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FPL promoted teams: What is Nottm Forest’s clean sheet potential?

Having already provided the lowdown on Steve Cooper, our series on the newly-promoted Premier League sides continues with this look at Nottingham Forest’s defence.

In this article, we will assess the Championship play-off winners’ overall clean sheet chances and then look at some of the key Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players in their backline.

Our third and final piece will discuss Forest’s midfielders and forwards.

To help us with our research, we spoke to Fantasy Football Scout’s founding father and Forest supporter, Mark Sutherns, to provide a fan’s view.

You can find everything you need to know about fellow new boys Fulham and Bournemouth here.

The stats in this piece are taken from FotMob and WhoScored.


WHAT IS FOREST’S CLEAN SHEET POTENTIAL?

Nottingham Forest's defence assessed ahead of FPL return in 2022/23

Forest had the second-best defensive record in the Championship last season, conceding 40 goals in 46 matches, only trailing Bournemouth (39).

They kept 17 clean sheets, a reasonable return but some way short of the Cherries’ league-leading total of 21.

PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total462311127340+338017
Home2313464322+21439
Away2310763018+12378

However, it’s worth noting that at the time of Cooper’s appointment in September, Forest had made their worst start to a season for 108 years, claiming only a single point from their first seven Championship games under Chris Hughton, a period that saw them concede 12 goals.

When he was first appointed, Cooper was flexible in his approach, switching from a back four and a central-defensive trio. But this year (see below), it has largely been a back three all the way, which has seen Forest tighten up significantly and concede only five goals at the City Ground in 2022.

PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total2114434112+294611
Home10910295+24286
Away11533127+5185

“Once Cooper arrived and certainly in 2022, Forest were the best defensive side in the Championship. The trio of Worrall, McKenna and Steve Cook earned the collective nickname of “The Wall” to emphasise just how effective they were at keeping teams at bay. At the City Ground in particular, Forest conceded just five goals in 2022 and were known for their ability to limit teams to half chances.” – Mark Sutherns

The underlying stats don’t really do Forest justice, given that they are skewed due to their poor start under Hughton, but we’ll include them below for reference.

DEFENSIVE STATS 2021/22
TotalRank v other Championship clubs
Goals conceded402nd
Clean sheets176th=
Shots conceded per game10.98th=
xGC56.38th=

THE PLAYERS

APPS, GOALS AND ASSISTS (INC PLAY-OFFS)

 

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  1. TheBiffas
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Anyone for a threemium?

    Raya
    TAA, Chilwell, Trippier, Castagne
    Salah, Diaz, Martinelli, Wissa
    Kane, Haaland

    1. Dušan Citizen
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      My threemium is

      Meslier
      TAA Cash Trippier Totti Williams
      Salah Son Coutinho Wissa Pereira
      Haaland Jesus Gayle

      1. TheBiffas
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Looks good. Who is totti tho? Haven't seen him in any drafts

        1. Dušan Citizen
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 10 months ago

          4.0 Wolves def, hidden gem. Started some games at the end of the season and looked very good. Saiss left them, Boly seems out of favour, so Totti could be nailed.

    2. Ser Davos
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      The only thing I'm set on with the 3mium is Son over Kane

      1. TheBiffas
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        I went for Kane because I want to play 442 as the cheap midfield options seem to me much better than the cheap forwards

        1. Ser Davos
          • 8 Years
          1 year, 10 months ago

          See I probably like Brennan the best of the 6ish attackers, but yeah, I agree. We're more likely to see a Bowen/Maddison emerge (though can't see it now) in the mids then we probably the FWDs. Who could possibly become the new Bamford/Ings?

    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Yep here is mine

      Mendy (4.0)
      TAA Cancelo Chilwell Tomiyasu (N Williams)
      Salah Martinelli Andreas Son (Chukwuemeka)
      Haaland Johnson (Greenwood)

    4. I Must Break You
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      I'm not a fan of threemium. Premium players (10M+) are only worth their price when they're being captained. The more you have on your roster, the more you are NOT captaining on any given game week.
      Someone on here has been ranting about their fourmium plan.... Yikes. They'll soon discover how badly that affects their overall Pts per total $ spent ratio over the long term. (In the short term of course if all 4 players are hauling it could work, but statistically that's not very likely. There's a reason parlay bets are called "teasers".... They're generally losers long term.)
      But of course good luck if this (threemium) is the way you end up going. We're all just experimenting with theories so who's to say who's right or wrong...

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        In a normal season I would tend to agree. However, with the unlimited transfers during WC, plus a WC to use before then, I feel the risk is somewhat mitigated by an early WC if it goes pear shaped. It is for a short period on time.

  2. TheBiffas
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Castagne or Justin people?

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Castagne competing with Pereira so I think Justin but preseason will hopefully give us a better indication

      1. TheBiffas
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Oh right, forgot about pereira. Justin it is then

        1. TheBiffas
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 10 months ago

          Hang on isnt is pereira competing with justin for rb?

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      That old chestnut.

  3. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Food for thought. Goodnight 🙂

    Raya
    TAA Gabriel 4.0
    Salah Diaz Mount Kulu Martinelli
    Haaland Jesus

    Balcombe | Andreas, 4.0, 4.0

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Indigestion.

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Greenwood. Not Andreas.

      Variation:

      Raya
      TAA Trippier 4.0
      Salah Diaz Odegaard Martinelli
      Haaland Jesus Vardy

      Balcombe | Andreas, 4.0, 4.0

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Could always go cheap right across the back

        Raya Dennis
        Ait Nouri Tomiyasu Castagne Mings N Williams
        Salah LDiaz Saka Mount/Bowen Andreas
        Haaland Kane Greenwood

    3. Spoox777
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Too weak in DEF for me. I think you'll lose too many points from CHE + MCI clean sheets/assists

  4. Spoox777
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    I really want subs who are going to play more often than not, but don't want too much money sitting on the bench. If i do this i'm struggling to afford Salah. Am i mad going without Salah or will other strong players in my team be able to make up the difference?

    Ramsdale? / Leno?
    TAA / Cancelo / James / Perisic / Trippier?
    Diaz / Kulu / Coutinho? / Bruno G? / Neto?
    Haaland / Jesus / Mateta

    ...just a rough draft. Players with a ? next to their name i'm not sure about yet
    Ramsdale & Leno... ARS have decent fixtures.

    Thank you.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      I'd really like to see you with Salah if possible. Will save tears and scrambling later on. Be kind to yourself.

      1. Spoox777
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Thanks for reply...
        I'll probably go with Salah once we all find some nailed(ish) 4.5m players.

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      I'd go Salah and have a weaker bench

    3. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Why not just go Andreas Pereira and Neco Williams on your bench? Both should play lots, and they're min cost.

  5. tom66
    • 11 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Current draft - plenty of tinkering ahead

    Raya
    TAA - Cancelo - Trippier
    Coutinho - Salah - Bruno G - Mount - Andreas
    Kane - Jesus
    Subs: Sanchez - White - Mings - Greenwood
    (Kane to Haaland for GW2)

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Andreas is interesting. Could be a great enabler in the 11.

      Don’t like Mings, but if you’re banking on Villa cleansheets he’s the only route.

      Prefer Tomiyasu over White, also.

      Overall great

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Mings is a 2021/22 King of the Gameweek and an outstanding selection.

      1. Sheffield Wednesday
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Shhh - I'm hoping he gets overlooked among the 4.5M defenders

        1. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 3 Years
          1 year, 10 months ago

          What I meant to say is look over here at these shiny £4.5M Arsenal defenders - sure they never get attacking returns and couldn't keep CS in 2022 - but just look at their fixtures!

          1. The Knights Template
            • 10 Years
            1 year, 10 months ago

            Those crappy Arsenal defenders are an excellent choice!

  6. Emre Can Pie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    A. Grealish and Perisic or
    B. Kulu and Justin.

    Many thanks!

    1. gart888
      • 9 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Perisic and another mid.

      1. Emre Can Pie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Thank you.

    2. weaver
      • 13 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      B

      1. Emre Can Pie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Thanks!

  7. lugs
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    looks like the Sky game is launching later today, with a rule change 50 transfers up from 40, but only 1 overhaul instead of 2, i think i prefer that, also someone in the comments of this tweet mentioned Salah, Son etc have moved back to being midfielders, that's much better if true as its silly having all of the best players fighting for 3 forward positions like last season

    https://twitter.com/SkyFantasyFooty/status/1544712783102631939?cxt=HHwWhoCzzfGF9u8qAAAA

  8. ilikewud
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    A) Diaz, James, Haaland +1itb

    B) Foden, Robertson, Kane

    1. Dutchy
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      A

    2. klopptimusprime
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      A with Kane also good

  9. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Laporte or Dias?

    1. Dutchy
      • 5 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Flip a coin, I like Laporte, slightly higher goal threat if that even comes into play

    2. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Dias. He's the one they won't rotate

  10. Worsle90
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Any thoughts on this?

    Sanchez
    TAA, James, Walker, Tomiyasu
    Salah, Fernandes, Diaz, Neto
    Haaland, Mitrovic

    Steele, Justin, Kovacic, Greenwood

    1. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Nice team, forget Kovacic and keep a handy £0.5m itb.

  11. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    The Boys is the best show on tv right now (along with Better Call Saul)

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      James Tarkowski is Soldier Boy!

      1. Scratch
        • 14 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Mmm I don't hate it but it's a stretch

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          1 year, 10 months ago

          Rapture is his favourite karoke song!

    2. Don Van Vliet
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Awful, diluted fantasy nonsense.

    3. stamboy
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Thanks for the tip. I will check it out.

  12. Stamford B
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    No Haaland on the watchlist is a surprise. I can see him doing well.

    1. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      I've heard he's not bad at kicking the football

      1. Stamford B
        • 2 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        I’d put him above Jimenez but probably not as high as Toney who has already proven to be a success in the Premier league so that’s only fair.

      2. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Certainly better than his rapping.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      No players new to the PL have been added yet. I'm sure it will be updated in due course.

  13. Dutchy
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Current Draft, gone away from the template. Is it stable enough for Neto and Geldhart to rotate?

    Meslier
    Trent Cancelo Tripper
    Salah Mahrez Coutinho Martinelli Neto
    Kane Toney

    4.0 Tomiyasu Geldhart Vestegaard

    1. Stamford B
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Gelhardt probably won’t feature much and will drop in value early doors I’d wager.

      1. Dutchy
        • 5 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Ah okay, just see him as a really good talent in the future, guess bamford is back

    2. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      No. Gelhardt won't normally start he'll be a super-sub type.

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      No, but Neto rotates well with Tomiyasu.

      1. Sheffield Wednesday
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        What a strange season this will be.

  14. nanxun
    • 2 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Assuming that both get their transfers, which would you prefer for a 4.0 def slot?

    A. Neco Williams
    B. Joe Rodon

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      A Williams will be a nailed starter. Rodon might never start.

    2. Stamford B
      • 2 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      B. You can always be entertained by his podcasts when he fails to score fpl points.

    3. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Don't really see the value in picking a £4m defender this year when only £0.5m extra gets you into an actual start-able defensive option from Newcastle, Arsenal, Villa, United or Wolves

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        It's a false economy unless you're a 3-4-3 of 4-at-the-back fundamentalist.

  15. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Neto or Erickson?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      The one you can afford. They won't be the same price.

  16. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Can afford either…whobus the better choice points wise?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Eriksen isn't in the game yet.

  17. Dutchy
    • 5 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Wonder what draft the king sutherns has put together early on

  18. The Knights Template
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    It's Neco, not Neto!

  19. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Thanks Andy. Looks like he has an agreement with MU. Maybe his price will go up? Think he may be a better pick than Neto once he has signed the contract.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      His price is sure to go up. Could be 6.5 or 7.0 -- totally different price bracket to Neto. Eriksen will surely outscore Neto - which one you go for depends on the structure of your squad.

  20. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Why is it no matter how harsh or soft the pricing is I always think my team would be "just right" if I had £3m extra

  21. In Klopp I Trust
    • 4 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    First draft…thoughts?
    GK: Raya
    DEF: TAA, Cancelo, Chilwell, VVD, Tomiyasu
    MID: Salah, Madison, Bruno G
    FWD: Haaland, Jesus

    Bench: Gazzaniga, Andreas, Chukwuemeka, Greenwood

    1. svgcr
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Don’t like VVD at that price if you’re only hoping for CS. Might at as well get Matip, or find .5 more for Robertson.

  22. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Sinisterra 5.5m PLEASE @OfficialFPL

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      No chance I suspect

  23. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Is Mendy really worth that .5 over Raya/Sanchez? Is that D really good with Rudiger gone?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      We simply don't know. I'd expect Chelsea to buy 2 top centre backs and they'll probably be fine.

  24. R.C
    • 6 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Bored now

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Yeah. My draft is settled - I flim-flam a bit over choosing Chilwell or James, but that's about it. Nothing more to discuss.

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Have you considered doing 50 burpees?

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        I have considered 50 burps, thats about it.

  25. BS03
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    hi guys any thoughts on this 5-4-1? (0.5itb):

    ramsdale
    trent - perisic - cancelo - trippier - chilwell
    salah - neto - saka - kulu
    haaland

    4.0/4.5/4.5/4.5

    am undecided on 5.0m keeper (either ramsdale/mendy)
    kept 0.5itb for kulu -> bowen for gw2 but not sure if i should book in a transfer this early

  26. DavvaMC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on the below? Trying to squeeze in 3, 8M midfielders, but means no Cancelo.

    Raya

    TAA / Laporte / Chilwell / Tierney / Trippier (Cash)

    Salah / Diaz / Saka / Foden

    Kane

    Balcombe | Pereira | Archer | Greenwood

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Looks excellent. I think Laporte is a decent deputy for Cancelo, and Kane is a guaranteed starter if not injured, so your 1 up top is safe.

      1. DavvaMC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        Cheers, Trippier or Cash, was thinking Cash to start with as fixtures seem better early on?

  27. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on the 9th draft?

    mendy
    taa cancelo james cash
    salah kulu jwp neto
    haaland jesus

    steele greenwood williams murphy

    1. el polako
      • 6 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      No, keep drafting.

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        1 year, 10 months ago

        10th?

        raya
        robbo cancelo james justin
        salah son martinelli bruno g neto
        haaland

        balcombe williams greenwood 4.5

  28. yousunkmybattleship
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    All done can now put feet up for next four weeks

    Raya Balcombe
    TAA Cancelo Trippier Tomiyaso N.Williams
    Salah Mount Foden Bruno G Colback
    Kane Jesus Greenwood

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Solid. Good luck not fiddling and making it worse over the next month!

  29. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    Do you prefer Raya or Sanchez?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Coin toss

    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      Meslier

  30. WVA
    • 7 Years
    1 year, 10 months ago

    A. Meslier Perisic James Bruno G
    B. Mendy Doherty Tomiyasu Diaz

    1. SpaceCadet
      • 10 Years
      1 year, 10 months ago

      B