Scout Notes

Scout Scribbles – Sterling Back on the Goal Trail

Raheem Sterling scores twice, whilst Lazar Markovic opens his account for Liverpool in a 3-1 cup win at Bournemouth. Harry Kane and Nacer Chadli are amongst the goals as Spurs hammer Newcastle at the Lane, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain could be set for a quick return from injury this weekend, whilst Baggies skipper Chris Burnt could also be in contention.

LIVERPOOL FIND THEIR FORM

Brendan Rodgers rolled out a 3-4-3 set-up once again as Liverpool overcame Bournemouth 3-1 in their Capital One Cup quarter final tie last night. Fielded in the central role up front for the second successive outing, Raheem Sterling ended his goal drought with a brace, whilst Lazar Markovic also got on the scoresheet after being handed a start as a left wing-back.

The Scout Says: Could last night’s double strike hint at a return to form for Sterling? The youngster is without a league goal since way back in Gameweek 5, but a move to a centre-forward berth in light of Liverpool’s current woes up front could herald a reprise in the 8.3-priced midfielder’s prospects. With Mario Balotelli missing out again last night due to a groin problem and Rickie Lambert seemingly out of favour, Sterling could be set to continue in the advanced role when his side meet Arsenal this weekend, and is certainly one to monitor. Markovic could also blink on a few radars if he can hold off competition for the left wing-back berth, whilst the 6.0-valued Jordan Henderson seems to be adapting well to the role on the opposite flank after notching an assist last night. As the Reds head into a decent run of fixtures, Rodgers’ back-three suggests Kolo Toure and Martin Skrtel are the safest options in defence – Dejan Lovren also started last night but was replaced by Mamadou Sakho after sustaining a groin injury.

 

SPURS TURN ON THE STYLE AGAINST MAGPIES

Tottenham swept aside Newcastle 4-0 in their cup clash at White Hart Lane last night. Nahil Bentaleb capitalised on a goalkeeping mistake to open the scoring before three second half goals, courtesy of Nacer Chadli, Harry Kane and substitute Roberto Soldado, put the match to bed.

The Scout Says: With Burnley and Leicester up next in the league for Mauricio Pochettino’s outfit, a number of their assets are begging for investment right now, and last night’s dominant display will only further their case. Kane has now notched in back-to-back matches in all competitions, and, at 5.1, continues to look outstanding value. His fellow forward Soldado will be optimistic of earning a start against Burnley on Saturday after scoring from the bench, even in spite of Emmanuel Adebayor’s return to action following compassionate leave. Christian Eriksen, meanwhile, furthered his appeal after earning assists for three of Spurs’ four goals against the Magpies, and while his 90-minute outing may have some fearing he could be due for a rest at the weekend, he seems far too important for Pochettino to bench. After a run of sub appearances, Chadli was handed a chance to impress and the Belgian’s strike may well be set to reignite his first-team prospects after falling out of favour in recent weeks.

 

NEWCASTLE CRUMBLE IN CUP ROUT

With Daryl Janmaat serving his one-match suspension and Papiss Cisse missing out through illness, Newcastle were unable to click into gear at either end of the field against Spurs, and conceded four times for a second consecutive display.

The Scout Says: The defensive solidity evidenced throughout November seems a distant memory for the Magpies. Even with the likes of defensive regulars Fabricio Coloccini, Massadio Haidara and Paul Dummett in the starting line-up, yet another poor rearguard display cost them dearly last night and, as the schedule starts to stiffen, many may move away from their backline. Alan Pardew’s injury situation between the posts heightened last night after third-choice keeper Jak Alnwick sustained a shoulder problem – the Magpies boss may have to field 17-year-old Freddie Woodman in goal this weekend but is set to discuss the situation with the Premier League. Further up the field, the Tynesiders’ reliance on Cisse’s goalscoring is there for all to see – the Senegal striker’s exploits aside, his team-mates have found the net just once in their last five matches in all competitions and Pardew will be desperate for him to recover in time for this weekend’s Tyne-Wear derby clash with Sunderland.

 

CHAMBERLAIN EXPECTED TO RECOVER

Reports suggest that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is likely to be fit for Arsenal’s trip to Liverpool this weekend, despite the midfielder having previously been labelled a major doubt due to the groin injury sustained against Newcastle last time out.

The Scout Says: Yesterday’s news will hand Arsene Wenger a considerable boost, bearing in mind the likes of Mikel Arteta, Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere are also out injured. Oxlade-Chamberlain will now be expected to continue in the double-pivot alongside Mathieu Flamini, where he was utilised against the Magpies, hence lessening the likelihood of rotation further up the field. Alexis Sanchez and Danny Welbeck’s spots on the flanks look guaranteed, then, whilst Santi Cazorla should continue in the central attacking midfield role; the 8.1-priced Spaniard has found the back of the net three times in his last two appearances and looks a superb in-form differential right now.

 

BRUNT IN CONTENTION FOR WEEKEND RETURN

West Brom skipper Chris Brunt could be back for the Baggies’ clash with QPR after missing his side’s last two league fixtures.

The Scout Says: Brunt’s return looks set to place further question marks over the pitch time of Saido Berahino, with the young striker having been dropped to the bench in the Baggies last two. The England Under-21 forward hasn’t been fielded up front since Gameweek 14, and has failed to register returns since late October, yet still boasts an ownership of 16%. Alan Irvine opted for Silvestre Varela and Stephen Sessegnon on the flanks and Brown Ideye up front last time out and Brunt’s return may well be set to leave Berahino even further down the pecking order after an ineffectual run of displays.

 

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  1. Black Knights
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    With the Mirallas news, and Hutton's suspension, this is what I have left:

    Guzan

    Terry, Baines, Naylor

    Hazard, Siggy, Downing, Yaya

    Giroud, Austin, Costa

    with just Chambers for back up.

    I can't see more than one player missing out there? Maybe Terry but Zouma's injury has taken that off the table. No need for another transfer to allow for rotation?

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Good to go

      1. Black Knights
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate. That's what I thought. Mirallas being injured solved my benching dilemma, but then I started panicking. Unnecessarily it seems!

        1. Whazza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Yup, no need to worry 🙂

  2. Toonzie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Guzan
    Baines - Clyne - Dummett
    Alexis - Yaya - Haz - Downing
    Costa - Bony - Austin

    Bench: Given, Yun, Boyd, Naylor

    1FT, 0.8m in the bank.

    Any Suggestions??

    1. IamNotaMan.IamCantona
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Looks G2G save your FT imo

    2. nibby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Clyne > Zabaleta

      1. nibby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Who r u gonna cap?

  3. IamNotaMan.IamCantona
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Who will score the most over the next 3 GW's
    Nasri (CRY, WBA, BUR)
    Eriksen (BUR, LEI, MAU)

    1. Albert Cole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Erik.

    2. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      eriksen

  4. The Handsome Hunk
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    pick 3 to play

    chambers, yun, jagielka, azpi

  5. MITRO'S ON FIRE
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on which of these defenders will be the best pick for the next few gameweeks?

    MCI - Clichy 5.6 (already own Zab)
    TOT - Davies 4.4
    HUL - Chester 4.4
    QPR - Yun 3.9

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      davies

    2. Le Limpar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Clichy

  6. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Captain's round up?

    RVP(C) here. 😎

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      😯

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Same.

    3. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Sakho currently

    4. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      the big weathered looking mishaven front guy for chelski for me

      monday night football, yo

    5. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      sanchez

    6. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Austin.

    7. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Kolarov (Eriksen vc)

      1. MITRO'S ON FIRE
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        :O

      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        😀 Even I'm not that crazy

        1. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          We all are, ye just have accepted it, yet

      3. Man Chest Hair United
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Costa

    8. Vardy Gras PBFC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Hazard, eek.

    9. laGan1n1
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Eriksen, Benteke vc

    10. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Perhaps the most in-form striker with pens and easy fixture, Wilfried Bony.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Charlie Austin might go under that category too.

    11. money face bandwagon
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      RVP

    12. Black Knights
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yaya, but could become Austin.

    13. Surgical Attack
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Austin

    14. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      There's a hell of a variety in the answers to your question, so it could be one of those weeks where to get the captaincy choice correct results in a B-I-G leap up the rankings. Not easy.

      Currently on Yaya, might change to Austin.

  7. money face bandwagon
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    best frontline for the next few gw? regardless of price

    RVP is one of them i think...who else?

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      bony Kane

    2. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Costa

  8. Baggers
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Lost on last page, horrible decision to make who do I bench? think it's Siggy or Costa?

    This is my mid/fwd line
    Yaya - Fab - Sanchez - Downing - Siggy
    Sakho - Costa - Austin

    HELP plz

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      siggy

    2. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      11m on bench?

      1. Baggers
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I know, not sure if I can do it

      2. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Why not - if it's right!

    3. IamNotaMan.IamCantona
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Siggy Easy, 1 assist in last 5 games, im taking him out next GW

    4. MITRO'S ON FIRE
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Bench Siggy

    5. Siggy Sig Ah
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I have the same players. Siggy is getting no.1 spot on bench.

  9. King GUCI
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Baines/Lukaku - Zaba/RVP(C) for -4 yay or nay?

    1. MITRO'S ON FIRE
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yaah

  10. Fais
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Is the Hall of Fame for Members Only?

    1. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Think you just need to be in FFS league

  11. Toonzie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Baines, Clyne, Yun, Naylor, Dummett

    A) Baines to Zaba
    B) Baines to Ivan
    B) Clyne to Azpi
    C) Clyne to Clichy

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      B2

    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      clyne > azpi

    3. nibby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      C

    4. chocolove
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      C

  12. Vinnie vidic vici
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    pantilimon or Rob Green? Also Chris Brunt or Craig Gardner?

    1. MITRO'S ON FIRE
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Panti and Brunt

      1. Man Chest Hair United
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Panti

  13. Vardy Gras PBFC
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone got anything on this Cisse illness? Couldn't find anything on the NUFC website.

    1. Vardy Gras PBFC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Suppose I don't really need to know anything more than he's ill and he has not been ruled out of the weekend. Siggy off the bench.

  14. anish10
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Only way to afford eriksen:

    Siggy> Eriksen
    Naylor > Yun

    -4?

    1. MITRO'S ON FIRE
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yes if you have Bony

      1. anish10
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        nope:

        Austin Rooney Costa

  15. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all,

    Right Mirallas out has made my decision, he needs to go (was debating possibly baines if mirallas was fit) Who do you think are the best replacements for Dzeko & Mirallas?

    Rest of the team is as follows:

    Fabi / Krul

    Baines / Azpili / Wisdom / Yun / Alcaraz

    Mirallas / siggy / Haz / Sanchez / Aissaidi

    Costa / Dzeko / Austin

    1FT 2.2 ITB

    Thanks!

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      silva and bony

    2. Black Knights
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Kane and Yaya?

  16. Elijah's Wood
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Bench Siggy (Hull away) or S.Taylor (Sund home)

    1. AsAF23
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      S. Taylor

  17. dberb9
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    With front 8

    Eriksen GUlfy Sanchez Yaya Downing
    Costa Dzeko Kane

    1FT,

    Dzeko - Austin instead of Bony is ok?

    1. AsAF23
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah, should be ok. But kinda depends what you do with the money saved.

      1. dberb9
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        y, this leaves me w 4,2
        I would upgrade def probably since now is
        Bego/Elliot
        Naylor Chambers Clyne Bruce Hutton

        and leave some bank to upgrade Kane after next 2 gws maybe

  18. The Light Knight
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Some people (myself included) thought Saints would flop again like last season when their fixtures got harder. However this happened to coincide with their midfield injury crisis. Can any conclusions really be drawn on their European credentials apart from the fact they don't have an adequate squad?

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Squad depth IS the key to european credentials. Come the later end of the season squad depth defines everything.

  19. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Granville - Why does my laptop hate Rome Total War II so much? It really struggles to process it and then overheats. A fair amount of the graphics just dont appear so I am guessing its do with the lack of an independent decent graphic cards. My i3 just struggles to cope.

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      which 3 to play??

      chambo, jagielka, yun, azpi

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Drop Chambers.

        1. The Handsome Hunk
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          currently YUN is on bench..should i change it??

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Personally I would. QPR are at home after all.

    2. AsAF23
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Which 3 to play??

      Jagielka, Yun, Dummett, Wisdom, Azpi

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Drop Dummett and Wisdom

        1. AsAF23
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Dont fancy Dummett home to Sunderland? I was gonna bench Jags away to Soto.

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I see goals in the Northern Derby. But I could see why you would play Dummet over Jags.

            Do consider the newcastle goalkeeper situation though.

    3. Just A Hat
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Which 3 to play??

      Wisdom, Hutton, Siggy, Boyd

      1. Just A Hat
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        but yes, it would most probably be a graphics card issue

      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Drop Boyd. But you can piss off, you know better than to post fail!

        Yeah must be graphics card

  20. rhysybball
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Need to get Mirallas out. Already done Dzeko > Austin, so would be for a hit. 1 fit sub is Marney.

    Do I:

    a) play Marney and take the 2 points, but have no back up players if someone misses out

    or

    b) Do Mirallas > ??? for -4, and have Marney first sub.

    If so, with money no object since Ag's injury, who's the best MF option for Mirallas?

    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      money no object in this order

      Sanchez
      Yaya
      Cazorla
      Sterling

  21. StanPetrov
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Oscar > Silva for a -4 ?

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      nope

    2. JasonG123
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Certainly not.

    3. laGan1n1
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      no way

    4. HP.
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      yeah

  22. Sweetpea
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Panto
    Azpili Chambers Naylor
    Hazard Sanchez Eriksen Siggy
    Rvp Costa Austin

    How's it?

    1. Man Chest Hair United
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      9/10

    2. AsAF23
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Very nice. Dump Chambo next week.

    3. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      7/10

  23. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Elliot
    Zabs - Jags - Williams
    hazard - Fab - Siggy - Downing
    Austin - Benteke - Bony

    Bench:
    Gilks - Duff - Wanyama - Clyne

    Thinking
    Elliot -> Da Gea
    Benteke or Bony -> Giroud
    -4
    £3.8 left in bank

    Few concerns:
    Will Zabs play?
    Williams or Clyne?
    Captain? Giroud?
    Get Eriksen in for -8 (Lei next week too) for hazard (away form) or Siggy

    I am not looking at a good week 🙁

  24. JasonG123
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Foster (Myhill)
    Baines Zabaleta Dummett (Yun Wisdom)
    Sanchez Hazard Oscar Siggy (Boyd)
    Costa Bony Kane

    3.6ITB. 1FT.

    Which move?
    (A) Kane to Austin.
    (B) Oscar to Yaya.
    (C) Costa to RvP
    (D) Save FT.

    1. Deep Sea Amphipod
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      B for me mate

    2. StanPetrov
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      B or C

  25. Heels_Over_Head
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    back to 4-3-3 and it feels so right

    Foster (Myhill)

    Azpi Zaba Baines Coleman (STaylor)

    Hazard Yaya Downing (Siggy) (Bodyinho)

    (C)osta Bony Benteke

    1 FT, .1 ITB

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Who needs Mourinho, we have Bod Yinho.

    2. Man Chest Hair United
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Finally another Costa (c)

  26. The Chosen One...
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    best City defender to own?

    1. nibby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Zaba/Demi

    2. Surgical Attack
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I got Zaba last week and got burned. 🙁

    3. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      kompany (when fit)
      until then prob Zabaleta

    4. AsAF23
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      None of them would be better.

  27. nibby
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Lamela 🙂

  28. saata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Siggy to

    A) Eriksen
    B) Silva
    C) Sterling

    ?

    1. nibby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      A

      1. Surgical Attack
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Eriksen

    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      C)

    3. AsAF23
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Stick.

  29. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Any Bony captainers

    Against Hull would be perfect time for him to score a hatty

    1. Surgical Attack
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I will be happy enough to own him. No need to captain

    2. Black Knights
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Never a bad time to dream that your captain might score a hat-trick, is there?

    3. NATSTER
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Are Hull that bad?

    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Eriksen C Kane VC or vice vice versa for me.

      1. mipola
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Not safe to captain players playing the same game, there's always a chance for the game to be called off.

  30. Plagued by indecision
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Not much clue what to do this week... any thoughts?

    Foster
    Jagielka / Bertrand / Azpilicueta
    Sanchez / Sigurdsson / Hazard / Yaya
    Austin / Costa / Ayoze

    Subs: Albrighton / Moore / Hutton

    Pretty desperate to get rid of Jagielka, Bertrand, Sigurdsson, Ayoze, Albrighton and Moore. 1.3m in the bank and only 1 FT. Who is most pressing?

    1. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      ayoze to kane/sakho and you're ready to rock

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      There is nothing there that an -8 point hit would not solve