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Replacements needed for De Bruyne and Vardy in wake of long-term injuries

A large number of Fantasy Premier League managers now have big transfer decisions to make ahead of Gameweek 20.

In the build-up to the FA Cup fourth round, Kevin De Bruyne (£11.9m) and Jamie Vardy (£10.1m) were both ruled out for several weeks.

The Belgian came off with a suspected muscle problem in Manchester City’s 2-0 win over Aston Villa.

Guardiola has now confirmed that De Bruyne will miss the next four to six weeks as he recovers from a hamstring issue.

Meanwhile, Vardy has been dealing with pain from a hernia in recent weeks and Brendan Rodgers has seen fit to get him under the surgeon’s knife to correct the problem.

That has ruled him out for “a few weeks” just as Fantasy managers were considering investment in light of Leicester’s appealing short-term fixtures.

With some managers facing two high-profile absentees in the coming weeks, the number of hits for Gameweek 20 is likely to increase.

This is also the sort of development that could tempt some into deploying the Wildcard.

Either way, the Season Ticker and other Members Area tools are sure to help anyone struggling in light of this news.

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  1. Il Capitano
    • 1 Year
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Robertson to Dias/Cancelo for free was my pencilled in transfer this week. With the Vardy news do I add Vardy to Kane for a hit? Or wait until next week and play Adams/Soucek? Not sure I want 3 attackers in the Spurs-Pool game.

    1 FT 0 ITB

    McCarthy (Johnstone)
    Robbo Justin Coufal Stones (Lowton)
    Salah Bruno Son Raphinha (Soucek)
    Adams Bamford (Vardy*)

    1. Ian & Zen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Stick with your plan to swap out Robinson
      Kane may rise in price & Vardy fall, but I doubt you’ll get you 4 point hit back - current player more than likely to return points, plus good to be patient & see if other injuries/ fixture cancellations

      1. Il Capitano
        • 1 Year
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Thanks for talking sense, cheers

  2. merin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    KDB -> Gundogan a no brainer?

    Martinez Steer
    Chilwell Cancelo Coufal Dallas KWP
    Salah KDB Bruno Son Soucek
    Antonio Bamford Watkins

    1 FT, 0 ITB

    1. jayzico
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      No disrespect, but with that team yes. Think what you could do with the funds. I did it so I can do Cavani>Kane next week.

      1. Threat Level Midnight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Thats a very good team? Not sure what that statement even means.

      2. WE GO FOR IT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        What's so wrong with the team which lead you to say 'with that team'?

        1. gart888
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          He's suggesting to use the funds that move gains to bring in a premium forward.

          1. WE GO FOR IT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            9 months, 9 days ago

            I got the second part. But he also said 'No disrespect, but with that team, yes' impying the team isn't good?. That is a pretty solid team with a good bench ad players with potential DGW in the future.

            He had 4 premium mids. Of course he wasn't going to be able to fit a premium striker in.

    2. WE GO FOR IT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I like the move. I would wait to see how City play without KdB before making it though

      1. merin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Cheers

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Grealish also an option.

    4. jayzico
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      My bad. It is pretty good TBH.

  3. Pukkipartyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    So KDB to Gundo is the move right?

    1. Gharvey
      • 3 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Yup. Maybe Sterling? He’s due a haul

    2. WE GO FOR IT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I'd wait to see City playe first.

      1. Pukkipartyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Why? He is on pens and thats enough.

        1. WE GO FOR IT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          Then you can make the move.
          City struggled to score more than 2 goals with KdB in the side. I would just want to see how they play with him out to see before picking someone. Sterling and Foden are good picks for me as well. So, I want to see if they play just as good or worse without KdB.

          1. goooner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            9 months, 9 days ago

            City didnt struggle when KdB and sterling left pitch. They scored 2 in 30 min.

            1. WE GO FOR IT
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              9 months, 9 days ago

              That was a tired Villa who were playing theri first game in 20 days, and the goal which opened the scoring was complete farcical.

              1. goooner
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                9 months, 9 days ago

                LOL city had 2 games in 4 days.

  4. MoeZe3bi
    • 5 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Bench one:
    A) Bamford (new)
    B) Raphinha (new)
    C) Wilson (LEE)

    1. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      if that's your biggest issue, you're in a good place .... I'd bench Raphinha there ...

      1. MoeZe3bi
        • 5 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Thanks for the advice. I don’t have Vardy and kdb so I’m not so involved in the current scene.

    2. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      B

    3. Il Capitano
      • 1 Year
      9 months, 9 days ago

      B as it stands, see how Newcastle get on tomorrow

    4. Gharvey
      • 3 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      B

  5. faux_C
    • 9 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    G2G?

    McCarthy
    Robertson, Mee, Cancelo
    Salah, Fernandes, Son, Gundogan, Raphinha
    Antonio, Bamford

    (Martinez, Firmino, Coufal, ARobinson)

    1. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Why Firmino ffs

      1. aleksaa2
        • 5 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        I'd start Coufal instead of Mee, personally.

      2. faux_C
        • 9 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Bought him just after Palace!

  6. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 4 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Well, this sucks...

    Best Vardy replacement up to 10.8?
    A) Werner
    B) Jesus
    C) Cavani
    D) DCL
    E) Ings
    F) What's up with Kun?
    G) Anyone else to consider?

    1. faux_C
      • 9 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      either Ings, or downgrade and re-invest

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 4 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        I'd happily downgrade, but who?

        1. faux_C
          • 9 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          Watkins?

          1. My heart goes Salalalalah
            • 4 Years
            9 months, 9 days ago

            Oooh good fixtures. Surely he should score one day? LOL
            Think that's the best plan yet, thanks.

            Or should I just play one of Soucek, Dallas, Coufal, and get Kane for -4 next week? Hmmm

    2. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Yeah, Antonio or Bamford probably as good as any of those options though I am tempted by a punt on Cavani

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 4 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Got both LOL. I can't see many options

    3. MoeZe3bi
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Kun tested positive yesterday. How does the rest of your team look? I’d say you should find a way to get kane in, especially if you don’t have Son.

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 4 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Salah Son Bruno Soucek Raphinha
        Bamford Antonio VARDY*

        1. MoeZe3bi
          • 5 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          If you downgrade Soucek/Raphinha to a 4.5 you’ll have enough to get kane, won’t you?

          1. My heart goes Salalalalah
            • 4 Years
            9 months, 9 days ago

            That'll be for -8. But good plan. Maybe for -4 next week after Pool?

    4. jayzico
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      The all-new Antonio?

  7. Stand By Mee
    • 5 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    I am on -4 (don´t ask why) already and I have to replace Kdb so that will give me a -8 for sure, probably going for Madd or Grealish

    I also wish I had Antonio who is going up in price and also I would like replace Soucek with Smith Rowe so I can alternate Antonio, Bamford and ESR always benching one of them.

    That would be a -16 to do all I want... Should I use my WC?

    Martinez - Steer
    Dias - Stones - Coufal - Holding - Mitchell
    Salah - Kdb* - Bruno - Rashford - Soucek
    Kane - Bamford - Brewster

    Ayling -> Mitchell (done)
    Dallas -> Stones (done)
    Kdb -> Maddison -8
    Soucek -> ESR -12
    Brewster -> Antonio -16

    WC?

    1. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 6 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Grealish one YC away from a ban

      1. circusmonkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 months, 8 days ago

        Just like Diego Costa was for weeks and then the threshold went to 10.

    2. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I'd just do the KDB one this week and play Soucek and then sort out next week, next week

      1. Stand By Mee
        • 5 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Yeah I think a -8 will not be the end of the world and besides...,

        Antonio has cry /LIV nex which are no exactly good fixtures. He can wait until gw22 I guess, when he has 3 good ones in a row.

        Cheers

    3. Wag the Drog
      • 9 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Man i'm in a very similar boat.

    4. FPL.team
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I would just play Holding or Mitchell, no extra hit.

    5. WE GO FOR IT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Just hold man. No need of for an extra hit. See how City play without KdB vs WBA and then pick one of City mids/Maddison next week.

  8. Weak Become Heros
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Im not so sure Gundo is such a great pick with KDB out. I’d like to see how they set up first before diving in for him. His position are requirements within that midfield might change.

    1. Wag the Drog
      • 9 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      thoughts on Foden?

    2. faux_C
      • 9 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      He's 5.5

    3. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Well I’m happy to replace Soucek with Gundo. He’s that cheap.

      1. Threat Level Midnight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Ive done the same

    4. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 months, 8 days ago

      It isn't a risk getting Gundo. It frees money for Kane, Raz is in my auction team, the others: who knows who plays?

  9. Wag the Drog
    • 9 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    On a -4 already after a moment of madness. Would you WC this team?

    McCarthy (4.0)
    Bellerin*-Saiss*-Stones-Justin-Kilman*
    Bruno-Rash-Son-Neto*-Bissouma*
    Kane-Ollie-Vardy*

    1. Stand By Mee
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Yeah I am also tempted by WC; however, as I already used my FH I feel I´ll be in big trouble in the next BGWs and DGWs with no FH and no WC... Do you still have your FH?

      1. Wag the Drog
        • 9 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        No i just used it to great effect to get me back in the mix in my ML

  10. El Lobito 10
    • 4 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    KdB and Dier> Stones and Rashford. Sorted. Triple Citeh DEF

  11. claretparrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Vardy owner with one FT and no Spurs.
    Just keep it simple and go Kane, right? Other option would be a Utd forward

    1. Il Capitano
      • 1 Year
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Yes, no need to overcomplicate

  12. NateDog
    • 1 Year
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Anyone know what the highest price ever a player has been on FPL? Had a Google search and saw a few comments saying Ronaldo, Henry and RVP were 14 at different points but I'm wondering what the highest any player has gotten to is. I'm guessing it has to be Ronaldo anyway but can't imagine Henry would be far behind

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Henry I can’t remember but Ronaldo and RVP were 14. I think RVP got to 14.1.

      1. Sheriff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        RVP I'm sure got an early price increase in Moyes season after a good score vs Swansea. Think 14.1 or 14.2 might be right.

    2. GreennRed
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Good question. How high did Bale and Salah go?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Bale was never very much.

      2. aleksaa2
        • 5 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        13.4 was Salah at his peak value I think, Bale not even close to them

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          Yeah 13.3-4

  13. Tsparkes10
    • 3 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Good enough to save? Or take a hit??

    Martinez
    Justin Dallas Stones Dias
    Raph Bruno Salah Son
    Bamford Antonio
    (Johnstone, Coufal,Soucek,Vardy)

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 3 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Have one FT

    2. money face bandwagon
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      why take a hit?

      1. GreennRed
        • 10 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Vardy to Kane.

    3. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Try -20 this time, maybe it'll pay off like in this GW haha.
      I'd play Coufal instead of Dallas, but g2g.

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 3 Years
        9 months, 8 days ago

        Hahaha I wished it was that easy

    4. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      It’s good.

    5. Carefree Crew
      • 3 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      As Vardy is out for 3 weeks, I'd consider him for Kane if you have enough £ITB?
      Which player / s don't you like that makes you think about taking a hit?

  14. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Vardy, KDB, Holding -> Kane, Maddison, Dias (triple City defense) for - 8?

    1. GreennRed
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      No. Keep Holding for this GW.

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Why get rid of Holding? And for a hit is so bizarre.

      1. Scots Gooner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Not so much I want rid of Holding, I want triple city defense for their next three. It was my intended transfer before KDB and Vardy were ruled out.

        Can see Arsenal conceding to Southampton, particularly at St Mary's.

        Think an extra hit to spread the funds and get the team I like a week early isn't such a big compromise.

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          Well to be honest, if that’s the way you feel then go for it. No point asking us if that’s what you really want to do as our opinions don’t really matter up against your own desires.

          1. Scots Gooner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            9 months, 9 days ago

            Don't mean to sound dismissive, just rationalising my thoughts. Appreciate the opinions/advice, will mull it over some more.

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              9 months, 9 days ago

              You don’t sound dismissive. You just sound like you know what you want.

        2. GreennRed
          • 10 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          4 points saved could help your rank this GW, the next GW just a few days later. There'll be a lot of post-BB, KDB injury, Vardy injury, Salah out of form, hits taken.

          1. Scots Gooner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            9 months, 9 days ago

            Yeah, thats probably the more rational/sensible play.

            I've made some good ground in mini leagues taking hits the past few weeks/months. I've perhaps become too comfortable with them.

            Thanks for the advice.

    3. WE GO FOR IT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Are you really gaining from the extra hit this week? Holding willl most probably get 2 and Dias will most probably get 6. The only way you will gain, is if Dias gets bonus, which to be fair is possible if CIty don't run riot. But even then, I wouldn't take the risk to gain 1/2 points.

  15. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Bellerin likely to play?

    1. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      He should.

    2. GreennRed
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Probably though Cedric was very good when he took his place. Depends on Legoman.

  16. abaalan
    • 5 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Really stuck on who to replace Vardy with... no options look particularly appealing (own Kane and Antonio already). Got 11.2 to spend...

    1. GreennRed
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Fodder and update mids, backs?

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I’m keen to see how Watkins does tomorrow.

    3. Would Ed Woodward
      • 2 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Cavani, Ings, DCL, Bamford (anyone against Newcastle is good atm), lots of options.

    4. Gharvey
      • 3 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Which Chelsea striker(s) will start v wolves?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        😆

  17. Jdpz
    • 1 Year
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Dier to Stones for a hit?

    1. KAALI_DAAL
      • 1 Year
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Nah

  18. Pukkipartyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Any toughts of triple City Def? I was thinking Barnes/Maddison over Gundo.

    1. Gharvey
      • 3 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I’m thinking the same. Keeper and two centre backs safest options

  19. Pep Roulette
    • 4 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    On WC

    A. Antonio
    B. DCL

    1. GreennRed
      • 10 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      A

  20. Gharvey
    • 3 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Cavani definite starter?

    1. Sid07
      • 7 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Current form yes
      Not sure long-term

    2. WE GO FOR IT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I don't think he starts next game. I guess he'll get the Liverpool game at the weekend and then Martial-Rash-Greenwood vs Sheffield. Ole tried to early balls over the top vs Sheffield last month. If he tries the same, he will go for the 3 with more pace.

      Cavani will always be a risk for me unless one of Martial/Greenwood is out.

  21. Jon Snow
    • 6 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Any Leicester fans about? What formation are Leicester likely to use with no Vardy? Normally it's a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 right but will they go lone striker if Iheanacho or Perez come in?

  22. Sid07
    • 7 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Priority
    1) kane (343)
    2) Son (352)

    1. WE GO FOR IT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I always prefer Kane.

      Saying this as I sold him in DGW but I want him back soon. KdB out allows me that. So, I will probably double post the Chelsea game.

      1. Sid07
        • 7 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        Yes planning to get both
        Could do kdb + Brewster to Maddison + kane(-4)

        1. WE GO FOR IT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          9 months, 9 days ago

          Who'd be the 8th attacker than? Soucek?

          1. Sid07
            • 7 Years
            9 months, 8 days ago

            Yes

    2. Jon Snow
      • 6 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I prefer Kane. Especially with Vardy out, not alot of FWD options

    3. FPL_Shantz
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Against Liverpool I'd pick Son but long term it's Kane.

  23. dansmusen
    • 4 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Vardy news is annoying but maybe Vardy/Soucek to Ings/Maddison for a hit could be good.

    1. OptimusBlack
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Yees good option

  24. gart888
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    If we don't have Son or Kane already, is KDB to Son better than KDB to Gundo/Saka with a mind to upgrade a forward to Kane next week?

  25. FPL_Shantz
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Should I wildcard?

    Current team----
    Martinez (Button)
    Cancelo Coufal Dallas (KWP Douglas)
    KDB* Bruno Salah Grealish Soucek
    Bamford Kane (Brewster)
    0.7 mil in the bank.

    1. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      No

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      No

  26. REDMOND IN SANDALS
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Who will score more points in gw20
    Martial vs SHU
    Antonio vs CRY

    1. OptimusBlack
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Antonio

    2. gart888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      If same cost I'd probably rather Martial. Given the price difference give me Antonio.

    3. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Martial for me is a Brewster playing 90 every game

  27. La Roja
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Bilva going under the radar. Could be great pick in KDB’s absence.

  28. Captain Vantastic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Start Adams or Soucek this week?

  29. La Roja
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Have exact cash for below, is this worth -4?

    Bamford KDB ➡ Sterlo Cavani

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Neigh.

    2. aleksaa2
      • 5 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      I don't like that at all.

    3. gart888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Just do one half of it this week, one the next week. Unlikely the -4 pays off right away.

    4. swobe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      9 months, 9 days ago

      no

    5. jammie26
      9 months, 9 days ago

      Are you on drugs?

      1. La Roja
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 months, 9 days ago

        I wish

  30. Jdpz
    • 1 Year
    9 months, 9 days ago

    Play Raphinha or Soucek?