Scout Notes

More pre-season problems for Man United as Liverpool dominate

There were contrasting fortunes for Manchester United and Liverpool in their pre-season meeting this weekend.

While Jurgen Klopp’s side once again looked like a team worth trusting with Fantasy Premier League investment, the reasons to avoid Manchester United continue to grow.

We’ve taken a look at the big clash for Scout Notes…

Manchester United 1-4 Liverpool

  • Goals: Andreas Pereira | Sadio Mané (£9.5m), Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m), Sheyi Ojo, Xherdan Shaqiri (£7.5m)
  • Assists: None | Mohamed Salah (£13.0m), Shaqiri, Andrew Robertson (£6.0m), Ben Woodburn

Manchester United’s defensive woes worsened over the weekend as they were thrashed 4-1 by Liverpool in Michigan. Chris Smalling (£6.0m) pulled up in the warm-up and was forced out of the game, while Luke Shaw (£5.0m) sat out the match too. That meant that Eric Bailly (£5.5m) had to play in the meeting while carrying an injury himself, and Jose Mourinho also revealed that Nemanja Matic (£5.0m) would miss the start of the season.

“Smalling? I’ve no idea (about a return). Shaw? I’ve no idea. Matic had a surgery. Yes, of course (he is out for the start of the season). I don’t know (about a return). He came from the World Cup with an injury and the time he had to rest in the holiday was not enough to resolve the problem.”

Such a slew of injuries could seriously damage United’s clean sheet prospects for the beginning of the season with Antonio Valencia (£6.5m) potentially out for a month, Diogo Dalot (£5.5m) not available until September and Marcos Rojo (£5.0m) and Matteo Darmian (£5.0m) destined for exits. There hasn’t been too much interest in the Red Devil’s defenders thus far, Bailly the most popular with just 5.8 percent backing. However, David De Gea (£6.0m) has become the most fashionable shot stopper and he could be set for some sales in the coming days. Since Friday, the Spaniard has already lost 0.4 percent ownership, with Ederson (£5.5m) or Alisson Becker (£5.5m) potential alternatives to the United man.

Man United were equally poor at the opposite end of the field, mustering just three shots on goal. One of those was Andreas Pereira’s impressive first-half free-kick but forward players Alexis Sánchez (£10.5m) and Juan Mata (£6.5m) were starved of service playing in front of a second-string midfield. Anthony Martial (£7.5m) was not involved again and it looks as if the problems are mounting for Mourinho, which may put Fantasy managers off owning United assets.

“Antonio Valencia comes from holiday – I think too much holiday for him. His condition was not good when he was back, then injury and also go back. Anthony Martial has the baby and after the baby is born – beautiful baby, full of health, thank God – he should be here and he is not here. So we have Alexis (Sanchez) and (Juan) Mata who play every minute of every match and now we have Real Madrid and after that Bayern Munich and that’s our start.”

On the other hand, Liverpool demonstrated their credentials for Gameweek 1 investment with another strong performance. Of particular note was Sadio Mané dispatching his second penalty-kick of pre-season, despite the fact that Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) had won it. Also on the pitch at the time was James Milner (5.5m), long-time taker, and Fabinho (£6.0m) whose history suggested he could be in the conversation. The fact that they did not step up for this one does imply that the Senegalese forward could be set to take spot kicks in the league this season. Salah’s penalty record at Liverpool is scored one, missed one, while Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has missed two from three he has taken.

Xherdan Shaqiri (£7.5m) put on another good display which could see him force his way into the starting line-up earlier than expected, especially with Firmino still absent. The Swiss international played in an advanced role against Manchester United providing an assist and scoring a spectacular bicycle kick in the second-half. Also pushing for first-team involvement is Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m) whose substitute appearance in this match provided his fourth goal of pre-season – no Liverpool player has more so far.

The battle between Joe Gomez (£5.0m) and Ragnar Klavan (£4.5m) to start at centre-back alongside Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m) for Gameweek 1 was not furthered by this particular match. Gomez started Liverpool’s previous encounter with Klavan replacing him at half-time, this time around it was the Estonian who got the nod from the beginning. He played 45 minutes before Nathaniel Phillips came on for him while Gomez replaced van Dijk in the 65th minute. We will definitely need to follow this situation more throughout the summer.

MANCHESTER UNITED XI (3-5-1-1): Grant (J Pereira 45’); Fosu-Mensah, Bailly, Tuanzebe (Gomes 81’); Mitchell (Fred 71’), McTominay, A Pereira, Herrera (Bohui 81’), Darmian; Mata (Chong 71’), Sánchez (Williams 81’).

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Grabara (Kelleher 45’); Moreno (Robertson 65’), Klavan (Phillips 45’), van Dijk (Gomez 65’), Camacho (Chrivella 65’); Lallana (Woodburn 45’), Fabinho (Jones 65’), Milner (Grujic 65’); Mané (Ojo 45’), Solanke (Sturridge 65’), Salah (Shaqiri 45’).

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1,342 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A. Patricio and mendy
    B. Ederson and ward (have lowton)

    1. RashFraud
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. banskt
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A after Mendy returns (maybe GW4 or 5), till then B.

  2. KompanyThePeople
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Will Lovren be nailed on when he gets back?

    1. Lazaretti
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Should be

    2. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He is the best defender in the world!

  3. Teror
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    All of Aubamayang's goals for Arsenal have come against fairly crap sides. Didn't get anything against City, Spurs, etc. Maybe avoiding for the first two matches isn't a bad idea.

    1. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Don’t think that’s anything to look into, if they score there’s a decent chance he’s involved. Although he’s not in my team

  4. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Please RMT out of 10 thanks

    Ederson speroni
    AWB PVA Robertson ward lowton
    Sane Salah richarlison mane chalobah
    Aguero wood madine

    1. Football Heaven
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Could swap firmino and mane

    2. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      What's with those CPL and Burnley double ups? 7/10

      1. Football Heaven
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Well AWB as a bench player and PVA for obvious reasons. When I look at defenders at 5.0 there aren’t many great options

        1. Teror
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          I'd get Steve Cook and save 0.5. It's a lot of money and a big risk because if they concede then you get nothing.

    3. RashFraud
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      6/10

  5. RashFraud
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    What changes would you make to this lot?

    Ederson Speroni
    Bailly Robbo Coleman AWB Cedric
    Salah Mane Sánchez Hughes Stephens
    Kun Tosun Kamara

    Rip me to shreds!
    Cheers!

    1. AandyzZ
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Too much united! Midfield is weak imo, I'd downgrade Sanchez to one of the 6.5's and upgrade Stephens

      1. RashFraud
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Stephens is bench fodder. Punting on Hughes and Sanchez for the first few GWs. Sanchez and Tosun will become 7.5 and Auba when fixtures turn

    2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Everything looks good but Sanchez is Overpriced IMO

  6. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Schlupp nailed?

    1. RashFraud
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Gotta wait and watch if CPL sign a LW

      1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Oh wow

  7. JohnCarewCarew
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Rather like when Bono said every time I clap my hands a child in Africa dies ( well, stop clapping your hands then!) every time I look at this website I tweak my team. So I’m going FFS cold turkey for a while. My mind is weak. Must. Stop. Tinkering.

    1. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      see you tomorrow

    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      see you next page

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        See you in about 500 seconds with another RMT.

        1. JohnCarewCarew
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Not convinced have ever posted a RMT in the several years have been on the site, not really my thang, just confuses me even more. Apology accepted.

  8. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    i'm struggling to settle on a team. anyone can please tell me what major issues i stil have?

    Pickford, stekelnburg
    Robertson, PVA, Stephen Ward, simpson, peltier
    Salah, Eriksen, siggy, Bsilva, danny ward
    Aguero, Arnautovich, woodhttps://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/07/30/more-pre-season-problems-for-man-united-as-liverpool-dominate/

    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      the link after wood is a typo sorry ignore - here it is again

      Pickford, stekelnburg
      Robertson, PVA, Stephen Ward, simpson, peltier
      Salah, Eriksen, siggy, Bsilva, danny ward
      Aguero, Arnautovich, wood

      1. KingOllie
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Solid team, can swap Bilva to Rambo when needed.

  9. FPL-(VAR)dy
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Bottomed.
    I have two top 50k finishes in FPL for two consecutive years.Will taking premium package here in FPLscout improve my ranking any better??

    1. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      buying membership isn't buying a guaranteed rank

    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      probably. simples - more informatoin = better chances.

    3. Cookie Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You'd think so but I managed 16K and 1.7K without and then only 55K last year with the package. Important to use a bit of eye test alongside stats I think

  10. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Who would you pick our of dilva sane Mahrez?

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      None.

    2. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      If Mahrez is fit, Mahrez.
      If not, Sane

    3. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Bilva

    4. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Sane

  11. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Decided that doubling on Arsenal could prove unwise. Thoughts? Please Rate it under tge assumptoon that Laca is nailed on for that CF role.

    Foster
    Robertson Pereira Tomkins
    Salah Mane Pedro Gray
    Aguero Lacazette Arnautovic

    Lossl 4.5 mid Cedric 4.0 def

    Originally had Rambo, Auba and Jota in instead of Gray, Mane and Lacazette.

    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      very good team, one of the best i've seen - love teh pereira and pedro picks

    2. AandyzZ
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Like the gray pick myself

  12. ludaslol
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Mane or Sane?

    Have Salah and Kun already

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Mané.

    2. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Mane, tbh. But then again, my gut tells me Liverpool will rip the title from City this season.

      1. ludaslol
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        they are looking great idd

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Mane!

  13. KompanyThePeople
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Best Burnley defender?

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Mee is popular here, I believe. Although Tark isnt too bad either.

  14. King Klopp
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Would removing Firmino for the first week then using FT be worth it if he doesn’t look like starting?

    1. RomeluStormzy
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Get mane instead

  15. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    REPOST:
    RMT out of 10
    Foster
    Mendy / Van Aanholt / Robertson
    Salah / Jota / Mane / Pedro
    Arnie / Aguero / Zaha
    Bench: Hamer / Costa / Cedric / Wan-B

    Thanks

    1. RashFraud
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      7/10

      1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks. How it could be improved?

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      8/10

  16. -GK22-
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts guys? Too heavy on a few teams that appear to have a good start

    Fab
    Stones, Robbo, Ward, Bednarek
    Salah, Mane, Richarlison
    Aguero, Auba, Zaha

    (Boruc, W-B, Gunnarsson, Jorginho)

  17. I am Cantona
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Any thoughts on this:

    DDG (Stek)
    Coleman, TAA, Stones (Bednarek, Malone)
    Richarlison, Mkhitaryan, Pedro, Salah, Sanchez
    Aguero, Austin (Joselu)

    Thanks

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Why Stones?

  18. BoxingKanga
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    RMT?

    Leno
    Mendy Robertson Bailly
    Salah KDB Jota Richarlison
    Aguero Arnatovic King

    Speroni : Cedric Stephens Wan-Bissaka

  19. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Pick two out of Jota Richarlison and Pedro

    1. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      r and p

    2. ludaslol
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Currently on Pedro and Rich/Jota.

      Really into Pedro, 1.7% owned aswell

      1. KompanyThePeople
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Will pedro play?

    3. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Maybe Azpi as a defender is better value BTW?

  20. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Maureen is hilarious.

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      He’s so negative

  21. ImBobbyLove
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Any thoughts on the following for GW 1-4

    Begovic - Pickford
    Bertrand - Robertson - Daniels - Cedric - Sakho
    Mahrez - Keita - Salah - Sane - B.Silva
    King - Zaha - Niasse

  22. KujaliaFC
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is Firmino nailed on for GW1?

    Brasil left the World Cup on 6 July 2018.

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Firmino wasn't even a starter.

      1. KujaliaFC
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Good point.

    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      no one knows

      Back @ livp camp today

      1. KujaliaFC
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks.

        A week and a half should be enough to get back.

    3. KompanyThePeople
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Not really.. Lacking fitness

  23. cescpistols111
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Best 4.5m defender (other than Bournemouth)?

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Tompkins?!

    2. moz_1983
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Currently have Tomkins, Cedric and Bamba in my team rotating for the third place in my 3 man defence.

  24. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    I know it’s been asked a million times but mane or firmino for opening gws and why?

    1. KompanyThePeople
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Mane because of penalties and firmino prob won't start first game

      1. moz_1983
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Same answer.

  25. JoeJitzu +42
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is Wan-Bissaka and Tompkins too much CP?

    Seem to be (imo) best 4.0 and 4.5 around?!

    Anyone going with both?

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Getting Schlupp if palace don't sign a LW

      1. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Ok, will monitor..
        Cheers

        1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          🙂

    2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I am going with Wan-Bissaka and PVA. Wan_Bissaka as my third bench.

  26. moz_1983
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A) Auba, Firm
    B) Aguero, Laca?

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      55:45 to A??

    2. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

  27. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Daily RMT to relive boredom

    Ederson

    Alonso Cedric Robertson

    Salah Mane Bilva Rich Costa

    Aguero Arnie

    Stek Sorloth AWB Fredericks

  28. infamousprob
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Thinking that I finally cracked it!!! This is my team:

    Ederson
    Alonso-Davies-Clyne
    Salah(C)-Mane-Eriksen-Shurrle-Richarlison
    King-Zaha

    BENCH: Arnautovic, Wan-Bissaka, Peltier.

    Liverpool is going to keep clean sheet against Hammers at home, so thats why Arnie is benched. Arnies fixtures are good GW2-5 so going to start him at those.

    Obviously strikers-area isn't loaded , but don't see any nailed options with good fixtures. Kane,Lukaku,Vardy,Firmino at holidays. Auba, Aguero, Jesus, Lacazette playing against each other and City are going to rotate alot.

    1. Traction Engine Foot
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Wouldn't be so confident about that Liverpool clean sheet. Schurrle is a wait and see for me.

    2. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting; you’ll need to generate cash when the premium strikers start performing!

  29. AandyzZ
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    What are people's thoughts on a GW1 bench boost?

    Feel like I can make a balanced team with 15 starters this year

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No way,there will be so much rotation lol

    2. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Bad idea.

      Use in a DGW.

    3. lugs
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      its not the optimal time to use it but i'm tempted to use it myself just to get rid of it , its so annoying trying to get 15 fit players with good fixtures 3/4 the way through the season lol

      1. AandyzZ
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        This is my thinking! There is always rotation in double game weeks anyway and it's such a hassle to get 15 starters at that point

        1. lugs
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          go for it then 🙂

    4. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No way

      1. AandyzZ
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I'm really tempted to though! Put me off ahah