Opinion

The Knee Jerk – Gameweek 1 – Saturday

A classic knee jerk in the making, Mohamed Salah owners were already fidgeting by half-time at Vicarage Road.

Fresh from four goals in pre-season, he had endured an inauspicious start to life back in the Premier League. A toe-poked skyward effort when through on goal, packaged up with several over miscues and errant first touches totalled a miserable first 45 minutes for Salah.

In contrast, Sadio Mane had sparkled and smartly converted Emre Can’s flick to peg back a plucky first half Watford showing.

Shifted to the left flank by Salah’s arrival, it looked as though Mane had adjusted to already demonstrate that he was back as the go-to guy among the opulence in Liverpool’s attack.

But things were to turn dramatically.

Just through sheer pace and endeavour, Salah first won a penalty via Heurelho Gomes’ clumsy telescopic arms and then sprinted to convert Roberto Firmino’s chipped effort from two yards out.

He ended on 11 points and was quickly installed as the top transfer target from those in action on the day.

He tallied five shots, all in the penalty area and eight touches in the box – more than any other midfielder in Gameweek 1 so far. Just as we expected, the statistics are Salah’s friend and will likely reinforce his case throughout the season.

Mane, who picked up a booking, was left trailing and, on today’s evidence, will clearly have his work cut out to justify his billing as the most expensive option in Jurgen Klopp’s armoury.

Owned by 23.5% to Salah’s 23.3%, that narrow gap is closing as Philippe Coutinho owners bail out, turning to the Egyptian as their replacement.

It is, of course, early days and it’s back at Anfield where Mane has previously been so potent.

Nine of his 13 goals arrived on Merseyside last season and he will have Crystal Palace in his sights for Gameweek 2.

Firmino also deserves our recognition. With Klopp relegating James Milner to his bench, the Brazilian was again on penalty duties and expertly converted following Salah’s tumble.

With the assist to follow, Firmino waltzed his way to the maximum bonus points, already benefiting from his new classification as a forward.

If Milner is to remain out of favour – presumably now discounted as a left-back – then Firmino will surely prosper.

Liverpool won eight penalties last season, with all but one converted by Milner. Firmino scored 11 goals regardless.

We have no reason to expect that Liverpool’s penalty count will regress. Indeed, with Salah adding his pace to Mane’s bursts, there’s every chance it will be maintained or even increased.

The conclusion is that Firmino’s stock is on the rise and that suddenly, Mane is in danger of slipping further down our Liverpool attack pecking order.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.”

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  1. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Am I just not remembering right or is it way, way, waaaaaaay more knee jerky on here, this year than all the previous years after one (well not even a full one) gameweek?

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      it's always pretty knee jerky

    2. Doosra - ☭Bolivia Giroud…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Lost Memory Syndrome. 😉

    3. Adam West
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Nah it's about the same

    4. thepeen555
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yep all them doing transfers when one of their players could still get injured or something in the next couple of games is hilarious waste of transfers and time

    5. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Fair enough I really must have lost memory syndrome. I just can't at all believe people are willing to take a hit after the first gameweek.

      We can expect the players we have picked to all do great in one week. It's crazy.

    6. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Always jerky on here but this year I think it has to do with last season's price changes. Frequent price changes the first part of the season before it completely died down after Christmas. Those who didn't do transfers early were left with a horrible team value.

    7. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      wait until either Newcastle win, Kane/Alli/Eriksen have a haul or Utd lose 1-0 at home today then we'll see Kneejerking!!
      Seems like there were nearly 1.5m teams added last week so maybe a lot haven't spent too much time on their teams and will start panicking early.

  2. FlockofSeagulls
    3 months, 11 days ago

    How many premiums do you have in your team?

    Assuming everyone agrees premiums are:

    Defenders 5.5mil and above
    Mids 8.0mil and above
    Forwards 8.5mil and above

    I have 8. 3 defs, 2 mids and 3 fwds.

    1. the snazzy viking - team mo…
      3 months, 11 days ago

      erm

      1 defender, 1 mid, 2 forwards

      1. FlockofSeagulls
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Wow, that sounds really low. How's your gw going?

        1. the snazzy viking - team mo…
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Pretty bad at the moment

          On 30 points, with Valencia, Luka(k)u and Kane to play

          My thinking of getting 3 7m mids and 1 7m forward was that I was thinking most of the bandwagons would come 7m or under and my aim for the start of the season is to build up the TV

          Then again, having none of Salah/Firmino or Mane has cost me this GW

    2. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      2 defenders
      2 midfielders
      3 forwards

      What about goalkeepers?

      1. FlockofSeagulls
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Yep forgot about the keepers. Doh!

        I'm guessing premium keepers would be considered 5.0mil and up.

    3. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      6.

      I also have 3m in the bank.

      1. FlockofSeagulls
        3 months, 11 days ago

        That's impressive. Can I ask why you kept 3mil? Seems wasteful no?

        1. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          I'm happy with the team I picked. I didn't feel using the extra funds would get me any players I wanted that I don't already own.

          Plus it keeps my team nice and flexible for when I decide on my first transfer in a few weeks.

    4. Holmes
      3 months, 11 days ago

      3 mids and 2 forwards

    5. *sigh*
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      2,2 and 2

    6. Hairy Potter
      3 months, 11 days ago

      5 given your definition.

      0 defs, 2 mid and 3 fwds

    7. COK3Y5MURF - Emre Canada
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I don't agree.

    8. OldBenKenobi
      3 months, 11 days ago

      2 Def
      1 Mid
      3 Fwd

    9. ceejay106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      None!! I'm giving all my family members in my ML a chance this year by restricting myself to players from teams not involved in Europe! 45 points yesterday from all 11. Top of my ML this morning, but won't last with Man U and Spurs playing today!!

  3. UpAndAway
    3 months, 11 days ago

    What the consensus around a Gabbi to Mounie move? Will free up 1.0 which is handy.

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      keep for now, at least give him one more game i'd say but up to you

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Good numbers for Gabbiadini yesterday but I can see the appeal of that move.

      1. UpAndAway
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I'm running with Carroll and RLC as the rotating on field 4.5 mids at the moment. Need to turn one of them into a 5.5.

  4. 1zverGGadeM
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Any changes needed at this bunch of loosers(esp. mids) OR better SFT?
    ----------Foster(Forster)
    TAA Cedric Dawson Alonso (Jagielka)
    -----Zaha DeBruyne Phillips (Carrol FabregasOFF)
    -----King Kane Firmino

    1FT 1.0m itb

    Better play Dawson and keep Fabregas for Everton on GW3, right?
    A) Fabregas>David Silva
    B) Save FT
    C) Play Dawson/Carroll
    D) Anything else?
    Thanks!!!

    1. *sigh*
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      A

  5. The Legend Squad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    David Silva or KDB? Looks like the value is in Silva? Equally as threatening, plays a bit higher up, 2m cheaper...

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      in my opinion silva

      he ran the show and was pulling all the strings much higher up the park and actually getting into the box

    2. 82johnboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Not a bad shout

    3. Holmes
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Have to keep him for long term

    4. SADIO SANE - EMRE CANADA
      3 months, 11 days ago

      came on to ask this exact question...looking for a Fab replacement - Son/Mkhi could advertise themselves this afternoon but seriously looking at Silva and Ramsey too

      1. SADIO SANE - EMRE CANADA
        3 months, 11 days ago

        well not the exact question..

    5. RLukaku
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Was thinking that aswell, that 2m could help upgrade rest of team as well and still with city cover

    6. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I'm looking seriously at Silva

  6. Pino
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Did you miss on a draft league and want to join?

    FPL Football Manager Draft league starts from GW2: 732056-166971

  7. Dare2Zlatan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Does the season ticker change as teams form improves or is it set for the season?

    1. Doosra - ☭Bolivia Giroud…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mine does ... 😀

  8. Scab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    DRAFT LEAGUE:

    Worth doing ritchie --> ramsey for free?

    1. chilli con kone
      3 months, 11 days ago

      No IMO

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Sounds good.

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      yeah, i'd do that

    4. Pariße
      3 months, 11 days ago

      You haven't even seen Ritchie play yet.

    5. Pariße
      3 months, 11 days ago

      ...Nice fixtures after Tottenham as well, could get burned there.

  9. chilli con kone
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Draft league question.

    A. Keep Giroud
    B. Swap Giroud for Mounie

    It's unlikely I'll ever be able to get Giroud back if I waiver him

    1. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Keep

      1. chilli con kone
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Do you think he can nail down a spot?

        1. chilli con kone
          3 months, 11 days ago

          My concern is if he is only ever a super sub he won't benifit in the same way from BPS as if he starts. Obviously the lack of minutes alone compared to Mounie is a concern anyway

        2. Our Tiny Servant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          It happened for a phase last season. I'd hold for now.

    2. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      B

  10. Sims
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Can't help but feel kdb is a waste of money. Sure he'll get assists but his lack of involvement in the box is very worrying for 10m. U need goals at that price or look threatening at least

    1. chilli con kone
      3 months, 11 days ago

      He has been threatening recently. Give him another game at least

      1. Sims
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I'll give him another game but not confident he'll deliver

    2. Hairy Potter
      3 months, 11 days ago

      That was my thinking as well. Just think there are more explosive options in Liverpool and Spurs midfields. I think he was popular mainly because of uncertainty of game time for City's other attackers.

    3. Batigol
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      It's been one game. Relax.

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        We need a big sign on the site that says this 😆

        1. Sims
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Not really. Sometimes it's better to rectify your mistake early than be stubborn

          1. G-Whizz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Mistake? You're basing that on how many games exactly?

    4. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      agree. hence my choice of mane and salah over him

    5. Cato Fong 你好
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Don't know if he is a waste on money but I felt he had at least one decent opportunity yesterday to shoot just outside the box and didn't take it.

    6. Ophelia
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Its inevitable that he gets points and ends up being one of the top midfielders overall. With kdb however they wont be consistent but will get explosions

  11. Daddy Pig
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Anyone got a link to the moderators and contributors league?

  12. Clump
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Ok I thought I'd had a bad week.
    Team in my mates ML 🙂
    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/2851387/event/1

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      2 players left, reassess after they've played 😉

      1. Clump
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Still brutal. Poor girl.

    2. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Someone in my league (different app) has -7

      1. Clump
        3 months, 11 days ago

        How da fuq? 🙂

        1. Our Tiny Servant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 10 days ago

          He had Cahill and fabregas and the majority of his players were Man Utd and Spurs who hasn't played.

    3. Polka Wakey O'Dot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Made even worse by the fact that it's a good team.

      Sometimes it's said that this game has a large element of luck about it...well it does...bad luck sometimes.

      1. Clump
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Huge element of luck in the short term. Over the season it's a different matter.
        2 players sent off in one gw is mad.

    4. Daddy Pig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      My £50 ML rival. Only us 2 in it. Happy days. https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/182431/event/1

      1. Clump
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Ouch. Fancy a late entry? 🙂

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          😆

  13. Marcos Alonso is god
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Hi Mark. I was just wondering if you have ever considered extending the amount of posts that you can see on a page. I really struggle to take in everything that everybody says on a match day, because you reply to a person and straight away everyone's hopped on to a new page. Not even sure if it's possible but just an idea.

    1. chilli con kone
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I like this idea

      1. Marcos Alonso is god
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Thanks 🙂

      2. chilli con kone
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Maybe just for match days

        1. Marcos Alonso is god
          3 months, 11 days ago

          True, even now it's quite slow which allows for discussion. During a match it's just mayhem though

      3. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Sent a mail to Mark regarding this but no response.

    2. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      It would be a lot easier if this was a forum based site, then you could start threads in the relevant forum and get the information you need.
      That is just impossible here and the way it is now, you can't really find the information you need without trawling through articles and hoping it's there somewhere.
      Where this isn't forum based you even get people posting the same topic all over the place smh

      1. SADIO SANE - EMRE CANADA
        3 months, 11 days ago

        agree - could just keep the articles/comments as they are but also have a Forum tab at the top of the page people can use...

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Articles would be even better as they would be pinned in the relevant forum and they could even be locked so no one replies to them then you would use that particular forum to find whatever information you need.
          Imagine, all the RMT's in one place, everything easily accessible and has it's own place and obviously you would have a search feature too which allows you to search both articles AND comments in threads.

  14. RLukaku
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Any opinions on Morata?? Looked alright yesterday from what I heard

    1. Marcos Alonso is god
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Played very well considering the pressure he was under. Looked very hungry will be a good poacher this year I think

      1. RLukaku
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Cheers mate

    2. Ophelia
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Better than i thought hed do tbh

    3. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Well he's gonna get more minutes now that Chelsea are struggling to find 11 men.

  15. Holmes
    3 months, 11 days ago

    KDB bandwagon already getting slow, ha! Was considered as season keeper 😆

    1. Ophelia
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Good, hope people get rid and i still keep him for the inevitable explosion

      1. Holmes
        3 months, 11 days ago

        That was the only reason I didnt get him, cant wait for 3-4 weeks for a explosion

  16. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    30 minutes until team sheets are announced. Still no scout notes. Still no hot topic.

    Frustrating.

    1. Sims
      3 months, 11 days ago

      1 and a half hour

    2. COK3Y5MURF - Emre Canada
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      90 minutes. Relax.

  17. Ophelia
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Had david silva in my team but chickened out last minute... so much value at 8.0 even if its until he gets rotated or injured, still worth having imo

  18. Marc OverMata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I need to get a "gamble turned bad" named Fabregas out. Got .5 itb. Thinking straight swap to Ramsey as no other arsenal cover. Any other suggestions.

    Current mid: KDB, jwp Carrol, pogba, *fab

    Thanks

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      get ramsey

    2. Sims
      3 months, 11 days ago

      U must be having a bad gameeek

    3. Ophelia
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Even zaha could be a good pick, looked really good despite palaces result... confident he could do well up againt liverpools defence

    4. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      There's no decent 7.5 option. Do KDB to Silva and then Fab to Alli or Erikson or Salah or Mane.

  19. Polka Wakey O'Dot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Davinson Sanchez > Spurs looking increasingly likely...

    1. RLukaku
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Who?

    2. Marcos Alonso is god
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Ajax center back ain't he?

      1. Polka Wakey O'Dot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Yep. Left out of the squad and now refused to board the team bus.

        1. Marcos Alonso is god
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Intriguing, would play second fiddle to ,Toby and vert no?

  20. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I was really looking forward to playing the FPL draft game, but so far it's been a disappointment.

    - The drafting processes was full of bug's (15 teams in a league with a limit of 8 teams, unresponsive draft button, site locking up etc)

    - League tables are not being updated on a daily basis, like FPL

    - You can't view other players teams, their scores or the waiver/free agent transfers they have made.

    - When you switch between teams in different draft leagues, the points page doesn't switch from one team to the other with logging out of the PL sire first.

    IS FPL draft living up to your expectations ?

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      didn't have any issues wih draft day, but agree on the other points. why so slow?!

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        drafting processes bugs appears to effect different people in different ways at different times, I've entered 5 draft leagues

        The first one had the 15 teams in a 8 team league bug.
        The next three went well
        The final one was a complete nightmare, some guy's couldn't draft at all, and the only way I could draft was by putting my preferred player at the top of my watchlist and waiting for the time to run out !

    2. Marcos Alonso is god
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I couldn't be bothered doing it, I would give it time though- I'd think of this as the demo year and next year I'm sure it will be improved

    3. Dare2Zlatan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      It is absolute rubbish, had ten of us try it and it kept freezing and eventually locked up half way through the draft and was non responsive.

      1. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        3 months, 11 days ago

        When did you draft?

        I think there were issues with the servers because they couldn't test the game fully with the load that it eventually got over the final two days.

        Those who made drafts before Wednesday appeared to go ok but after that, it got hairy.

        I'll raise these other issues BITM.

        1. bitm2007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          That makes sense, the draft I had most of the problems with was at 11am (BST) on Thursday.

        2. bitm2007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Thanks Mark

    4. xth0rx
      3 months, 11 days ago

      the points thing is annoying, you need to switch the team, then refresh the page and the new teams points will come up

  21. kijsberg
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Replace Matip, or did Crystal Palace look very bad going forward? Rest of the defense is Bertrand, Stones, Mee and 4.0.

    1. Differential (c)
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Crystal Palace were decent in 2nd half, especially after RLC moved in a more deeper position. Benteke should've scored if not for a brilliant Lossl save.
      Having said that, am not convinced with Crystal defence. Absolute shambolic.
      Keep Matip, for now.

  22. Dare2Zlatan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I'm working nights tonight so I can check if my targets will go up in price.l before I make a move....
    anyone know what time they change at?

    1. Clump
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Around 2 ish uk time, i think.

  23. KUNingas
    3 months, 11 days ago

    What to do with Bats in draft league? Bats -> Mounie maybe?

    1. RLukaku
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Firmino

    2. Differential (c)
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mounie was very impressive, but Firmino or Vardy might be better if you can afford. (am not aware of Bats price.)

  24. masoud123
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Wonder how many points is needed to be safe in the Last Man standing league?

    1. Marcos Alonso is god
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Is there still time to join it I completely forgot about joining

      1. BLANKET DEFENCE
        3 months, 11 days ago

        think you still can

        1. Marcos Alonso is god
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Know the code by any chance?

          1. BLANKET DEFENCE
            3 months, 11 days ago

            44937-13340. Try that

  25. BLANKET DEFENCE
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Andre Gray will be the Mounie everyone wants next week.....
    At least I hope so.

    1. Marcos Alonso is god
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I was tempted to get him, interested to see how he performs

    2. Conwhe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Coming from Donegal I appreciate your user name.

  26. Brooksy86
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Stat of the day:

    Kane has never scored in August.

    1. Marcos Alonso is god
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Stat after today:
      Kane has scored 2 in August
      *I hope*

    2. Nacho Novo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Wouldn't bet against him to score today

    3. Kane-harry Island
      3 months, 11 days ago

      that stat included preseason games too. Now it has been smashed, innit?

  27. The Royal Robin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Is Willian > Mooy such a bad idea? Frees up £1.5m, better fixture next week and beyond and looks pretty decent.

  28. I like goals
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Prodl is my starter deff but yesterday he didnt play. Should I change him or wait another week? I heard Kaboul is injured. It is true ?

    1. VAPOR 9
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Kaboul had a thigh injury but not sure how serious yet.

  29. VAPOR 9
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Hi all, new here. Some advice please... How did Fraser play? Worth to get rid for Brunt or Mooy? Cheers,

  30. El cafetero
    3 months, 11 days ago

    how does last man standing work. any links please