Scout Notes

The Kane injury latest as Double Gameweek plans are dramatically altered

Three English teams were in UEFA Champions League action on Tuesday evening, with Tottenham Hotspur edging out Manchester City in the all-Premier League clash and Liverpool taking a 2-0 first-leg lead over Porto.

Our first Scout Notes article concentrates on the events in north London, with one particular talking point dominating discussion in the Fantasy community: a potentially serious ankle injury to Harry Kane (£12.6m).

We’ve got the latest on the Spurs striker below and have also reset the captain poll on our homepage (and at the bottom of this article), given that the premium FPL forward had dominated the vote before yesterday evening’s development.

Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Manchester City

  • Goal: Son Heung-min (£8.6m)
  • Assist: Christian Eriksen (£9.2m)

Mauricio Pochettino fears that Harry Kane‘s (£12.6m) season could be over after the influential centre-forward hobbled from the pitch after 58 minutes of his side’s 1-0 win over Manchester City on Tuesday evening.

Kane injured himself in a challenge with Fabian Delph (£5.3m) and was spotted leaving the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium on crutches, wearing a protective boot on his left ankle – the same ankle he injured in January in the defeat to Manchester United, which kept him out for 40 days.

Speaking immediately after the game, Pochettino said:

We need to check tomorrow but looks like it is the same ankle and similar injury. It is very sad and very disappointing. It is going to be tough. We are going to miss him, maybe for the rest of the season. It is a worry for us and for him. We hope it is not a big issue. But there is not too much time to recover. He twisted his ankle so now we will see how it reacts in a few hours.

Fabian was very disappointed in that situation but he didn’t realise Harry’s intention was not to tackle him. It was lucky he didn’t get the red card. In the action, both were very strong. But both didn’t have the intention to make damage to the other. That was why Harry in that moment was trying to talk to him but he was upset. Both were fighting for the ball.

Pochettino added in his press conference shortly after:

The news is that if you see the action, it’s an action that maybe he twisted his ankle and it can maybe damage the ligaments. We need to check in the next few days. It’s so painful but it’s impossible now to know. We can only look forward and hope it’s not a big issue and that he recovers as soon as possible, but it doesn’t look good.

Kane, who perhaps should have done better with a turn and shot in the first half, was subsequently replaced by Lucas Moura (£6.7m) after his injury, with the Brazilian – rather than Son Heung-min (£8.6m) – operating as the centre-forward in Pochettino’s 4-2-3-1.

Son played this match on the right flank, with Dele Alli (£8.8m) and Christian Eriksen (£9.2m) joining him as the support for Kane/Moura up front.

Despite his role on the wing, Son registered more attempts (four) than anyone on show and scored the game’s only goal when showing persistence to keep the ball in play on the byline and fire a low shot underneath Ederson (£5.6m) in the City goal.

The South Korea international curled two efforts wide from distance and saw an earlier attempt saved by Ederson from just inside the box.

If Kane is ruled out for a lengthy period of time as expected, then Son is one of a handful of options – along with Moura and Fernando Llorente (£5.1m) – available to Pochettino as his replacement as the spearhead of the frontline.

Not that the Spurs boss has generally favoured a one-man attack of late, with his 4-4-2 diamond and 3-4-1-2 allowing for two of his offensive options to lead the line.

Son rose in price in FPL overnight, no doubt aided by Kane’s injury, but it should be said that the Korean himself needed treatment on a calf problem in Tuesday’s match – Son dusted himself off to score and complete 90 minutes but we will be closely monitoring the Spurs’ news feed ahead of the Friday deadline.

On Son, Pochettino said:

I think he deserves it.  He always smiles, his attitude, everything, he ticks all the boxes. If there is one player that deserves to score and win prizes it’s him.

Formation is perhaps key to Alli’s Fantasy appeal, too.

Having played deeper in central midfield in recent times, the former MK Dons player was back in a more advanced role last night and caught the eye with his driving runs into the box.

Alli volleyed one early effort over after arriving late into the City area and produced a quietly impressive all-round display before being substituted near full-time.

The England midfielder is yet another slight injury concern, however, having walked off the field clutching his wrist – although there was no word on his condition in the post-match interviews.

Eriksen’s set-piece deliveries were once again awful but the Danish midfielder, who top-scored in Gameweek 32, registered another attacking return last night with his assist for Son’s goal.

Even if he is not quite matching his levels of previous seasons, Eriksen seems to have been freed since Alli’s return and no player on show at Spurs’ new ground on Tuesday registered more key passes than the Denmark international.

Two names who won’t feature too prominently in Fantasy bosses’ plans, Harry Winks (£5.5m) and Moussa Sissoko (£4.9m), drew praise from their manager:

In the last year and a half, Sissoko is a player that has given a lot of things to us, I’m so happy with him. Of course, after his injury, Harry Winks has again given a lot to the team. I’m happy, but I’m happy with all the performances and all the players.

Spurs’ defence also shone as we near Double Gameweek 35, with Hugo Lloris (£5.4m) only having two saves to make and Toby Alderweireld (£6.0m) producing a defensive masterclass at centre-half.

One of the French goalkeeper’s two saves was from a missed Sergio Aguero (£11.7m) penalty.

The Argentinean striker returned from injury to play the first 71 minutes of this encounter but had something of an off-night as he sent two more first-half efforts wide and didn’t get a look-in after the interval.

Riyad Mahrez (£8.2m) was no better on a surprise start on the right flank, while Raheem Sterling (£11.5m) was much as he had been on Saturday in the FA Cup semi-final – some way short of his best (and occasionally selfish in possession) but still representing City’s biggest goal threat.

It was from Sterling’s jinking run and shot that Danny Rose (£5.8m) conceded a penalty for handball, while the former Liverpool winger forced Lloris into his only other save of the match when being teed up by Aguero early in the second half.

While Kane’s ankle sprain hogged the headlines, City had injury issues of their own as Bernardo Silva (£7.6m) missed out on the defeat and Ederson picked up a hip injury midway through this loss but carried on to play the full 90 minutes.

The Brazilian goalkeeper was seen limping through the mixed zone after the match but there was no update on his condition from the club or his manager.

Bernardo’s absence was thought to be as a precaution because of a thigh strain and Guardiola said of the Portuguese midfielder:

Bernardo couldn’t play. During the season there are injuries, there are problems and hopefully next week, maybe Bernardo will be fit.

Despite Bernardo’s injury, Guardiola decided against starting Kevin De Bruyne (£9.7m) and instead paired Fernandinho (£5.3m) and Ilkay Gundogan (£5.5m) with David Silva (£8.5m) in the centre of the park.

The City boss explained his decision after full-time:

I decide to play with two holding midfielders, Gundogan and Fernandinho are a little more solid in that. [Fitness] is not the issue.

Delph was given the nod at left-back, meanwhile, with Guardiola revealing that Benjamin Mendy (£6.1m) wasn’t up to successive starts:

Mendy after four or five months injured, playing last time, then today another one, it was too much.

Delph and Kyle Walker (£6.4m) really struggled at full-back, with Walker having his second straight below-par game after his troubles at Wembley last weekend.

Tottenham Hotspur XI (4-2-3-1): Lloris; Trippier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose; Sissoko, Winks (Wanyama 80′); Eriksen, Alli (Llorente 85′), Son; Kane (Moura 58′).

Manchester City XI (4-3-3): Ederson; Walker, Laporte, Otamendi, Delph; Fernandinho, Gundogan, D Silva (De Bruyne 89′); Mahrez (Sane 89′), Aguero (Jesus 71′), Sterling.

848 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Babit1967
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    A) Aguero Jota Delofeu
    B) Firmino Eriksen JWP
    ?
    This what I’m stuck on

    1. poulteren
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Firmino? Niche,,,,,

      Delofeu...look at his minutes....I would go Kun, Jota, ERKISEN or JWP

      ignore the rest

  2. Bob B
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this team please?
    If I save a transfer for 36, I can bring in Salah for Sterling or Robertson for Duffy, by downgrading Deeney.
    Sound good?

    Lloris Foster
    Duffy Dunk Laporte TAA Valery
    Eriksen Son Mane Jota Sterling
    Aguero Jimenez Deeney

    1. The 5% Team
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes looks very nice

  3. simong1
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    A or B?

    A)
    Ryan – Foster
    Robertson – Duffy – Doherty – Valery – Bednarek

    B)
    Lloris - Ryan
    TAA - Duffy - Cathcart - Doherty - Bednarek

    1. poulteren
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Homer21
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A

  4. Chilli Heatwave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Be gentle. First WC draft, feedback appreciated

    Lloris/foster

    Duffy dunk Doherty Robertson valery

    Rambo jota son eriksen Mané

    Jiménez Aguero deeney

    0.9 itb

    1. Keep Calm and Play On
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure about the Rambo pic but I like the rest..could be a good punt. I wanted to have him in my team before he was flagged for last weekend.

  5. Keep Calm and Play On
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    How's it look?

    Lloris - Ryan
    Robo - Laporte - Doherty - Duffy - Stankovic
    Sterling - Mane - Son - Jota - JWP
    Kun - Vardy - Jim

    Thanks!

    1. poulteren
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      no watford coverage at all. They have the best double game week.,

      1. Keep Calm and Play On
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Vardy to Deeny would probably be my GW 35 transfer if that helps

    2. Chilli Heatwave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      All good but I would go dealafuou over jwp or doucoure if you can stretch to it

      1. Keep Calm and Play On
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks, can't squeeze him in without cutting somewhere else

        1. Chilli Heatwave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Robbo to TAA?

    3. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I'm on something very similar, but have lower TV so my defence is slightly weaker.

      Unsure whether to have Vardy or just go straight to Deeney, I don't like planned transfers on a WC.
      Thinking I might start with Deeney, pray Rafa keeps it tight and have an extra FT and 3+ ITB for flexibility.

      In general though I like the team, wish i could afford your Robb and Doherty over my TAA and Bennett

  6. Bullet Eder
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Which do we prefer on WC:

    A. TAA, Hazard, Deeney

    B. Robbo, Aguero, Hojberg

    1. poulteren
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      why would you pick hazard? no double game week and they're playing liverpool away. His stats / chels' stats are awful a way from home.

      1. Bullet Eder
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I think he could very easily outscore every single DGW player with Burnley at home

        1. poulteren
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          cool. Then go for it. You asked for an opinion. His value is dropping in price for a reason

    2. Keep Calm and Play On
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A

  7. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Now there’s no Kane, why isn’t everyone all over Salah?

    1. poulteren
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      because of fixtures in 35

    2. fkmzcgp
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Salah went straight back in to my team after news of Kane's injury last night... he's going for golden boot, good fixtures and can triple captain him in GW36

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This!

    3. Jack Burton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Straight back in sucker for punishment

    4. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Because of the experience of owning Salah over the past few months.

    5. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Why would they be?

    6. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I'm holding 3.8 mil in the bank to get him later if he proves he's back in form and Mane isn't.
      One goal isn't enough to convince me, could equally go Firmino and Mane for GW36

      Not that much extra cash after Kane injury for me anyway, I just got Kun

  8. semiconductor
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Not much love for Moura?

    1. KingOllie
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Think im going for him and son 😀

      1. KingOllie
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Lucas (C) for Huds

    1. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He got a knock last night, scored afterwards though and looked fine although that doesn't mean he won't be rested.

  9. TheDragon
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Just finished listening to last nights Scoutcast

    Want to say I think last nights scout cast was superb.

    I think having Andy and Az on together works well as they both often have completely opposite but equally valid points of view.

    Jonty and David are excellent - enjoyed their GW34 captaincy vid too.

    Keep up the good work!

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I agree. It's good when they disagree a little and actually have a bit of a debate.

      1. TheDragon
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly - helps actually bring out the pros and cons of each option rather than just blindly following a template.

        I think Az has the potential to be one of the very best FPL managers. His thinking / analysis is almost always spot on. Trouble is this season he has mostly ignored his own advice each week!

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          I don't disagree. I prefer AZ and most certainly Luke to all the others. If you took those two out you're just listening to a few guys talk about the template and boring moves.

          I'm playing to win and I think AZ and Luke are too. The rest are just playing for top 10,000. Podcast of Mark, Granville, Az and Luke would be the perfect mix or sensible and interesting.

          1. TheDragon
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Ye agreed - Mark coming back would take it to the next level

  10. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Very nearly locked. I’ve gone the radical route of picking form players and Sterling.

    Lloris (Foster)
    Duffy Dunk Laporte (VVD) (Valery)
    Hazard Sterling Martial Son (CHO)
    Firmino Vardy Jimi

    Only real doubt fifth mid. May yet get Hojbjerg or Cam. Martial becomes Jota in 35 so I can reach any 3rd Pool in 36

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Martial is a form player? Jota is better for cheaper IMO

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yep I think he does count as form. WH away are horrid and Man U attack for a week is an excellent bet.

        I like Jota - had him right up to FH but Soton away is tough so that why he waits a week

  11. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    We reckon Kane is defo out? As a WC option at least?

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I’d say for the season taking account of recovery time etc. Even if he was available for last few games would he bit fit? Unfortunate.

      1. OldBenKenobi
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Be fit*

  12. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Got an advert for that ‘Wasting Your Wildcard’ book below.

    Didn’t even need to read it 😎

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      It’s a good read. Really relatable at times 🙂

  13. Drogba Legend
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Current draft: Thoughts?

    Lloris/Foster
    TAA - Kola - Laporte - Doherty - Valery
    KDB - Mane - Eriksen - Son - Camarasa
    Aguero - Deeney - Jimenez

    .1 ITB and probably lower TV than a lot of you.

    1. fkmzcgp
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No brighton?? I would personally prefer Duffy to Kola

  14. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Captain Son or Duffy?

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      The big Q

      1. TheDragon
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        You are planning to captain Quaner?

        1. OldBenKenobi
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          😉

    2. fkmzcgp
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Think im going Duffy.. feel like Son could be benched

    3. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Duffy and I honestly don't think it's even close

  15. OldBenKenobi
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Time to squeeze Lukaku in now that Kane’s kaputt?

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not for me

    2. Miles105
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Has come into my thinking, just need to keep an eye on how utd line up tonight tho, especially if rashford is fit or not

  16. drughi
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    DGW 35 will be disappointing I feel, city assets playing 1 game rotated for the second and same with spurs. Brighton, wolves and Watford on the beach.

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      That’s the spirit! 😉

      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        glass half empty type of guy

    2. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I still think Wolves and Watford will do well. Saints could be dark horses in defence.

    3. rnrd
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Best city players rotated for a game at old Trafford with Liverpool one point behind them in the league?

      1. drughi
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        they have the bench for it, can't see sterling and Aguero starting every game with an important cl tie to recover from

  17. Goonsquad245
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Think I've got it - 0.0 in the bank so I'm taking it as a sign!

    Lloris Foster
    Robbo Laporte Doherty Duffy Dunk
    Mane Eriksen Son KDB Jota
    Aguero Jimenez Deeney

    Thoughts? KDB feels like a punt but got a rest last night....

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      have pretty much the same team, Mane over KDB and can't quite stretch to Laporte.
      Looks good cos my teams looks good 🙂

      1. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Do you mean Sterling over KDB? Already have Mane 🙂

        1. Annie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          yeah 🙂

    2. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Great team - not having Ryan is the right way forwards on a WC

      Only question mark is Laporte for me - not great fixtures

      1. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed, I just think City will really tighten up vs the big guns

    3. TaiwanHC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I really like it!

      But you will have a massive benching headache after GW35...

      Anything you have considered?

  18. KingOllie
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Is this midfield too weak?

    Son - Salah - Moura - Deulofeu - Jota

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I like it, but you know the risks with Lucas

      1. KingOllie
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I do... I also currently have the armband on him !

        1. Goonsquad245
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Could be a stroke of genius this week. Good luck!

  19. Iggypop
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    not captaining duffy
    not picking deeney
    not picking Southampton defense

    reason = they are all rubbish

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      yeah, rubbish. GL.

    2. Bring the Cavalry
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      If Duffy is rubbish why even have him in your team

  20. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I'm trying to gauge how much of a differential the template WC team will be in top 100k. Can anyone point me in the direction of data on how many managers have already used 2nd WC in that bracket?

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I’m the top 10k c39% of teams have already used their wildcard (I.e. before this gameweek

      Don’t have the info in top 100k

      Source: LiveFPL

      1. Forza Papac
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers

  21. YoungPretender
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Any thoughts on my low-TV WC?

    Lloris Foster
    Duffy Dunk Robertson Laporte Bednarek
    Sterling Mane Son Jota JWP
    Kun Jiminez Deeney

  22. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Best option on the WC:

    A: Lloris + Valery + Kun
    B: Gunn + Trippier + Auba

    1. Bobby_Baggio
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. fkmzcgp
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A by far

  23. Bobby_Baggio
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Any issues with having Lukaku for BB35?

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Personally I’m avoiding united until GW37 and 38

    2. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Like what?

      1. Bobby_Baggio
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Che?

  24. Delhidynamo
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this?

    Ederson Foster
    VVD Laporte Duffy Dunk Valery
    Eriksen KDB Son Siggy Jota
    Firmino Vardy Jimenez

    Will change up Siggy and Dunk next week

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I don't like Siggy as a 1 week punt, particularly as you'll have to bench someone that could do very well

      1. Delhidynamo
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I'm good with benching Firmino/Jota this week I feel

  25. rnrd
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Can gunners fans give some advice about Kolasinac? seems a good pick on paper but hard to read into Emery's mind.

    1. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      he should keep starting but if he's having a blunder he can be taken off too

  26. A Fat Spanish Waiter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Potentially stupid question here: any idea how often the RMT tool in the members section is updated? I saw Kane was changed earlier today, but everything else stayed the same.

  27. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Thinking I’m going to go Trippier. Too good to ignore, just prey he plays

    1. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      he definitely creates a good number of chances, but Aurier's a worry

      1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        as is KWP

        1. Delhidynamo
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          yeah he should see some mins too

  28. drughi
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    A or B ?

    A. Ryan, Dunk and JWP
    B. Lloris, Valery and Hojbjerg

  29. Deulofeu
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    On WC

    Will you choose Mane or Jota for next 2 Weeks? Mane only SGW and not on form... thanks.