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Fantasy managers are masochists – and here’s why that’s a good thing

Former Fantasy Premier League (FPL) champion Simon March argues that feeling a bit of pain may not be a bad thing in our quest for a lofty overall rank.


Few would be surprised were they to discover that Fantasy Premier League is a game that attracts a community more prone than normal to masochism. No many FPL managers would last very long if they didn’t have at least an ambivalent relationship with pain and suffering. However, this tendency is not limited to FPL managers and is, in fact, present in all of us to some extent. It can also play a key role in determining which of us experiences success in life, and which of us don’t.

The significance of this propensity towards inviting pain has been seen to vary from person to person and, in the context of FPL, it may not only help explain some of the differences in playing style and risk preferences from manager to manager but, also, why we sometimes self-sabotage in our FPL decision-making. These are some questions this article will consider.

Hedonic Reversal

‘Hedonic Reversal’ is the state in which we, as humans, derive pleasure in things that cause us pain or discomfort. All of us experience this to an extent, it’s a big part of why we enjoy things like rollercoasters, horror movies or spicy food.

Hedonic reversal manifests itself biologically via the release of endorphins into the bloodstream as a response to us experiencing pain. Endorphins are, among other things, the body’s naturally occurring anaesthetic and they function in a similar fashion to opioids, both in their ability to numb pain and their tendency to create a sense of euphoria in those experiencing their release.

Runners and gym-goers might recognise this effect as the ‘runner’s high’ or a ‘pump’ respectively, and it is essentially the same mechanism. The evolutionary purpose for hedonic reversal is not entirely clear, some believe it occurs as a means of balancing out our response to emotional or physical pain, others believe it exists to reward and incentivise risk-taking, something which has helped us, overall, to advance as a species. The bottom line, however, is that a period of physical or emotional pain is likely to trigger a release of happy hormones to help cheer you up, basically.

Mavericks and Dullards

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FPL managers are known to differ greatly in their approaches to taking risks. We often colloquially refer to risk-takers as ‘Mavericks’ and risk-averse managers as ‘Dullards’. While it is true that risk preferences are the result of many factors, hedonic reversal could be a significant element of the more maverick playing style.

Everybody knows how good a feeling it is to take a risk and for it to pay off. We also know how bad it feels to take a risk and for it to backfire. But those who have experienced such backfires a few times might come to learn that, when things go wrong, it might not feel as bad as you expect. In fact, the worse it gets, the better it is likely to feel on a body chemistry level.

With this in mind, it’s not unreasonable to believe that some managers might come to fear failure less than others do. They might even get to a point, however subconsciously, where they even seek it. Win or lose, they eventually get the same positive feeling physically, so why not take risks? 

This disposition towards seeking pain could explain a lot (Spurs fans, for example) but the key insight from an FPL perspective might be that, if these quasi-masochistic tendencies manifest themselves more significantly in some people than others, they may have also a dramatic effect on the way those individuals play FPL. The natural question, therefore, is whether this is a good or a bad thing.

While it’s true that more risk does not necessarily equal more points in FPL (indeed, it could easily equal the opposite) you cannot get a really, really good rank without taking at least some chances. That could mean anything from some risky transfers to some maverick captaincy decisions. How many risks are sensible to take will always be something context-dependent, but it stands to reason that a manager who is unafraid to take an educated punt possesses a potentially valuable characteristic if they are looking for an elite-level rank or if they dream of winning FPL. As the aphorism goes; you may find plenty of risk-averse millionaires but you will find very few risk-averse billionaires. 

Of course, you will also find plenty of risk-taking people who are flat-broke so moderation is key. Allowing your FPL decisions to be driven by a subconscious desire to feel pain is likely to leave your arrows as red as that room in Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s good to take some risks but they have to be considered ones.

However, if you are a manager who is very risk-averse, perhaps to the point of detriment, experiencing a bit of the pain of failure might actually be good for you. In fact, it may be exactly what you need to remove the fear of taking risks and condition your subconscious to accept them more easily. As many have observed, our best FPL seasons seem to disproportionately follow our worst ones and so perhaps ‘learning to take a fall’ represents a key rite of passage in getting us there.


Why does good FPL form end and what can we do about it?

Elsewhere in Double Gameweek 32

Jamie Vardy (£10.1m) secured a double-digit haul as Leicester saw off West Bromwich Albion by a 3-0 scoreline.

After returning in just one match between Gameweeks 26 and 31, the Foxes’ forward notched a goal and assist against rather pedestrian opposition.

Crystal Palace are Vardy’s next opponents, whose recent defensive form suggest another big haul could await him in Blank Gameweek 33, hence why we have chosen him for the Scout Picks.

Jonny Evans (£5.5m) came away with a double-digit score of his own as he kept a clean sheet and found the net in the first half.

Wesley Fofana (£5.0m) managed to capitalise on the shut-out early as Marc Albrighton (£5.2m) replaced him just after the hour-mark.

Meanwhile, Ricardo Pereira (£5.9m) stayed on the bench as an unused substitute, with suggestions that he will come back into the team against Crystal Palace.

“I’m very conscious that Ricardo is coming back from a long-term injury and I always felt between when he came back and the end of the season we’re just getting him some minutes. I don’t think he’s ready to play three games in a week, especially having played on Sunday.” – Brendan Rodgers

Kelechi Iheanacho (£6.1m) continued his scoring form, adding an eight goal in his last six Premier League matches.

However, his burgeoning ownership might have hoped for more returns as he missed a number of big chances to walk away with a hat-trick.

His persistence in front of goal, combined with a Blank Gameweek 33 meeting with Crystal Palace, has also earned Iheanacho a place in the Scout Picks…

Provisional bonus points

  • 3 – Jonny Evans
  • 2 – Timothy Castagne
  • 1 – Jamie Vardy
853 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Tmel
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Best 5.0 or under defender for the next few weeks?

    1. Silecro
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Fofana

      1. RogDog_jimmy
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        Any idea why he came off so early today?

        1. Silecro
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 days ago

          Game was over, being rested

        2. Tmel
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 days ago

          I think because he's fasting

    2. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Targett

  2. Feed tha Sheep
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Best move?

    A. Gundagon > Greenwood
    B. Stones > TAA
    C. Son & Stones > Greenwood & TAA (-4)
    D. Gundagon & Stones > Greenwood & Castagne (-4)

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      A i think
      but B might be more pressing with Stones's red.
      D is interesting. Castagne looked good today but they don't paly WBA every week..

    2. Killitzer
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      I have Gundo and Stones and went B

  3. Viper
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Is there any way to watch Blackbox from the start or do I have to wait until its finished & uploaded again?

    1. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Can you watch it on youtube?

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Just move scroll to the start

    3. Viper
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Sorted. Thanks

  4. gomez123
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    any prices rises tonight??

    1. PompeyUpNorth!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Vardy

      1. PompeyUpNorth!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        And Kane dropping

  5. Il Capitano
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Used FT to throw Stones to TAA, was planning on Son > Salah this week but my defence was in a bit of a state. If Jota is confirmed out tomorrow switch him to Greenwood (-4)?

    0FT 1m ITB

    Martinez
    Digne Targett TAA Azpi
    ESR Bruno Jota Lingard
    Nacho (C) Bamf

    Fabri - Cresswell* Kane* Son

  6. Tmel
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    I currently have 10 players (9 if Raphina isn't fit). Best move?

    a) White > Castagne
    b) White & Raphina > Fofana & Greenwood (-4)

  7. Kane Train
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Crystal Palace give up the most chances. Surely a double up on Vardy & Naccho with their remaining fixtures and fighting for top 4 is the way to go

    1. PompeyUpNorth!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Agreed

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      In 2013/14, a manager called Brendan Rogers took a club called Liverpool to within 3 points of the title

      He had two guys called Suarez & Sturridge playing up top for him, and ensured those two guys had the freedom to be scoring left right & centre

      I think he’s finally found his new SAS with Vardy & Nacho tbh

  8. corderz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Transfer suggestions? 1FT

    Mendy Forster
    TAA Reguilion Shaw Rudiger Holding
    Salah KDB Son Jota Lingard
    Kane Iheanacho Vydra

    1. Kane Train
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Kane > Vardy

    2. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Kdb out surely

      1. corderz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        What's the latest on him?

  9. moz_1983
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Saiss or Castagne?

    1. how now brown cow
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Castagne

    2. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Castagne

  10. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Best 5th mid on WC?

    Is martinelli worth a punt?

    1. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Be lucky to get 1 start in every 2 from him I’d say.

      Saka only slightly pricier?

      1. how now brown cow
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        True.

        I'm too penny-pinching for my own good sometimes.

        Thanks.

  11. Ian Davis
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    I’m going to risk doing Kane > Vardy as I’ve got a feeling Kane will rush to be back and play in the final and might aggravate injury in the game.

    Which additional transfer to make?:

    A) Dias > TAA
    B) Gundo > Jota
    C) Dias/Gundo > Castagne/Jota
    D) Dias/Gundo > Castsgne/Greenwood

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      I like the reasoning for Kane. I’d do A as well. Jota I don’t trust much.

  12. Tinmen
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Guys, Greenwood or Maddison ?

    1. Prison Mike
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      I’m wondering the same, Maddison didn’t look great tonight..

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Greenwood

    3. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      I’m thinking I might do J-Rodriguez instead of either of them.
      Extra fixture.
      Interesting differential. Pretty good fixtures all around.

    4. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Greenwood.

  13. FPL Alaska
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Suggestions on what to do here? 2 FT, 0.4 ITB. Am thinking Dias out for sure (shoudn't have kept on WC). Possibly Son out? I suddenly feel like my team has a lot rotation risk.

    Mendy
    Rudigier - Shaw - TAA - Fofana
    Salah - Bruno - Jota - Lingard
    Iheanacho - Vydra

    (Forster; Kane, Son, Dias)

  14. Kane Train
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Anyone with free hit. Are you using this week or saving for the DGW

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      100% saving

    2. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Still undecided, think I might save. Guess I will end up playing it in GW38 😛

  15. gomez123
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Got the exact funds to do Son & Kane to Salah & Vardy.....overnight price changes will mess it up.....do it Y/N

    1. Eastman
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      But you’d want them both back after this gw surely?

  16. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    All set?

    Mendy
    Azpi Rudi Targett TAA Holding
    Salah(c) Jota Lingard
    Vardy Nacho

    Forster Vydra Son Neto 0ft 5.4mitb

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Jota could be an issue.

  17. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Anyone heard any gossip linking Bielsa with Spurs job? Almost definitely nothing in it but Leeds legend Johnny Giles said on radio here tonight he heard a rumour Spurs after him. Them being interested and him leaving Leeds are worlds apart for me. Currently 33/1 to get the job.

    1. Eastman
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      They could do worse

      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        A lot worse.

  18. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Well I think I ended up with 10 starters. And got 52-12 = 40

    It was not a good gameweek.

    Still the minus 12 I did actually worked out, so it would have been worse otherwise.
    Iheanacho IN Richarlison OUT +4
    Maddison IN Ward-Prowse OUT -2
    Lingard IN Gündogan OUT +6
    Lloris IN Pope OUT +6

    Hopefully next gameweek will be better and with a bit of luck phillips starts so I will have 11 players.

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      You are set up going forward.

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        With a bit of luck. That was the plan. But I have dropped from about 400k ish to nearly 700k ish in the last few gameweeks.
        If it works I figure I could get back to 400k ish by the end of the season.
        As it is very tight in that sort of OR.

  19. CABAYE4
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Have Kane, Son & Dias with a blank and want to transfer out one so I have 11 plus a sub.

    Who would you look to sell?

    Feel like Kane to Vardy has the biggest upside this GW but if fit getting Kane back for 34 would be another transfer whereas if I sold Dias for say Shaw I don’t think I’d get him back this season.

  20. YoungPretender
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Ridiculous -12 or worth it?

    Kane, Son, Cresswell & Jota > Vardy, Salah, Fofana & Greenwood

    1. Eastman
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      No way

    2. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Absolutely not

      1. YoungPretender
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        Thank you, just what I needed! Haha

    3. Phil's Stamps
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      I expect a lot of hits this week but that seems excessive. Maybe Kane to Vardy and losing Cresswell seems ok, but not sure about the others.

    4. Big Hands Barry
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Depends on your squad. Right hand side will repay the hit this week but you'd only need a hit to get spurs back

  21. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    How did Vardy play tonight? I know he got a goal and assist. Wondering should I do Kane to him?

    1. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      If they were at full steam he could have had a monster haul

      Looked up for it but it was wba after all

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      The disappointment was him missing the “1 on 1” with Johnson, it was from 40 yards out and very wide, but he really has the ability to score there & would have had 16 points instead of 10

      Him & Nacho are by far the best double act in the league at the minute - they are lethal

  22. Phil's Stamps
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    2FT, thinking of spending 1 on Mendy to Martinez. I could switch Son to Maddison or someone, but I'd want him straight back in 34.

    Will the rest of this team scrape through BGW33?

    Martinez
    TAA Rudiger Shaw Veltman
    Salah Bruno Jota ESR
    Vardy Nacho

    Forster Mitchell Son* Kane* 0.1 ITB

    1. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Think with a FT I would do another transfer so you have 1 sub.

      1. Phil's Stamps
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        Cheers. I'm torn between attacking this GW and leaving an extra FT to see how the DGW falls.

  23. The FPL Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Thinking the following moves, have 2FT and 0.2itb

    a) Kane & Son to Vardy & Greenwood
    b) Kane to Vardy
    c) Something else?

    Mendy - Forster
    Rudiger – Phillips – Shaw – Holding – Coady
    Lingard – Jota – Bruno – Salah – Son
    Kane – Iheanacho – Bamford

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Have FH left as well.

    2. School of Poch
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Will you be looking to get the Spurs assets back?

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        Not as transfers, have a FH to use for the DGW assuming that comes.

        1. School of Poch
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 days ago

          Fair. Spurs don't have a DGW coming up again though right?

  24. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Gtg guys?

    Mendy
    Azpi Rudi Targett TAA Holding
    Salah(c) Jota Lingard
    Vardy Nacho

    Forster Vydra Son Neto 0ft 5.4mitb

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Look above.

      1. Stupendous
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 days ago

        Thanks

  25. School of Poch
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Literally can't think of any moves I really like and have 2FT. Which option is best, if any.

    Would love some help here as need to make a decision tonight ideally.

    A: Masuaku > Ward
    B: Masuaku > Ayling
    C: Son Masuaku > Maddison Castagne
    D: Son Masuaku > Greenwood Castagne
    E: Something else?

    Mendy
    Coady TAA Shaw Holding Masuaku
    Bruno Jota Lingard Salah
    Iheanacho

    Forster Davis Son Kane

    2FT 0.1ITB

    1. School of Poch
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Just thought of another option

      F: Masuaku > Veltman

  26. bruuuno
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Does Brewster Neto > Watkins Saka (-4) look ok?

  27. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Question is now...

    Salah or Vardy captain?

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Both good options and not so highly owned as usual.

  28. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Anything worth a hit here?

    Martinez
    TAA Azpi Rudiger
    Salah(c) Bruno Jota Lingard Raphinha
    Watkins Iheanacho
    3.9 Struijk White Kane

    0 FT 1.8 ITB

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Kane to Vardy maybe

  29. AdamJ91
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    Fernandes & Bamford > Greenwood & Vardy (-4) for the double Leicester attack whilst keeping Utd coverage or am I crazy?

  30. OneDennisBergkamp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 days ago

    is Jota injured?! not in training

    1. The Count of Monte Cristo
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 days ago

      Think we are awaiting press conf tomorrow