Opinion

Should I buy Ivan Toney in FPL? A Brentford fan’s perspective

Ivan Toney (£6.5m) is now the highest-owned forward in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), sitting in 30% of pre-Gameweek 1 squads at the time of writing.

But is the hype surrounding the 31-goal striker justified?

Having previously taken a more general, statistical overview of Brentford’s midfielders and forwards in our Promoted series, we wanted a fan’s perspective on the former Newcastle United and Peterborough United hitman.

We asked Fantasy Football Scout user and Brentford fan Jamie (aka Belisha Beacon) a few questions on what FPL managers can expect in 2021/22.

What is Toney’s playing style – could you liken him to any other forward in terms of physicality/pace/hold-up play etc?

“His speciality is finding the tiniest bit of space away from his marker and finishing first time (something that should hopefully bode well in the top flight, with chances likely to be at more of a premium), as well as being a taker of a string of very cool penalties.

“He’s a real team leader and surely a future captain. He is also invaluable when it comes to helping out in defence at set pieces; he certainly prevented a few goals each season for us and for Peterborough, which is not something you can say for every number 9! 

“A striker talisman with the physical presence to win challenges at both ends… the top-knot Drogba?!”

Does he have any weaknesses to his game?

“There’s not much to report here on the evidence of last season. He picks up a few yellows for dissent; he gets fouled a lot but needs to control his temper in tough situations.

“He’s also a player who can seem to drift off the radar for spells in games but he has the patience to keep working for the team.”

Having seen the likes of Bamford, Mitrovic, Pukki etc in the last few years, where does he stand in the high-scoring pantheon of recent Championship strikers? Is 31 goals a fair reflection?

Bamford, Bale, Aguero and Forster on the bench for Gameweek 38 matches

“I’m not an expert on the strengths of all the other players you’ve mentioned but the goal record speaks for itself.

“We lost a lot of creativity last season with the departures of Ollie Watkins and Said Benrahma, so it said a lot for him to step into our team and break the goalscoring marks set by Neal Maupay and Watkins in the two prior years.

“I suppose you have to separate the penalties (11 out of 31) without ignoring them, as I doubt we can win that many in the Premier League.”

Do you have any concerns that Brentford won’t create enough chances for him in the top flight?

“That is the number one question for the club this summer, of course. We’ll have to get used to having less of the ball than we had in many games in the Championship.

“I may regret this prediction but I think some Premier League defences sit back and afford a little more space to opponents to play a pass than some of the more bruising Championship sides, who we often struggled against in the past. And we acquitted ourselves well in several cup matches against Premier League teams last season (beating Fulham, Southampton and Newcastle to nil and West Bromwich Albion on penalties, scoring eight goals in the process), so I’m hopeful that we’ll make a decent number of chances in the majority of games. There’ll be some hard days, though, for sure!”

It’s a bit of an impossible question but what do you think is a realistic target for him, goals and assists wise, in 2021/22?

“If we’re going to not only survive but try to excel amongst the bottom half teams this season, which I think we will, we’ll be aiming for 40-50 goals as a team.

“I think Toney will want to surpass what our past players Andre Gray, Maupay and even Watkins managed in their first seasons in the Premier League and aim to score about 15, including a few penalties, and maybe supply eight assists. It might sound optimistic but given his 50%+ goal involvement last year, it’s not too outrageous.”

Will you be starting with him in Gameweek 1 in FPL?

“Yes. £6.5m is not cheap for a promoted team striker, but I am confident he’ll look like a bargain when in form and it may only take one goal against Arsenal for people to be clamouring to sign him for the following weeks.”

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  1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Got the wobbles on Jota now

    1. In FPHell
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Why?

    2. Amartey Partey
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Same. He will probably start GW1 and then be taken off around 60-70mins.

  2. Zero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Tsim in every team, here we go

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Nailed

  3. Pep's Money Laundry
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Kostas & penandes it is then, my final dilemma is solved

  4. balint84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Who is Tsimiskas where is Konate?

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Left back ; CB

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      None of us have heard of him. Best to just ignore.

  5. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    This is mad. Forget Pep roulette!

    Which 3 Pool to pick now????

    Crap shoot!

    1. Agger
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Trent, Salah, the Turkish Roberto Carlos

      1. Agger
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Greek

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Is he not from Kazakhstan

        Is niiiiiice

      3. Stupendous
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Got it!

  6. Catastrophe
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Tsimikassist

  7. Team Bobcat
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Is Mosie kean worth a punt. DCL has a toe problem. Not the best of ways to start the new season.. injured

    1. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      probably not

    2. Avery
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I don’t think he is added in the game?

  8. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    If you don't have Tsimikas in your GW1 starting 11, you're a casual.

    1. Stamford B
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Who?

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      And smell

  9. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Tsimkas, TAA, Shaw for GW1 it is then

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Add AWB and we have a party

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Bruno & big Mason-G

    2. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Same 3

  10. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    It's such a shame he got that assist tonight.

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Shame that milner will start over him that is

        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          😛

        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Step forward Ben White from first sub 🙂

      • Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        His ownership will skyrocket, already at 3.7%.

        1. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Invested at 1.3%, looking forward to his price rise tonight...

      • SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Still not getting him, deadest on my trio being Trent, Jota & Salah

        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          That would not be your 3 if you watched liverpools tactics and positions in preseason

          Its tsip, Jota , Mane here

          1. In FPHell
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Pre-season is a famously accurate predictor of GW1 points of course

            1. FPL_trail_runner
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              nothing to do with points

              Just looking at positions to see if Klopp has changed things

              Mane and Jota rotating CF
              Salah on the right wing very wide

              TAA also not overlapping as fullback , playing in possession in midfield ( with Salah outside him)

              Last year i acted too late when it was obvious TAA was not bombing forward with Henderson having a different role

          2. SEXY SON
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            I only pay attention to pre season for injuries and sometimes how the promoted teams lineup, that’s about it

        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Same, can't look past that

          • Rainer
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Won't find any complaints here for them 3, Jota could be magic vs Norwich & Burnley.

          • Bushwhacker
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Till Firmino starts

            1. SEXY SON
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Yup then Gundogan/Greenwood or downgrade to Raph etc

      • Stupendous
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        A Mahrez and ESR

        Or

        B Gundo and Raph?

        1. MARVELLUS
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          B

          1. Stupendous
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Ta

      • bradplum
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Wondered if there was any love for 4-5-1?

        Batman foster
        Tierney TAA Shaw Maguire 4.0
        Salah Fernandes Son Greenwood Jota
        Toney 4.5 4.5

        Obviously easy to down son to Barnes/Rafinha and upgrade an attacker but if son worth it over Antonio or Ings?

        Cheers all

        1. MARVELLUS
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Would be great if it works out, go for it and be different. I much prefer guaranteed starters over rotation risks ao will have Ings Bamford instead of Jota Greenwood

          1. bradplum
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers, was expecting abuse!

      • tissae
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        G2G?

        Sanchez
        TAA Coufal Shaw
        Salah Bruno Jota Raphinha
        Toney Ings Antonio

        Foster Ayling Amartey Brownhill

        1. MARVELLUS
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Yes, not far off mine. Gone for Bachmann but coin flip really.

        2. Amartey Partey
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Needs Tsimi

          1. tissae
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Got 3 Liverpool already. Jota to Barnes then?

            1. Amartey Partey
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Same decision I'm making. I already have Greenwood for the same price though, but Barnes, Gundo, and Benrahma are all good options for 7.5M and under too. Jota could still haul GW1 though, if he gets enough minutes.

      • MARVELLUS
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Think my final decision for my team is this:

        A) TAA, Brownhill, Bamford (will have Tsi)
        B) Cresswell, Son, 4.5m fwd?

        Currently on A....

      • Feed tha Sheep
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        No love for city or Chelsea defence to start? Best two defences and I know Chelsea have hard fixtures but last season keep clean sheets in tougher games. Is it that we expect stones/chilwell/ James etc not to start first week?

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          TAA, Shaw & Timmay! is the new mandatory GW1 defence

        2. Amartey Partey
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Tuchel Defence Roullette

          1. FPL_trail_runner
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Rudiger plays every game

            1. Amartey Partey
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Not sure if people will be running to put him in their sides though.

      • Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Martinez
        TAA / Shaw / Coufal / Tsimikas
        Salah / Fernandes / Barnes / Benrahma
        Ings / Antonio

        Foster // Toney / White / Brownhill

        - Toney starts over Coufal/White GW2
        - Toney starts over Tsimikas GW3(?)
        - Alternatively Sanchez over Martinez & Tony > Wilson in GW3

        1. Weeb Kakashi
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          I wouldn't bench Toney in the first 5. Feels so wrong. Benching a tailsman of any team feels wrong to me.

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Probably no point in having Tsimikas if that's the point to be honest.

            No benefit having him & blocks out a move for Jota should I fancy it.

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Nice team. Smart differentials. Would play Toney every game though. You don't rotate forwards.

        3. Belisha Beacon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah i wouldn't be benching a 6.5 forward if only because of the penalties, you'll kick yourself if he gets a penalty in a game you weren't expecting i.e. the Arsenal game.

      • Weeb Kakashi
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Pick one

        A Son Benrahma
        B Wilson Havertz (Havertz> Son GW3)

      • n-doggg
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Couple of punty defenders but what are your thoughts lovely people?

        Sanchez, 4.0
        TAA, shaw, ayling, amertay, tsimkas
        Salah, Bruno, mahrez, raphinia, Barnes
        Ings, Toney, 4.5

      • Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Ox is back

      • Bielsa's Bucket
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Pool need to be careful here - gonna end up with another bloody injury!

      • el polako
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Really curious if Toney will be like Bamford or more like Pukki\Mitrovic.
        His ownership suggest that sticking or twisting early will seriously impact first quarter performance.

        1. Bielsa's Bucket
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          47 starts, 1 sub, 33 goals and 10 assists. You think and hope so. I do anyway! Even if he scores half that amount I'd be happy.

      • Athletico Underachieving
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Might go full bandwagon and bench Raph to play Tsim in a 4-4-2

        Sanchez
        TAA, Cash, Shaw, Tsim
        Salah, Bruno, Barnes, Benrahma
        Ings, Antonio

        Foster, Raph, White, Obafemi

        1. Cheeto__Bandito
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          not sold on Barnes.

      • Cheeto__Bandito
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Think Bamford is being overlooked, stats last season up with elite strikers and fixtures tough for defence but all easily can be scored against. Also been Leeds best player in pre-season so that form was not temporary.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Nailed into my GW1 team - far too many ways to score points, penalties on top of all his goal threat & assist potential

      • JONALDINHO
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thoughts?

        Sanchez
        Trent • Coufal • Tsimiskas
        Salah • Bruno • Mahrez • Barnes • Raphinha
        Ings • Antonio
        (Steele / Amartey / Omobamidele / Obafemi)

        1. n-doggg
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Three 4.0 defenders a little punchy?

      • Legohair
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        RMT?!?

        Sanchez
        TAA-Shaw-Tierney-Tsimikas
        Salah(c)-Bruno-Pepe-Buendia
        Ings-Antonio

        Foster, Raphinha,White,Obafemi

      • Andy1
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I'm set with 12 of my players now

        Sanchez foster
        Taa Shaw white ayling amartey
        Salah fernandes Barnes X x
        Ings Antonio x

        Which is the best option

        A. Jota, raphinha, obafemi
        B. Gilmour, raphinha, Toney (or other upto 7.5 striker
        C. Gilmour, benrahma, bamford

      • el polako
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Messi Mbappe Neymar.

        Not too shabby forward line.

      • flippetyflop
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        About to start a draft fantasy league - based on the below it's better to prioritise midfielders and forwards right?

        Any other main considerations?

        There's a smaller points gap between the top 10 defenders so I should prioritise midfield and strikers.
        I.E Robbo (highest scoring defender) finished on 142 whereas Stones in (10th place) finished on 117

        Top 10 defenders.
        Robertson 142 - Trent 134 - AWB - 133 - Cresswell 132 - Dias 130 Targett 129 Chilwell 128 Mings 120 Cancel 120 Stones 117

        25 points gap between 1st and 10th.

        Top 10 midfielders

        Salah 210 Bruno 208 Son 202 Mane 162 Dallas 156 Harrison 145 Sterling 144 JWP 139 Gundo 135 Bowen 133

        77 point gap between 1st and 10th

        Top 10 Forwards -

        Kane 202 Bamford 168 Vardy 164 Watkins 150 DCL 144 Rash 142 Firmino 126 Wood 122 Adams 121 Werner 121

        81 point gap

      • LiamK17
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Who do you think is the best choice?

        Benhrama
        Cancelo
        Digne + 0.5m
        Chilwell

        1. OPTA FPL
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Chillwell

      • Mossi98
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Toughts?

        Sanchez, (4.0 keeper)

        TAA, Shaw, Digne, Tsimikas, (Ayling)

        Bruno, Salah, Havertz, Raphinha, (Brownhill)

        Ings, Antonio, (Obafemi)

        0.5 ITB to move Havertz to mahrez in either gw2 or gw3