Scout Notes

Leeds defenders continue fine form with another positive ‘big six’ showing

Leeds United 0-0 Manchester United

Bonus:  Aaron Wan Bissaka (£5.7m) x3, Luke Shaw (£5.4m) x2, Diego Llorente (£4.4m) x1 

The Uniteds of Leeds and Manchester played out a curiously sterile draw from which only those Fantasy managers with key defenders in their teams profited.

Just as well, then, that three of the five most popular players in action brought in clean sheet points, with visiting full-backs Luke Shaw (£5.4m and 16.5%) and Aaron Wan Bissaka (£5.7m and 17%) garnering two and three bonus points respectively for good measure.

The other well-owned defender, Leeds’ Stuart Dallas (£5.2m and 25.9%), was again employed in his now almost customary midfield role. 

He ended up with a team-leading two attempts on the day, although neither he nor any other Leeds player ever truly stretched away keeper Dean Henderson (£5.2m).

No Offence

If Henderson was hardly tested, his opposite number Illan Meslier (£4.7m) did at least have a tricky save or two to make, most notably when pushing away an excellent Marcus Rashford (£9.6m) free-kick.

One player who failed to trouble the keeper was FPL’s most popular player, Bruno Fernandes (£11.6m).

The 57%-owned midfielder was never backward in coming forward, leading the way on the day for attempts (five). 

But none were on target and he missed with one very presentable chance inside the area, which is indicative of a man short of form, even if the excellent man-marking job done on him by Kalvin Phillips (£4.9m) was a major mitigating factor.

One Manchester midfielder having a much happier time of it is Mason Greenwood (£7.1m), with his ownership more than doubling in anticipation of a fourth straight haul.

The omens looked even better when manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer dropped Edinson Cavani (£7.9m) to the bench, with Greenwood nominally playing as a lone striker.

But he ended up rotating positions with his fellow frontmen and the fact he led the way for shots on target (three), which was three quarters of the team’s entire output, was cold comfort for his new owners.

At the other end of the pitch, the 43.9%-owned forward Patrick Bamford (£6.5m) could only dream of such figures. 

He had no shots at all, and just the one penalty area touch, as he failed to score for a fourth straight Gameweek.

Getting Defensive

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Despite a 6-2 win for the Red Devils in the reverse fixture this season, a goalless draw was perhaps not such a surprise after all.

Leeds have developed a taste for frustrating clubs with European Super League pretensions recently, beating Manchester City, drawing with Liverpool and playing out a stalemate with Chelsea.

Coach Marcelo Bielsa seemed to suggest his players have become less gung-ho as the season has progressed:

The group of players have constructed a solid group. Throughout this time they’ve made errors and learned how to correct them. I have the feeling that there has been a growth in the maturity and experience to manage these games.

Indeed, over their last 10 matches, they have conceded on only eight occasions.

While they’ve allowed more shots than any other Premier League club in that time, the opportunities they have given away have been of relatively low quality: only four sides have conceded fewer ‘big chances’ from Gameweek 25 onwards.

If they can display similar solidity over their final five fixtures, involving Brighton, Burnley and Southampton away and visits from Spurs and West Brom, then their cut-price defensive options could prove to be fruitful investments.

Pascal Struijk (£4.0m) is especially cheap and has clean sheet points from two of his last four starts.

As for Solskjaer’s men, the competitively-priced Shaw remains an attractive option, particularly as he offers so much going forward.

He led the way for chances created at Elland Road, with five, and produced twice as many crosses (12) as his nearest rival on the day, Fernandes.

Post-match, Solskjaer couldn’t help but mention the Europa League semi-final first leg to come on Thursday:

We are looking forward to the semis. We have felt the disappointment too many times in semis and we are looking forward to attacking these games. They are challenges for us and great tests for the group.

With United needing only four points from their final five matches to sew up a spot in next season’s Champions League, there is a question of whether Solskjaer now throws his weight behind the tilt at the Europa League and rests key players on the domestic front – starting with the Gameweek 34 and 35 fixtures that follow the two-legged semi-final against Roma.

Solskjaer does have a strong enough squad to chop and change his attacking line-up, with Paul Pogba (£7.6m) another to be benched on Sunday.

Perhaps if a clash with a Sheffield United or a Southampton was scheduled for next weekend, the United boss would more seriously contemplate fielding an under-strength side.

The fact that it’s the old enemy does, however, maybe make it less likely.


Leeds United XI (4-1-4-1): Meslier; Ayling, Llorente, Struijk, Alioski; Phillips; Dallas, Hélder Costa (Klich 72), Roberts (Koch 77), Harrison (Poveda-Ocampo 68); Bamford.

Manchester United XI (4-2-3-1): Henderson; Wan-Bissaka, Lindelöf, Maguire, Shaw; McTominay, Fred (van de Beek 89); Fernandes, James (Pogba 76), Rashford (Cavani 86); Greenwood.

244 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Jafalad
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    We are the Leeds...the Mighty Mighty Leeds...

  2. No Professionals
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Not a bad week, trailing by 19 in ML.

    Martinez
    Digne Dallas Dunk
    Salah Fernandes Lingard Lucas
    Kane Iheanacho Watkins

    Areola Shaw Jota Burn
    1ft 0.5m

    A) fernandes to son
    B) Burn to Rudiger
    C) Roll

    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      It's sod'd law that as soon as you move out Bruno he'll go and score.

      1. No Professionals
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Yeah 2nd minute penalty v Liverpool guaranteed. Plan would be to get Greenwood for the potential double.

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      C

    3. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      2

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        B

  3. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    WHINEWATCH

    a fairly good concentrated whine about watkins assist,but overall way way short of lukakus shoelace and kanes hair assists,come on boys you can do better...

    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      I'm a Watkins owner and it was clearly an assist.

      1. Gentle_Turks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Should have gone to Specsavers.

        1. Jafalad
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          I actually went 4 weeks ago.

      2. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        me too ,most enjoyable 3 points

    2. The Point About It Is
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      The biggest flaw in the Watkins assistgate hypothesis is why would Watkins 'intend' to pass it to Davis if he wanted AVL to score?

      1. Gentle_Turks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Of course it was an attempted headed goal which finds the West Brom defender who controls it on his chest. At that point it's a new play and therefore, by FPL's own rules, no assist.

    3. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      As a Watkins owner it's funny seeing the backlash - I don't have Salah and felt equally hard done by when he mysteriously got 2 bps

      1. Gentle_Turks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Nothing mysterious about it. The bonus points are always checked after the match has finished before awarding final points. This sometimes leads to a recalculation, either up or down.

  4. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Which FT?

    A) Vydra to Wood
    B) Vydra to Nacho
    C) Jota to Greenwood

    Fromt 8 are

    Bruno, Salah, Jota, Lingard, Raphina
    Kane, Watkins, Vydra

    1. No Professionals
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      B

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      C

    3. MightyGar
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      B

      1. Farteta
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        B

  5. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Salah (MUN) or Bale (SHU) for a 1 week move?

    1. FPL ElasticO
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Bale

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Bale is the punt.

    3. MightyGar
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      United love the 0-0's, give Bale a punt

  6. FPL ElasticO
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    I have 2 FTs? Is this transfer worth doing?

    Leno >> Meslier (bps magnet & Leeds defence looks good recently)

  7. Eastman
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Kane fully fit now or may not play? Not sure whether to bring him back.

    1. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Fit but knackered. Not used to the hard graft that Jose asked him to put in this season. Look at his assist record suddenly. He used to wait for others to set him up in past seasons.

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        4 assists in Kane's last twenty PL games, has dropped off quite a bit.

  8. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Martinez
    Shaw Rudiger Coufal
    Salah Bruno Greenwood Lingard
    Kane DCL Nacho

    (Fabri Shaw Jota Struijk)
    1 FT & 0.0m

    A) Jota ➡️ Raphinha if fit (Bench Greenwood)
    B) Bruno ➡️ Son
    C) Save FT or something else

    Need to free up about 1.5m to upgrade Fabri & Struijk for BB.
    Thoughts?

    1. Old Gregg
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      I would do a + b over the coming weeks or certianly get Rapha in.

      Probably b 1st.

    2. Neo-Viper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Keep Strujik till he is assured to start or are you eyeing a replacement already?

      I would do A.

      Benching Greenwood top this week.

  9. Old Gregg
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Martinez
    Taa-Shaw-Rudiger
    Bruno-Lingz-Son-Mount
    Bam-Iheanacho-Kane

    areola-Jota-Burn- Stones

    Does Mount play v Fulham sandwiched in between x2 Real Madrid fixtures?.

    1) Mount > Rapha
    2) Mount > Maddison
    3) Roll

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      1 looks good if he's fit.

    2. Neo-Viper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      1 definitely.

      See how Madders play again today

  10. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Mendy
    TAA Shaw Rudiger
    Salah Jota Fernandes Lingard Greenwood
    Kane Iheanacho

    Forster Vydra Holding Kilman

    2.6 itb, 2FT

    1. Jota >> Son
    2. Jota Shaw >> Son Fofana
    3. Other??

    Early thoughts...?

    Thanks

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      1

    2. Old Gregg
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      1

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        just 1

    3. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      1.

    4. Ruudy Van
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      1

    5. willos_wanderers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Are you not worried about Mendy's security of starts?

      1. FCSB
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Yes very... considered him Schmeichel ?!

  11. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 10 days ago

    Vardy Hattie tonight would be nice.

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Indeed it would

    2. Neo-Viper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Will justify my going for him instead of Wood on WC

      1. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Nothing will justify that. Lol.

        1. Neo-Viper
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          hahahahah!

    3. Party time
        3 years, 10 days ago

        5 goals from him tonight. We feast!

    4. tbos83
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      OK to roll FT?

      Mendy
      Digne Targett Maguire
      Mount Bruno Lingard Son
      Watkins Kane Bamford

      Areola Jota Amartey Stones

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Bam Bam to Nacho?

        1. tbos83
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          It is probably wise - or maybe for Watkins

          1. Neo-Viper
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 10 days ago

            with the double coming up, i would hold Watkins.

    5. Stranger Mings
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Hi Anyone heard if Ralph be back for next game as thinking about getting him? Thanks

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        He should be good to start against Brighton. We will know in during the week of course

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          Ok cheers of getting him over pereira if fit

    6. Neo-Viper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Johnstone
      TAA Coleman Castagne Dallas
      Salah Lingard Raphinha
      Kane Vardy Nacho

      Martinez Greenwood Dunk Trossard

      Roll over the FT ? .9 ITB

      1. Skogen89
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Im not sure Raphinia will start?

        1. Neo-Viper
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          Pretty positive that he will, judging by what Bielsa said last week about him.

          If he doesnt, Greenwood comes in for him.

    7. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Greetings! 2ft and 0.5itb. Current team:

      Martinez
      Azpi Rüdiger Digne Reguilon
      Salah Bruno Son Mount
      Kane Nacho

      Fabri; Saka, Konsa, Brewster

      Thinking about selling Saka for Harrison/Raphinha. How would that sound? I have too many potential double gameweek players who could blank the week after so selling poor form Arsenal players is tempting.

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Yes. Raph if deemed fit! Good fixtures between now and the end of season

      2. MightyGar
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Do it, Raphinha

    8. OLD Rafiki
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      choose one....
      1 Bam bam to Vardy
      2 Bam bam to Kane
      3 Targett to TAA
      4 veltman to Shaw.

      1. Neo-Viper
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        2 this week

      2. Ruudy Van
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 10 days ago

        For this week has to be B and likely captain

        1. Ruudy Van
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          Although I wouldn’t want to sell Leeds for the run in

    9. dshv
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 10 days ago

      Mendy (button)
      Taa shaw rudiger (coady, mitchell)
      Salah jota bruno son lingard
      Kane iheanacho (davis)

      1ft 0itb

      What change i can do?

    10. Party time
        3 years, 10 days ago

        Henry & Shearer first players inducted in PL hall of fame.

        Just how good was Titi in an Arsenal shirt. Used to be my idol back then. Those good Highbury days.

        Glad he is in the fkin hall of fame!

        1. Neo-Viper
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 10 days ago

          Mutual feeling! That O2 jersey!

          1. Party time
              3 years, 10 days ago

              Absolutely. Loved the 02/03, 04/05 & 05/06 kits( all of them, home & away looked beautiful)

              1. Neo-Viper
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Those were the years! Brilliant memories!

          2. Je suis le chat
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 10 days ago

            Read one of Rupert Everetts books (good writer), he was captivated with this beautiful French man opposite him on a train journey. Only after he disembarked did he realise he was the football star.

            1. Party time
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Interesting. Big fan of Rupert as well

          3. Sterling Archer
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 10 days ago

            with the pending DGW and BGW fixtures, saving an FT this week seems like a good shout!

          4. More Cowbell
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 10 days ago

            Hi all,

            I'm thinking this might have to be my bench boost week. Yay or nay?
            No subs made yet.

            Mendy (FUL)
            Rudinger (FUL), Fofana (sou), Coady (wba), Holding (new)
            Salah (man), JLing (bur), Bruno (LIV), Son (SHU)
            Kane (SHU), Nacho (sou)

            Forster (LEI), Vydra (WHM), Saka (new), Veltman (LEE)

            1. Party time
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Yeah. Get done with it buddy. It looks good to go

              • Party time
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  But Forster won’t start buddy

                  1. More Cowbell
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 10 days ago

                    Yeah good point, might need to ship him

              • LewanGOALski
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Bruno ➡ Son a no-brainer..?

                1. fusen
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  No brainer, son

                2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Selling Bruno can always bite - but Son is an absolutely incredible player

              • Ruudy Van
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                2FT 0.1ITB- any suggestions or just let the transfer burn??

                Vydra to davis for a bit more money down the line?

                Mendy
                Rudiger saiss holding TAA
                Bruno Salah lingard son
                Kane nacho
                Forster coady jota vydra

                1. More Cowbell
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Forster out for a guaranteed starter rather than let it burn probs

              • Sz21
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Any ideas here?
                Fernandes -> Son maybe or just save..

                Martinez.
                TAA, Rudiger, Dallas.
                Salah, Bruno, Lingard, Greenwood.
                Iheanacho, Kane, Watkins.
                Steer, Jota, Shaw, Burn.
                1ft, 0.3m ITB, No more chips.

                1. Ruudy Van
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Depends how brave you are on Bruno. We all should have done it weeks ago but that’s hindsight. Do you believe he perform for the run in is the call

              • fusen
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                I think I need around about 19 points from Iheanacho (C) and Maddison for me to win my H2H

                Seems unlikely :/

                1. MIGHTY JOE
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Its doable tho

                2. Neo-Viper
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Nacho Goal and Madds assist should do it for you

                3. Black Knights
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Nacho goal should get him at least 8x 2. Then you just need 3 from Maddo (CS point?).

              • MIGHTY JOE
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Trailing by 35 pts in ML. Could really use some help:
                Any suggestions to punts/solid transfers welcomed!

                Leno
                Shaw Rudiger Coady
                Son Bruno Salah Lingard
                Nacho Kane Wood

                Forster Jota Veltman Phillips

                2 FTs 1.8 ITB.

              • Coaly
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Is this worth a BB next week?

                Forster, Holding, Coady, Smith-Rowe

                1. Neo-Viper
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Nope. wait for the double

                2. Cojones of Destiny
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  prob not

              • Cojones of Destiny
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                appreciate help
                Bench one:
                a. Coady
                b. Dunk
                c. Konsa

                Play one:
                1. Jota
                2. BamBam

                1. pingissimus
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Bench Konsa

                  Villa have been in relegation form for a while and have failed to keep a cs against SHU Newcastle WBA and Fulham recently.

                  Play Jota imo but that's a tighter call. If Raph is back confirmed fit then Bambam could be the one.

                  1. Cojones of Destiny
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 10 days ago

                    thx mate

              • OLD Rafiki
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                B 2

              • Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                Watkins just keeps on chalking up returns doesn’t he - 20 returns in his last 30 games

                Kind of have to sell back over to Kane now for SHU, but Good old Lolly Trashkins has been solid as a rock to be fair

                Probably gets priced out of the equation next season though - 7.5-ish?

                1. Holmes
                  • 10 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Yep, he has Jimenez-like return, so 7.5 makes sense

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 10 days ago

                    If he had just managed to score that penalty back in GW10 how different things could have been - would really have kicked on up into the 160’s compared to where he is now on 145

                    Watkins with pens would have been ridiculous this season - and I’d dabble for 7.5 next season too if he had penalties

                    Unfortunately he’s never had the best record at pens

                    1. pingissimus
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 10 days ago

                      Comparatively few pens for Villa though

                      The other interesting ones here are Bamford and Vardy. Bambam would be threatening Kane for the golden boot had he had all those Vardy pens. By contrast Vardy would be down among the Bentekes and Maupays had he had the Bamford penalty count.

                      The price you pay for playing for Bielsa who hates players going down for pens.

                      1. Baines on Toast...
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 10 days ago

                        And Vardy is a master of winning pens for himself 😀

                      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 10 days ago

                        Think Villa have had 4 pens - so instead of the -2 Watkins has from pens you’re talking +16 + at least 4-6 baps if not more

                        He was basically that missed pen away from being right up there with BamBam on 165-170

                        Vardy’s game has evolved so much this year it’s incredible though - he’s just as much a creator as a goalscorer now with 26 returns in only 25 starts/3 subs and even finding time to go under the knife during the year

                        And perhaps counterintuitively he wasn’t even on the pitch to take 3 of Leicester’s pens this season - and also missed one vs Wolves - so could have so many more points

                        Bruno actually has most premier league pens scored this season with 8, Jorginho Salah, Vardy on 6 each, Kane, Wilson, Pereira on 4 each

                        1. pingissimus
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 10 days ago

                          He may of course have missed the penalty because he's not very good at penalties and by extension may have missed the other penalties too.

                          Doesn't work that 🙂

                          Smile at your idea of incredible Vardy evolution. Preferred the days when he had good Xg and managed to hit the target even when it wasn't a pen.

                          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 10 days ago

                            Smile at “He’s not very good at penalties” he’s actually scored 26 of his last last 31 🙂

                            I.e. a rate of about 84% (the average penalty success rate is around 75%) so if by “not very good” you mean “quite a bit above average” then yeah agree with that 😉

                            But of course he may have missed, that’s entirely possible - he just misses much less than average, which itself is rare enough so fair chance he wouldn’t have either 🙂

                            Also smile at the development in his game

                            - 2019/20 5 “non-fantasy” assists in 34 starts = 0.15 “non-fantasy assists” per start

                            - 2020/21 8 “non-fantasy” assists in 25 starts = 0.32 “non-fantasy” assists per start

                            More than 2x the “non-fantasy” creative output season over season? He’s having a party 😉

                            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                              • 14 Years
                              3 years, 10 days ago

                              Or maybe by “he” you mean Watkins - who I agree — has NOT been good at pens lol

                              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                • 14 Years
                                3 years, 10 days ago

                                And I assure you I fully understand that Watkins may not have scored all his pens - I don’t need to be told that doesn’t work - believe it or not I was being hypothetical

                                Smile 🙂

                              2. pingissimus
                                • 5 Years
                                3 years, 10 days ago

                                Oh definitely Watkins not JV - who is ace at pens

                                Interesting to note Watkins is relatively new to CF role - think he only took over when Maupay went to Brighton but don't quote me on that. Lots of room for growth imo.

                        2. pingissimus
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 10 days ago

                          Also worth noting that a good part of Vardy assists are fantasy assists and not real assists. There has definitely been growth in that part of his game but less than might appear if you take real life and FPL as the measure.

                          2019 7 assists (2 fantasy)
                          2020 13 assists (5 fantasy)

                          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 10 days ago

                            Also smile at the development in his game

                            - 2019/20 5 “non-fantasy” assists in 34 starts = 0.15 “non-fantasy assists” per start

                            - 2020/21 8 “non-fantasy” assists in 25 starts = 0.32 “non-fantasy” assists per start

                            More than 2x the “non-fantasy” creative output season over season? He’s having a party

                            1. pingissimus
                              • 5 Years
                              3 years, 10 days ago

                              This is my point about how penalty dependent he has become for goals. You might detect a pattern here.

                              2018 games 20-38 12 goals (1 pen) net 11 open play
                              2019 games 1-19 17 goals (3 pens) net 14 open play

                              2019 games 20-38 6 goals (I pen). net 5 open play
                              2020 games 1-19 11 goals (6 pens) net 5 open play
                              2020 games 20-33 2 goals

                              Marginal regression? Personally I prefer goals to assists. You obviously have other ideas. Me I like 4 points and the baps forwards get for goals. Old-fashioned that way 🙂

                              Hope he does well - has always been a favourite. No expectations really.

                              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                • 14 Years
                                3 years, 10 days ago

                                I just can’t be at all critical of him for getting 28 returns in 25 starts this season, it just feels like trying to look the gift hire in the mouth (or kick its teeth out even lol)

                                Penalties, fantasy assists, goals, whatever they are - 28 in 25 is utterly phenomenal whichever way you slice/(cherry-pick) it 😉

                                Just hoping with the good fixture run he keeps doing exactly what he’s been doing

                                It’s just unfortunate he’s had all the bad luck this season (wasn’t on the pitch for the 3 extra penalties, missed the pen at Wolves, having to miss the games from the surgery and recovery, missed the 3 big chances vs Sheffield) reckon he could easily be on +20-25 points to where he is and then there’s even more hype than what has just sprung up in the last week or two

                                I was advocating him before SHU & people were saying they wouldn’t sign him for 6.0 lol - how quickly things change in both directions 🙂

                                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                  • 14 Years
                                  3 years, 10 days ago

                                  *26 returns!!!

                2. Flair
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  Lacks talent mate 😉

                  Doubt he'll be on our radar much next season, agreed. 7.5 makes sense

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 10 days ago

                    That narrative was always so comical - poor Lee 🙂

                3. Indpush
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 10 days ago

                  May still be worth it if Grealish stays healthy?

                  1. pingissimus
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 10 days ago

                    Grealish makes a difference but worth remembering this is Watkins first season in the PL, he's young and he's also relatively new to the CF role. Loads of room for improvement

              • OLD Rafiki
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 10 days ago

                would advise anyone to get Liverpool and United diff, the game would probably end 0-0.