!
                                Bodo/Glimt 2-0 up now

                                1. Mince n Tatties
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 10 Years
                                  3 years, 10 months ago

                                  Junker adds a goal to his assist!! Happy Days