Scout Notes

FPL defenders only winners of Manchester derby as De Bruyne and Fernandes blank

Man United 0-0 Man City

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None
  • Bonus points: Luke Shaw x3 (£4.8m), John Stones x2 (£4.8m), Kyle Walker x2 (£6.2m)

DULL DERBY

The occasion of a Manchester derby appeared to get underneath the skin of Ole Gunnar Solksjaer and Pep Guardiola’s men in Gameweek 12.

Bruno Fernandes (£10.9m) and Kevin De Bruyne (£11.8m) came into the encounter backed by 40.4% and 24.5% of Fantasy Premier League managers respectively but combined for a total of six points.

With neither side prepared to stretch themselves to get the win, Old Trafford played host to one of the dullest matches of the season so far.

That said, it was not the first time the Manchester derby has disappointed, considering that Gabriel Jesus (£9.3m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.4m), whose first touch was consistently poor on Saturday, both remain goalless against the Red Devils.

On the flip-side, Manchester United have still won just one of their six home league games this season, scoring three in the process, two of which have come from the penalty spot.

There could be hidden benefits from this result for Fantasy managers invested in the Manchester clubs though.

De Bruyne and Fernandes owners were unlikely to captain either of the premium midfielders for an unpredictable Manchester derby but more favourable midweek fixtures stood out enough to guard against mass sales.

That said, the quick turnaround between Manchester City’s Old Trafford visit and a Tuesday-night home meeting with West Bromwich Albion had caused some rotation concerns for De Bruyne.

Likewise, some managers had been put off captaining Fernandes for a plum away trip to Sheffield United for the same reason, although that game is on Thursday.

But considering that neither side exerted themselves too much at Old Trafford might convince both Solskjaer and Guardiola there is enough left in the tank to keep key players in the side in Gameweek 13.

ROLLING STONES

Manchester City are increasingly becoming a source of reliable clean sheets, picking up a fourth from their last six on Saturday.

The fact that it came against a Manchester United side that had a point to prove makes it somewhat more impressive, although the main focus will be on the Citizens’ upcoming fixtures.

With their defensive credentials improving week-on-week, City’s meetings with West Brom (home), Southampton (away) and Newcastle (home) are particularly attractive between now and Gameweek 15.

As ever, the question is: how do we best invest in their back-line, short of forking out for perennial six-pointer Ederson (£6.0m)?

Ruben Dias (£5.6m) remains the key man in terms of outfield defenders, having started each of the last nine Premier League matches, lasting 90 minutes in eight of them.

However, John Stones (£4.8m) is slowly emerging as a viable cheap alternative having started and played 90 minutes in each of the last three.

Crucially, he has been present for all of Manchester City’s clean sheets in the last five and added two bonus points on Saturday.

Whether or not he can retain his starting berth depends largely on Guardiola’s whim, of course. The games are coming thick and fast over the next few weeks although it is notable that Aymeric Laporte (£6.0m) has been benched for three Premier League matches in a row now and Nathan Aké (£5.4m) has not started since Gameweek 5 through injury.

As ever, the full-back situation remains unpredictable. Following a Gameweek 10 rest, João Cancelo (£5.5m) has now started each of the last two and captured clean sheet points too.

His versatility is a complicated piece of the puzzle as he played a right-back with Benjamin Mendy (£5.9m) on the left against Fulham but switched back to the left, pushing the Frenchman to the bench at Old Trafford, so that Kyle Walker (£6.2m) could return to the side.

DEVILS’ TRIANGLE

Paul Pogba (£7.7m) has now started and completed each of the last two league matches for Manchester United, potentially adding an extra complication to predicting the team.

Against Manchester City, he was deployed in a central midfield trio comprised of Fred (£5.3m) and Scott McTominay (£4.9m) but spent some time drifting into a left-wing role.

Meanwhile, Fernandes was officially stationed as a number 10 behind a front-two of Marcus Rashford (£9.4m) and Mason Greenwood (£7.1m), with Anthony Martial (£8.7m) making a second-half comeback from injury.

The Portuguese international spent some time advanced into the gaps between the strikers to become the centre-forward point of a 4-3-3 shape to press Manchester City as high up the pitch as possible.

That could be seen as one of the reasons why Guardiola’s men were unable to get things going from deep at Old Trafford. Fernandes is, after all, much better at pressing off the ball than he often gets credit for.

Whether such a role exists for Fernandes outside of the big games, remains to be seen, especially considering the shake-up of Martial’s 74th-minute introduction for Greenwood. At that point, Solskjaer reverted to a more familiar set-up with Fernandes at number 10, flanked by Rashford and Pogba while Martial led from the front.

Manchester United XI (4-3-1-2): de Gea; Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof, Wan-Bissaka; Pogba, Fred, McTominay; B Fernandes; Rashford, Greenwood (Martial 74′).

Manchester City XI (4-2-3-1): Ederson; Cancelo, Dias, Stones, Walker; Fernandinho, Rodri; Sterling, De Bruyne, Mahrez (Torres 66′); Jesus.

Lessons learned from FPL Gameweek 12

627 Comments Post a Comment
  1. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Come on Che

    1. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      This

  2. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    4/6 saints feels like free money,what could possibly go wrong..

    1. Catastrophe
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Bizarre, yes. Same for United against them on Thursday

  3. Agamenmon
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Ryan,
    Chilwell, Cresswell, Justin, Taylor, Walker-Peters,
    Salah, KDB, Bruno, Grealish, Anguissa,
    Ings, Calvert Lewis, Wilson

    My team is not bad from Midfield forward but my defence is poor, what changes should be made to the goalkeeper and defence?

    I could swap Justin for Targett and upgrade Cresswell to James or Ryan to McCarthy

    1. Agamenmon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      0 itb

    2. bialk
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Good team. Save transfer.

    3. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      You have little room for tinkering with zero itb. I agree with the above save the free transfer for now.

      Looking further down the line you need to free up cash. I am not dure of the value in Ings with so little played. You have effectively three budget forwards but at premium prices.

      Adams may well cover Ings and use money elsewhere in defence particularly.

      It also looks like you are paying the price for the heavy midfield. Kdb and salah and Fernandes together in the same team will do that to you. Son is a much cheaper alternative and a match for any of those premiums at present.

      You need to source value in the market. I too am guilty of this

      1. Groot the Leveller
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        nice answer

  4. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Folks, I can afford this team for -8.
    A. Do it now
    B. Make it in two GWs for -4

    Martinez (Ryan)
    Chilwell Coufal James (Taylor Mitchell)
    KDB Bruno [C] Salah Grealish (Burke)
    Bamford DCL Ings

  5. FPL.team
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Play Soucek home to Palace or Che Adams away at Arsenal?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Tough, Che I think

    2. Jamizz
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Have the same dilemma. Going Soucek atm

    3. drughi
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      soucek for me

    4. Lord of Ings
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Soucek.

    5. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I would play Che Adams but that's just me.

    6. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Soucek

    7. FPL.team
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Soucek 4 - 2 Adams. Interesting dilemma.

  6. SEXY SON
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    ‘Supposed’ Liverpool leaked lineup:

    Alisson, Robbo, Fabi, Matip, Trent, Hendo, Gini, Jones, Mané, Firmino, Salah

    Credit to TonyAwesome69 for sharing 2 Twitter sources who have been correct in previous lineups apparently.

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Easy to predict with Jota injury

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        I guess there’s always the risk Minamino deputises

      2. The Red Devil
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly!

    2. JONALDINHO
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      This is the obvious line up

      1. JONALDINHO
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        With Neco over Trent imo. Salah to be subbed off at 60

        1. SEXY SON
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Need an early goal at least!

      2. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Hope so!

  7. BeWater
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    My history with Che Adams...

    GW1-4: 10 points
    Transfer out
    GW5-10: 40 points
    Transfer in
    GW11: 2 points

    You owe me something Che...

    1. JJO
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Are you me???
      We really deserve some points today

      1. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        You still have him?

      2. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Just read your post again so you do still have him. Good luck my man! With Ings back I think his points potential is better.

  8. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    1 FT 0 ITB
    jota and Fofana -> Zaha and Ayling?

    Martinez
    Chillwell Fofana Targett Mitchell Lamptey
    Salah Burke KDB Bruno Jota
    Bamford Kane Adams

    1. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Jota to Mount?

  9. thegaffer82
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    If you knew what your transfers are going to be over the next two weeks - forgetting possible injuries/covid absence - and you know you will be taking a 4pt hit over those two GW's....

    Would you just take the hit this GW and get it out of the way, or would you delay the hit to the next GW?

    So basically it's,
    1) Gw13 : Chilly > James & Jota > Souchek (-4)
    GW14 : DCL > Kane
    or
    2) Gw13 : Jota > Souchek
    Gw 14 : Chilly > James & DCL > Kane (-4)

    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, using your logic.
      Except plans will change.

    2. Third Eye Vision
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I’d do 2 I think.

    3. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I'd wait. Wouldn't take a hit for Kane against Liverpool

      1. thegaffer82
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        In both options I'm waiting until after Pool game to get Kane

    4. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Wait

    5. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I have thought to have known my transfers every week until now but the I am still stuck with the same problem players in my team. What has gone wrong?! Well..Zaha got covid so had to ship. Swapped him for jota (bad mistake) My bench stopped playing.. Three aston villa and the game was abandoned. (Oh i got mendy as mysrcond keeper, he is now too a problem as1m tied up on him. Thanks god i played Martinez yeaterday). Jota now injured.

      I still have Jorgino and Semedo both players I had planned on getting rid of with a while now. I just dont have time. This week I was certain to take care of Jorginho but with Jota now injured he will have to wait another week which pushes semedo andmendy out another week also. I will heluvky to have themsorted by the endoj January.

      Not prepared to take a hit. That is my golden rule this year..

      Landscape changes game on game her my friend.

      There will always be a spanner in the works.

  10. GoonerSteve
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Thinking of doing Che Adams to Wilson.

    Good move?

  11. Oldie99
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Have a look at current 7th in the world, played their BB with genuinely 4 players who don’t play / won’t play a minute

    7th in the world

    Meanwhile I’m top 2.1 million and consider myself a thinker

    This game sucks

    1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Its the dark side of probability

      1. Oldie99
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah but we are 12 weeks in

        People who don’t think about the simplest aspects of the game should no longer be top surely

        1. Sgt Frank Drebin
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Why :D? With 7m players there will always be someone with enormous luck. Fpl is a game of probabilities and you're not gonna change that.

        2. Third Eye Vision
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          You are underestimating probability given the huge number of teams.

          Don’t be disheartened. Good players will always climb the ranks over time.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Whatever crazy things you do, because so many assets are firing then crazy team selection seems still better than whoever making meticulous plan, at least for now 😆

  12. Lord of Ings
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    G2G?
    Martinez
    Ayling Targett dias
    Kdb grealish bruno son
    Bamford DCL kane

    1. Vazza
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Good team. Obviously there’s no Salah but you can’t have them all

  13. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Gonna have to go early on Balbuana...not a phrase I was expecting to say...

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      He’ll appreciate it.

  14. The Train Driver
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    That SHU team will get spanked so hard... Hiding behind sofa with no SOU players...

    1. drughi
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      lol yeah the old mighty fearful southampton players

  15. Fudgy
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Ings please I'm begging you to haul

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Blank incoming

  16. Babit1967
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on my dilemma lads.

    Having Soucek and Podence too much?

    Other mids are Salah, Bruno and Son, allows me to get Kane and strengthen my whole 15 or better to find a way to get Zaha, Grealish in ?

    Jota is the one going out

    1. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't want Podence at all.

      He's a player who looks good on the eye (pound shop Hazard!), but his returns are meager, he often comes off early and Wolves aren't exactly convincing are they.

      Soucek a nice pick though.

      Have you considered Rafinha instead? He looks exciting and Leeds have decent fixtures in the main

      1. Babit1967
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        Never considered him mate but worth a look, cheers

  17. Muscout
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Seeing a lot of love for Reece James
    A) is he nailed on now?
    B) better pick than Chilwell?

    1. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Seems to be nailed and he's cheaper. But both decent options

    2. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Seems nailed. Azpili been given starts in the CL but that may change in the knockout stages.

    3. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      With busy Christmas period Azpi may get some starts I'm afraif

    4. Third Eye Vision
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      He is taking some set pieces too.

    5. FPL.team
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Yes to both.

  18. SHOOTER MCGINN
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Martinez
    Robbo Chilwell Dias
    KDB(c) Salah Grealish Bowen
    Vardy Bamford DCL

    Steer Lamptey Bissouma Mitchell

    Thinking a pretty safe hold this week? Then sell Vardy and make some big changes next week. Hopefully once there's more fixture news. Tempted by Aguero for WBA but probably too risky.

  19. Gobigorgohome
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    last time Grealish pick the ball and gave to Watkins to take the pen

    yesterday Grealish pick the ball and gave at El ghazi

    I heard next time when they get pen, he will give to Martinez 😉

  20. Mufc202020
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 4 months ago

    Opinion Poll.

    Chances of Salah starting?
    Chances of Jota getting any gametime?

    1. Gemma817
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      1) Starts
      2) None

    2. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      100
      0

  21. Party time
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn’t mind if Salah blanks today

      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        I would

      2. Gobigorgohome
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        captainers will mind though

      3. Third Eye Vision
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 4 months ago

        One of the upsides of hating the reds so passionately is that when I have them i.e. Salah (c) today, I don’t really mind when they blank.

    • Paul Psychic Octopus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 4 months ago

      Sheff U cannot get a goal out of Sharp. McBurnie and McGoldrick.
      So they sign Brewseter.
      Then continue playing Sharp. McBurnie and McGoldrick.
      And bench Brewster.

      They deserve to go down. if Paddy Power was the PL they would relegate them already.

      1. Party time
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Brewster is pant

          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            So bad he can’t even achieve pants status

            1. Party time
                3 years, 4 months ago

                Haha 😆

          2. Gobigorgohome
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            yes at least give Brewster proper chances like 3 or 4 games

          3. Gobigorgohome
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            they started Brewster only 3 games and those were aagainst

            Liv City Che

            WTF

          4. Mike2795647
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Agree, he may have looked a better player for England and Pool but with the players Shef Utd have up front, he should be first name in the team sheet, at least for 5-6 games.

            Wilder has zero clue to season, to top it off, he evens benches Lundstrum who was one of his best players last season because he’s pissed that he won’t sign a new contract.

            100% deserve to go down this season

            1. Gobigorgohome
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 4 months ago

              totally deserves to go down

          5. thegaffer82
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Some youngsters hit the ground running (like Rooney), some take a while to get up to speed.

            I think they tried Brewster out at first, saw that clearly needs more time, and so dropped him to the bench.

            Pretty standard stuff imo

            1. Gobigorgohome
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 4 months ago

              and they keep losing and they deserves it

        • Vazza
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Is it just me or is this gameweek proving to be utterly boring?

          1. BeWater
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            It's not just you.

          2. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Until the Spurs game

          3. Third Eye Vision
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            The Everton game was brilliant.

            1. Third Eye Vision
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 4 months ago

              I liked the Friday night game too.

        • The Red Devil
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          How poor has Brewster been that he can't even get in this out of sorts Sheffield lineup :/

        • DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Are Bamford and Wilson better value than DCL?

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            What's wrong with DCL?

          2. Gobigorgohome
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            nah

          3. SHOOTER MCGINN
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            I'd say 7M DCL yes. 8M DCL not so sure

            1. Nightcrawler
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 4 months ago

              Makes no sense

              1. SHOOTER MCGINN
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 4 months ago

                Explain

          4. Puncheon Guly
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Who's the second player in the DCL option?

            I have DCL and Brewster so would say yes

          5. Third Eye Vision
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Bamford and DCL are both amazing value. Hard to pick a winner.

        • DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Another week another big green arrow about to be turned red by Kane and Son....

          1. Puncheon Guly
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Bring in Kane and Son then?

            1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 4 months ago

              Too late if you have a bad rank. Nothing to gain

              1. Gobigorgohome
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 4 months ago

                my rank improved massively by captaining Kane last GW

                1. Gobigorgohome
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 4 months ago

                  from 400K to 100K in one GW

              2. La Roja
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 4 months ago

                i disagree, because its only gw12.

          2. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Zaha you mean

        • R.C
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Quincy Promes jailed for stabbing his relative.

          1. Puncheon Guly
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            You're kidding? I just brought him in for a -4!

        • gergin
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Any news about Jota injury?

          1. Third Eye Vision
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Presumably, it will be discussed after today’s game.

        • Totalfootball
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Is Stones nailed ?

          1. Puncheon Guly
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            No

          2. Third Eye Vision
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            Do you even need to ask?

          3. Gobigorgohome
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 4 months ago

            no of course
            Larporte wont be benched always

        • WVA
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 4 months ago

          Haha this article title sums up my FPL season, KDB and Bruno owner no defenders from either!

          Saints to win and go 3rd!!!!