Fixtures

Rotation Pairs – Crystal Palace & West Ham

After taking a look at the rotation pairings offered up by Burnley and West Brom, Hull and Middlesbrough, and Bournemouth and Watford, we now turn our attentions to Crystal Palace and West Ham.

It’s worth noting that this duo isn’t one of the most “conventional” pairings, in the sense that they only alternate on a home/away basis for 24 of the 38 Gameweeks – including each of the first 12 rounds of fixtures. As we’ll see, Palace and West Ham still look a very viable option for those seeking a rotation partnership in defence.

The Fixtures

Despite losing ten and drawing three of their matches at Selhurst Park last season, Palace conceded just 23 goals in front of their own fans – just one more than Southampton and Liverpool, for example.

Alan Pardew’s men racked up six clean sheets in front of their own fans – compared to two on their travels – which highlights the likelihood of picking up defensive returns at home.

Palace scored just 39 times all season, though, with a tally of 19 home goals superior only to relegated Villa, so the idea of rotating their attackers seems a far less enticing option.

West Ham also picked up six clean sheets at home, though were more resilient than the Eagles on their travels and kept out their opponents on five occasions.

Given that they scored 65 times (34 at home, 31 away) last term, which was equal to Arsenal and a tally bettered by only three other teams, it’s fair to say we expect the Hammers’ attack to be far too dangerous, and pricey, for Fantasy managers to consider benching.

Assessing the schedules, by playing the most favourable fixtures over each of the first 20 Gameweeks, you would face only four of last season’s top ten. This consists of home encounters against Liverpool (Gameweek 10), Man City (GW12) and Southampton (GW14) before a trip to either Arsenal or Leicester in Gameweek 19.

Outwith that quarter, you’d be handed ten very promising home matches (WBA, BOU, BOU, WAT, STO, MID, SUN, BUR, HUL, SWA) as well as trips to promoted pair Burnley and Hull and visits to Sunderland, Palace, Swansea and Watford.

Over the final 18 Gameweeks, the Palace/Hammers pairing continues to look favourable. Granted, the “easiest” fixture is on the road on eight occasions but seven of those clashes (mid, bou, wba, bou, hul, sun, bur) are either against promoted clubs or teams who finished in the bottom seven last year.

Looking at the ten home fixtures, nine of them (CPL, SUN, WBA, MID, WAT, SWA, EVE, BUR, HUL) seem conducive to defensive returns, leaving just a trip to Southampton in Gameweek 31 and visit from Spurs in Gameweek 36 as the toughest matches in the latter half of the season.

In terms of alternative partnerships, Palace alternate home/away with Swansea over all 38 Gameweeks and rotate with Burnley on 36 occasions. The Hammers, meanwhile, rotate with Southampton for the 38 rounds of fixtures, though that pairing looks unlikely to offer us a double-up for defensive regulars for under 10.0.

If you’re looking to research further on rotation pairs, as mentioned in a previous article, we’ve introduced a new feature for members this season to help analyse potential fixture pairings via the Season Ticker. By selecting any team and hitting “sort by rotation”, the ticker now ranks those teams most appropriate for rotation with the highlighted team over the Gameweek range you choose to display. You can apply this using both the attacking and defence filters to analyse rotation pairings at both ends of the pitch.

Defence

Crystal Palace
New signing Steve Mandanda looks very likely to oust Wayne Hennessey between the posts after being snapped up from Marseille earlier in the summer. In terms of minutes per save (34.1 to 34.4), there wasn’t much between the pair last year but given the considerable outlay, Mandanda will surely start the campaign as Pardew’s new number one.

Second amongst all defenders for both goals scored (five) and efforts inside the box last year, Scott Dann remains Palace’s number one option at the back. Much depends on his price, though- having started last term at 5.0, his exploits could even force a price hike to 5.5, which would certainly end his appeal as a rotation option at least.

Joel Ward and Damien Delaney both found the net on two occasions last term and were equal for attempts on target, with six apiece. Whilst the former still looks set to continue in Palace’s back-four, the acquisition of James Tomkins from West Ham places major question marks over Delaney’s security of starts in 2016/17. Tomkins has struggled to nail down a regular role in recent years, though it’s worth noting that the last time he was a secure pick – albeit in 2011/12 in the Championship – he racked up four goals and as many assists. Tomkins won a higher percentage of his headers than both Dann and Delaney last year, which could be profitable in a Palace side that sat third for attempts from set-pieces.

On the left, Pape Souare failed to find the net and managed just one assist last season. The Ivorian produced almost double the number of key passes as Ward (27 to 14) in just over 300 minutes more pitch time and could remain under the radar, given his lack of output in 2015/16.

West Ham
Adrian sat fifth for saves in last year’s top-flight despite missing six league matches. Indeed, the Spaniard’s average of 30.1 minutes per stop was equal to Lukas Fabianski, who finished second for total saves over the season. Impressively, Adrian’s penalty-saving exploits have seen him deny five spot-kicks in the last couple of seasons and he looks nailed-on under Slaven Bilic.

With two goals and four assists to his name, Aaron Cresswell remains the standout option amongst the Hammers’ defence. The raiding left-back sat third in the top-flight for chances created amongst defenders in 2015/16, though, like Palace’s Dann, there’s a fear than he could come in pricier than his defensive team-mates as a consequence of last season’s achievements.

Angelo Ogbonna flitted in and out of the back-four after arriving from Juventus but the Italian gradually acclimatised to life in the Premier League and started the final 13 league matches. Nonetheless, he lags behind skipper Winston Reid for Clearances, Blocks and Interceptions (CBI) as well as attempts on goal (six to 18), despite playing over 200 minutes more than the Kiwi international.

It’s worth noting that new boy Havard Nordtveit made 17 of his 27 league starts for MGladbach at centre-half last year. He bagged four goals and an assist in the Bundesliga but seems likely to be listed as a midfielder.

We’re also hoping that Sam Byram can finally nail down a starting role at right-back. Handed just two starts after arriving from Leeds in the winter transfer window, he fell behind Michail Antonio in the pecking order as Bilic rolled out three and four-man defences in the final few months. Crucially, we need Antonio to be utilised as a midfielder for the season ahead, though the arrival of wingers Sofiane Feghouli and Gokhan Tore is a real concern.

In terms of potential pricing, the lower end of this partnership is likely to set you back around 9.5, though both Dann and Cresswell look highly unlikely to come in at a cost affordable enough to use either as part of a rotation pair.

Attack

Crystal Palace
Bearing in mind that no Eagles player scored more than five goals in 2015/16, it’s fair to say our expectations are relatively low once again.

Certainly, the signing of Andros Townsend from Newcastle will shake things up in the final third. Should Pardew opt to play the former Spurs man on the right of his 4-2-3-1, Wilfried Zaha may be forced onto the left flank, with Yannick Bolasie moved centrally behind a lone striker.

There’s also the likes of Jason Puncheon and Bakary Sako pushing for minutes but, like Zaha, the pair scored just twice last term and look far from guaranteed starters. With four goals in 12 starts for the Magpies, Townsend could emerge as the man most likely and should come in at no more than 6.5.

Yohan Cabaye could also be one to consider if he retains dead-ball duties. The Frenchman – who netted five times (three from spot-kicks) last season – sat first for attempts on goal and second for chances created in his first year at Selhurst Park.

The departure of Dwight Gayle currently leaves Connor Wickham in pole position for the lone striker role, though bearing in mind that the latter has scored just five times in each of the last three seasons, Pardew is clearly determined to improve his options.

Having failed in a bid for Michy Batshuayi, the Eagles boss is now focusesd on bringing Christian Benteke on board. The big Belgian has struggled to fit into Liverpool’s style of play and a move to Palace would be more suited to the strengths of a striker who scored 42 times in 89 league outings for a struggling Villa side.

West Ham
As mentioned already, this pairing looks best considered for defensive options alone.

Whilst Palace’s attackers can be expected to remain in the low mid-price bracket, Dimitri Payet is poised for a move into the premium bracket after averaging 5.7 points per appearance in his first season in the top-flight – a tally bettered only by Riyad Mahrez. Nailed-on in either a central support berth or wide left, he was second only to Mesut Ozil for key passes in the Premier League last year and remains the standout fixture-proof option under Bilic again, though he could be eased into action in the first week or two due to his Euro 2016 exertions for France.

Given that he managed just two sub outings in the first 14 Gameweeks of 2015/16, Michail Antonio – who racked up eight goals and seven assists – can be expected to come in around the mid-price bracket, with a cost of 7.0-7.5 anticipated. As mentioned, though, the acquisition of Sofiane Feghouli and Gokhan Tore, allied with recent comments from David Gold, suggests Antonio could be utilised as a right-back in the campaign ahead. If Bilic opts for a wing-back system, though, Antonio – who was second for minutes per goal for the Hammers – could yet remain in contention.

Certainly, Bilic has food for thought as both new wide men lack a goal threat – Feghouli has never scored more than six goals in a league season, whilst Tore – who has played under the Croatian with Besiktas – has never bettered four strikes.

Along with the likes of Mark Noble and Manuel Lanzini, they may struggle to earn a place in our five-man midfields. With Lanzini missing for the first couple of Gameweeks as a result of his call-up to the Argentina squad for the summer Olympics, Feghouli and Tore will be hoping to stake a claim for regular minutes from the outset, particularly if Payet is eased back into contention.

Up front, reports linking the Hammers with a move for AC Milan’s Carlos Bacca suggest that Andy Carroll may struggle to retain the lone forward role. The big Geordie’s continued battle with injuries remain a real issue, though, and whilst his aerial ability is a handy weapon, a lack of mobility means he may be utilised as a Plan B off the bench if Bilic can land a big name to lead the line.

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821 Comments Post a Comment
  1. The_Colonel
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Another false dawn comes and goes!

  2. Irish Madridista ⭐
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    1h 54m

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      * 1. 50

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        1.45*

  3. Agger
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I still couldn't trust Palace to deliver even with favourable fixtures..

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Papa broke my team last year 🙁

  4. Annie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    can we ban him yet...

  5. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    1st

    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      ....is the FPL ID we're all after 😎

      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        2nd because Mark Rogers has 1st reserved for himself

        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Is that a pic of Mark?

          1. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Nah it can't be, it's too human.

            1. HVT
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Agreed The Mark Rogers of Fpl is in fact a machine!
              https://media4.giphy.com/media/cRx9Zxwsr2qJi/giphy.gif

          2. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            It's a Mark Rogers amongst many others

    2. A.T
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      😎

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        😛

        Everyday, is a day closer. Every hour, is an hour closer.

  6. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Mandanda + Adrian will be too expensive methinks 😕

    Maybe a 5.0m Antonio if he's's a defender, otherwise Cresswell could be the man again

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Why would I buy Cresswell when Baines could be the same price?

    2. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Reid if he stays fit

    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Mandanda on his own maybe. Hoping Antonio is a defender but not sure want a Hammers defender. They're not good for cs when everyone is fit. They had that run of cs when all their attackers were injured and Slaven decided to park the bus

    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nothing much changes really, not sure what all the fuss is 😉

    5. Tadic is the new Eriksen
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      DEF Antonio is the only one I'd look at

  7. Zizoulicious
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Don't fancy West Ham for clean sheets. Not Palace really

    1. Zizoulicious
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nor*

    2. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Palace have no chance of clean sheets when Puncheon plays.....

      1. Zizoulicious
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I've heard he's done some intensive pre season training for his bowel movements

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Fancy Palace this season actually. But not West Ham

      1. Zizoulicious
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah Palace more than West.Ham. But Pardew has these terrible runs of form which are difficult to predict

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Indeed. He also has some sparkling runs of 1-0s against good sides. Again, hard to predict

  8. Agger
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I can see Baines making a comeback this season. FPL gold.

    1. Tadic is the new Eriksen
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Aye, at 5.5 he'd be worth a punt just for the nostalgia

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Hopefully. I'll be getting Coleman if he's 0.5 cheaper though (which I suspect he will be)

      1. Zizoulicious
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        What about Jags if he's even cheaper than Coleman?

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Nah, Coleman or Baines for sure

        2. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          He will be. But he has very little upside

    3. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      As an Everton fan and waiting for the 1st week Funes Mori on my watchlist. He performed well in a totally disillusioned and poorly organised defense.

  9. You Must Be Jokin Ere
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    From memory, FPL nearly always opens on the Friday, 4 weeks from the start of season - agreed?

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      no

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nope.

    3. Agger
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      When is it normally?

    4. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      FPL get it out when they can be f****d, there is no pattern and no deadline. If there was a deadline, they'd fail to meet it, that's there problem.

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        😆

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      The only opening days I remember are in 2010 as I was in the US, it was a Thursday 15th I think... And I think in 2014 it opened quite late in the evening if I recall correctly? I got a low ID that year but remember it being quite late in the evening!

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        It's ok. We already have an extensive list of opening times from previous years.

    6. Jøssy ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Awful memory

  10. HVT
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    José for me based on total bias of being a united supporter even tho I hated him @ Chelsea!
    🙂

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Fickle lot

      Sold your soul to the devil 🙂

  11. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Name the top 10 teams in the league at the end of the 16/17 season.

    Doesn't have to be in position order but can be if you like.

    1. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Man Utd
      Man City
      Chelsea
      Arsenal
      Liverpool
      Spurs
      Everton
      Southampton
      Leicester
      Stoke

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        West Ham, not Southampton......

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        No West Ham?

        1. Jafooli
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          😉

    2. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Manchester United
      Manchester City
      Chelsea
      Arsenal
      Liverpool
      Spurs
      Everton
      Leicester
      Crystal Palace
      Southampton

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Forgot West Ham, them instead of Southampton

      2. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        No West Ham 😮

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          😆 I see you made the same mistake

          1. Jafooli
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Did you cut & paste per chance 😉

      3. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        You don't have Bilic to build on last season?

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      🙂

      Big 6
      Leicester
      West Ham
      Everton
      annnnd Middlesbrough

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Think those top 9 are gonna be in most people's. Really the last one that's the difference

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          It's a good reference for me.

          If I can find a bit of value in the defence of a top 9 team during a good run of fixtures it's someone I'll want in my team.

    4. krzys
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Man City
      Man Utd
      Chelsea
      Liverpool
      Arsenal
      Tottenham
      Leicester
      Southampton
      Everton
      West Ham

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        1) Arsenal should be 4th in any list.
        2) Don't like the chances of Spurs?

        1. Jafooli
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah 'Tottenham' have no chance 😉

        2. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Tottenham lol

    5. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Liverpool
      Man United
      Man City
      Chelsea
      Arsenal
      Spurs
      Leicester (maybe not if they don't replace Kante)
      Southampton
      West Ham
      Bournemouth!! 😀

      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Don't fancy big Ronald to do the biz at Everton?

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          I really like Ronald, but I don't like most of Everton's players unfortunately 😛 They'll be mid table imo, probably ahead of Bournemouth but I've high hopes for Howe's lads!

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Think Charlie Daniels be a good option again this year?

            1. Irish Madridista ⭐
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Yep could be, Francis too I felt got a raw deal last year.

              Gradel / Arter / Wilson could be decent budgets 🙂

    6. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      City
      Chelsea
      United
      Arsenal
      Liverpool
      Tottenham
      Leicester
      West ham
      Everton
      Palace

  12. WHM & Palace - over or under achievers?
    J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Did West Ham over perform last season and are due a slump this season? Or do you have faith they can continue to provide good Fantasy assets across all positions?

    Did Palace underperform last season? Can they improve this season? Or are they destined to always be at near relegation level?

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Palace will do what Pardew sides always do. Be great for 6 months then terrible for 6

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Has he already worn out his great 6 months though? He started fairly poorly with Newcastle in his last season there..

    2. Zizoulicious
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I think West. Ham will drop off a little. Moving to a new stadium will effect their home form because Upton Park was a fortress- fans right on top of you making it imposing for the opposition.

    3. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      West Ham will concentrate on Europa I think, so their players won't be good assets this time.
      Crystal Palace will keep on attacking, so their players will be a good asset.

    4. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Avoiding the REAL issues of the day!!! 😡

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        You mean do we burn Mark Rogers or do we stone him?

        1. McQueen
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Who's in your team? 😉

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            An angry mob carrying torches.

    5. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      West Ham good enough to continue in the same vein. Though other teams have improved more so league position may suffer a little.

      Palace performed as bad as they deserved, so no. Yes, they can improve and expect them to do better overall. Reckon they'll have half a good season, half a bad season again

    6. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Key for West Ham is holding onto Payet who is obviously hot property.

      If they can do that and add a quality striker they could improve but that is two big asks really.

      I'm of the opinion that surely Palace will still be Palace. Townsend could be a good pick price and fixtures dependent but for me that'll likely be it.

    7. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Palace' s problems were easy to pin point.

      No quality finisher and a dramatic slump in form from the very moment Bolasie was injured.

      A striker of note and a fit Bolasie will see them provide some decent picks.

    8. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      West Ham did over perform, but are not necessarily due a slump, because they eventually played better and better during the season, and have strengthened their squad quite wisely and are still likely to add some key players. I'm still not convinced by Bilic though.

      Palace can improve, if the signings are right. That midfield has a lot of goods in it, but they're in a serious need of a no. 1 striker in particular. Pardew's teams have had a tendency to overachieve the first half a season and then go on to underachieve gradually more and more. Maybe that will be the case again, but there was probably much more rotten in Newcastle that can't be blamed on Pardew individually.

    9. Hotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      If West Ham get Bacca, I don't see why we won't have another good season

    10. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Bilic is a fantastic manager. With Bacca deal imminent and if they keep Payet, they should do very well. I don't think they will go far in Europa so that will not be a big issue imo. The real problem they need to fix is the defence. If they tighten up, I can see them in the top 7 again.

    11. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      No Pardew team can be relied upon. They will have good runs, they will have bad runs. More bad runs than good ones usually.

      A good striker like Benteke would help Bolasie though.

      West Ham are a good team and should continue to do well although Europa League may hamper them somewhat.

    12. Ryssel
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I'm really hoping that Benteke goes to Palace... he will go straight into my team as third striker if that is the case. (probably about 9mil? maybe 8.5mil or 8mil cause he had a bad season last year)
      With all the pace on the flanks that they will have it could be a great attack they have going..... that said I would love it even more if he signed for West Ham.

      West Ham will be good value I think.... as long as they don't have too many rested players during European weeks. Ogbonna, Antonia, Cresswell all look good possible value... and then ofcourse the might Dimitri 🙂

  13. JJO
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    link for players list?

  14. Astel
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    *Holds breast*

    1. Astel
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      *breath

      ...damn

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Well, you hold breath, then, I can handle the breast.

    2. Trigg ⭐️
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Mods, please sticky this 😆

    3. Ziro
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      says a lot about your autocorrect learning. 😉

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        😆

  15. Däzzy
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    safc.com/news/club-news/2016/july/club-comment-sam-allardyce

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      BFS deserves it

      Can't be any worse than the other bunch of previous idiots

  16. HVT
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Even without prices/positions of players, teams looking template on here, the fantasy of fantasy football has got some in a tangle-I now know not only know what Fantasia means but I know where it lives!
    😆

  17. Nickofoz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    For everyone saying the player list is updated hours before the game goes live, I'm 90% sure that didn't happen last year - FPL leaked a handful of prices of twitter closely followed by the launch of the game

    1. Root
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      The player list came out a couple of minutes earlier.

      9th Jul 2015 11:26:
      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/10466157
      "UPDATED : Price list."

      9th Jul 2015 11:28:
      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/10466203
      "ID NO 3"

      1. Ziro
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        This.

        The prices were leaked by dripping one at a time via twitter/fb but then the player-list page updated first, followed by the actual FPL page a few hours later.

  18. Trigg ⭐️
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Picking a defence is going to be tough, actually.

    Chelsea, United and Arsenal will all appeal, and now Everton look like having good options. Throw in the fact that Hull and 'Boro got promoted on the back of a solid defence, and there is a lot to choose from.

    1. nobwak
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sounds like you've got it sorted... a Chelsea, Arsenal and United defender, and then Hull and Boro as bench options... sounds good to me!

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        3 premium defenders would take up a lot of budget!

    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I think 2 from United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton then a cheap 3 way

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I want my defence sorted before I start thinking about cheap 3 ways.

      2. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        But yes, which 2 to pick?

        Thinking Chelsea and United, but then I do love Bellerin in FPL ... and not even thought about City yet.

        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Don't over think. Decide which 2 you want and pick accordingly

          1. Trigg ⭐️
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            I just got advised not to overthink by JK? 😯

            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              😆

    3. Zizoulicious
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      One promoted team - probably Borough. Francis at Bmouth if he costs 4.5, Baines/jags... Then two more

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      With all the attacking talent this season I'll be looking for 4.5/4.0 defenders. Maybe one 5.0m if I'm feeling adventurous 😉

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Might just go triple 'Boro and double Hull 😆

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Started with James Chester(4.5, HUL) a couple of seasons ago for a GW1 double figure haul 🙂
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28718789

          Love my cheap defenders 🙂

      2. Zizoulicious
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I'm thinking one 5.5, then the rest 4.5.. With hopefully a 4.0 emerging pre season

    5. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Picking a team is tough

    6. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Already have mine sorted actually.

      Shaw + Baines/Coleman as the two premium
      Sunderland/Palace/Middlesbrough as the three cheaper.

      Fits nicely into my plan of wildcarding in the second break

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Keepers still up in the air due to prices, but like the look of Bunley/WBA for those first 7 weeks as well

      2. Zizoulicious
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        But if Big Sam takes the England job? 😮

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah, then it's back to the drawing board. 🙁

      3. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I like that rotation but it means I need to find a keeper. I would maybe swap one of them for Burnley or Bournemouth and take the keeper

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          See above. Bur/WBA fits like a glove into that defence

          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            I go with one playing keeper

            1. Respect My Authoritah
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              I plan to for most of the season, ie. after wildcarding.

              But to begin with, nice to have two keeper options - never know who someone may sign and an early keeper injury when you're chasing the quick price rises early on can be disastrous

              1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                By one keeper I mean one keeper and his deputy, so Mannone /Pickford for example

    7. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      This is what I've been thinking of, but may be too expensive:

      Courtois, whoever
      Shaw, Coleman, Ward, Kone, Ayala

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        No value in Courtois imo. Mannone + Pickford would work better as a one keeper strategy

        1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          It is more money, but I enjoyed having De Gea for most of last season, so I thought I might go big again. Looks like we already arrived at the same defenders though.

      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Heaton or Foster ahead of Courtois

    8. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I agree with GB I'll be going on the value hunt in defence.

      I only really want a defender outside of top 10 team if they are 4m starting price.

      I'll be moving mountains early doors to get the cheap options into my team.

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Let us know what ya end up with will ya? 😉

      2. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        So many big hitting strikers/mids on offer!

        It also keeps you flexible in attack. The GW1 bandwagon will almost certainly be a mid/fwd, and getting him with 1 FT is important imo.

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          I suppose my most successful fpl run I played with one of defender (Baines) and the rest small. 3 x 4.5 1 x 4.0 and gks 4.5 & 4.0.

          My motto was get the cash up the pitch. Think I'll be going back to basics with that this year as non matter what I did with defenders last year they didn't score great for me.

          1. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            I'll be going down this route too this year. Ultra cheap GKs too. Last year was a disaster.. Doubled on Spurs for a run of them conceding 1 goal per game for like 8 games..

          2. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            I always prefer cheap keepers and ideally one guy and his backup, so Mannone and Pickford for example

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              I'm not above starting with just 1 playing keeper. It's not like we have blanks/DGWs to navigate. And the tougher the fixture, the more save pts. Depends if we can spare the 0.5m...

              1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                I prefer one keeper and his backup purely for the safety of injury or red cards if going the one keeper route

  19. JJO
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Cmon Andy give us that Guess price topic for defenders...
    We want FPL to open today 🙂

  20. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I already told you all, FPL is cancelled this year.

    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I was actually thinking the same

    2. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Might be a blessing in disguise.

    3. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      *shoots self*

  21. Agger
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Luke Shaw anyone?

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      He could be £7m, you know.

      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        6.0

      2. Agger
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I was hoping 6M 🙁

    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      No point getting him in as he will pick up his usual injury and then you will have to transfer him out

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Don't forget the burgers....

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Rooney is helping him eat them

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Aye.

    3. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Straight in my team

  22. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I have just realised that live coverage of tomorrows Open Golf Championship is available for free to non Sky Sports subscribers.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2016/07/10/sky-sports-to-screen-the-first-day-of-the-open-championship-for/

  23. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Hey everyone! Long time no see. Hope you're all having a great summer! 🙂

    For those of you wondering, I will be doing my exclusive FFS UEFA champions league tournament this season and will start the sign up process shortly after FPL opens. Due to traveling, I won't be as active on here throughout the summer but will still release tournament updates on these boards. The format of the tournament will be similar to that of last season and am looking to get around 256 players.

    Watch this space! 🙂

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Welcome back Jaffa 🙂 . Count me in

    2. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sounds good wouldn't mind being a part of that if you had a spot.

    3. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I'm in. Loved it last season

    4. JJO
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Would love to finally be in it

    5. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Need to improve on the semi final finish...
      The final is calling me in 2017.

    6. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Welcome back Jaffa! Count me in. 🙂

    7. Desertbug
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Count me in, if you have space...

    8. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sommos Cubanos!

    9. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Hey Jaff!!!!
      I'm in.

    10. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks all. Look out for the sign up forms for this tournament. I'll look to release them next week.

      Take it easy 🙂

    11. Prøphet
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Missed it last season unfortunately 🙁 Want in this season tho!

  24. nevins84
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Who wants to draw up a daft letter to FPL we can send on mass to get some sort of movement...

    1. Pasqualinho
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I can do a daft post. But I think lots of us are capable of that.

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      If anything that would just slow it down. Leave them be. It will be live shortly

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        That is if the reasons they are not opening it are technical. But if they're just sitting on a ready made game, watching people here destroy their F5 buttons to refresh the FPL site, as some suspect (see below), then it could have a good effect instead of slowing down the release.

        But even in that case, I think the best effect would be achieved by people just stopping to refresh the FPL launch page.

    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      This site does Daft better than most

      1. nevins84
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Lets be honest it would be daft but maybe they might begin to release some prices at least, i reckon they are sitting back clocking up the thousands of hits each day thinking lots of revenue with this type of traffic let it roll

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          FPL is usually launched around the 18th last year was the exception when it was launched a week early

        2. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          they are definitely not doing this.

    4. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      good typo, as it would be a daft letter, in terms of all the good it will do.

      Patience

      1. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        This

    5. Desertbug
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      We need to wait until 59 minutes and change have gone by before we can do that...
      Not a second earlier or later.
      🙂

  25. Boydinho
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Who will be the most expensive defender in FPL? And how much?

    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Toby and Smalling.

    2. JJO
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Alde + few
      6,5

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Toby. 6.5

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Bellerin + Smalling also

    4. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Toby Smalling Bellerin all 6.5 imo

    5. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      6.5....I don't see a 7.0 defender this season.

    6. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Nice question. Could be a few at 6.5.

    7. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Rooney.... 10m

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Would you have him?

        1. JJO
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          I would

  26. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I think if our best way into United's defence might be the RB spot sadly 😕

    Something tells me Shaw will be 6.0m and I have a feeling Valencia/ Darmian will be 5.5m considering their "rotation risk".

    I reckon Darmian will be first choice but at least the Charity Shield might give us some sort of indication. That 0.5m saved could be huge.

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Bailly will probably be 5.5, no?

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Why would he be cheaper than Shaw / Smalling? Chance Blind stays at CB?

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Blind's chance to stay at CB is to not stay at ManU.

      2. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I guess so with Blind a "rotation risk"

        Just need to find who is more of a BP magnet between RB and CB spot. Maybe someone could do a BP calculation on the two of them from the Charity Shield if they both start. Could be interesting

    2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      This is true.

    3. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I'll still be taking Shaw over risky 5.5 picks

    4. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      The saving grace for Shaw cpuld be that he has to be priced really without kicking a ball.

    5. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Cant see Shaw at 6m given his injury record

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        this

  27. Exdeo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    so we don't know prices yet, but still can do maths and it's obvious all the big guns will not fit inside 100$, specially with Kun + Ibra up front. So the question is whom will you risk to leave outside your team - Sanchez, De Bruyne, Hazard, Miki.

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      KDB and Sanchez won't be in my team to start with for sure

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        (mainly because Hazard and Mkhitaryan are 100% in)

  28. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    BFS for England

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36783415

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      If Sunderland are to have a traditional bad start to the season, BFS needs to go. How else are they going to make a last minute relegation escape? 😉

      Aguero(C) GW1

      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Great logic found only on FFS

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      As long as he beats Slovakia im happy

  29. FAITHNOMORENO
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    skrtel,ibe and canos leaving lfc this week.
    skrtel to complete his move to fener today.

    1. Tadic is the new Eriksen
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting, Ibe to Bournemouth? COuld be a good FPL option if so.

  30. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Argh. Just spilt line cleaning fluid on my self. Got blue shorts on with a big white stain on the crotch. Not a good look.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Days like this can really stirrup the emotions.

    2. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      "split a cleaning fluid" 😆 That's what you say, nobody's gonna believe it.