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Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Premium Defenders

We roll out the fourth article in our analysis of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Player Price List this afternoon. Having looked at what’s on offer with the Goalkeepers, Budget Defenders and Mid-Price Defenders, we cast an eye over the premium defenders for the 2015/16 campaign.

Before we kick off our analysis, it’s worth bearing in mind a handful of new changes to the FPL Bonus Point System (BPS) system revealed on Thursday, which will affect defenders.

As we’ve already discussed a decrease in the BPS for pass completion will prove detrimental to defenders in teams that dominate possession. This will influence some of the contenders in this article, such as Chris Smalling, Vincent Kompany, Laurent Koscielny and John Terry – all four registered a pass completion rate of 87% or more and also produced more than 30 successful passes per appearance.

To somewhat compensate, an alteration to the Clearances, Blocks and Interceptions (CBI) should boost the bonus point prospects of dominant central defenders. Previously, a defender was required to make three clearances, blocks or interceptions to earn a point towards BPS but now needs to make just two. In addition, players are now rewarded two BPS points for every net successful tackle this time around – double last season’s one point.

With that in mind, we’ll now assess the main premium candidates…

Laurent Koscielny is the only Arsenal defender to come in at 6.0 this season, largely by virtue of his three goals in just 27 appearances in the previous campaign. The France international only registered eight goal attempts from inside the box last term, however, so he may find it difficult to maintain such an impressive strike rate, although he has netted at least twice in each of the last five campaigns. Koscielny also grabbed 15 bonus points last season, three more than Per Mertesacker, who made eight more appearances than his partner at the heart of the Gunners defence. In terms of CBI, Koscielny’s average of one every 8.73 minutes was far quicker than Mertesacker’s 11.37 and suggests he’s the likeliest of the pair to benefit from this tweak.

The success of the Chelsea backline last season, where they racked up 17 clean sheets, has seen all their starters priced at 6.0 and above. Cesar Azpilicueta is the cheapest at 6.0, with the Spaniard perhaps the most likely of the back four to be rotated, with Filipe Luis offering solid cover. The latter only started nine matches last season, though, with two of those coming after the title had been wrapped up, so the threat to Azpilicueta looks minimal, particularly in light of speculation linking the Brazil international with a move back to Atletico Madrid. The former Marseille defender also led all Chelsea defenders for bonus points last season, despite only bagging three assists in terms of attacking returns.

Gary Cahill is available at 6.5, but is unlikely to attract many suitors given he lost his place to Kurt Zouma for part of last season and only managed to notch a single goal and assist. Compared to other Chelsea defenders, Cahill led the way for total CBI (289) and average CBI (one every 10.93 minutes) in 2014/15, though his security of starts looks weaker than the rest of the Blues’ backline.

That brings us to Branislav Ivanovic and John Terry, who both carry a 7.0 FPL price tag after starting all 38 league matches last term. Ivanovic was ranked fourth for successful tackles last time out, with a tally of 75 superior to any other Chelsea backline option, though Azpilicueta made just five fewer in almost 1000 minutes less. In terms of attacking threat, Terry scored five times last season to Ivanovic’s four, but the latter’s underlying stats are clearly superior. Ivanovic led all defenders in 2014/15 for goal attempts from inside the box with 30, compared to Terry’s 19, and was also third among all defenders for chances created (36). Terry netted 25% of his chances last time out and will be hard pushed to replicate that conversion rate.

With Romelu Lukaku seemingly Everton’s first-choice penalty taker, Leighton Baines has seen his stock plummet. The England left-back has a starting price of 6.5 this season, which unless the Toffees can improve on last term’s ten shut-outs, may deter many Fantasy managers. Baines also lost some of his direct free-kick duties to Kevin Mirallas, and should the Belgian stay at Goodison Park, this further dents the former Wigan man’s appeal. He did still chalk up two goals and nine assists in 2014/15, so when Everton’s schedule improves from Gameweek 11, Baines could move back onto our radars.

Seamus Coleman has also seen his price fall, with the Republic of Ireland international now setting us back 6.0 in FPL. The right-back scored three goals and grabbed four assists last season – a reasonable return – although with so many strong options available in the mid-price bracket, he will need to keep producing those attacking returns to justify that extra investment. Given that Phil Jagielka is cheaper at 5.5, Coleman may struggle to win over Fantasy suitors.

Chris Smalling’s attacking threat means he’s the priciest backline option at United. Setting you back 6.0, the centre-half produced four goals and 17 goal attempts from inside the box in just 24 appearances. Given his chequered injury history and the fact there will be Man United starters available for 5.5, though, it remains to be seen whether he’ll provide decent value. Smalling’s average CBI (8.37 minutes) was quicker than Arsenal’s Koscielny, for example, and just behind Phil Jones’ 7.86 for frequency amongst United backline options.

Over at the Etihad, disappointing campaigns for both Vincent Kompany and Pablo Zabaleta sees the pair both available at 6.0. In a season blighted by injury, Kompany failed to register any attacking returns in his 25 appearances last season, after scoring four times in the title-winning 2013/14 campaign. It’s worth noting that Kompany averaged one CBI every 12.98 minutes last time out – some way behind Martin Demichelis’ 10.46 for the Citizens.

Zabaleta registered a reasonable return of one goal and four assists last term, but like his skipper, struggled to hit the heights of previous years. He only created 26 chances in 29 appearances, which is a poor return given the attacking talent on show at City. Bacary Sagna didn’t steal too much playing time, making only eight starts, so if Manuel Pellegrini can get his side firing more consistently this season, it would only boost the Argentine’s chances of bagging attacking points. City did manage to keep 13 clean sheets last term, despite generally failing to impress as a backline, so an improvement on that number would certainly provide a boost to their regulars as Pellegrini attempts to wrestle the title back from Chelsea. Looking at the stats from last term, Zabaleta was second amongst defenders for successful tackles (78) and should be one of the main beneficiaries of this new rule change.

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  1. chiiswaerch
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Just some early draw

    Ruddy - Butland
    Azpilicueta - Ward - Huth - Baker - Hoban
    Hazard - Depay - Yaya - Walcott - ( 5 )
    Kane - JRod - Benteke

    Def looks horrible...

    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'd swap that 5 MID to a 4.5 and use the 0.5m to either upgrade Yaya to Sterling, or one of your defenders

    2. money face bandwagon
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Not a fan of jrod yet. Depay n walcott might not start. Baker not starter. Who is hoban?

      1. chiiswaerch
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        still a few weeks to go so probabely half of the team will be changed anyway.
        If Depay and walcott dont look like starters i have to look some where else..

        Hoban some 4.0 from watford
        But i guess i have to upgrade them both to 4.5

  2. schlupptheweek
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Pick one to do best over 10 weeks because I cba to do transfers and I think patience could be key.
    Crazy team:
    Ruddy (Butland)
    Francis Huth Colloccini (Ward) (O'Shea)
    Yaya Sterling (before he is a Man City player) Silva Depay Ozil
    Wilson (C) Deeney (Aguero for GW1 unless fit to start)

    Sensible team:
    Pantilimon (Hennessey)
    Huth Azpillicueta Koscielny Cedric (Ryan Bennett)
    Yaya Fabregas Henderson Depay (Wanyama)
    Giroud (C) Sakho (Aguero for GW1 unless fit to start)

    I think that the crazy team could do really well if I give it a chance because Man City average very high PPG amongst attackers. Also it is hard to find clean sheets even spending a lot.

  3. Herman Toothrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on Vardy?

    I have him as my third striker alongside Rooney and Costa.

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      he might not do so great with a more defensive minded manager.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I think there are better and cheaper options

  4. supta
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    what you guys think? think more cash in defense and 2 keepers this season

    Cech/Schmeichel
    Coleman,Ivanovic,Morgan,Bellerin,Cresswell
    Cabaye,Henderson,Ritchie,Silva,Herrera
    Benteke,Deeney,Costa

    1. Hanked
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Not great. That Midfield is too light, I think you have overspent in Defence. Coleman is a poor pick IMO, Cresswell is decent but a bit of a luxury, Bellerin is an expensive risk.

  5. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Aguero , 5.5 mid , Wanyama

    or

    Lukaku, Chadli, Milner

    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      If Kun's fit, then first.

    2. Jigger & Pony
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ki is a good option at 5.5

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        2 ex celtic players in the midfield? Not sure i can do that ...

  6. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    I'm really liking the mid trio of Haz, Walcott and Sterling.

    Anyone else going with them?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I have Fab, Walcott and Sterling. The extra £2.5m is really handy 🙂

      1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I got Caz instead of Walcott (on PKs), but contemplating Haz>Fab

        1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Ramsey, not Caz. Nevermind PKs.

      2. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Looked at that and then saw Haz already has 55% ownership. You're right though.

      3. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Reply fail below - would you captain Fabs though? Or are you going Costa too?

        1. denial
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          eh? what's going on! @ WR

        2. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Rooney and Aguero will cover my capt most weeks, Wally too if he nails down a place

          1. denial
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Sound. Will have a look at this. Fabs is great value.

    2. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      If Walcott was guaranteed minutes he'd be the first name in my team. But, at least at the start, I'd rather a surer starter.

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Can't see him not starting after the way he finished last season plus Sanchez being rested

    3. Boyd to Sven
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      On Haz, Sterling and Rambo at the min.

  7. Nabs Kebabs
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Myhill
    Koscielny/Darmian/PVA
    Hazard/Walcott/Mane/Chadli
    Rooney/Benteke/Sakho

    Rudd/4.5/Morgan/4.0 (1.0m)

    1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Are you estimating w/Darmian? I don't believe he's up there yet.

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, assuming he is 5.5, I reckon Man U defence is value this season with their new signings

  8. Tinmen
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Folks, any idea when the Team News Section (Predicted line-ups) will be up?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Week before probably, so many transfers still to be done plus pre season clues (and injuries)

  9. Drop Dead Tsimikas
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Did some tinkering per advice on prior page. Still some punts here.

    Ruddy/Myhill
    Ward/Mertesacker/Cedric/Morgan/Alderweireld
    Hazard/Ramsey/Sterling/Sigurdsson/Tettey
    Costa/Benteke/Vardy

  10. Seb Wassell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Sanchez & Fabregas

    or

    Ramsey & Hazard

    - Both come out at the same price

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      second one but it is very close

    2. Drop Dead Tsimikas
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ramsey/Haz

    3. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ozil + Hazard

      1. Seb Wassell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        May I ask why Ozil over Ramsey?

        Given equal minutes I reckon Ramsey may edge it.

        1. GoonerByron
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Just fancy him to do very well this season.. Should get his first proper preseason under his belt with no injury/World Cup. He's nailed to play in his favoured central attacking position.. Prefer this to Ramsey either being further back or stuck out right, even if he does still get into the box.

          1. Seb Wassell
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            You may well have convinced me there. I was not sold on where Ozil/Ramsey would play, but if what you say is true then I think I agree.

    4. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks for the replies all

  11. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    The RMT's amuse me people find something wrong with all of them.

    It also seems to be assumed that players from x,y or z club is necessary for "coverage". This is the biggest myth going! You hear it on the scoutcasts a lot it has just become one of the de rigueur word in the lexicon.

    There is also no such thing as essential status no matter how much the word is bandied about. In fact the word should be banned! The whole game is about picking players at the right time when they hit form. If they hit form and have the fixtures all the better! If they are value players with form and fixtures definitely get the player. Then get ready to sell if the form/fixtures take a dip.

    People seem to be assuming that the team will be the persons team for the season.

    In five gameweeks time the half the team could be completely different...

    Easiest way is to pick players that will definitely start and rotate some. Throw in a few viable captain options. Job done.
    After that let the bandwagons and 4.0m players emerge to facilitate future changes

    1. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed on essential. I basically spent a WC to get Di Maria last year, didn't end well.

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah he was only good for about 4/5 weeks early on. I got lucky too the gamble early then got rid when he started to flop and worse not start!.

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I smoked a wildcard trying to get Baines.

        Both my wildcards were disasters last year.

    2. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Why so serious?

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Probably been reading to many RMT comments!

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          They should use RMTs as a form of torture in Guantanamo Bay.

    3. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Coverage rules.

  12. El Copo
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Best 5m defender to play every week?

    I'm thinking Williams or Janmaat.

    1. JoeShmoe
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Williams

    2. Drop Dead Tsimikas
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cedric?

    3. Kshitiz Basnet
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Taylor

    4. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Williams. He'll clean up with the new BPS

    5. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      van Aanholt

    6. Boyd to Sven
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Lescott

  13. Kshitiz Basnet
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Cech and Azpi
    Or
    Courtois and Laurent

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cech and azpi

  14. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Would Schneiderlin count as home grown?

    1. The Taint Tickler
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He is home grown, yeah.

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        So City didn't bother then.

      2. megatronaldinho
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        your name is... i dunno. sounds like you engage in some very light-hearted sexual assault. feckin odd name

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Hahaha.

        2. The Taint Tickler
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Nothing light-hearted about it.

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Hahahaha

        3. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Ive got a mate who is nicknamed 'Nick the Finger', I won't go in to detail.

    2. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      We've had him since 18.

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I have conflicting information, did this particular rule not get passed?
        http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9774588/no-longer-home-grown-xi-stars-who-would-lose-status-under-fa-plan

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Did it get passed? I thought they were merely proposals?

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            So why did City not show any interest do you think?
            Same thing with Clyne and a few others.

            1. Lucy.
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Because they're stupid? 😀

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                That too.

          2. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            I think it did, but only in force starting from 2016/2017.

            1. Camp No No
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Hmm... not sure after all. Tried to check it but can't find any conclusion on it. I somehow have a memory of reactions to the rule as if it passed.

    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He is home grown, yes.

  15. Nabs Kebabs
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    I reckon Sterling wil do very well at City, tbh.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Me too, well worth a punt in FPL for £1m less than Silva

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        He is a much more fpl friendly pick than Silva i reckon, i'm certainly tempted. The one thing concerning about Sterling is his professionalism, or lack of. But now that he has left Merseyside i think he'll have a lot more motivation with his football, this is one of those occasions where both parties will benefit i think, Sterling needed to move to refresh himself and Liverpool got more than they bargained for

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          But the one may bash the other. I am now very tempted by Yaya, from an FPL perspective, you understand?

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            yeah i know what you mean, in terms of fpl they may both be good but not great picks, certainly a worry. I am one of those who just can't pick Yaya in FPL but there is value there for sure. Gonna be very interesting

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              8.5 is waving before my eyes ... irritating!

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      What will city's line up be with him?

    3. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Yep. I'm sold. He's in for me.

    4. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I can see this going wrong for Sterling, it wouldn't be the first time a young, over-priced player has failed to perform once the pressure hits him.

      Sincerely hope not for his sake.

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        He was under more pressure when there was all the doubt about his future last season and off field antics

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          But his starting was guaranteed, even when he didn't perform, because half the team were injured. This won't be the case at City.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              It will, my fellow imbiber.

              1. Boris Bodega
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Scott Sinclair....?

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            City will start Yaya, Silva, Kun week in week out when fit. ONE of Fernando/Fernandinho aswell. So 2 of Sterling, Navas, Nasri, Bony get the other spots, he doesn't have much to worry about i reckon. Navas didn't even score a goal in PL last season from 2200+ mins

    5. Judas
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      yeah what do people think city's line up will be?

      1. Concrete
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Hart
        Zab Kompany Mangala Clichy
        Pogba* Yaya
        Sterling De Bruyne* Silva
        Aguero

        1. PSEBJ27
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I'd love for this to be true but I can't see us getting Pogba

      2. PSEBJ27
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        At the moment:

        Hart

        Zabaleta Kompany Mangala Clichy

        Yaya Fernandinho

        Sterling Silva Nasri/Navas

        Agüero

        Ideally Nasri/Navas becomes De Bruyne or Isco, and then we're all set.

  16. Tinmen
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone punting on Bony?

    Do we think he will even start?
    A lot of money paid for him so surely you would think he will

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He will only start if Aguero doesn't imo. I think Aguero will start

      1. Tinmen
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Will both not start tho?

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Not imo

        2. Nabs Kebabs
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Easy home fixtures i think Pelle likes 2 up front

    2. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Until Aguero is fit yes, but I think then it's a case of you've given yourself a player that needs transferring out

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      It is man city they can afford to pay a lot of money and be a player who is a backup player.
      Would be great if he did start regularly with an aguero injury it could easily happen.

    4. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I think he will start, and Pellegrini does like a 4-4-2 set up.

      1. PSEBJ27
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I think Pelle's smart enough to realize that Sterling and Silva would be wasted that far wide...scratch that, I HOPE Pelle's smart enough to realize that Sterling and Silva would be wasted that far wide

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Carrick is United's best player

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yes ... right ... 😆

    2. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      LVG will play 4-3-3, most seem to agree.

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      They would struggle with that team playing no defenders!

    4. Doolittle
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'd expect Herrera to start, but they have so many midfield options now. Carrick has been key for them, will be interesting to see whether he's phased out with Schneiderlin there.

  17. La Vida Latte
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    If tekkers leave Villa, what do you think abot agbonlahor as a 5m striker?

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      great prospect then..but I think then they will try and Sign Austin

    2. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Hell nah

  18. Norfolk&Chance
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hello - thoughts are mighty welcome:

    Shmeichel (Ruddy)
    Cedric / Mertesacker / Ivan (Morgan / O'Shea)
    Hazard / Ramsey / Mata / Ritchey (Anya)
    Rooney / Sakho / ?? 6m max ??*

    *Gayle / Vydra / Deeney / Bojan

    Want £2m ITB for Pig to Kun GW3 or 4...

    Thanks for any advice!

    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Looks a fine draft for now. I prefer Depay over Mata. Not a fan of holding money at the start either, but get what you're doing.

      1. Norfolk&Chance
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks very much! i will keep an eye on Depay.

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Get Deeney first and Bojan when fit Murray from Palace is also worth a gamble at 6m

    3. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I think this suffers from the three big mids. Sakho and a 6mil striker isn't enough IMO.

      1. Norfolk&Chance
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yes - looking at it - you're right. Might give up on trying to keep cash ITB and splash out on a £8.5 forward...

  19. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    People looking at Dyer as a cheap mid? Or will new arrivals play ahead of him?

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Too many question marks with Ayew and Montero I think.

      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Right, ta. He was good when fit last year.

  20. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    No Valdes, Rafael, Varela, James, Powell, Van Persie, Hernandez (possibly because of injury) in the Tour squad so they are all off I guess.

    Evans is in so looks like he is staying and we will sign just the 1 CB.

    No Rojo or Di Maria due to Copa America.

  21. Judas
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    What are people thinking Saints defender wise?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cedric

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Cedric is card magnet

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Koeman will kick that out of him in no time.

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Fonte

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      They are going to struggle . No Toby and Schneiderlin + Europa League football . Better value elsewhere

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        They said that last season...favourites for relegation....:D
        They have good early fixtures so Mane and Steklenberg are in my team.

      2. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        They'll both be replaced and our recruitment network is stellar.

    4. The_Socca_Philosopha
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cedric

  22. The Taint Tickler
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Aguero + Ritchie or Costa + Henderson?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      First one easily

      1. The Taint Tickler
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Reckon Aguero'll be fit come GW1?

    2. The_Socca_Philosopha
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I would wait and see if Aguero starts GW1

      1. The Taint Tickler
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah his fitness is what's putting me off. Then again he is good for a goal or two even off the bench..

  23. BbBb
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    How does this look for starters?

    Schmeichel, Hamer
    Azpilicueta, O'Shea, Williams, Morgan, Wisdom
    Hazard, Walcott, Mane, Hererra, Bentaleb
    Agüero, Benteke, Wilson

    Cheers, Ads

  24. money face bandwagon
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Only awhile ago that midfield consists of cleverly and anderson

    1. Doolittle
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Incredible that it's taken them this long to sort it. It consisted of Scholes and Rafael while Pogba was there didn't it!?

      1. money face bandwagon
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If only they give pogba a chance

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Worse than that....About three years ago I got shouted down when they lined up with..

      Januzaj Giggs Cleverley Young

      I was a bit insulting towards the fact it was a child, an old man, a journeyman and a diver...and that went right back to SAF. I'm amazed it's taken so long for them to finally look strong.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        And just as amazed that SAF allowed that to happen.

        1. money face bandwagon
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah SAF should have done something back then..takes so long to finally have a midfield.

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Yep...I also added that a lot of the teams in the bottom half of the table wouldn't have swapped their midfield for those...and it was true.

            I liked SAF's no nonsense management style but he definitely took his eye off the ball in that last season.

  25. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    New RMT. I know the defense needs a little bit tweaking but we will have more info coming start of season. The team

    Schmeileh Hammer (I accept suggestions here, maybe Buttland)
    Ivan O'Shea Morgan Ward Saylor
    Hazard Wally Milner Rithcie Waynama
    Kun Rooney Deeney

    I have all the main attacking players from all top teams. That has been the formula to success in the past.

    City - Kun
    Chelsea - Hazard
    Arsenal - Wally
    United - Rooney
    Liverpool - Milner

    Thoughts ?

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Solid I think Milner will help out with that defence, and you should get a lot of clean sheets because of it!

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Haha. You are kidding right? I think Milner came in order to play CAM. Its his season. Season keeper. Easily possible 10 goals 10 assist from him. Big fan personally

    2. Doolittle
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I actually think it's good, as you say the defence needs tweaking, and Deeney is a risk, but it's a good effort to get all of those big hitters in.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I might go Hoolahan instead of Ritchie because of poor starting fixtures and use that extra 1m in defense

        1. The Rock
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I think that's a good idea tbh Daniel. I have Hoolahan and he will be on a lot of set pieces. + you need to upgrade defense/GK a little but other that that it's a good team

    3. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, I like it. Not miles off what I've got atm. I like Sakho over Deeney, but I get why you've gone for him as cheap 3rd.

  26. Herman Toothrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Ighalo, .5 cheaper than Deeney.

    I have just seen he scored four goals in one game last season... although it was against Blackpool.

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Deeney all the time. Isn't Deeney on penalties?

  27. C-Dawgg
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Alright guys!

    I've enjoyed my summer break from FF but I think it's about time to get back in the lab. Would love some opinions on the following:

    1) is Cabaye gonna mess with Puncheons points?
    2) how do we think Walcotts game time is gonna go?
    3) what's normally hotter, chicken Dansak or Jalfrezi?
    4) Oh my Hazard is looking expensive, but can you leave him out?
    5) who is this seasons big budget 5th mid?

    It's good to be back.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Probably
      Swimmingly
      Jalfrezi
      Yes
      Nothing exciting on offer

  28. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Is Wes Hoolahan nailed on? He should be on penalties too

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      No although in Ireland you would swear he was Messi the way the commentators here go on about him.
      So no Wessi is not nailed on.....

  29. Will the ManU midfield be an inglorious mess?
    Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    So. I am the only one who thinks that the Manchester United midfield will be an inglorious mess?

    OK, then. 🙂

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Like that movie inglorious bastards?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        No. That ended well ...

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          😀

    2. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I have faith that there's method in the madness... there must be... surely? 😛

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If you say so. I can't see any.

      2. money face bandwagon
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Might need an injury or two unfortunately to help lvg find out his best team

      3. Maine Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Putting FF aside for a mo, I dearly hope it will be an inglorious mess. However, I do have Depay in my team so i'm hoping for some set piece magic from him.

    3. money face bandwagon
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Fpl wise i would only have rooney at the start. Depay a wait n see together with mata n herrara.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Well, there you go ...

    4. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I agree how they went for that overrated hack Schweinsteiger is a mystery to me ;). Payet for the Ballon D'OR ?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        That would be wonderful. 🙂

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I have Sakho in my team so it's bound to happen 🙂

            1. Nabs Kebabs
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              I read this earlier, i remember Sakho was scoring for fun last season with Valencia next to him up top, what would this mean to his prospects do you think?

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Well, I don't really know. That is why I posted it.

                BFS fecked up that partnership all by hisself.

                1. Nabs Kebabs
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 9 months ago

                  Doos I replied to this and it never posted 🙁

                  I think i'll take the risk anyway tbh, at 6.5m its hardly the end of the world if it doesn't work out. The home fixtures are just too good to ignore

    5. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I think it'll take time to work, but it will do.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I am glad that you are sure. I can see the dressing room fracturing. Again.

        1. Lucy.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Because of what?

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Over-inflated egos, of which there are many.

        2. denial
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I'm no Utd expert, but it would appear they're trying to get rid of players who could've been disruptive. RVP going is a major deal I reckon.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            And you don't reckon that Rooney is disruptive?

            1. denial
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Yes, but he's got everything he wants now. Captain and no RVP there.

              This is all pure speculation of course.

    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Yep took him ages to find the formula last season and had to leave ADM out. I think it will take a good few weeks for them to get into a flow. Fixtures are a bit mixed too. They started with much easier fixtures last season.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Hmmm - well the very annoying thing is, is that the fixtures are kinder than people on here think.

        MUN: TOT 248 avl 285 NEW 565 swa 30 LIV 299 sot -133 SUN 514 ars -261 eve 86 MCI 49 cpl 151 WBA 462

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I have done my own excel sheet up on the fixtures.
          Three colours overall red=difficult, Blue = easy, Orange = Awkward
          I only have 4 blues out of the first 12.

          But I see what you mean most of the defences they are playing against are not watertight.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            I have three light blues, and three dark blues there. And one pink - Arsenal.

            1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Swansea, Southampton and Everton away all seem awkward to me gave them orange.
              I gave spurs, liverpool and man city a red. Although I might reconsider the spurs one because they can't defend

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                I don't choose. My ratings generator does:
                v. d. fix.=(H -400; A -325)/ d. fix.=(H -200; A -150)/ fav. fix.=(H +150; A +200)/ v. f. fix.=(H +325; A +400)

    7. Nabs Kebabs
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I agree, people who think Arsenal mids are a lottery need to re consider their thoughts on Man U. Remember how much chopping and changing LVG was doing start of last season? It's gonna happen again, surely. I will pick Rooney and Darmian if 5.5 then will wait and see what happens with the mids.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, I remember it well.

    8. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      just the Captain... their midfield looks a bigger headache than Arsenal's

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Who will be captain, then, with that lot?

    9. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Could be...He has the raw material to work with now though, if he makes a bllx of it then he won't need to look far for the blame.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        You see, I don't even agree with this. If he can mess up di Maria, he can mess up anything. And a lot of those "stars" are hugely overrated on here. Imo.

        1. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          let's not retcon here, Di Maria was great to own for the first few weeks.

        2. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Well yeah...he did manage to make a sows ear out of a silk purse with that one...

        3. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I think there are many contributing factors to ADM, though.

          Not to say LVG didn't make a mess of it, he did, but ADM had a number of personal issues, was forced out of a club he had no desire to leave, joined United when he preferred PSG, the burglary, the language barrier. He should have had his chance playing LCM, I was livid when he didn't get that and it is the one thing I will continue to hold against LVG (aside from the bizarre penalty regime) but in matches when he came on, ADM was flinging wild crosses and banjaxing up simple passes.

          In sum, a lot went on with Di Maria, and I wish it hadn't because he was wonderful at the start of the campaign.

          Regarding the current mid transfers, they've signed Schneiderlin who is the player they need, their hand was forced by Depay since he was going to go PSG if United didn't come in, and Schweinsteiger is renowned for leadership, something that has been lacking ever since Keano left, in my opinion.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Well, you better bloody well hope that his leadership skills are better than he showed at Bayern.

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Well an awful lot of Bayern fans are furious they sold him, as are a number of players who all backed up the leadership comment. If it is to do with a potential falling out with Guardiola, he is not the first one and won't be the last one.

    10. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Midfields are a mess across the board. Everyone loading up on 8.5-9s when they could easily be outscored by 7s early on.

      Hazard is the only constant.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Speak for yourself! 🙂

    11. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      LVG is proving to be the marmite of Football managers, some players love him, some others....

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, but unlike marmite, there is no bloody yeast in there! 😉

    12. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Schneiderlin and Herrera looks a great CM pairing to me. Schweini behind and ADM in front/to the left

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Well, you go tell him, then!

        1. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Can I wait till they come back from the US? 🙂

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Anytime is good. Much good it will do you/us.

            1. The Light Knight
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              Well, I remain content that the CM pair will still be good by the time the next manager gets in

      2. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        as in

        ------Schwein----

        Herrrera----Schneiderlin,

        Mata-----Rooney-------Adm

        ?

        1. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          or at the top of a diamond

          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Mata would be better there, no?

            1. The Light Knight
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 9 months ago

              No....well probably

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 9 months ago

                Could try

                --------Schneid

                -Herrera-----ADM--

                Mata----Roo---Depay

                As a very attractive option imo.

      3. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Almost zero chance they line up this way gw1. I'd give you huge odds and be happy to take your money

    13. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      United won the League in 12/13 without a midfield - still don't know how they did it. Spoiled for choice with the current lot.

      1. Think
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        They want win it this year with so called solid midfield.

    14. bennosaurus
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      CDMs are great in real life but useless in fantasy, so I agree. The only good fantasy thing about Man Utd is Rooney might be a forward again?

    15. Eden Hazardous
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      No I am with u mate
      That is why I have gone with chadli and aguero over a manu mid and costa
      I Rooney tho

    16. A-VB
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      In terms of fantasy output,
      YES..

    17. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      In terms of Fantasy Football, it certainly looks that way early on

      In terms of real football, no its a much better midfield than last season without a doubt.