Moving Target

Moving Target – Cuco Martina

Everton’s busy summer recruitment drive continued with the signing of former Southampton defender Cuco Martina on a free transfer.

The 27-year-old penned a three-year contract with the Toffees and looks set to compete with Mason Holgate and Jonjoe Kenny for the starting spot at right-back in the absence of the injured Seamus Coleman.

Speaking to the club’s official website, Everton manager Ronald Koeman expressed his delight at being able to bring in the versatile defender:

“Cuco Martina is an experienced player who can perform in different positions at the back, which is important. It’s also important, with the number of games we will face in the coming campaign, that we have strength and competition in the squad. I brought the player to Southampton, so I know what he can do for us here and this is why I’ve now brought him to Everton. He is a player who will strengthen our squad and be able to play in different positions when that’s needed, too.”

The History

After spending his youth career at Dutch side Feyenoord, Martina’s first experience of senior football came at lower league side RBC Roosendaal, where he spent three seasons.

Martina then moved to Eredivisie outfit RKC Waalwijk and made 43 appearances between 2011 and 2013 before joining FC Twente in the summer of 2013.

He featured 48 times over the next two seasons, registering one goal and one assist, playing both at centre-back and right-back, before moving to Southampton in July 2015.

Martina played 15 league matches for Saints in 2015/16, producing one goal and one assist, but his first-team opportunities were limited under Claude Puel last season, making just nine league appearances.

The defender plays his international football for Curaçao and has racked up 32 caps since making his debut back in August 2011.

The Prospects

The serious knee injury suffered by Coleman meant that Everton were always likely to be in the market for an experienced right-back this summer and Martina now looks set to push hard for a place in Koeman’s starting XI.

The 27-year-old stands at six foot one, is reasonably comfortable on the ball and also boasts decent athleticism.

While his statistics suggest he’s not a huge attacking threat, his wonder goal against Arsenal shows he does possess some technical ability and is perhaps more comfortable at getting forward from right-back than Holgate, who is naturally a centre-back.

Holgate took over from Coleman for the final nine matches last season, while Kenny only featured once last term and is expected to be behind both players in the pecking order.

Although both Martina and Holgate offer little goal threat, having averaged a shot every 591 and 228.83 minutes respectively last season, they provide a cheaper route into the Toffees’ backline – both have been valued at 4.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Michael Keane and Ashley Williams, who are expected to form the centre-back partnership, both come in at 5.5, while left-back Leighton Baines is priced at 6.0.

There could be a small chance Koeman looks to experiment with a three-man defence though, as he did at times last season, which could see the likes of Tom Davies or James McCarthy, or even a more attacking player, fill in at right wing-back.

In goal, Jordan Pickford is available at 5.0, but with so many 4.5 options to choose from, and given Everton’s daunting opening schedule (STO, mci, che, TOT, mun), he could well be ignored by many Fantasy managers when drawing up their Gameweek 1 squads.

But in a team which is pushing to break into the top six, the prospect of a starting defender at 4.5 will certainly be of interest when the fixture list turns favourably from Gameweek 6 onwards.

We perhaps shouldn’t bank on any assists from either player, though, with Martina only registering a key pass every 118.2 minutes last term, slightly better than Holgate (152.55).

Given the lack of attacking potential and the likelihood of clean sheets being at a premium over the opening five Gameweeks, the first month of the season will be more useful to see which player establishes themselves as first choice.

The additions of Pickford and Keane should improve an Everton defence that managed to keep 13 clean sheets last season, so with Coleman not expected to return until 2018, the starting right-back could provide FPL bosses with a great value option.

If that happens to be Martina, expect him to be a popular Fantasy asset once that tough start is out of the way.

Further Reference

Cuco Martina Wikipedia

Cuco Martina Transfer Markt Page

Cuco Martina You Tube Highlights

1,921 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Is glen johnson nailed?

    1. dicky2014
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Rotation with Bardsley.

  2. The Seagulls and the Trawle…
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Hi there, What do you think of my first draft:

    Forster/Foster
    Cedric, Valencia, Trippier, Yedlin, Mee
    Willian, Zaha, Coutinho, Chadli, Carroll
    Lukaku, Jesus, Gabbiadini

    2M in the bank.

    Will probably upgrade my midfield, not sure about Coutinho being the best value for money there. Also have to be sure Gabb will get the nod in attack. Anyway, let me know what you think.

    1. The Wise Owl
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Mane over Coutinho

      1. The Seagulls and the Trawle…
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Was thinking that, but there's the injury recovery question mark. Was thinking more about Alli/Eriksen.

    2. Gashead9
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Gabbi not nailed on to start

    3. foley200
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Need alli or eriksen to cover lack of Kane

  3. red forever
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Best points potential?

    A: Aké, Alonso, Bailly, Lukaku, Loftus-Cheek, Fletcher

    B: Francis, Walker, Azpilicueta, Firmino, Phillips, Austin

    1. FPLzebub
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A

      1. The Head-Ake
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        A

    2. Chardee McDennis
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A once you plan on benching the last 2.

  4. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Best 5.5m midfielder? Herrera? Fraser?

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Mooy? On all set pieces

      1. chaboi1998
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Any others? He doesn't score many

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Atsu

    3. Chardee McDennis
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Like the look of Fraser at 5.5. If i didnt have Stanislas already id get him myself

    4. Pegboy
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Henderson. Hear me know; believe me later.

  5. The Seagulls and the Trawle…
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Also:

    Chadli or Phillips?
    Will Jay Rodriguez get the nod ahead of Rondon?

    1. Agger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Hold on, I'll text Pulis on WhatsApp now.

      1. Carlton P
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Just whatsapp him instead

    2. whoracle
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I would say that Pulis is going to stick with Rondon upfront and playing JayR behind him as a "10".

      1. The Seagulls and the Trawle…
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        So jay Rodriguez will fight for a start with Chadli?

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Fight?
          My money is on Chadli, the fkn size if him 😉

        2. whoracle
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Rondon
          Chadli-JayR-Phillips

    3. Chardee McDennis
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Chadli if he goes to Swansea. Dont see him playing much for Pulis. Lots of rumours of a falling out

    4. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Apparently Chadli and Rondon are not in the Best of terms with Pulis...

      1. The Seagulls and the Trawle…
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Did not know that, thx for the info. Chadli to Swansea to replace Gylfi?

      2. DeathoftheParty
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Great times to punt on jrod then!

  6. pm17
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    RMT Plz need advice

    Foster
    Lindelof Cedri Mee 4.0 4.0
    Zaha KDB Alli Siggy 4.5
    Lacazette Lukaku Gabbiadini

    would appreciate any advice

    1. QGOONER
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Need to invest in your defense and Gabbiadini might lose his place to Charlie Austin...

      1. pm17
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        yes defence looks weak...thnx

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Downgrade Siggy, sell Rondon...upgrade defenders

      1. Wild Card this!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Sorry Gabby

      2. pm17
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        got it...noone wants gabby lol...thnx for the advice

  7. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Mama Sakho linked to any team(s)?

    1. DON BE ZILLY
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Sevilla.

  8. passdpuck
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    I don't really know who's nailed, but this is what I came up with to get things started. Thoughts?

    Foster / Elliot
    Trippier / Alonzo / McAuley / Daniels / Rangel
    Sanchez / Alli / Phillips / Redmond /Loftus-cheek
    Lukaku / Firmino / Gayle

    Thanks in advance.

    1. FPLzebub
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Very punty.

    2. MGD
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Think it looks good. Maybe downgrade Sanchez to KDB and upg. Gayle for Defoe or the like

  9. MGD
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Foster / Myhill
    Cedric / Trippier / Francis / Dunk / 4.0
    Sané / Ramsey / Tadic / Willian / RLC
    Kane / Lukaku / Lacazzette

    G2G?

    Rate out of 10.

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Good backs and forwards. I'd downgrade at least one forward to upgrade midfield.

      1. MGD
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Too scared to go without Kane and the other 2 has such good opening fixtures so it is a though one...

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Not tough at all. Lacazette never played in PL coming from a poor standard league. Will take a while to adapt.

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Would try to fit Man Utd asset among defenders thb

    3. pm17
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      seems top heavy bro...ramey and willian doubtful starters...city midfield except kdb cant be predicted...
      defence needs one upgrade to play 3 at the back in my opinion...

  10. pokern1nja09
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Pedro worth the extra over Willian?

    1. Pigeon
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No i dont think so and willian could well retake his place at right wing when Hazard comes back if he plays well

    2. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      In the long run he might, when Hazard comes back. In the short run, I think not

  11. kalmoffit
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    So, Lacazette will reduce Sanchez's points and Lukaku will increase Pogba's points.

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Yip. Cos Sanchez will be at Bayern.

      1. kalmoffit
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Until that happens, and I don't know nor care if it does, he's in my team.

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Mine too. But I hope he goes for the extra options that'll bring.

      2. 7alwachi
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Ancelotti said that Bayern couldn't afford Alexis so they went for James

      3. QGOONER
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        PSG & Arsenal are the only options, Bayern have been out

      4. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        K-H Rummenigge has confirmed that Bayern are no longer interested.

        That was a little while after Uli Hoeneß said they're only interested in younger players, rather than spending huge fees on "veterans".

    2. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Becuase Sanchez always used to be the main man and play as a striker but with Laca coming in, he might have to turn provider and play on the wing. Pogba was always the provider and with Lukaku up front, it's likely that more chances created by Pogba will be converted.

      1. kalmoffit
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        It was only last season he played there. If Lacazette is any good, Sanchez could get more points.

    3. Make Arrows Green Again
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Sanchez will steal Robben's points.

    4. J T
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      So you guys are implying that Lukaku is better at finishing than Ibra?

  12. popcoin
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Would love to hear the community's thoughts on:

    1) Lallana at 7.5. Being overlooked? 6% ownership compared to Coutinho's 30%, who is 9.0. I feel like he should be nailed to start behind the front 3 of Mane-Firm-Cout. And had a great season, only 30 points behind Coutinho.

    2) Kane. Will he continue his slow starts to the season?

    1. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Lallana isn't nailed at all and Coutinho likely to play in the middle 3 with Salah coming in the front 3. Huge rotatio risk especially at that price. Time will tell, but are we brave enough to go without?

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No gaurantees Lallana is nailed.

      Not necessarily.

    3. popcoin
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Interesting. Fair enough, didn't realise Lallana was such a rotation risk. Makes sense if Klopp if building depth to cope with UCL. Cheers

    4. A.T
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Kane has had slow starts but he's also had a summer tournament every year since he broke into the side. That will certainly have had a knock on effect in the early gw's.
      This season however, Spurs have Wembley to contend with and their record there is not great. How will it pan out? Who knows but it's dangerous to go without.

  13. The Head-Ake
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Foster
    Lindelof - Ake - Cedric - Trippier
    Eriksen - Willian - Cout - Alli
    Laca/Morata - Lukaku. (Elliot - RLC - Crouch- Rangel).

    I decided to go against the band-wagon and go with both Alli and Eriksen to cover up for Kane. Can always downgrade one MF to upgrade Erik/Alli to Kane ( Laca to Kane). Clever?

    1. popcoin
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Looks good. Basically same team for me except Kane and KDB instead of Lacazette and Eriksen.

  14. Pigeon
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Bottomed. RMT

    Foster
    Milner Lindelof Cedric Dawson
    KDB Eriksen Willian Zaha
    Lukaku Lacazette
    (Fabianski Tarroll Quaner Mee)

    0mil itb

    1. pm17
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      seems like a good 442...
      willian may not be nailed on tho
      liverpool fixtures dont suggest cleansheets for milner imo

  15. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    RMT

    Foster | Elliott
    Alonso | Trippier | Lindelof | Cedric | Hunemeir
    Mane | Sane | Zaha | Fraser | Carroll
    Kane | Lacazette | Gayle

    Help much appretiated

  16. Junior ⚽
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on Tammy Abraham 5.5

    1. Make Arrows Green Again
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I really like the look of him. Watch him in pre-season. He's hardly up against stiff competition for a starting berth, especially with Llorente injured.

      1. Junior ⚽
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        How many games will he start for or how long is Llorente out for?

        1. Make Arrows Green Again
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Fractured his arm about 3 weeks ago so it's a race to be fit in time. Even if he comes back, both can play in the same team as they are quite different players, but if he does displace Abraham then Abraham might only get 1-2 games.

    2. Gashead9
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      one to watch I think, but not keen on opening fixtures

    3. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      He must be high on the list of "well that might work but I've never seen him" players.

  17. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A - sane+gayle
    B - ritchie+firmino+1.0

  18. MkhitaryanDembeleHybrid
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    What do ya make of this lot?

    Foster Myhill
    Lindelof Trippier Cedric Mee Yedlin
    Alli Sane Fabregas Tadic RLC
    Lukaku Jesus Firmino

    Where does a man improve this selection? What can go wrong?

  19. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Kane, Lukaku, Aguero, Lacazette, Jesus

    I'm dead set on having three out of the above but keep flip-flopping between all of them. Which ones would you have?

    1. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Add Morata on to that list too now

    2. Gashead9
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Kane & Kaku

  20. marcus2704
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Could anyone be so kind as to RMT please?

    Foster - Myhill

    Cedric - Daniels - Tomkins - Mee - Simpson

    Alli - Willian - Phillips - Tadic - RLC

    Kane - Lukaku - Lacazette

    1. MGD
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      How nailed-on is Tomkins?

  21. davies
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Foster Elliot
    Trippier Lindelof Cedric Francis 4.0
    Alli Coutinho Sane Willian RLC
    Kane Lukaku 4.5

    😎

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Good team and good example of a 4-4-2 IMO.

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I would consider though:

        Foster Elliot
        Trippier Lindelof Cedric Daniels Naughton
        Alli Coutinho Sane Ritchie 4.5
        Kane Lukaku 4.5

        Reason being is that SOU / BOU / SWA is a good defensive rotation so you can put out a nailed and decent back four every week.

        1. davies
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Willian > Ritchie by far though...

          1. diesel001
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            It is about combos though. You're not looking at 1vs1 you are looking at the combo you can afford and does that combo beat another combo.

            Willian will lose his place (that is if Conte doesn't play Fabregas as well) to Hazard when he comes back. All of the side above are pretty much nailed first teamers.

      2. davies
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Possibly 352 too

        1. diesel001
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          I think RLC is going to be on the bench seeing what De Boer has been saying. Actually prefer Carroll as the 4.5m midfielder now.

    2. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Rangel in there and very much my team, who'd you use for 4.5 though?

      1. davies
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Fletcher I think... Doesn't really matter though tbf

        You? Why Rangel too?

        1. The Head-Ake
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          With the bandwagon tbd. People gimme opinions too? My post is up there.

  22. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    How high up does Fraser play?

    1. Junior ⚽
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      1.63 m above ground

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Lofty

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Wing. Depends.

    3. Jonesfromthere
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Not nailed

  23. Egyptian Giza
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    THIS IS DEF THE MOST COMPLETE TEAM EVER RIGHT?
    DE GEA
    MONREAL AZPI DANN
    TADIC ALLI WILLIAN ZAHA
    BENTEKE KANE(C) JESUS

    1. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Hardly. Missing 4 players

    2. The Rumour Mill
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No need to shout.

    3. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Bench?
      And please stop shouting? 🙂

    4. chaboi1998
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Ban

    5. Egyptian Giza
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      SORRY GUYS, FORGET THE BENCH FROM THE EXCITEMENT. (AS IF IT MATTERS ANYWAY LOL)

      ELLIOT | T. CARROL | MARRIAPA | RANGEL

  24. foley200
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Willian or Ramsey or both or none?
    Whatcha think?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Ramsey

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Neither for me. At that price, prefer Zaha and Stanislas

      1. The Seagulls and the Trawle…
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Willian all the way, at least until Hazard is back in the team

  25. popcoin
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A) Alli and King/Defoe

    B) Stanislas and Kane

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A as cheaper

  26. Tomerick
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    I keep getting swayed between pogba and Mkhi. Who's a better pick?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Pogba for me. 100% nailed.

    2. A.T
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Both are poor picks imo. That may well change of course but at this moment in time there is no reason to suggest otherwise.

  27. seewhyaxe
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Trying a (K)anchez 343 draft:

    Foster/Myhill

    Daniels/Dunk/Cedric/Trippier/Rangel

    Sane/Willian/Sanchez/RLC/Carroll

    Kane/Kaku/Gabbiadini

  28. FPLtfs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Is Coutinho a that much better option than Firmino?

    Who do you like best?
    a) 4-4-2 with Coutinho and a weak bench (Only Carrol playing)
    b) 4-3-3 with Firmino (Carrol + RLC on the bench) + 0.5 itb.

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A

      1. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        So you fancy Cout to do well from the off?

        1. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Well I haven't looked at their fixtures properly but my idea for Pool players is to wait and assess them.

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A. Coutinho gets more points for goals and potential clean sheets.

      1. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        True. And set pieces too. Don't think a better bench + 0.5 itb will be a better option?

    3. Jimmy Boy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A, Coutinho is a better option as he is likely to get the same if not more goals + assists than Firmino, and mids get more points for those than strikers do

      1. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Yep, good points. But a stronger bench + 0.5 itb is tempting too 🙂

  29. rnrd
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Sanchez will end up at PSG

  30. Jimmy Boy
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    A) Aguero and Alli
    B) Kane and Sane

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      b