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The Community Round Up

The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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2,626 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Can't wait until this season is over. 👿

    1. FrankieTheGent
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Arsenal fan?

      1. Fantasy Gold
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        😆

    2. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      😀

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Laca new season.

  2. GS456
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Great play from Alonso.

  3. ihateramsey2
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    What did this game tell us about Willian vs Ramsey debate?

    1. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      it told us not to forget about Fabregas 🙂 ...even though he is a bit of an assister of the assist

    2. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not sure it was ever a debate?

      It's more of a case of Ramsey vs the other 7s and Willian as the best choice of the 7s.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Rambo's had 2 chances (good) and a good "assist" ball, Willian scored a cracker and looks lively. The lack of a Gooner defence is telling.

      1. GS456
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Ive changed mid match from ramsey to willian

    4. Jambot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Fabregas 20 goals and assists Willian 11 last season and William played 200 extra mins Fabregas has to be considered too

  4. FPL Pillars
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Alonso is class, is he is anyone's team?

    1. Optic1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not for that money.

      Weakens the team too much finding the 1.5 extra i need to fit him in.

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        look upon him as your fourth midfielder in a 433, he becomes fantastic value (outscored any other 7 mill mid last season) and allows you two 4.5 non playing mids to free up cash elsewhere?

    2. GS456
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I have him.

      Its a case of him and Sane

      Or Lindelof and KDB for me

    3. Swanremainsthesame
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, as my 4th mid

  5. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    On a scale of 1-10, how highly do you rate Rafa Benitez as a manager?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      8

    2. FrankieTheGent
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      8
      Won a champions league
      I think he'd have won the league with Suarez
      Staying with and getting Newcastle promoted was a feat.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        7.5. -0.5 for "FACT!" 😉

    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      6

      He is average to good but certainly not a top manager

    4. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      7.

      A decent manager.

    5. Yav
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      6

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        6 - He won a UCL but failed in the league for Liverpool, despite having a wonderful side (That midfield of Masc, Alonso, and Gerrard...and then Torres as a striker).

        He has not done so well since. He didnt impress for Inter, or Napoli in particular tbh. He did ok with Real, but was found out in some big games. He suffered perhaps from the typical issues with Real fans, but Zidane has shown the success possible with that squad. He couldn't save Newcastle, despite having a very good side (Some managers could have). They were not exactly fantastic last season - they won the Championship after Bton had been promoted and put the foot off the peddle. But they had easily the best side in the division.

        My feeling is that he was a superb manager who has faltered in recent years.

    6. Optic1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      7/10.

      Tactically astute.

    7. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      7

    8. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Overall in his career an 8 given what he did at Valencia and the trophies he's won since.

      At bit like LVG, I don't think he is as good as he was and his innovations have been copied by others and he no longer has the edge he originally had.

    9. SW6
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      5

  6. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    "Alonso assist"

    I've missed seeing that!

  7. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Alonso assist and clean sheet 3 baps

  8. KUNingas
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Some said Ox is still sliding..

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Just overtook Campbell.

  9. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RMT please (Think I'm sorted here)

    Foster
    Cedric | Monreal | Trippier | Lindelof
    Mane | Ozil | Willian
    Kane | Jesus | Defoe

    Elliott | RLC | Carroll | Hunemeir

    Who could replace monreal for 5.5?

    1. 3050MIF
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Like it!

    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Are you reconsidering Arsenal defense after today's match?

      1. phace
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        This is by no means Arsenal's first team defence...

        1. chaboi1998
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah not even half strength. No mustafi bellerin koscilent Kosnialec

  10. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Damn, Batty would be nailed on if Morata hadn't intruded.

    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Morata intruding on Batty boy? Ain't that sort of site, son!

  11. mcrayeps
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Hows firmino? Cant watch liverpool game

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Playing on the left. Nice touches but that's about it.

      1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Who is playing as the striker/false 9?

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Origi.

    2. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Done nowt.

    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Looks good.

      His teeth are glistening as usual

    4. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not worth 8.5 as a forward.

      1. mcrayeps
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Ouch.. Should i change back from firmino to defoe?

  12. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Very interesting read for those doubting Morata

    https://twitter.com/i/moments/888687228196499456

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not as good as Rooney.

    2. Thoughtopsy
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Morata or Lacazette?

    3. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Haha

  13. GS456
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    How do i change my GRAV? now arnie has sadly departed for west ham

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Click on whu.co.uk grab a screenshot & you'll have some good ones to choose form

    2. AA33
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Visit the gravatar site

  14. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Elneny waving for a booking, scum

    1. Supertrooper
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Really want refs next season to enforce the rule giving yellows out to the player asking for the yellow.

      1. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Its sickening. I agree, refs need to lay down the law

  15. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Alonso flooring another innocent civilian

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      looooooooool

  16. 3050MIF
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    1) Dawson, De Bruyne and Morata
    or
    2) Azpilicueta, Ramsey and Gabriel Jesus

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      2

  17. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Firmino should have never been classed as a Centre Forward in FPL

    Error on their behalf

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Tbf it's only a pre season game.

      When Mané comes back I think he'll be far more central

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        This^
        Origi won't start

  18. Blanka
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Many takers for Morata at 10.0m then? Tempting price.

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Seems odd her is priced cheaper than Laca that's for sure.

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I think it's an indication of Laca being priced 0.5 too high rather than Morata 0.5 too low.

  19. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone know why Chelsea strikers are always cheaper than the rest of the top 5 strikers?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      They don't score as many goals

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'd call Costa underpriced. As well as Morata

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      No penalties either...Hazard has those

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Fair point

  20. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Ramsey on direct FKs. Me likey.

  21. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    This is Chelseas first pre season game and Arsenals fourth, yet Chelsea have the greater intensity in their game.

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      It's not Chelsea's first...

    2. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You missed the fact that Chelsea are league champions and Arsenal didn't make top 4

    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Pretty much sums up the differing attitudes from both managers.

      Wenger relaxed and complacent.

      Conte driven, ambitious and fiery

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Chelsea are playing with pretty much their first 11. How can that be ignored?

    4. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Chelsea had a preseason blow out last week... 8-2 I believe

  22. Bayer Neverlosin
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I've got a dilemma on how to go this year with 2 teams:

    Foster
    Trippier/Lascelles/Simpson/Francis
    KDB/Salah/Shelvey
    Luk/Kane/Lacazette
    (Maenpaa/Carroll/Mcarthur/Mee)
    Or
    Foster
    Trippier/Mcauley/Luiz/
    KDB/Salah/Willian/Shelvey/Sterling
    Luk/Lacazette
    (Maenpaa/Simpson/Lascelles/ Murphy)

    Thoughts?

  23. Coys96
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RMT

    Forster
    Cedric Trippier Lindelof Lowton
    Zaha Ozil Willian
    Kane Lukaku Aguero

    no subs

  24. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Hmm. All I'm seeing from Maguire is a clunky CB who wrestles his man to the ground as soon as they make any move to go by him.

    1. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Though tbf put in a nice tackle on Firm earlier.

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Wenger is preparing a bid

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        £50 mill + Sanchez

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Must be getting mentored by Lovren

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        😆

    4. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Who signed him

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Not watching the game? Leicester CB now.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Nah, internet is playing up...unless its on tv?

  25. Coys96
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    a) Alli and Lacazette
    b) Ozil and Kane

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      b

  26. FrankieTheGent
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Batshuayi at 8.5
    The things I could achieve!

  27. arthadox
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Southampton Lineup: Forster, Pied, Bednarek, Yoshida (c), Targett, Davis, Romeu, Long, Tadic, Boufal, Austin.

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      That backline..

    2. arthadox
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      No VVD on the bench.

    3. FPL Maldini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Formation??

  28. FPL Maldini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    How is Salah actually playing?

    Is he worth it over Coutinho / Mane?

    1. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'm still going with Mané and tbh haven't doubted it so far.

  29. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Bat and Willian stealing the limelight but Fabregas looking fantastic. If he gets a starting spot he'll be gold with pens, set pieces and baps

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Lol

      Fabregas on pens....

      1. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        With Haz out ofc

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Willian nailed in my team.

      Looks like the main man