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Dugout Discussion December 15

Foden makes first league start of season as De Bruyne takes up advanced role

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The penultimate match of Gameweek 17 kicks off at 16:30 GMT, as Manchester City head to the Emirates to take on Arsenal.

Without the injured David Silva (£7.6m) and Sergio Aguero (£11.7m), Pep Guardiola has sprung a surprise by naming Phil Foden (£5.1m) in his starting XI for the first time in the Premier League this season.

With midfield anchors Ilkay Gundogan (£5.2m) and Rodri (£5.4m) in the visitors’ line-up, Kevin De Bruyne (£10.2m) looks to be playing in a more advanced role behind Foden, Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) and Gabriel Jesus (£9.6m).

Nicolas Otamendi (£5.0m) and Benjamin Mendy (£5.5m) also come into the side from the team that was defeated in the Manchester derby, with Angelino (£4.7m) and the sidelined John Stones (£5.3m) making way.

Bernardo Silva (£7.9m) and Riyad Mahrez (£8.3m) are only amongst the substitutes.

Freddie Ljungberg has made two enforced changes to the side that beat West Ham last Monday, with Sead Kolasinac (£5.2m) and Matteo Guendouzi (£4.5m) coming in for the injured Kieran Tierney (£5.4m) and Granit Xhaka (£5.1m).

Alexandre Lacazette (£9.3m) is again among the substitutes as Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£10.8m) leads the line for the Gunners.

Mesut Ozil (£7.2m) makes his seventh straight Premier League start.

At the risk of jinxing it, there ought to be goals in this fixture: Arsenal and City are without a league clean sheet in eight and six matches respectively.

Bernd Leno (£5.0m) has made more saves than any other Fantasy Premier League goalkeeper this season.

City have scored at least two goals in each of the last seven league meetings with the Gunners.

Fantasy managers have been deserting the premium players from these two clubs recently: De Bruyne, Sterling and Aubameyang were three of the four most-sold FPL assets of Gameweek 17.

Arsenal XI: Leno, Maitland-Niles, Sokratis, Chambers, Kolasinac, Guendouzi, Torreira, Pepe, Özil, Martinelli, Aubameyang.

Man City XI: Ederson, Walker, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Mendy, Gundogan, Rodri, Foden, De Bruyne, Sterling, Jesus.

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  1. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Gw18-21 who would you prefer?

    A) Mane- Blank lei WOL SHU

    B) Son- CHE BHA nor sou

    (Already got Alli between)

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    1. GOTHAM City F.C.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son

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    2. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’m seriously considering B - it’s scary but has real potential

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    3. Jolly Good
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If your blank cover is decent then Mane

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      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cantwell (WOL)

        But Son fixtures better no? Could see some explosive returns

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    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Who’s the Mane autosub in GW18?

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      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cantwell. Will have 3.8m itb to do Alli back to Mane/Salah if liverpool mids goes big

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    5. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son

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    6. TFP
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      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm probably doing mane-son, but mostly because I'll be wild carding ahead of gw20 & face the option to bring Salah in anyway.

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      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This im planning to do same move and bring in Salah for Alli in couple of gws time.

        Salah seems to be back to his mercurial best

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  2. Kryptonite666
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Already have Son

    A. Mount to Alli for free or
    B. Mount to Cantwell and Mousset to Rashford for -4

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    1. Sid1891
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

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  3. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Son or KDB?

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    1. Sid1891
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      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not at the moment

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    2. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      KDB!!!

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    3. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      KDB

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    4. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son

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    5. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Both

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  4. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Quick shout out to all those who knew KDB would play further forward today

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    1. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Shout out to Pep.

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    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Dilva injury says duh

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      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Pardon, hope you're not forgetting Bilva/Mahrez exist

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        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yes they are the wingers. KDB and Dilva are the attacking midfielders/second strikers

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  5. Saka Rice
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mount and Mane> KDB and Son?

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    1. Sid1891
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Certainly

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    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      yes

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  6. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Kdb in cam/ free role is just untouchable. But next week he'll be back in cm

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      1. Sid1891
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Lets enjoy this week

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      2. HonestBlatter
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Pep should understand where KdB belongs based on results

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      3. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        He might not be. Seems to me his positioning this week has single handedly kickstarted their campaign

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    • FER FUSCH AKE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      arm band on Jimenez for gw 18

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      1. FPL DONKEY
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I was thinking the same. I just worry that NOR are not the whipping boys they were...

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        1. FER FUSCH AKE
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          why is it only city players getting carded

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    • FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Just need Gabriel Jesus to get in on the act now please

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        That would be nice. KDB assists.

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    • Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Before transfers: KDB, Pulisic, Jimenez, Vardy captain = 26pts and counting 😐

      After transfers: Alli, Son, Rashford, Rashford captain = 4pts 😐

      😐

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      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Ouch

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        • Sid1891
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Been impatient
          Bit like me two GW ago...

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        • Rainer
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Thank Arsenal.

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        • Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Make that 27pts, since I assumed incorrectly that Pulisic got 2pts.

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          1. The Ejiptian King
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Trying to take away his haul.

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            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              😆

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        • FPL DONKEY
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Surely that's 8pts?

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          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Took a hit. There're three transfers there, with 2FTs 🙂

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        • svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          You're forgetting 5 pts from Vardy.

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          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            I didn't sell Vardy

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            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              But you got his points.

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              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                ?
                If I add it to the "Before transfers", I would also need to add it to the "After transfers". Seems quite unnecessary. I'm just counting points difference based on where I played the captaincy chip.

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        • Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah I guess to stay put for next gameweek, the new lots may pay you back ...

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      2. Tsparkes10
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Foden definitely taking his opportunity well, as did Greenwood today. Nice to see 🙂

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        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I'm hoping that he has a late run to get into the full England team for next year.

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          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            I think Foden would be more useful in a Southgate team than any of Maddison, Mount and alike

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            1. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              All quality international teams need a locksmith. I'd agree with you about Mount but we need a Maddison or someone like him, or better.

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            2. Make United Great Again
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Certainly over Mount

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      3. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Hmmh ... biggest mistake of this season, removing KDB for Martial. Take it on the chin and move on to the next gameweek!

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        1. Sid1891
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          At least you admit!

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        2. The Pesci challenge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yep I did it for Alli, onwards and upwards

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          1. DycheDycheBaby
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Same. And did it to fund Jimi to Rashford lol

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      4. Revival
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Arsenal seriously need to appoint a imterim manager till the end of the season, longer they wait the worse this is getting.

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        1. TAT
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          The thing is, you can't trust the Arsenal hierarchy to make the right decisions…

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      5. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Can me, with one point and Zaha beat my opponent who has Ryan, Dunk & Kelly?

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        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Yes one zaha goal and a random Brighton equaliser is enough

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          • Ha.
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            No

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          • TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Hope Zaha scores 1 point.

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            1. Yank Revolution
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Bad TM! Down, boy!!

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          • Sid1891
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Absolutely
            Zaha goal and baps will do it

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          • have you seen cyan
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Nice, its gonna be close!

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        2. trinzoo
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          rmwct please:

          Ramsdale / Martin
          Aurier / Lund / Kelly / Rico / Baines
          Son / Alli / Grealish / KDB / Sterling
          Vardy / Abraham / Greenwood

          1.7 ITB to get Salah/Mane

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          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            How do you get Salah/Mane with 1.7?

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            1. Miguel Sanchez
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Sorry missed Sterling - looks good, not sure on Tammy form

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              1. trinzoo
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Would you just get Jimmy instead?

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                1. Miguel Sanchez
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Maybe even Ings

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            2. trinzoo
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Sterling to Salah most probably just before gw19 or Tammy/Son to Jimmy/Salah in case Chelsea wont improve

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        3. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Martinelli a big Richarlison fan it seems.

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        4. Bob B
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Asking the same question I asked yesterday.

          A. KDB
          B. Son (triple up with Alli & Gazzaniga)

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          1. Kryptonite666
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            a bad time to ask this question 🙂

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            1. Magic Zico
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              This

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        5. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Not keen on Ferguson subbing Kean on at 70 mins then subbing him off without saying a word to him then admitting it was to “waste time”. That’s just really poor management of one of the most talented players in the squad I hope he asks to leave in January

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          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            He’s lying. If was to waste time he’d have shook his han and explained but he didn’t even look st him as he came off

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            1. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              *If i
              *hand
              *at
              🙄

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              1. Wild Rover
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                *if it ffs

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                1. The Ejiptian King
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Mulled wine is a wonderful thing.

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                  1. Old Man
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Not on the morning after if you overdo it!

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            2. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Yeah, I agree.

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            3. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              He’s a tool. Some great results but that won’t last long if he is such a ****

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          2. sminkypinky
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Seemed strange. Obviously wasn’t happy with him. Still, that’s very discouraging to the player. He’ll leave.

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          3. Clintymints
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            It’s about sending a message

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          4. DublinDude
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Kean’s attitude after coming onto the pitch stank. He was not running into space to make himself available. No urgency in joining the attack nor the defence.

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        6. FDMS All Starz
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Seeing how effective Kdb can be playing as a CAM, think Pep should play him more there if he wants to peruse the league...been a while since city looked this threatening and Kdb just behind the striker is devastating with his finishing

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          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Dilva’s retirement couldn’t come soon enough for them

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          2. Clintymints
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Tbf Foden is Dave’s replacement and doing a damn good job

            Letting KdB roam and be where he should be is gold

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            1. sminkypinky
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              I agree.

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          3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Arsenal are absolutely terrible has more to do with his 2 goals than anything

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            1. sminkypinky
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Still two brilliant finishes most players wouldn’t convert.

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            2. Yank Revolution
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              But KDB's positioning is definitely better and more forward than normal...so, it has something to do with formation and tactics

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            3. Clintymints
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              For sure that space behind the cm and in front of the defenders is massive

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        7. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Which of these downgrades (allows Son for Pulisic)

          A) TAA to Aurier
          B) Pereira to Targett (4.4 def)

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          1. Sid1891
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            B

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        8. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Jesus should have scored that...

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        9. Revival
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Only poor finishing by City and wasting chances will stop them scoring 5 or 6 now

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        10. OverTinker
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          save KDB for other games you Peg

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        11. Gudjohnsen
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          De Bruyne wants his hatrick.

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        12. Rainer
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Keep shooting Kev.

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        13. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          That seat on the benches these days must be very comfy

          Freddie has hardly moved all game

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          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Neither has his defence

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        14. twoplustwo
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Arsenal should try and tackle KDB when he has the ball

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          1. Podge
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            That’s not very Arsenal

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        15. Tsparkes10
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Imagine being able to take off one of the best young mids in the Premier league to bring on a 25 year old with one of the best touches in the world haha. Disgusting

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          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Wouldn't mind except they moan about injuries every chance they get

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        16. FPL Blow-In
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yuck I’m .1 short of Salah and Maddison to Kdb and Son

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        17. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Bilva to get his 5th yc?

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        18. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Lascelles and tielemans to targett and grealish for free ? Thanks

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          1. Podge
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Sure

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            1. Ajax Hamsterdam
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Thanks

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