FPL Bonus Points System: Could it be improved?

Man in the stand, man in the stand!

Excellent article. I agree that in principle that there needs to be improvements to the BPS system, but maybe not quite what is proposed here.

We don't want to kill non-Haaland forwards off - they've already declined in FPL terms over the last 2 seasons, but I strongly agree they shouldn't be doubly-rewarded when scoring.

The proposal here seems to reward those sides like City who keep high possession by passing the ball around the back. I don't want goalkeepers racking up baps just by passing the ball to the fullback and getting it back.

Deep midfielders who are crucial but don't score or assists need to be made more desirable FPL-wise for sure; on the other hand, I'd like to see players who foul a lot (hello again, City) more heavily punished with minus baps.

So maybe just focusing on:
Key passes
Big chances created
Net tackles
Saves
Dribbles
Recoveries
Clearances, blocks and interceptions (CBIs),

not rewarding goals and mere pass completion, penalising fouls more but not off-target shots (esp ones that hit the woodwork) would bring a better balance.

Will it be improved though?

"The downside is that, Kane and Haaland aside, this alternative system would have killed forwards, with Ivan Toney dropping back to 148 overall points. The two high-scoring strikers have had to have phenomenal seasons to only just edge past Salah, Trippier and Raya, so what happens when we have an annus horribilis for strikers like the one we witnessed in 2021/22?"

If there are virtually no bonus points for forwards under this new regime. then they should get 5 pts for a goal - the same as mids like Salah.

Is this article based on the pre-information the FF Scout team have for rule changes to FPL for Season 23-24 ?

The bonus point system can always be improved by giving my players more bonus points.

Once the "major" rule changes are officially released could someone provide a points table from last years totals ... updated to show the impact of the new rules?

Does anybody know what brand of goalkeeping glove David Raya is wearing in the picture above? I used to favour Reusch gloves personally.

Drives me up the wall when a player loses bp's for getting a YC. They lose a point just for the card, but it can mean they lose bonus as well, so a YC can potentially cost a player 4pts - ridiculously disproportionate - losing the 1pt should be enough.

Good article - but makes me think, if this was to be the major change - either this year or next - how could FPL communicate this in a way that was halfway understandable to 11m+ people?

I think any changes they make have to be simple from here on in for that reason: max. 2 players per team, transparent price changes, roll as many transfers as you like, etc. Any changes have to be simple enough to communicate instantly.

Who is more nailed next season do we think?

A. Martinelli
B. Saka
C. Jesus

In terms of content and research this is the best article I've ever read on here, do they dish out Pulizers for FF articles?

Unfortunately, though, it is predicated on the assumption that the masses want a game that is micro-managed to reflect the intricacies of a footballer's contributions across a myriad of positions. Whilst there is no doubt that this would be a fairer reflection of an individual's worth and importance in any given match, the fact remains that it would only be of interest to the 10 - 15% of purists playing the game, the remaining millions are more interested in buying as many 'star' players as possible then padding their squads out with Palace, Villa, West Ham etc.

This may be frustrating to the majority of serious players here, but never lose sight of what the game is... it's a genius piece of marketing by the PL to increase interest in their product - and it works beautifully. I swear to god I once saw an Iraqi go Banzai in the pub once when 'his' goalkeeper saved a penalty in the Monday night game. The format works for the masses, I can't see them changing anything much for the sake of players, however talented, who form the minority.

That said, they'll probably now change everything to reflect what's outlined in the article and I'll have to nuke this account and start a new one if I ever want to post again...

De Gea: 3420 minutes played (all games) BPS 729 total bonus 5 pnts. Didn't he fit in all these stats?

I just keep it simple and look for blocks, passes, saves. Normally fairly obvious.

Also I look at the points players don't get fellas with constant wild shots I avoid Adama Traore etc. Even if the stats heads on here go on about theoretical XG as if it is an an actual thing. They rarely look at the quality of shots these days.

BPS - Beard Points System. I’m hearing FPL Towers are considering this as a real option this season.

I get that strikers do very well with the current BPS system, but then again, they only have one job, and if they do it well it’s what makes the biggest impact. How do you reflect that in FPL without giving credit for goals? Even Kane, who frequently drops into midfield to great effect, would lose out.

This has been an unusually good comments page

Atleast this pre-season will have a much-needed extra dynamic with the rumours of big changes.

Only have to wait around a week now.

BPS system is mostly fine in my opinion, especially when you now can easily understand it through Twitter/YouTube.

I do think it needs slightly adjustments, however. I’ve seen some good ideas to mitigate its flaws (yellow cards too punishing etc etc).

But what I think is more important, is transparency. The Official FPL page should have a pinned video explaining how they are calculated in relatively simplistic terms.

BPS is a good part of the game; especially when the best players aren’t always the best at accumulating BPS (Salah 3/4 years ago is the best example of this).

Hence, I actually think BPS serves as a good equaliser, for the most part.

Surely this would need a complete overhaul of the pricing system too?

Why pay £14m for a striker who won't get a single BAP and only 4 points for a goal?

Most strikers wouldn't be worth more than £4.5m at best.

Raya would be worth at least £10m, as would Tripps and Trent.

Maybe we should be thinking – what are the bonuses for? While man in the stand wasn't based on any stats, it did reward the three 'best' players in that game, in theory regardless of measurable output. Often you watch a game where one player is head and shoulders above the rest irrespective of what they're producing.

This might be cringe but I’ve just done a draft with the livefpl planner. Earth thoughts?

Assuming I’ll WC after GW4 and left 0.5m itb for any pricing inaccuracies and can always downgrade Mitoma to March if they're really wrong x

Ramsdale // Kelheller
TAA Dunk Estupinan // Pinnock Patterson
Saka Odegaard Foden Grealish Mitoma
Haaland Mbuemo // Sharp

Is there actually anything to suggest there will be big changes to the main game? My interpretation was that they're adding another format.

Game updating - how long til it opens?

Good article. I have been a big critic of the double reward for forwards in the past but equally under this system it seems that keepers would play a much bigger part of the game which wouldn't be somthing i'd feel that comfortable with as they can be a bit of a lottery. Certainly a system that spreads the points amongst all positions better would be of interest and if it can bring in to play the usual bench fodder options each week that would be great. If there is a good chance that a Hojbjerg or someone can get you 5pts if he plays well then that gives us something else to consider with our team selection.

I don't know why scoring is different for forwards like Jesus and midfielders like Martinelli. Depending on the team and vogue, either one can be relied on more or less for goalscoring, and likewise, forwards can contribute at least as much towards defending.

In fact, I would say every member of the team has fairly equal responsibility for goals and clean sheets, since they will all take the appropriate actions and risks to help the team at both ends because the aim of the game is for the whole team to outscore the opponent's team.

So I would at least give the same goalscoring and clean sheet points to forwards and midfielders, and probably the same goalscoring points to everyone, while removing them both from bps.

Though I would personally make big changes to how positions are allocated and managed, and how they relate to points, I can't see a major overhaul of the game system until they've judged it's viability via a trial format, as they may be doing now, if ever.

I don't mind forwards being "double rewarded" for goals in the current BPS system. Even with this they still struggle to compete with the extra goal point and CS point for midfielders.

6 bps awarded in total.
4 bps awarded per game using scoring scoring:
1 BP for best keeper
1 BP for best defender
1 BP for best midfielder
1 BP for best striker
And
+2 bps awarded for official man of the match

What on earth has happened to the desktop homepage

Harvey Barnes
13 goals last season in 34 games, including 2 in a game
Not one single bonus point all season though!

I’d say scrap bonus points in general, if they weren’t just an easy way for FPL to drive engagement. Should just give the official MOTM 2 points or summat like the Champions League game.