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Analysing The Dream Teams

This article takes a look at the end of year ‘dream teams’ of the best 11 players in each of the last 15 seasons for clues on the best assets to invest in and key strategies  to adopt this time around.

For this I’ve used data from 2002/03 to 2013/14  collected by FPL Discovery, as well as my own research for the last three seasons.

Here are the key points of interest I’ve learned from this research:

Formation

Nine out of 15 of the previous season dream teams form a 3-4-3 formation, while 3-5-2 is represented four times, and 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 one each. This suggests that 3-4-3 is historically a winning formation within the game.

Ceiling

Finding a “definite ceiling”  of a maximum score for a player is near impossible, but we can to some degree discuss relative ceilings, which look something like this for each position:

Goalkeepers: 12-15 points, which would entail a buckload of saves, a clean sheet, bonus returns and possibly a penalty save as well.

Defenders: 15 points, from a clean sheet, bonus and a goal.

Midfielders and Forwards: 15-20 points, though a combination of multiple goals, assists and bonus returns.

Goalkeepers Ceiling

Looking at the last 15 seasons the highest tally from a goalie in the dream team is Brad Friedel, who scored 187 points in 2002/3. The lowest is Burnley’s Tom Heaton, whose 2016/17 finish of 149 points was enough to make the dream team.

The average is 167 points for a goalkeeper, which equates to 4.4 points per match should they play all 38 games. Among this season’s stoppers three regular starters are achieving or bettering this ppm threshold: Manchester United’s David De Gea (5.2), Nick Pope of Burnley (4.8) and Manchester City’s Ederson (4.4). Given Pope is soon to face competition from a returning Tom Heaton De Gea looks set to be this season’s Dream Team stopper.

Defenders ceiling

The highest tally from a defender is 196pts, achieved by Joleon Lescott in 2007/08 and John Terry in 2004/05. The lowest is 138pts, which William Gallas achieved in 2002/03

The average is 165pts, which equates to 4.3 points per match should they play all 38 games. Among this season’s defenders, 23 are achieving or bettering this ppm figure. But with many of this group not being regular starters, such as United’s Luke Shaw, or succumbing to long term injury, such as City’s Benjamin Mendy, the pool is reduced. Notable regular starting defenders this season with ‘dream team’ form include Chelsea duo Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta, Manchester United’s Antonio Valencia and Phil Jones and Arsenal’s Shkodran Mustafa and Sead Kolasinac (although the latter’s starts have reduced recently).

Midfielders ceiling

The highest total from a midfielder in previous dreamteams is 284pt, hit by FPL legend Frank Lampard in 2009/10. The lowest is 159, achieved by Damien Duff, Steweat Downing and Paul Scholes in 2004/05.

The average is 200pts, which equates to 5.2 points per match should they play all 38 games. This season 12 players are achieving or beating this ppm threshold. All bar Newcastle’s Henri Saivet are regular starters who have been largely injury free, which indicates the average could be high among midfielders in the 2017/18 dream team. This also indicates that a five man midfield formation could trump the traditional 3-4-3 this year.

Barring injury Liverpool’s Mohamed Salah‘s 8 ppm and Manchester City’s Raheem Sterling‘s 7.3 ppm make them shoo-ins for this season’s dream team. Should they also remain injury free United’s Paul Pogba (6.3 ppm) and City’s Kevin De Bruyne (6.2) could also make the cut.

Forwards ceiling

The highest total from a striker in previous dreamteams is 295pts, hit by Luis Suarez in 2013/14, and the lowest is 167, achieved by Louis Saha in 2003/04).

The average is 205 points, which equates to 5.4 points per match should they play all 38 games. Among this season’s striker crop just two beat or match this ppm threshold, Sergio Aguero (6.5) and Harry Kane (6.4). This further indicates that this season’s dream team is unlikely to see a three man frontline.

Pricing and Three Player Rule

When looking through the dreamteams of the last three seasons one thing is pretty clear: its called ‘dream team’ for a reason. It’s almost always impossible to get a team consisting of these players, because the price would be too steep. In addition, they often contain more than three players from the same club.

For example, in 2016/17 the Dream Team was worth 91m and included four Chelsea players and in 2014/15 it was worth a hefty 88m.

The 2015/16 season when Leicester’s cut price stars won the league, the dream team was worth 76m and was a rare example of an affordable elite side, although still not realistic to own as it included four Arsenal players.

Therefore the dream team and dream attainable team are two different beasts.

Gaps and Value 

The gaps between the “out of this world performers”, such as Suarez  or Lampard and the dream team low and average scorers also shows how  defenders and goalies are more valuable pound for pound than midfielders and attackers. It also leads me to question why high performing attackers’ prices increase by quite so much at the start of a new season.

As an example I have compared two Spurs players, keeper Hugo Lloris and striker Kane. The French stopper has produced ppm scores of between 3.55 and 3.9 for the last five seasons and has had a starting price of 5.5m a year, which equates to 0.7 points per million during his time in England. Meanwhile, Kane saw a huge price bump this year to 12.5m but is still not offering the same value as Lloris, despite excelling with ppm tallies of 6.6, 5.5 and 8.0 over the last three seasons. But in terms of price per million he would have to be getting 8.75 ppm this season to provide the same value. In essence he would need to put in a record breaking performance and beat Suarez’s 295 ceiling this year to be considered worthy of his price tag. Obviously, it is also worth mentioning that Kane’s value is increased for Fantasy managers due to the captaincy.

Caveat:  When analysing dream teams we need to be aware of its limitations regarding formation. The allowed formations of the game allow the dreamteam to end end up with a minimum of three defenders, a minimum of two midfielders and 1 striker. This means that defences “by design” will carry more “deadwood”, bringing the average down. A perfect example of this is 2008/09 when the formation was 4-5-1 – meaning only one striker (Nicholas Anelka) managed to outscore Bosingwa’s 156pts. And also in 2004/05 when Henry and Johnson were the only strikers able to outscore Duff, Downing and Scholes tally of 159pts.

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  1. J0E
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    • 14 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Fantastic analysis. Really useful in terms of spotting trends each season.

    So far it is clear that to you have to break the bank to get a striker and that the five man midfield is key.

  2. BC1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Great read, thanks.
    Kane has to captained to get value for money. And I wonder am I wasting transfers all season by swapping goalkeepers around to suit fixtures, when I could just have DDG and as a fire and forget? Also I never had Sterling or Salah who are models for this years dream team, but in order to try climb ranks now, I can't ever have them, and must go Mane and Aguero route instead.
    Interesting stuff, good work.

    1. reekster
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I wonder the same about defence: should you just be playing Otamendi, Jones and Alonso each week, with two very cheap players making up numbers?
      Those three teams (City, Utd, Chelsea) seem to be able to strangle the life out of most games, either through stubborn defending or possession, and are more likely to create scoring opportunities for defenders.

      1. reekster
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks for the article, btw! Very interesting read.

    2. WesMantooth
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Of course it's been possible to outscore DDG's haul this season by rotating two goalies, but my guess is that very few managers have been able to do it.

      1. BC1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Very true, what a waste of transfers!

        1. Rojo's Modern Life
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Rotation is not the same as transfers.

  3. Pranav Santhosh
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Thanks for writing this article. So far this season I've been resisting the 5 man midfield and instead tried the likes of Kane aguero morata and lukaku but this article really shows why this year is the year of a 3-5-2 with flexibility needed to go 4-4-2 with a decent 4th defender and 3-4-3 with a decent 3rd forward

  4. minges
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    This is a great article. Well done!

    I'm happy to see some of my regular starters in the list for projected top players this year too 😉

    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Alot depends on injury or rotation which is why its good to see the points per match average.

      So for example Pogba may not make the dream team due to missing lots of games, but his form when he plays is dream team quality.

      It also really hammers home what an asset KDB is. Ignored by so many yet if he stays fit he'll be among the 11 players of the year, on current form. I'm asking myself - why isn't he in my team?

      1. WesMantooth
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        I agree, a combination of points per match and points per million should weigh heavily when selecting players. KDB is a great example of a player that scores well in both categories.

      2. fusen
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Grrr KDB

        https://anewpla.net/fpl/report-test/ownedtable.php?id=16628
        PPG Owned - 3.4
        PPG Not Owned - 7.4

        He scores 10,10 I get him in he scored 3,6,3 then I swap him out and he gets 12

        He definitely gets points but maybe it is a case of just getting him and leaving him in.

  5. Kane Toads
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    • 11 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    A great article! Thanks.

  6. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Nice article and interesting to see this year’s trend.

      Let’s hope the author of THIS community article, doesn’t feel the need to mention it 10 times.

    • finnish92
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      • 6 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      What do you think about Choupo-Moting in Stoke? I have had him in my team for the whole season and he has not deliver and in some games he has been on the bench. Know when they sacked Huges, do you think he will deliver and play most of the games? In the member function "rate my team", they predict that he will deliver and he is also very cheap.

      What's your thought about him? Do you prefer other players before him in the price-class?

      1. WesMantooth
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Ignoring underlying statistics and current situation at Stoke?
        Overall a decent season and a decent pick.
        80points in 21 appearances speaks of a point per match average of 3,8. His price at the start of the season was 5.5. That entails a value of 0,69 points pr million. Compared to other options with decent amount of playing time and similar prices (5.0-6.0) he'd be deemed the 7th most valuable player in this bracket thus far.
        Gross: 0,84points pr million
        Young: 0,84points pr million
        Doucoure: 0,82points pr million
        Lingard: 0,80points pr million
        Richarlison: 0,75points pr million
        Atsu: 0,7Points pr million

    • Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Great read !

    • Blame It On Rio-ddermorten
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Great read! Do you also happen to know how well the "dream teams" would have done in terms of overall rank? For instance, the current Dream Team, assuming they captained Salah every round would have outscored the OR no. 1 by more than 70 points. Is this true for the score at the end of each season as well?

      1. WesMantooth
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        The dreamteam (with MVP as C) beat the OR no.1 the first 3 years of FPL, but has'nt since. Probably goes to show how much better us managers have gotten. Dreamteam (with MVP as C) usually gets close and should get a good OR. The best its been beaten was in 09/10 when the winner finished with 217pts more.

        1. Chaserz
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          MvP or RvP?

        2. Blame It On Rio-ddermorten
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Cheers.

    • doy
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Great piece, thanks for this!

    • Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks for putting this together WesMantooth it is an intriguing read.

    • diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Nice work. Nice name too.

      LOUD NOISES!

    • RedLightning
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      • 13 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Otamendi is surely a shoo-in for the Dream Team, along with Alonso and Azpilicueta.
      The other defenders mentioned may not make it if the formation is 3-5-2 or 3-4-3, which it probably will be.
      Valencia and Jones might stand a chance, but I would be very surprised if Mustafi or Kolasinac makes it.

      Pogba is unlikely to make the cut in my opinion.
      Mahrez and Eriksen should have a much better chance of joining Salah, Sterling and De Bruyne in a Dream Team midfield power five.

      Firmino could challenge Aguero for the second forward spot, or possibly even be the third forward in a 3-4-3.

      If the Dream Team was subject to an initial price cap of 83.5m however then it would probably look rather different.

      1. RedLightning
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        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        The current overall Dream Team is:
        de Gea
        Alonso, Azpilicueta, Otamendi
        Salah (C), Sterling, De Bruyne, Mahrez, Eriksen
        Kane, Aguero.

        This has a current cost of 5.9+7.3+7.0+6.5+10.1+8.9+10.2+8.6+9.3+12.9+11.7 = 98.4
        and a GW1 cost of 98.4 - (0.4+0.3+0.5+1.0+1.1+0.9+0.2+0.1-0.2+0.4+0.2) = 98.4 - 4.8 = 93.6,
        which is 10.1 over the maximum GW1 budget of 83.5.

        Firmino could be substituted for Aguero in order to satisfy the 3 players maximum per club rule, and the GW1 cost would then be 90.6, but this would still be 7.1 over budget.

        A dream team costing no more than 83.5 in GW1 would require a few changes of personnel, and perhaps also a change of formation.

        The dream 15-man squad which also included 4 bench players who could be auto-subbed when required and whose GW1 cost was no more than 100.0 would be different again.

        1. WesMantooth
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Not sure if downgrading Aguero to Firmino would be the best way to make the dream team attainable. If you remove Eriksen and Aguero, and replace them with Gross and Jones, You get a 4-5-1 with 39 points less than the current dream team. However, this was an attainable team at the start of the season, as it would have left 17m to distribute across the bench.

          1. RedLightning
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            6 years, 3 months ago

            **Corrections to my earlier comment:
            The GW1 cost of the current Dream Team at GW1 should be 98.4 - 4.9 = 93.5, which is 10.0 over the maximum GW1 budget for 11 players in 3-5-2 formation.
            After substituting Firmino for Aguero, the GW1 cost should be 90.5, which is 7.0 over budget.
            GW1 prices are of course all multiples of 0.5.

            Firmino has only 2 points fewer than Aguero to date; this was only suggested in order to make the smallest reduction in points whilst complying with the maximum 3 players per club rule, before considering the budget.

            Further changes would be necessary in order to make the team affordable in GW1.
            I agree that replacing Eriksen and Aguero with Gross and Jones would be the best way to do this.
            This would fit the GW1 budget for 11 players in 4-5-1 formation exactly.

            1. WesMantooth
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              The only potential flaw with my reply is that I'm not able to state, with 100% certainly, that there was two 4.5m strikers available within the game ahead of GW1. If there was two such options, McBurnie-Quaner-and the likes, one could have started the season with 17m on the bench, making said team an affordable one.

              1. RedLightning
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                • 13 Years
                6 years, 3 months ago

                de Gea (5.5), 4.0
                Alonso (7.0), Azpilicueta (6.5), Otamendi (5.5), Jones (5.0), 4.0
                Salah (9.0), Sterling (8.0), De Bruyne (10.0), Mahrez (8.5), Gross (5.5)
                Kane (12.5), 4.5, 4.5.

                Total cost at GW1: 100.0

                A number of forward options, including McBurnie and Quaner, started at 4.5. They both played in GW1.

                (Some of my earlier replies, which I have since deleted, were incorrect).

                1. WesMantooth
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Well look at that. Beautiful team!

        2. dimitros
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          • 7 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Don't forget that most of the teams have currently a total value of more than 100 mil. This mean we can afford a budget of more than 100 mil.

          1. RedLightning
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            • 13 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            The teams I quoted costing 93.5 and 96.5 in GW1 (110.0 and 107.0 including the bench) would cost 98.4 and 95.8 (114.9 and 112.3 including the bench) at current prices.

    • Quagmire11811
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      4-5-1 Kane lone striker. you can have a brilliant team.

      1. HashAttack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        4 players with a higher score than Kane ... all costing 3M less

        Then there is that player everyone worries is too expensive .. .the one that costs 5.5M less that Kane and is only 9 points behind (Alonso)

        1. RedLightning
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          • 13 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Only 3 players with a higher score than Kane, and one of them was only 2.5 cheaper.

          A squad including the top 3 highest scoring defenders, the top 4 highest scoring mids, the top scoring goalkeeper and Harry Kane was affordable for GW1 (see my reply to Wesmantooth above).

          The team has to include at least one forward and cannot include more than 5 mids - there is nothing to be gained by leaving Harry out.

          1. WesMantooth
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            Your absolutely right. The money has to be spent somewhere. Harry has been a "must" because none of the other premium assets have performed close to their ceiling.

      2. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        You're right, and I have 😀

    • noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Excellent piece, always like articles like this.

      We all always seem to ignore keepers and defence, Alonso and Azpilicueta were obvious amazing reliable choices before the start of this season, yet very few will double up on them.

      We know what DDG does, as he does it every year- especially with Mou as a manager.

      Captaincy changes a lot when it comes to attackers, but having got Otamendi Alonso and Jones myself, I can assure you it is a great weight off my mind, only having to worry about mids and attackers. Will try to remember this for next season!

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        The problem with defenders you have is they are the same as mine and a whole host of FPL managers.
        It means all the work going into the forwards and mids.
        Salah and Sterling more or less shoe ins and Kane or no Kane does not leave much room to maneuver.
        A fairly boring FPl this year.

    • LFC4EVER
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      WC - Am I GTG?

      Pope - Adrian
      Alonso - Joens - Mustafi - Stones - Kelly
      Salah - Sterling -Mahrez - Lingard - Carroll
      Kane -Firmino -Quaner

      Any changes needed?

      1. Flush_Fraser
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Duuuuue, time and a place... 😉

        1. Flush_Fraser
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          *Duuuude

    • HashAttack
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Interesting figures - my averages are running at GK 4.64, DEF 4.81, MID 5.82, FWD 4.91

      The big difference is in the forwards ... I managed to get above 5.0 by playing Rooney and Firmino .. but another DGW with Kane (C) has brought be below 5 again

    • Reedy
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Great article. It's a shame that the formation analysis is rendered somewhat redundant by the dreamteam flouting the 100m starting budget cap / maximum players from one team rules. In any case, I agree that the dreamteam this year could well have a 5-man midfield. And thank heavens for that - 343 year in / year out is so dull.

      1. WesMantooth
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        I agree. The part on formations would probably be a lot more usefull if I was able to look at data that could show the best attainable team. Who knows, 4-3-3 might actually not come out on top when that's the main criteria.

    • Captain Roberto
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Great Article 🙂

      I was wondering the other day what the highest %Ownership ever was for a player. Is that sort of data available?

      After reading the article I decided to experiment with my team which was leaning toward the expensive defenders and then a sort of balance midfield attack. I had Kane and got his points this weekend. But Sold Salah for DeBruyne. Now I want them both 🙂 But I also want to keep Sterling and Son. I think that whilst Lingard has been good to me Pogba will be more likely to keep steady form. That, like so much on here is pure speculation and wishful thinking 😉 I noticed that Liverpool actually keep clean sheets but it's not reflected in the Transfer page menu searches because they don't have a guaranteed defensive starter so they each have 5 or 6 clean sheets... but now they do (in theory!)

      So what do people think of this mighty line up:

      DDG Alonso Azpili... vanDijk Stones
      Pogba Son, Sterling KDB (vc) Salah (C)
      Vardy

      (Elliot, Wilson**, j.Ayew, Dunk

      **Wilson is on some great form that I hadn't noticed

      1. FantasyDumbo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Great lineup! Although it'll hurt a lot once kane scores another hat trick. If you're ready for that pain, then you're good to go!
        Cheers!