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Scout Report – Roque Mesa

Swansea City confirmed their third new addition this summer with the signing of Las Palmas midfielder Roque Mesa for £11 million.

The 28-year-old midfielder inked a four-year deal with the Swans and revealed that head coach Paul Clement was one of the key factors behind his decision to join the Welsh side:

“One of the main reasons I had to be here was that the manager wanted me – that’s a great incentive. I felt I needed a new experience and challenge. The manager knows me, he knows how I play and what I can contribute to the team. I’ll try to make the team play.”

The History

Mesa started out at as a youth player at Levante and made his senior debut for the reserves during the 2007/08 season.

He then took in brief spells at lower league sides Huracan and Tenerife B before linking up with Las Palmas reserves in 2010.

The midfielder moved to the first-team squad a year later, but it was only during the 2014/15 season when his career really began to take off.

He was a crucial member of the Las Palmas side that gained promotion to La Liga, producing four goals and three assists in 35 league outings.

Mesa earned plenty of plaudits for his performances in La Liga last season, with several top European clubs, including Bayern Munich, Sevilla and Liverpool, reportedly among those interested in the Spaniard.

He has racked up 69 appearances in the Spanish top flight, registering two goals and five assists, playing predominantly either as a defensive midfielder or in the middle of the park.

The Prospects

As Mesa’s position and output suggests, the Spaniard is unlikely to himself be a factor in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), but his addition should play a major role in boosting the stock of both Swansea defenders and attackers.

His strengths centre around his passing, ball-winning ability and impressive stamina levels which allow him to cover every blade of grass, helping the tenacious midfielder to be compared to Barcelona’s Sergio Busquets.

Last season, only Sevilla’s Steven N’Zonzi recorded more forward passes in La Liga than Mesa, while since the start of the 2015/16 season, the 28-year-old has recovered possession more times than any other outfield player in the Spanish top flight.

Bearing in mind the quality of midfield players in Spain, Mesa certainly looks set to dramatically improve things for Swansea in that area of the pitch.

Leon Britton was a key figure for the Swans during the run-in last season as the Welsh club narrowly avoided relegation, but at 34, he can’t be relied upon to play week in, week out.

Mesa may well take over from the Swans skipper in the defensive midfield role then, although he could also operate either on the right of the midfield diamond favoured by Clement during the tail end of last season, or as part of a three-man midfield in a 4-3-3 system.

Tom Carroll, Leroy Fer, Ki Sung-Young and Jay Fulton are the other players battling for spots in the Swansea midfield, although Ki will miss the start of the season due to a knee injury.

One of the main beneficiaries of Mesa’s deep-lying playmaking should be Gylfi Sigurdsson, providing he remains at the Liberty Stadium amid mounting interest from Everton and Leicester City.

Jonathan Viera occupied a similar role to Sigurdsson for Las Palmas last term, and with Mesa working his magic from a deeper position, that allowed Viera to flourish in the more advanced areas, finishing third in La Liga for chances created with 81.

Sigurdsson himself produced 72 key passes last term, with that number likely to increase playing alongside Mesa, who boasted a passing accuracy of 91.2% in 2017/18.

Mesa’s lack of attacking threat means he is likely to come in at around 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), and bearing in mind he has also picked up 26 yellow cards over the past two seasons, he is unlikely to enter our thoughts as a viable budget option.

Sky Sports have introduced him as a 7.6 option, a good 1.0 more than Britton and 0.7 more than Cork.

But passing bonus could yet see Mesa justify that price tag, with the Spaniard likely to trip the tier one threshold for bonus points for 60 completed passes.

Britton and Cork managed this just twice each last season, averaging 35.8 and 40.5 completed passes per match respectively.

In contrast, Mesa averaged a formidable 64.7 completed passes per appearance in La Liga. However, it remains to be seen if his tika-taka style can immediately impose itself in the Premier League. If he can translate those figures to English football, his Sky Sports bonus potential will be strong.

Indeed, having lost their identity over recent seasons, the addition of Mesa is a giant stride towards the Swans returning to a possession-based gameplan, with the Spaniard the new heartbeat of the side.

Only six teams had less possession than Swansea (45.1%) following the arrival of Clement, compared to 58.6% during their maiden Premier League campaign back in 2011/12 under Brendan Rodgers, when only two sides managed more.

Mesa’s ability to sniff out danger in front of the back four may also be a contributing factor in boosting the Swans’ clean sheet potential.

That could be something worth considering given their very favourable run of home fixtures (MUN, NEW, WAT, HUD, LEI, BHA, BOU) over the opening months of the season and their home rotation pairing with West Brom.

Providing the Swans can keep hold of Sigurdsson and Alfie Mawson, the pair could prosper from Mesa’s range of talents in midfield and emerge as leading mid-price options.

As for Mesa himself, his all-action industry is only likely to be of use in daily Fantasy games where greater emphasis is placed on rewarding passing, tackles and recoveries.

Further Reference

Roque Mesa Wikipedia

Roque Mesa Transfer Markt Page

Roque Mesa You Tube Highlights

2,524 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Pogba had 3 shots per game compared to Rooney's 2. Both could be great value this season coming if Pogba converts more and Rooney play/gets forward more/takes penos .

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I was warming to Pogba until I saw Alli/Coutinho prices.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        What prices? Please?

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          9.5 Alli, 9.0 Coutinho

          Are you joking, Doos? I can't tell haha

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Btw I hope you're right about your prediction about our man...cuz I need that 0.5 badly

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              So do I, mate. So do I.

              Coutinho 9.0? Hmmm. Excellent value ...

              Thanks! 🙂

              1. ★Kuntheman★
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 11 months ago

                Where you been, mate? People have been eating up those prices for a while.

                Interested with Coutinho but if he's playing deeper than the front three I think he'll be a bit isolated

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 11 months ago

                  I got bored with that game. 🙂

                  1. ★Kuntheman★
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 11 months ago

                    🙂

              2. Fantasy Gold
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 11 months ago

                Coutinho and Eriksen will be first two names in my team 🙂

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 11 months ago

                  I am certainly looking at both.

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Well, you get them, then! 😀

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Fair chance I will if Rooney is 6.5-7m.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Good Luck ...

          EVE : STK 460 mci -283 che -566 TOT -57 mun -226

      2. Fantasy Gold
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I think better value can be found elsewhere that's all 🙂

        You starting with Pog then, Doosra?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Certainly not! 😀

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Ah, I misread. Thought your second comment was aimed at me.

            As you were 😆

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              Hehehe.

    3. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I stopped reading after Rooney

  2. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    @Swansea fans. Will Abraham play or will Llorente keep him out?

    1. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Swans played 4-4-2 at the end of last season so they both could play

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Sweet.

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Llorente's arm is fractured. I don't think he can keep out anyone atm

    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Could be a conventional 442.

      There's no way Llorente is being benched though

      1. Odikostar
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Benched plenty of times last season?

    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      How would they know? In general I don't get the 'I talked to so and so supporting fan about so and so and he/she said they're going to do this next season', how would they know? Especially before pre-season has begun.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Because the manager rings up every fan of their club to tell them....everybody knows that.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Me and Paul go way back 🙂

    5. James H
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      It's likely we'll continue with the midfield diamond in a 4-1-2-1-2, so he'll probably be battling with Ayew to partner Llorente (who it's hoped will be fit for the first game). Unless Abraham lights it up during pre-season, he's probably going to be a risk GW1.

      A lot is up in the air given the Llorente injury and the Sigurdsson speculation though.

  3. The Hindu Monkey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    I was very set, pre prices on Coutinho and Kane

    but Alli and Firmino is potentially going to be as much as 3.5 to 4m cheaper

    that is massive

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      True. Although without Kane who will be your other 2 strikers? I'm guessing Lukaku will be one of them, leaving... ?

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        King or Defoe. Or maybe Jesus.

    2. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Its the fear that gets you.

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Alli Coutinho only 0.5 more. Worth it imo

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I'm going for all 4 with Kane, Firmino, Defoe up top, too many good midfield options to ignore

      2. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        yes but Firmino isn't a midfielder anymore and he wants to fill one midfield and one forward slot

        1. The Hindu Monkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          who does...

          1. the snazzy viking
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            what is life anymore

  4. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Ultimate team name for those playing the value game for the season: Lacacheque

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Petr Cech Yourself

    3. Ted Bovis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling Silva

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Shaw Mee da Manè

  5. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Will Bolasie have a better year? He's actually an incredible player.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Is he ready to play?

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      *incredibly skillful player

    3. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Not fit until Jan is he!?

  6. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Best Chelsea player to own this season?

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Batshuayi...

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      At the start of the season? Probably Pedro

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers

    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Willian/Pedro and Azpi

    4. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Alonso the 7m defender

    5. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Loftus-Cheek

  7. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Complete template smasher would be if Batshuayi somehow ends up the starting striker at Chelsea

    1. JJO
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      or template maker

      1. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        This.

    2. Woeisme
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No player can "smash a template" They merely become part of it. If one actually exists in the first place!

      Deep

    3. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Batshuayi will be template then 😉

    4. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I think Conte and Costa will kiss and make up sadly

    5. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Not gonna happen

      If Costa leaves Conte will transfer a 'big name'. Morata or even better. He won't settle for Batshuayi and if he brins Llorente in he won't see him as hi number one choice either

      And if Chelsea doesn't get another very good striker then Conte will leave

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Has nothing on the Rudiger one, that one is blowing everyone away.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I have blocked that from memory. Why was he locked up in some back room?

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          That Rudiger one was so cringe I had to look away

        2. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          And what sadistic father tells his son to get a David Luiz jersey

          1. the snazzy viking
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Plot twist: It's not his Dad

      2. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        link?

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf25rr-cVWc

          Makes me want to vomit

          1. KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Hahaha oh dear god

          2. blueblood
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            thats brilliant.. lovit 😉

            CFC4LIFE

    2. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      looooooooool

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      1. Who is Jack? (in Borat voice)

      2. Why is he driving to Cork?

  8. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Imo firmino is more valuable than jesus
    Atleast he plays false nine not right side and 2.0 cheaper.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Shhhhhhhhhhhhh

    2. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Disagree.

      Jesus won't always play on the right, and Firmino is overrated

  9. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Is going Kane, Firmino and Defoe as a strike force, ignoring the other big hitters up top to accommodate more 9-10m midfielders potentially genius or unnecessarily risky?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      You lost me at Firmino.

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      It's all about Batshuayi now. Firmino is done.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        What Wakey says.

    3. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Lukaku will destroy you

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        How crap was Ibrahimovic? Pogba 28 through balls ...

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          He was a bit too old to run onto through balls, Lukaku is going to love Pogba's service 🙂

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            I see. *strokes beard* 😉

        2. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Ibra is like soo last year Doos.. it's all about big Rom now

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            I am admiring your footwork, there ... 😉

            1. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              🙂

      2. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        That's the worry: the hope is if I can sneak in a midfield of Salah, Mane, Alli & De Bruyne (if 9.5m) /ozil/eriksen, it would be worth it

      3. Pieterke30
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Nah. We cant have them all - it has never been as true as the coming season.

        Kane, Alli, Sanchez, Lukaku, Jesus, Aguero, KDB, Mané, Salah, Coutinho, Eriksen, Hazard, maybe even Lacazette - all of them will punish/destroy the non-owners from time to time, and all of them will be expensive.

        Maybe even

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          True enough.. can't have them all is right

    4. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Do we really think Defoe will be worth it? If for example Milner scores 150 this season, Defoe would have to score 185 to be better value.

      I don't like having two mid price strikers at all personally, I think it puts you in awkward transfer situations.

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        All fair points. Defoe should do well given Fraser's penchant for winning pens and Bournemouth's attacking style of play. The second point is making me think it over, Kane would be a season keeper, so would be relying on value to allow me to get the big hitters later on.

  10. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    From @BBCSport:

    Confident Gunners fans?

    It looks like Alexis Sanchez is staying at Arsenal after all.

    More: http://bbc.in/2tIHdO0

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Brill...

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Best news I've heard all week

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Long way to go til Aug 31

    3. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Wenger chats shit.

    4. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      See out his contract.. no mention of him signing one lol

      Someone may be getting a hell of a freebie at the end of the season lol

  11. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Live feed link for mac mayweather conference:
    https://youtu.be/oxgeEx-xyS8

  12. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Seeing as the article is about a new swansea mid, thought id remind people that a Swansea mid always seems to start well:

    Sinclair, michu, siggy, ayew, fer in previous seasons

    And they have decent fixtures too!

    1. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Where is the lad barrow now?

      1. MikeHawk Pulauwin
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Was on loan at Leeds

  13. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Already freaking out a little at the thought of not being able to squeeze in so many big hitters.....

    Any thoughts on this front 7 in a 3 5 2?

    Pogba sane alli coutinho xxx
    Lukaku Defoe 4.5

    Can't see too many captaincy options...

    Alternative is just get kane and lukaku and go from there...

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I am in full Pike mode ... DON'T PANIC!!! 😀

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I have only one mode...Panic!!

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Keep calm and drink ... wine! 😀

    2. Slam
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Welcome back lol 😆

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers mate...you too

        It's the suspense that's worse than anything

    3. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Absolutely make sure you have two good captain picks....anything else is iffy. Some good players in that team but I'd only captain Lukaku and even then I'd wish I had somebody else to put it on.

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        That's my thought...

        And why I think I'll start with kane lukaku in a 352 and go from there.

        Started with 2 pricey forwards last season in ibra and kun and hit the ground at full pelt..

    4. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Defoe is going to have to prove his worth to me.

  14. blueblood
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    how many times can I refresh the FPL website before the internet breaks??

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Rotate this 8 at 90 degrees and you have the answer 😉

  15. Slam
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Remind me, why do people want to go 4 or 5 at the back again?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No idea. There is something in the air ...

      1. Slam
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        You have poor Flynny going insane as he's not being able to fit every big hitter ( 😉 ) and there are others who just want to waste the little they have and splash it on defence.

        I'm just trying to understand where people think these clean sheets will be coming from considering the first few gameweeks never hold many shutouts....

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Yes. And here are THREE of them:

          BUR : che -804 WBA 62 tot -785 CPL 109 liv -626 HUD 165

          1. Slam
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Doosra's ticker, formation chatter.
            The FPL tinkering has begun 🙂

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              My ticker is nearly finished! I am way ahead of last year.

              No league to run, you see ...

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      It's the rise of the wing backs.

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'm curious to see how they do. You never know...

    4. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      The usual pre season bravado

    5. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A 4.5 or a 5.0 defender will get you lots more points than a 4.5 or a 5.0 midfielder

      1. Slam
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        If you were playing a 4.5 or 5.0 mid, you were in trouble to begin with

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          That's why you play a 4.5 or 5.0 defender

    6. Dokdok666
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Because several analysis have shown that it is theoretically the formation the offers best value and thus most points.
      Reality though, continues to show that 3-4-3 is the best formation

      1. Slam
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Really though, the sample they get their data from is 38 weeks.
        So maybe a 4-4-2 will work for a dead team or a team later in the year with more settled defences, but will it work in the beginning?

        1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Yep a 4-4-2 will work better if you take out the ability to make transfers. It's the fact that you can shuffle the players who are likely to get the higher scores in better fixtures that renders this theory inaccurate.

  16. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Danilo signing for Chelsea?

    Hmm...

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      The team with the best RB in the league is adding more, meanwhile the team without one is trying to get Alexis Sanchez

      1. Pique boo
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Moses is the best RB in the league?

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Ths guy playing CB.

    2. GertJan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Rudiger, Danilo, defensive mid Bakayoko.

      Chelsea gonna play six at the back next season? lol

  17. Timmay
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Any of you lovely people have a list of all the price reveals up to now?

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      You will find it in hot topics tab.

      Arsenal - Lacazette (FWD) - 10.5m
      Bournemouth - King (FWD) - £7.5m
      Brighton - Knockaert (MID) - 6.0m
      Burnley - Heaton (GK) - 5.0m
      Chelsea - Febregas (MID) - 7.0m
      Crystal Palace - Benteke (FWD) - 8.0m
      Everton - Klaassen (MID) - 7.5m
      Huddersfield - Ince (MID) - 6.0m
      Leicester - Maguire (DEF) - 5.0m
      Liverpool - Salah (MID) - 9.0m
      Man City - Sane (MID) - 8.5m
      Man Utd - Pogba (MID) - 8.0m
      Newcastle - Gayle (FWD) - 6.5m
      Southampton - Redmond (MID) - 6.5m
      Stoke - Allen (MID) - 5.5m
      Swansea - Llorente (FWD) - 7.5m
      Tottenham - Alli (MID) - 9.5m
      Watford - Capoue (MID) - 5.5m
      WBA - McAuley (DEF) - 5.0m
      West Ham - Lanzini (MID) - 7.0m

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        There's more than that now:

        Arsenal - Lacazette (FWD) - 10.5m
        Bournemouth - King (FWD) - £7.5m
        Brighton - Knockaert (MID) - 6.0m
        Burnley - Heaton (GK) - 5.0m
        Chelsea - Fabregas (MID) - 7.0m Moses (DEF) - 6.5m
        Crystal Palace - Benteke (FWD) - 8.0m
        Everton - Klaassen (MID) - 7.5m
        Huddersfield - Ince (MID) - 6.0m
        Leicester - Maguire (DEF) - 5.0m
        Liverpool - Salah (MID) - 9.0m Firmino (FWD) - 8.5m Milner (DEF) - 6.5m
        Man City - Sane (MID) - 8.5m Jesus (FWD) 10.5m
        Man Utd - Pogba (MID) - 8.0m
        Newcastle - Gayle (FWD) - 6.5m
        Southampton - Redmond (MID) - 6.5m
        Stoke - Allen (MID) - 5.5m
        Swansea - Llorente (FWD) - 7.5m
        Tottenham - Alli (MID) - 9.5m
        Watford - Capoue (MID) - 5.5m
        WBA - McAuley (DEF) - 5.0m Brunt (MID) - 5.5m
        West Ham - Lanzini (MID) - 7.0m

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Crap forgot some:

          Arsenal - Lacazette (FWD) - 10.5m
          Bournemouth - King (FWD) - £7.5m
          Brighton - Knockaert (MID) - 6.0m
          Burnley - Heaton (GK) - 5.0m
          Chelsea - Fabregas (MID) - 7.0m Moses (DEF) - 6.5m
          Crystal Palace - Benteke (FWD) - 8.0m
          Everton - Klaassen (MID) - 7.5m
          Huddersfield - Ince (MID) - 6.0m
          Leicester - Maguire (DEF) - 5.0m
          Liverpool - Salah (MID) - 9.0m Firmino (FWD) - 8.5m Milner (DEF) - 6.5m Coutinho (MID) - 9.0m
          Man City - Sane (MID) - 8.5m Jesus (FWD) - 10.5m
          Man Utd - Pogba (MID) - 8.0m Bailly (DEF) - 6.0m
          Newcastle - Gayle (FWD) - 6.5m
          Southampton - Redmond (MID) - 6.5m
          Stoke - Allen (MID) - 5.5m
          Swansea - Llorente (FWD) - 7.5m
          Tottenham - Alli (MID) - 9.5m
          Watford - Capoue (MID) - 5.5m
          WBA - McAuley (DEF) - 5.0m Brunt (MID) - 5.5m
          West Ham - Lanzini (MID) - 7.0m

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          I thought we had Coutinho?

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Yep, my bad. Look below for a cleaner final copy.

      2. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        and don't forget these:

        Bailly (DEF) - 6.0m
        Coutinho (MID) - 9.0m
        Jesus (FWD) - 10.5m
        Milner (DEF) - 6.5m
        Moses (DEF) - 6.5m
        Brunt (MID) - 5.5m
        Firmino (FWD) - 8.5m

        1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Defoe 8.0

  18. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Will these 'elite' defenders be worth the outlay? Yeah they will probably top the defender points list over the whole season but is the points difference big enough? Especially when the starting budget is only 100m? Also consider that you may/should be more willing to transfer between different 4.5-5.5 defs for great form/fixtures, rather than transferring out Alonso and missing his haul..you almost have to keep the elite ones longer, waiting for the haul which actually puts them at the top of the points list..

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'm thinking one elite defender, 2 5.0s and 2 4.5s to rotate

  19. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    CAN WE HAVE A SIDEBAR WITH THE PRICES, PLEASE?

    MARK? ANYONE? 😀

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      This pls

    2. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A sideboob would be better

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Whose?

        1. Hooky
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Hurley from Lost?

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Too big

          2. Slam
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            😆 😆

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I'm always up for a sideboob. Or even full frontal ... 😉

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      😛

  20. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Hey Doos, how's it going?

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Well, I am holding our end up. I promise not to tell any Flanders and Swan jokes ... 😀

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Ah, go on if you want 🙂
        Merde of a day so washing down my few 'a pair of teeths' of Tennents with a lovely Biferno Riserva 2011.
        I know it's not usual but least it's Italian 😉

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          *your usual *

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Excellent!!! I have just enjoyed a rather unusual Chianti, 🙂

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            HIC hic .. (that's the echo)

    2. blueblood
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      haha doos

  21. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Arsenal - Lacazette (FWD) - 10.5m
    Bournemouth - King (FWD) - £7.5m
    Brighton - Knockaert (MID) - 6.0m
    Burnley - Heaton (GK) - 5.0m
    Chelsea - Fabregas (MID) - 7.0m Moses (DEF) - 6.5m
    Crystal Palace - Benteke (FWD) - 8.0m
    Everton - Klaassen (MID) - 7.5m
    Huddersfield - Ince (MID) - 6.0m
    Leicester - Maguire (DEF) - 5.0m
    Liverpool - Salah (MID) - 9.0m Firmino (FWD) - 8.5m Milner (DEF) - 6.5m Coutinho (MID) - 9.0m
    Man City - Sane (MID) - 8.5m Jesus (FWD) - 10.5m
    Man Utd - Pogba (MID) - 8.0m Bailly (DEF) - 6.0m
    Newcastle - Gayle (FWD) - 6.5m
    Southampton - Redmond (MID) - 6.5m
    Stoke - Allen (MID) - 5.5m
    Swansea - Llorente (FWD) - 7.5m
    Tottenham - Alli (MID) - 9.5m
    Watford - Capoue (MID) - 5.5m
    WBA - McAuley (DEF) - 5.0m Brunt (MID) - 5.5m
    West Ham - Lanzini (MID) - 7.0m

    Enjoy.

    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Legend!

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Boom. Thank you. 😀

    3. tm245
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      West Brom muscling their way into the Big Six with two announcements already.

    4. ihateramsey2
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      liverpool 4 announcement WTF

      1. Kun Tozser
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Twitter voting

    5. Garlana
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Perfect! I literally logged on just to check for something like this and there it was...

    6. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Coutinho and Firmino actually decently priced.

      If Jesus is £10.5m then goodness knows what Aguero and Kane will be.

      1. penman26
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Aguero could be 10.5 which would make things interesting

    7. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Pretty good pricing overall.

      I look forward to seeing Aguero Lukaku & Defoe's prices.

      1. Frank Black
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Well, Gabriel's price has gone from 9 to 10.5 so Lukaku will probably be priced at 11.5 or 12.

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Sounds fair.

          Jesus was starting almost every game for City. Did you expect him below 10.5?!

  22. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Swansea adopted a bullish stance over Sigurdsson. But Everton aren't going away. Feels like a matter of when, not if, they get their man. - reporter from the Guardian

    1. ronty
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      him remaining at Swansea far more important..

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Why would Swansea sell Siggy?

      Without him they'd be relegated and lose hundreds of millions. Apparently he likes it there and wants to stay anyway. He's already departed Swansea once, and it went terribly.

  23. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Wow, how come Couts is only 9m?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Too much complaining.

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Was sure he'd be 10m, great price especially compared to Salah.

        1. 32chickens
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Shush...

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      His average shot position is on the half-way line 😀 Whilst he's a very talented player, his shooting can be erratic so he's inconsistent in FPL.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Does consistency matter if you plan to own him for more than 5 GWs?

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Probably not.

          He's a player we need xG for really. I'm torn on him.

      2. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        13 goals and 7 assists despite missing many games. I love players with 3 shots per game.

  24. ronty
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Like the Free Hit Chip but it is about time that DMF's start getting notice from FPL towers.

    Prices might look like template formation will not happen but the same always looks like the case and a template always gets formed.

    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      On first inspection it's an interesting chip, purely in that it's not straight forward and has a bit of tactical gameplay involved.
      Not for the purist I'd argue but I think it gives the advantage back to the serious player..... I think....

  25. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    With these prices its goodbye to our happy notions that we were all going to go without players from the newly promoted clubs!

    Half our squads will have to be made up of them by the looks of it!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Plenty of imaginary RMTs don't have any.

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      If you find yourself in that position downgrade a big hitter and spread the cash.

      You can still make a great team, you just have to find the hidden gems. This is raw FPL at its old best 😀

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        That's right. All my fake teams using guesstimated prices have only had 2 or 3 minimum priced players. I guess if you don't want to spread the cash, that's your choice as a manager

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Eg get a 6.0 defender instead of Pogba, and you have 2.0 to spare. (Patronisation unintended)

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Those Chelsea defenders were freaks last season. We won't see 6.0m defenders hitting those 170 levels again soon imo.

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              Well not necessarily. But I'm not claiming a 6.0 def will well outscore Pogba, though they could. I'm backing you up saying that they could provide better value when combined with an upgrade of another player, or better value outright.

  26. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    I hope Butland is £4.5m.

    Reckon he's going to be the go to keeper if he's that price,.

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'd be surprised

    2. Frank Black
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      He didn't play for almost the entire season. They'd be insane to price him at 5M.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Why? It's not like he was dropped.

    3. Jimmy Boy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      With those fixtures? Think I'd rather get him on a WC

  27. @FPL_Chess
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Anyone considered only having sub-£10 million players? Captain choice wouldn't be so obvious but you'd have strength in depth.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I've thought about it in the past.

        Just do it and call it your strategy for good or bad. Either way it's playing the game your way and that's all good IMO.

      2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Bad IMO. I can understand having just one premium player, but none? No way.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Not sure about that.

          Maybe the right way to think about it is that he's picking next years premium picks at this years prices. An awful lot of premium picks begin life in the prem at sub 10mill....

    • pokern1nja09
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'd love to say I was interested in Milner, but I know I won't be able to afford another 6.5 def unless I play a 5-3-2 formation.