Moving Target

Ings’ potential as a budget FPL forward evident in Saints’ debut

With the summer transfer window closing just over 24 hours before the start of the 2018/19 Premier League campaign, the frenetic pre-season preparations left us little time to assess any of the moves in closer detail.

Amid all the big-money transfers, our first Moving Target piece scrutinises a player who didn’t cost a penny – at least not yet.

Danny Ings‘ (£5.5m) loan move to Southampton from Liverpool was one of the last transfers to be completed on Thursday and not announced until three-and-a-half hours after the deadline had passed.

Though Ings’ move to his boyhood club is in name a temporary one, the Saints have an obligation to buy the 26-year-old striker at the end of this season for a reported £18m.

Ings made his Southampton debut on Sunday afternoon in the 0-0 draw with Burnley, coming on as a 56th-minute substitute for the injured Stuart Armstrong and impressing alongside first Charlie Austin (£6.0m) and then Manolo Gabbiadini (£6.0m).

Speaking after the match, Ings said:

At the moment, I’m getting used to the way the team play – I wanted to come on and get a feel for the football they play. We play good football here and there are some really, really good players. It’s a pleasure to work with them.

There were a lot of spaces coming deep, so I drifted into those pockets, got on the ball and tried to play people in. I want to show people it’s not all about running in behind for me – I can come short and play too.

I’ve had two or three years of terrible luck and frustration really, so to come here, be free and play my football – I couldn’t be happier, or have a better club for me right now in my career.

Manager Mark Hughes was quick to dismiss worries about Ings’ fitness issues, which contributed to him only playing 14 league fixtures in three seasons at Liverpool:

He’s proved his fitness, it’s not as if we have to get him rehabbed, he’s a fit young man – he’s had the injury in his younger years. So, you always get a better response and outcome when that happens. We don’t have any worries about his injury.

He ended strongly at the end of last season. He’s fit, he’s well, and he’s ready to go. He’s at a point in his career where he wants to start making an impression again. He came back strongly for Liverpool at the end of last year and showed his worth to them. You’ll note Jurgen’s comments about him, as a character and as a guy. That was an important factor in being able to bring him here as well because we want to enhance the dressing room and the personnel, so that’s an added bonus for us.

The History

Born in Winchester in July 1992, Ings actually spent time with the Saints’ youth set-up before joining the academy at Bournemouth, then in League Two.

Making his debut as a 17-year-old in the Football League Trophy match against Northampton Town in October 2009, Ings spent two months on loan at non-league Dorchester Town before Eddie Howe handed the teenage striker his first league start in the 2-0 defeat to MK Dons in November 2010.

Ings went on to score seven league goals in 26 League One appearances for the Cherries in 2010/11, also grabbing a goal in the south coast club’s unsuccessful play-off campaign.

Ings made just a single start for Bournemouth in the 2011/12 campaign before Howe, who had jumped ship months earlier, snapped up Ings for his new club Burnley in the summer 2011 transfer window.

The young forward had to wait several months for his league bow, only featuring on 15 occasions for the Clarets in his first season in the Championship.

Howe returned to Bournemouth not long after the start of the 2012/13 season, a campaign in which Ings scored just three league goals in 32 Championship appearances – though only 15 were starts.

The 2013/14 season could be considered Ings’ breakthrough year, with his 21 league strikes and seven assists helping Burnley to promotion to the Premier League for the second time.

Ings took the step up to the English top flight in his stride, scoring on 11 occasions and setting up a further four goals despite Burnley’s relegation back to the Football League.

Joining Liverpool in the summer of 2015, Ings was to feature in just five Premier League matches for the Reds – scoring two goals – before a knee ligament injury effectively cut short his season.

Returning to action on the final day of the 2015/16 season, Ings was to damage his other knee in October 2016, ruling him out for the rest of that campaign too without the striker having kicked a ball in the Premier League.

Though returning to fitness in time for the season just gone, Ings was to be a peripheral figure as Mohamed Salah, Roberto Firmino and Sadio Mane tore up the league: Ings did, however, register his first league goal in three years with a strike in the 2-2 draw with West Bromwich Albion in April of this year.

Ings left Anfield after just 14 league appearances and three Premier League goals.

The Prospects

Ings’ promising debut in the draw at St. Mary’s on Sunday hinted at possibly greater things to come – providing the injury-plagued striker can stay fit, of course.

There is a real dearth of exciting budget forward options in FPL this season, with Raul Jimenez and Bobby Reid (both £5.5m) about as good as it gets in the sub-£6.0m bracket.

Priced at £5.5m himself, Ings’ move to Southampton could be a game-changer if he can recapture some of the form that saw him hit 11 league goals in his final season at Burnley.

Ings managed more in 34 minutes of his Saints bow than Charlie Austin did in more than twice that time, registering three attempts on goal and four penalty box touches. Ings also created twice as many chances (four) as any other Premier League forward at the weekend, one of which almost led to an assist as Jack Stephens forced Joe Hart into a near-post save.

The spark that Ings provided upon his introduction surely stands him in good stead ahead of the trip to Everton, with Austin and Gabbiadini offering little in the 0-0 stalemate with Burnley.

Although Southampton started with just one forward – Austin – on Sunday, Hughes frequently rolled out a two-man attack in pre-season and switched to a 4-4-2 upon Ings’ introduction at the weekend.

A two-pronged frontline would, of course, increase Ings’ chances of a start, but on current form the former Liverpool man may even lead the line himself.

That Ings often dropped deep to link up play in that draw with the Clarets suggests he would be more comfortable playing alongside another striker, however, so it remains to be seen how Hughes will adjust his tactics to accommodate his loan signing.

Ings’ ability to create as well as score adds to his appeal. In the 2014/15 season with Burnley, Ings carved out six big chances for the Clarets: just four other forwards could better that tally.

Only five forwards had more attempts on goal than Ings (97) in that season, with the striker registering a shot on goal every 34 minutes.

It should be said that all of this was accomplished playing in a relegated Burnley side who scored a league-low 28 goals as they slipped back into the Championship.

With a trip to Crystal Palace sandwiching home fixtures against Leicester and Brighton after this weekend, Ings could be a handy, budget-freeing differential: the ex-Burnley striker is currently only owned by 2.0% of FPL managers.

2,578 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Monkey Hanger
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Finally. A northern accent on the scoutcast.

    1. doublyG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Granville not northern enough?

      1. Monkey Hanger
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        If he's northern, he has been living in Kings Landing too long. 🙂

  2. KLOPPTOMANIA
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Who stands to benefit most from KdB' injury in terms of playing time?

    1. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Injury?

        1. Eze Really?
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks guys

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Bilva/mahrez

    3. fussballstadion
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Gundogan

    4. Costa Nostra
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Mahrez...set piece duties are his. Also pep said he could play middle as well.

    5. Salahlulijah
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Can see Lampard benefitting

      1. Regin
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Lampard ? Don't be ridiculous. Yaya Toure will get more minutes now.

        1. Salahlulijah
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Not sure if Stuart Pearce still rates Yaya

  3. LIARS POKER
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Early thoughts but doesn't anyone like the sound of this for GW3?

    Salah + King -> Hazard + Lacazette

    I know it would be brave/stupid to go without Salah but like the look of the second pair and fixtures fro GW3 onwards.

    1. LIARS POKER
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      GW4* sorry (atfer Salah has Brighton at home)

      Also own Mane

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Not the dumbest idea but I may be able to get the latter 2 and have salah and most of the other good players

    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      why downgrade salah?

    4. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Kings fixtures not too shabby either. Very difficult to justify both moves.

    5. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Terrible move.

    6. Big Ping
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Don't become blinded by fixtures.

    7. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Also thinking of getting Salah out that week if Mane can keep going and Hazard/Kane/Mahrez pick it up. 13m is a lot to spread around

  4. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Sanchez + hudson-odoi > bilva + richa/maddison (-4)?

    1. doublyG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Who would you play for Hudson Odoi?

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Wan-Bissaka or Stephens of Brighton as Bednarek ain't playing

    2. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I wouldnt

  5. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    I think this sort of team is viable:

    2*4.5
    6.0 6.0 4.5 4.5 4.0
    Salah Hazard Mane Richarlison Maddison
    Vardy 6.5 4.5

    As some sort of whacky 3-5-2. Or even the 2nd striker as a 5.5 to upgrade defence and have a hybrid 3-5-2/4-5-1.

    Just exploring how Hazard fits into teams. It basically means sacrificing a premium forward IMO, unless you want to go Salah-less. Or make a 6.5 mid into Fraser to get the £ to change Vardy to Auba.

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      dont like it w/o prem fwd

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Personally id downgrade a keeper and go vardy > laca

    3. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Overthinking this one. Lacks a top striker. May work but I dont like it. Need aguero/kane/Firmino to satisfy me. I wouldn't WC to achieve it if thats what you are doing!!

      1. Team Bobcat
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Auba

      2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Nah I'm just messing about. Purely to see how Hazard fits into teams. The answer is with difficulty.

    4. KAPO KANE
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Hazard would be instead of Mane surely, enabling a premium striker.

      Or as you have it with Neves instead of Maddison to enable

  6. Ibra
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    I made Alexis -> Pogba earlier this week so I could afford B. Silva -> KdB after gw2. So basically now I have weaker player and 2,5 million extra money and I have no idea how to use it. Current team:

    Ederson
    Robertson - Shaw - Tarkowski
    Mane - Pogba - B. Silva - Jota
    Aguero - Firmino - King

    Subs: Foster, Daniels, Wan-Bissaka, Stephens

    Any ideas how I could improve my team after gw2? I guess potential swaps are:

    King -> Vardy/Morata
    Jota -> Alli
    Pogba -> Hazard

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I like the king > vardy move!

    2. Jay Arell
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      This is why you dont kneejerk at the start of the week...

    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      jota > haz if jot blanks

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      King > Jimenez or Ings
      Jota > Mkhi or Ramsey
      Shaw > Bellerin or Luiz

      All solid moves

      1. David_23
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Kdb is injured...

    5. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      V sideways

    6. cheekumz
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      You have a Cheaper player, not necessarily a Weaker one.

  7. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    tuned in for the scout cast and now feel abandoned. might as well watch the marigold o'tell.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Refresh

      1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        ta. decided to take things more seriously this FPL, so settling down with a glass of amarone to enjoy the scout cast. cheers 😉

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Finished my beer so relying on the scoutcast to get me buzzed

          1. KAPO KANE
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Hey Deulo, how's your start been this year? Did you go maverick in the end?

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Hey KK. I did a little bit. Triple City, Palace, Liverpool, Arsenal and double Wolves.

              GW1 wasn't anything special with Mendy and AWB on the bench, and kicking myself for going for Sakho and Mkhi over PVA and Richarlison, but it's early days, as Joe is syaying right now on the Scoutcast 😀

              How about you?

              1. KAPO KANE
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                Yeah absolutely, perhaps one of the hardest times to hold off jerking of the knee!
                Mendy on the bench is annoying, personally I'd never bench a 6m player.

                Went pretty standard template in the end, 3-5-2. Got attacking returns from every outfield player except the strikers! Only regret is going Sanchez over Mane really.

                1. KAPO KANE
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 10 months ago

                  And of course saving the FT this week, hoping Sanchez goes mental vs Brighton (have Ryan in goal so trying to jinx myself)

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 10 months ago

                    After all that tinkering, you went for the template 😀 Glad to hear it went well. Good luck next week

  8. boc610
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    It beggars belief how stupid Danny cipriani is. That's it for him now. No coming back from that.what a waste. Could have been the next Jonny Wilkinson if he had a brain.

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      What's he done now?

    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      We all thought Ben Stokes did something too

      1. Jack Sparrow
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        He did. He is a complete tool. Not guilty doesn't always equate to not doing anything wrong.

    3. MysticMac17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      The guy is such a clown. So much talent and potential wasted because he's regularly on the piss and acting the idiot. He's the English James O'Connor.

  9. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Ramos & Diego Costa. The Thug vs. The Psycopath.

  10. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Modric might well be the best player in the world at the moment.

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Probably won't win the ballon d'or anyway though

      1. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Ah, no chances of that. That one is more than not a popularity vote. Especially this year when fan votes count too.

        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Surely that's not a thing.

          1. I Member
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah that's not true. Don't know where you got that from.

          2. CloudSky
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Might have mixed it with that Fifa thing as Ballon is no longer associated with Fifa and Fifa now has "The Best" avard or something like that.

            1. I Member
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              That's right.

    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Not worth it on Fifa

    3. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Salah!!
      Mbappe 2nd best.

      1. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        One season wonders. 😉

  11. Pompel
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    With knees jerking vigourously to get Bilva in, I have a sneaky feeling that Maddispn might be the better differential.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Is differential a good or a bad thing?

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        A differential could by definition go both ways, yes

    2. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Get Fernandinho. He will be a great differential.

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Not very prolific though, is he. 120 points last season from 2900 minutes

    3. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Biggest beneficiary from the KDB injury is Mane.

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        He seems out of favour atm though

    4. JamTart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I'd bide your time. He's promising no doubt though.

      It's a weird one because on the one hand it's a bit early to go diff hunting but also there's plenty time to make up the gap if it goes wrong since it's early. Guess it depends if you prefer an aggressive or a more passive strategy.

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Think one can go aggressivr with one player or two, as long as rest if team and bench is robust

  12. Ibra
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    What do you guys think about Özil? He has pretty good fixtures after gw2 and is a potential guy.

    1. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      R we still living in the year 2014? In that case, yes get him in.

    2. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      His performance has been deteriorating for the past three seasons.

      1. Team Bobcat
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Couldnt agree more. And his recent public rant sums him up really.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Definitely on the watchlist from GW3 forwards

    4. I Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      One to monitor.

    5. Jack Sparrow
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Lacazette or no one for me.

    6. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I am sure he will get a return or two throughout the season but I would steer clear of him. Behaves like a spoilt brat when things dont go his way. Not for me

  13. Cornholi0
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Would you transfer out Sigurdsson (SOU, bou, HUD, WHAM) for Bernardo Silva?

    1. Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      No

    2. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Yes! With kdb out, b Silva nailed.

    3. Jack Sparrow
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I would, but would never have got Sigs in the first place but thats just me.

    4. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I bet BSilva beats Siggy with loads to spare come the seasons end so yes yes yes

  14. DrunkPhilosophy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    I guess it was always my fault from GW1 when I got KDB instead of the more sensible options (Mane , BSilva).. I was trying to think ahead and save myself a transfer down the line.. Well I guess that didn't work out..

    Team is
    Foster Fab
    Robertson Mendy Luiz WB Peltier
    KDB* Salah Richarlson Jota Cairney
    Zaha Aguero King

    A) KDB --> BSilva
    B) KDB --> Mane
    C) Save and play Peltier this week and reassess next week but risk missing on price changes..

    1. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      B

      1. DrunkPhilosophy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        The Mane rise is putting me off a bit, as I would have a pointless 0.4 itb after that move.

        1. Vamonos
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          But it could be a pointless 0.3 itb if you wait too long...

          1. dan_247
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            This

    2. Four Hit Wonder
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Mane despite the price rise. Or Mahrez.

  15. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Will KDB drop tonight?! 63.9% on FPLstatistics but falling fast! Considering switch to Sterling but would prefer to sleep on it!

    1. Jack Sparrow
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Sleep on it and forget the drop then.

    2. Salahlulijah
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Should be 95% by 24:00. I’d say 50/50

  16. BadgersBoys
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Diego!

  17. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Sergio Ramos. Would he be in your team if Real were in the PL? 8.5m defender on pens.

    1. Regin
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      8.5 ? Crazy. Maybe 6.0

  18. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Sanchez to Bernardo silva for free?

    Feels wrong...

    1. El Matador
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Because it is wrong this week

    2. Philip Jones's Diary
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Think you've gotta leave Sanchez for one more match.

    3. moz_1983
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      It is. I'd say hold.

    4. clodhopper
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I must say it feels very wrong

    5. DrunkPhilosophy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      hold

    6. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers all

  19. Rebeltactics
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    To replace KDB
    A)Hazard
    B)Mane

    1. DrunkPhilosophy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      B

    2. Clive The Ram
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Mane for me. I've got both him and Salah and think Liverpool will make hay most weeks this season.

  20. Clive The Ram
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Captaincy advice, please:

    Mendy (HUD)
    Salah or Mane (cpl)
    Richarlison or Tosun (SOU)
    Arnautovic (BOU)

    I know the sensible and safe option is probably Salah but I do rate Palace and don't see him running riot. I'm sorely tempted by a cheeky punt on Arnautovic, to be honest! Am I being unnecessarily risky at this early stage or does GW2 provide an opportunity to take a punt?

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Salah of those

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I’ve got Salah and Kun and I think I’m going to captain Kun this week.

      Palace look decent under Hodgson, whereas Huddersfield look like City are going to run them all over the shop.

    3. Salahlulijah
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Read the poll. Tells you everything you need to know

    4. Ohh1454
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I am also very tempted to captain arnautovic only thing holding me back is that he went of injured

    5. Team Bobcat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I dont think Arnie is that much of a risk. Could easily haul as much. That said I habe Arnie and Salah has the VC band at the moment. Kun my C

  21. Maddi Son
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Gut instinct is a load of bolloks isn't it? Not feeling Bilva but the extra 3m goes a long way.

    1. BadgersBoys
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Complete and utter horse pish.

    2. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Yep, but going with your own intuition is way more fun than going on what somebody here tells you you should do.

      1. Maddi Son
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Completely agree. Couldn't imagine playing this game with a template team, I like having a few different players.

      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Gut instinct told me Richarlison was too much of an FPL bandwagon and that I’d be a sheep having him in for GW1, whereas people on here said he was all but essential with Everton’s early fixtures.

        Sometimes your gut instincts are right and sometimes it’s the wisdom of the crowd what wins.

    3. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Yep, "go with your gut" is the worst advice that gets parroted as something useful.

      1. kennethrhcp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I prefer "gut" calls... less regret in going with it & being wrong, rather than going with someone else recommends & being wrong... if that makes sense

        1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Or you can ignore people and come.to a conclusion that has decent reasoning. Not some "gut feeling" copout.

          1. kennethrhcp
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            very true... I think most do that really don't they & just refer to it as "gut".

            it's just saying... it aint the popular pick here but im gonna chance it

    4. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Gut instict seems to mean making a decision based on the available knowledge. If you are making a decision based on gut instinct, I think it means you are unwilling to gather any more information about a decision before you make it. And that's fine. Everyone has a limit. You are still collecting some form of statistical data by watching football and noticing how attacking players, how often they seem to be getting into shooting positions, etc.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        But it's a very merky, mystical term. It's a good flag to remind yourself that you probably don't know enough about something, alerting you to your blind spots 😀

        1. kennethrhcp
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          we all watch & read enough about football to have somewhat of a personal opinion already made up on most players... kinda like the eye test vs stats... eye test would be "gut"

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Absolutely we have filters which guide our interpretation the eye test and stats (and everything). Isn't this more related to "gut" than the eye test itself?

            1. kennethrhcp
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              apologies I wasn't clear or maybe ive misread your comment. I think you meant a gut feeling means you need more info on the matter, where as im kind of saying to me the gut feeling is more to do with the eye test then it is stats. like if the player looks good to me i'll stick him in even without looking at in depth stats

              not sure im explaining myself well...

              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                Sure I think we basically agree. I'm saying a gut feeling is based on the information you have available, and there's a good chance that this info comes from the eye test, but could also be prior knowledge from absorbing football media for weeks and years etc. But a gut feeling still isn't literally from the gut; it's not mystical. It's still based on information, but the information can be questionable in quality and quantity. Perhaps that explains my position better. I don't disagree with you 🙂

                1. kennethrhcp
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  5 years, 10 months ago

                  well explained!!! i'm glad one of us could do it 🙂

                  fully agreed

      2. Jack Sparrow
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Not quite sure you understand what gut instinct means. Gut instinct normally goes against trends and lacks any knowledge or stats to back up your decision.

        A gut feeling that goes against any logical rationale.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          I have the gut feeling that Salah will score well this season.

          1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            I have the gut feeling Man City will score lots of points this season

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Paradox! 😆 Gut feeling can't align with rational thought. Duh!

          2. Jack Sparrow
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Incorrect use of the phrase again. Just use google. Maybe thats the platform you will understand what gut instinct/feeling actually means.

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Just because you don't use reason to come to a decision, a gut feeling is still created by the mind, which is where all the information you have is stored. You don't create a gut feeling by rationalising something, and then choosing to feel the opposite. It's based on the data in your brain.

              1. Jack Sparrow
                • 5 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                Jesus Christ hahaha. Thanks for the laugh.......

                1. Deulofail
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 10 months ago

                  Unable to have discussions. This is the most commited you've ever been to a discussion and you failed, instead reverting to aggrovation and essentially trying your hardest to offend. Good luck to you

                  1. Maddi Son
                    • 6 Years
                    5 years, 10 months ago

                    "It's a good flag to remind yourself that you probably don't know enough about something."

                    Condescending too but hey-ho.

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 8 Years
                      5 years, 10 months ago

                      Not sure why this is a problem, but sorry to offend. Perhaps I should have said "myself" and "me".

              2. Maddi Son
                • 6 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                I agree with your earlier post that it's a merky term and it's difficult to word it correctly. We all look at stats and that is the basis of our decision making. (Well most of us) - But you'd be lying to yourself if you haven't made a decision based off intuition, or eye test as someone else called it.

            2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Gut feeling doesn't have to go against trends at all.

              1. Jack Sparrow
                • 5 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                You 2 are an amazing double act.

                1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                  • 8 Years
                  5 years, 10 months ago

                  I have a gut feeling that indicates significant defacation tomorrow.

    5. Four Hit Wonder
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Depends on the quality of the gut.

  22. bitars
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Who to start?

    A. Mitrovic (away against Spurs)

    B. Cedric (away against Everton)

    1. Salahlulijah
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      A. Think Everton will score. At least Mitro has a chance of a goal against a dodgy looking spurs defence

  23. cjhewitt92
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Can you guys give me some advice

    Is Pickford and Moura to Hart/Foster and BSilva

    I am thinking not worth hit but for free next depending on performances you guys agree

    1. Salahlulijah
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Might need to do it now as you won’t be able to afford Bilva after he rises

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Why get rid of Pickford?

      1. cjhewitt92
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Only get rid of Pickford to fund move.

        I considered selling Shaw had a good start to season may get a run
        Bavies rumours of Rose leaving and wanted some Spurs cover

  24. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Am I G2G for this week? Save FT?

    Fabianski
    Mendy, Robertson, Kabasele
    Salah, Sanchez, Jota, Richarlison
    Aguero, King, Arnie

    Patricio, Cairey, AWB, Tomkins

    1. Ozzy smith
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      save

  25. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Jota sellers 😀

    1. BadgersBoys
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      What a bunch of absolute ba****ds

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        They are obviously selling him for the same reason they bought him.. Somebody told them to

        1. BadgersBoys
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Yep. Most for Bilva too. I feel a sense of disappointment this weekend. No way in would be getting rid yet.

  26. Weasel Boy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone captaining Mendy?
    Tempted myself but will probably go with Kun.

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Kun.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Normally a defenders upside is 15pts and Aguero is way higher, but Mendy is like Alonso on speed, who knows what he is capable of?

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Mendy and Bilva are very tempting right now.

        May very easily pay back the 4 point hit in the first half hour alone!

    3. kennethrhcp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      ive a few say he's guaranteed 6points so he's a safe call... guaranteed is a stretch but you can see their logic.

      Aguero for me aswell (& I've nothing against captaining a defender)

  27. Pompel
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Just compared Bilva to Maddison stats. Knees falling to rest. But then Bilva plays Huds...

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      One plays for a free scoring Man City team and is in peak form, the other has just signed for Leicester.

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        And one of them is nailed and £1m cheaper than the other....

    2. Jack Sparrow
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Classic case of when to ignore stats.

  28. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Bernardo rising fast.

    Can't remember catching so many players price rises in gw1 without making a transfer.

    1. BadgersBoys
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      106.6 TV here already.

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Impressive.

        1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          imaginative

  29. Boxwoods
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    How to do KBD > Hazard?

    A. TAA > 4.5 (Not Tomkins)
    B. Arnie > 6.5 (I guess King or Mitro)

  30. Syd.
    • 15 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on Aaron Lennon?

    Will he be a regular starter for Burnley?

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