FPL Masterclass

Tips on how to target a top 10k FPL overall rank

Our new FPL Masterclass series unites three of the best Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers around: two-time India champion Lateriser, seven-time top 10k finisher Zophar and five-time top 1,000 finisher Tom Freeman.

Between them, they have 20 overall ranks in the top 10,000, nine of which were within the top 1k.

They’ll be chipping in with regular Fantasy advice ahead of the start of 2021/22, with opinion on everything from tips for newcomers to captaincy picks.

Our trio of top managers will be writing for Fantasy Football Scout every week throughout the new season – and only subscribers will be able to read all of their articles in full.

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Having previously provided general advice for FPL managers ahead of the upcoming campaign, discussed proven assets v Fantasy gambles, mused on the importance of a strong bench and debated the importance of team value, our panel are now asked about their strong suit: how to target a top 10k finish.

LATERISER SAID…

This is such a tricky question and I don’t really know how to answer it but let me give it a go. Firstly, you need to determine what your own skillset and temperament is like. Are you good at playing a stat-focused game or an eye-test game? Are you comfortable playing a high variance game (which is dependent on your risk appetite)? Take advantage of your own skillset and temperament and play the game you’re comfortable with (it doesn’t have to be black or white).

Once that is out of the way, don’t presume that this season is going to be similar to the previous one. Every campaign in FPL is very unique and you need to try having no biases from the previous season going into the new one. Methods that worked for you last year might not necessarily work for you this time around.

So after every week, you need to take a step back and think macro and strategy while making your moves. FPL is such a dynamic game that one week is a very long time and a lot of moving parts are there which you need to be on top of.

The most important tip, in my opinion, is that nothing really increases your chances of success in this game more than good old groundwork and research. This game has become more and more popular over the years and the managers we are competing with in FPL are armed with more and more information. This means that you need to go more than the extra yard to gain an advantage on your competition, which means reading more articles, doing your own research, watching highlights carefully, visiting fan forums, etc. This is always going to be the most important factor in giving you a chance of finishing in the top 10k once you’ve determined the style of play you’re comfortable with.

TOM SAID…

Firstly, the game is much, much harder nowadays. Even the casuals will be aware of the Double and Blank Gameweeks, so I’m not sure setting yourself a top 10k target from a pool of 8m+ players is such a good idea. I’d argue that a top 50k finish is perhaps more realistic, and let’s be honest, the difference between the two is often a couple of big captaincy calls going your way, or maybe your Triple Captain firing. Sometimes you’ll get lucky, sometimes you won’t; that’s just the way it goes.

However, to hit those really high finishes, planning is essential. Try and visualise how you want your team to look a few weeks down the line, paying careful attention to captaincy and any big fixture swings. As a result, it should at least ensure you don’t have to take any unnecessary hits ahead of a deadline.

Knowing when to react to the development of teams in shorter spells is also important, too: always ask yourself if they are the real deal or have they simply benefitted from an easier run of fixtures?

Also, ensure you put enough time aside to watch games and analyse data, so that you can at least form your own opinions rather than count on others.

ZOPHAR SAID…

With the number of FPL users growing each year, achieving a top 10k finish is only getting more difficult. With the game so popular and information so widely available, players are well aware of Double/Blank Gameweeks and there are so many resources to aid them in their planning for the same. Simply picking the popular template players used to be a viable strategy early on but this would probably only get you a 30-40k finish these days, not in the top 10k. 

To get there now, you need to move onto the next bandwagon before the crowd. There’s no point transferring a player in after a haul, as the masses would already have caught onto him and there won’t be any significant gains to be had as most people around your rank would already own him. For this, it is necessary to think forward. Look at when the fixtures are favourable for a player and bring him in ahead of that run, rather than waiting for him to deliver. 

You also need a few differentials in your squad to make up ground. If you are near 70-80% of the template, then the gains are going to be steady and not significant. A few punts on low-owned players, say under 10% ownership, could propel you up the ranks if they deliver. I would say the last 10 weeks are a good time to look for differentials, not early doors. In the first half of the season, it is better to go with the trusted, proven picks, and by the second half, we usually have enough information to ascertain which players are going under the radar.

1,121 Comments Post a Comment
  1. cravencottage
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Like it- but I do feel that Mane is overpriced

    1. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Love it - Mane is overpriced.

    2. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Correct. However I also admit TAA and Robbo are but many aren’t willing to accept that.

      1. El Presidente
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Absolutely

  2. rozzo
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Anybody a fan of 442?

    Mesiler
    TAA Stones James Shaw
    Salah Bruno Havertz Bowen
    Watkins Toney

    Foster White Brownhill Obafemi

    1. Qasim
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Y is everyone so certain of Shaw starting

      1. Haa-lala-land
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I'd be shocked if any of the England players, especially Shaw, started GW1

        1. Lanley Staurel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Im on AWB for now. Don't want non starters in GW1.

          1. Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            I can handle one non starter GW1, but having both Stones and Shaw is scary. And I think that last time Pep basically rested World Cup players for 3 or 4 weeks. I hope somebody checks this, we basically need an article about it. Therefore Stones coud be an issue.

      2. KING KOUNDER
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Telles is injured, United have a stronng squad and can have a real go at the title and pressure is on Ole to deliver..Shaw has to start if he is not injured...

  3. rjcv177
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Evening guys.
    Last Draft sent me to Konaté for double liv Def.
    How can i go to Robbo in your opinion?

    Sxz
    TAA, digne, Konaté, target
    Salah, Son, mahrez, Greenwood
    Watkins, Antonio

    Foster, brownhill, white, Obafemi

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Double Liv def isn´t the best idea. Just forget it, they conceded to Norwich last time and even if they keep CS this time, I wouldn´t trust their defence. Get rather AWB, Chilwell (or dull Dias)?

  4. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Hi.....looking looking view's on which of these set ups work best please? Thanks

    Sanchez
    Taa digne shaw ayling xxx
    Salah Bruno buendia xxx brownhill
    Watkins xxx toney

    A...... onabamidele raphinha antonio plus 1m (343)

    B.......white son davis (442)

    Thanks

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I prefer B since you can sell Buendia for Raphinha after gw3. I doubt you want to have both GW4.

  5. Warby84
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Sanchez Steele
    Trent Shaw White (Targett Omadelle)
    Havertz Salah Mahrez Raphinha (Brownhill)
    Watkins Werner Antonio

    Thoughts to my Werner 11?

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Too speculative imo.

      I think you'll only get 1 of Havertz, Mahrez, Werner right.

      1. FantasyClub
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        He’ll get 2

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Great differential! Maybe play Targett instead of White?

  6. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How's this looking?

    Sanchez (4.0)
    TAA - Robbo - Ayling/White (4.0)
    Salah - Bruno - ESR - Raphina (4.5)
    Watkins - Wilson - Iheanacho

    0.5itb

    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      You know you've got an Arsenal player in there don't you?

      1. FantasyClub
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        What’s wrong with having an Arsenal player lol

      2. Thinkering like a Boss
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        ESR 5.5 cant expect much tbh but great prospect

  7. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Would appreciate any advice as to which one looks better.. thanks 🙂

    Thoughts?

    Sanchez Foster
    Webster TAA Shaw White Ayling
    Bruno Salah Mahrez Havertz Brownhill
    Tammy/Toney Watkins Obafemi

    or
    Sanchez Foster
    Dunk Coufal TAA Shaw Ayling
    Bruno Salah Mahrez Buendia Brownhill
    Watkins Antonio

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      F3 in the 2nd one?

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      You’ll get more responses if you just list the differences.

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks bro

    3. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      second team

  8. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    (A) Bruno, Jota, Wilson

    (B) Son, Mahrez, DCL

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      B

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Is Jota looking like nailed?

  9. RichieW
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How's this looking? Got 2m itb

    Sanchez
    Trent AWB Digne Chilwell
    Salah Sancho Buendia
    DCL Watkins Wilson

    4.0 White Brownhill Gilmour

    Buendia>Grealish if he's at city
    AWB>Shaw if he's fit

    1. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Chilwell > Cresswell
      Sancho > Bruno

      Just a suggestion

    2. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      433 seems a very good way to start the season. With 2m in the bank youll have room to get whoever is on form, even Bruno is only two moves away.

  10. Fake Madrid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Allan of Everton for 5th midfielder.

    Not a high scorer but a regular player and Everton have good league start.

    1. FantasyClub
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I prefer Townsend for 5.5

    2. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      He will get you 2 points if called upon just like all the other fodder unless he gets booked

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      You can do better than no attacking returns, Brownhill should get 3.

  11. Zoostation
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Would appreciate a RMT, please and thank you:

    Bachmann (Foster)

    TAA Shaw Veltman (White, Omobamidele)

    Salah Bruno Havertz Raphinha (Brownhill)

    Antonio Watkins Toney

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      This season is I plan to play after disastrous starts. Toney is in a team expected to be relegated, Raphinha has difficult fixtures to start with and we don´t know if Haverz is worth the money with 4/6 first fixtures being sour. I expect Chelsea to keep clean sheets, but can´t see them be free scoring. I would rather punt on Mahrez or Jota for example.

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Forgot word "safe" 🙁

      2. SuperG
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        This

    2. SuperG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Not bad.

      Alll of this is personal option, but:
      * Watford Keeper of Sanchez is needless punt and probably wrong
      * White I kinda get but find a fullback like Alying
      * Havertz is too punty for me. Appalling fixtures and we don’t yet know he’s nailed anyway. To me you’re booking in a transfer.

    3. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I think Havertz is a great differential especially GW1!

  12. JurgenRodgers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Preferred combo

    (A) Antonio/Barnes

    (B) Havertz/Sarr

    1. Peter Ouch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. SuperG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      If Barnes plays, then A by a distance. But we don’t yet know.

      1. Croaker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        This

    3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A, only because I don’t like Sarr....

  13. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Raphinha or Buendia?

    1. DIMITRIS
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      both

    2. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      The one who's already proved and shown he can perform in the premiership

  14. xHaTr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this 3-5-2 with Salah, Bruno, Son and Trent?

    Bachmann
    TAA Veltman Lowton
    Buendia Salah Son Raphinha Bruno
    Toney Antonio

    Foster Ayling White Obafemi

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Very good mate

  15. FFSbet.com
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Whats with annoying bar,half screen covered

    Sky Sports
    FanTeam
    Bundesliga
    Fantasy5
    FPL Draft

    1. VeddyV
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Its probably just a styling bug. They should have fixed soon (I hope!)

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Hopefully sorted this morning.

  16. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    10th pick in a 10-man draft league.
    How did I do?

    1. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Hendo/De Gea
      VVD Dunk Semedo Firpo Doherty
      Sancho Raph Buendia Jota Trincao
      Firmino Hesus Rodrigo

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      No idea!
      Currently in the middle of our 12 team draft. I had 10th pick too.

      I’m guessing our scoring is different but so far I have

      Mendy
      Wan-Bissaka
      Ward-Prowse
      Watkins

      Seems very boring but hopefully they’re close to 38 games / 90 minute players.

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Beware of united signing Trippier! I think he'll be ahead of Wan-B.

        1. RogDog_jimmy
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Eh it’s too late. With Varane and Sancho how much more they got to spend anyway? Surely a DM is before another defender.

          1. Baps hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Should be. They are fine with AWB defending and Sancho attacking. They need decent backup for AWB, but he isn't injury prone. I haven't checked Trippier rumours, but he might get to play cup games. AWB would still be first choice imho.

  17. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How likely is Dennis to start for Watford? Could be interesting instead of a 4.5 player

    1. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Currently I see him behind King, Pedro, Sarr, Sema and Cucho vying for the front 3.
      Dare I say, Deeney could be ahead of him too

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I see, I see, that means terrible idea. Thank you for letting me know.

    2. dansully3
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      They have around 8 attacking options up top. Lottery job.

      1. Haa-lala-land
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Watford will show the as yet unheralded 1-1-8 formation this season

  18. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Hi all which one do you prefer?

    Dunk Coufal Buendia Antonio
    Havertz Webster Toney White/Fofana

    1. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      First one

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A

  19. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Is Jota likely nailed early on?

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      I don’t see why he would be. Four players for three spots. Somebody is getting rotated.

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      He will probably (certainly) share minutes with Firmino. Jota is more attacking and started more easier fixtures and Firmino on the other hand defends better.

  20. 03farmboy
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Bruno and Toney
    Or
    Havertz and Cavani

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A. More nailed

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        With Rash out surely Cavani is nailed?

  21. AM9
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Havertz vs Mahrez is a tough one. I like them both but don’t think I can start with both. Is it worth having Havertz for Palace and then switching to Mahrez? Hate booking in transfers though. And to get Son in GW3 would require a hit

    1. Budweiser
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Mahrez always ends in tears

      1. Costa Nostra
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Literally always.

    2. MGMT
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Same dilemma here... thinking Mahrez could be gold for first fixtures, but you never know with Pep... currently have Havertz but might switch to Mahrez.

  22. Pukki Blinders
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Think I’m set on an alternating 343 and 433 to start the season off…

    Will mean a rotation between Ayling and ESR

  23. MGMT
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Mahrez or Havertz?

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Mahrez

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        I agree. MCI scores more and points are spread in both teams.

        1. Haa-lala-land
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          I look at Mahrez, and I look at Man City last season and think how good they we're, and the I look and see Mahrez got 145 points only, for 9m.
          Soucek, Harrison and JWP all got more points.
          I think Mahrez will haul against some occasionally, but he'll be frustrating as H to own.
          Im beginning to think both him and Havertz will have to be one of those FPL players that we jump on and off depending on their fixtures and whether we expect the to start, mid way through the season. At the moment, they're a bit of an FPL pipe dream, or like a mirage.

  24. R.C
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Which combo?

    1. Havertz + Buendia
    2. Greenwood + Nacho

    1. Totalfootball
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      1

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      1

  25. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on the latest draft folks? Compromised the defence for the mids.

    Bachman
    Taa fofana white
    Salah bruno havertz gundo
    Antonio Watkins Toney

    Foster Ayling bissouma williams

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Havertz and Gundo aren't nailed at this stage plus their fixtures are not great for the first 6.

      Picking two from three 4.5m defenders from the first few fixtures won't give you a strong backline imo and not sure if both Havertz and Gundo is worth that

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Agreed, not happy with this draft either. Cheers

  26. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Pick one

    A Veltman Wilson 442
    B Beundia/Bowen Toney 352

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Buendia Toney

  27. R.C
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Fofana or White for the bench?

    1. Chelsea91
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      White

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Neither

    3. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      For gw1 white

  28. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Pickford
    Taa,Coufal,Dias,Shaw
    Raph,Havertz,Bruno,Salah
    Watkins,Toney

    Forster White,Browhill,Perica

    Thoughts???

  29. Pukki Party
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    How's my draft i haven't touched in a month looking? Usually not many clean sheets at the beginning of the season, viable to go with a few 4.5's?

    Schmeichel
    Digne Fernandez Taylor
    Salah Bruno Son Raphina Buendia
    DCL Antonio

    4.0 Femenia Coady Davis

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Congratulations on Schmeichel spelling.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        My first rule of preseason is to never pick a player who's name i cant spell, think i got 15/15 correct there.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          RaphinHa

          1. Pukki Party
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            Looks like he's out then

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      That front 7 is too much imo! at least you need another 5.5m def

      DCL > Toney
      Fernandez > Shaw
      Taylor > Coufal

      1. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah lacking premium defenders for sure, cheers

  30. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 9 months ago

    Konsa for first 3 anyone?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 9 months ago

      Is there any reason to pick him over Targett?

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Ashley young may play LB?

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        The odd goal.

      3. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 9 months ago

        Have you ever seen konsa playing?
        He is really a goal threat. Air and ground. Targett more kind of an assist man

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 9 months ago

          Konsa 3.29 xG this season. Scored 2.
          Targett 2.8 xA. 2 assists

          1. 3 A
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            I tought Targett got 4 assists..

          2. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 9 months ago

            That's fair enough. I'm only avoiding Villa defenders because they have a shelf-life of 3 games.

            1. Emiliano Sala
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 9 months ago

              Start of the season is the most important part though. Can jump on bandwagons after that