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Dugout Discussion December 15

Foden makes first league start of season as De Bruyne takes up advanced role

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The penultimate match of Gameweek 17 kicks off at 16:30 GMT, as Manchester City head to the Emirates to take on Arsenal.

Without the injured David Silva (£7.6m) and Sergio Aguero (£11.7m), Pep Guardiola has sprung a surprise by naming Phil Foden (£5.1m) in his starting XI for the first time in the Premier League this season.

With midfield anchors Ilkay Gundogan (£5.2m) and Rodri (£5.4m) in the visitors’ line-up, Kevin De Bruyne (£10.2m) looks to be playing in a more advanced role behind Foden, Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) and Gabriel Jesus (£9.6m).

Nicolas Otamendi (£5.0m) and Benjamin Mendy (£5.5m) also come into the side from the team that was defeated in the Manchester derby, with Angelino (£4.7m) and the sidelined John Stones (£5.3m) making way.

Bernardo Silva (£7.9m) and Riyad Mahrez (£8.3m) are only amongst the substitutes.

Freddie Ljungberg has made two enforced changes to the side that beat West Ham last Monday, with Sead Kolasinac (£5.2m) and Matteo Guendouzi (£4.5m) coming in for the injured Kieran Tierney (£5.4m) and Granit Xhaka (£5.1m).

Alexandre Lacazette (£9.3m) is again among the substitutes as Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£10.8m) leads the line for the Gunners.

Mesut Ozil (£7.2m) makes his seventh straight Premier League start.

At the risk of jinxing it, there ought to be goals in this fixture: Arsenal and City are without a league clean sheet in eight and six matches respectively.

Bernd Leno (£5.0m) has made more saves than any other Fantasy Premier League goalkeeper this season.

City have scored at least two goals in each of the last seven league meetings with the Gunners.

Fantasy managers have been deserting the premium players from these two clubs recently: De Bruyne, Sterling and Aubameyang were three of the four most-sold FPL assets of Gameweek 17.

Arsenal XI: Leno, Maitland-Niles, Sokratis, Chambers, Kolasinac, Guendouzi, Torreira, Pepe, Özil, Martinelli, Aubameyang.

Man City XI: Ederson, Walker, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Mendy, Gundogan, Rodri, Foden, De Bruyne, Sterling, Jesus.

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  1. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Better option?

    A) Pulisic & Tielemans ➡️ Son/KDB & Grealish (-4)

    B) TAA, Pulisic & Tielemans ➡️ Reid, KDB & Son (-8)

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  2. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Time to get baby KDB in?

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yes. Should never have left.

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    2. TRIPOS TOPPER
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      horse has bolted on that one

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  3. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mahrez has been awful since coming on.

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    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      In fact he's been worse than awful.

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  4. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Will there be any Arsenal fans left by the end?

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  5. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Nearly 21k Salah transfers in since deadline, thousands of other Liverpool purchases too.

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Gotta laugh.
      Absolute dummies 😆

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    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I bet they sold Mane to get Salah in

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  6. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Origi aside, is KDB the best ever Belgian to play in the Prem?

    Hazard makes it tight.

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    1. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Has to be benteke in his prime

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    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Kompany

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      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Worthy.

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    3. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Hazard not nearly as consistent as KDB.

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    4. dark91
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Chadli

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    5. Nightcrawler
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Fellaini

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    6. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Mignolet

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      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        CL winner at least.

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    7. Pras (FPL)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Fellaini of course

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    8. Celt Abroad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Kdb is the best.

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    9. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Waiting for Epic Fail to say Luc Nilis.

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    10. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      1) KDB
      2) Hazard
      3) Kompany
      4) Lukaku
      5) Alderweireld
      6) Vertonghen
      7) Courtois
      8) Albert

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      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        1. Origi
        2. Origi
        3. Origi
        4. Origi
        5. Origi
        6. Origi
        7. Origi
        8. Origi

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    11. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Albert, just for the moustache.

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    12. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thats an insult to Origi . Put some respect on his name and dont ever disregard him like that

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    13. Greasy Grealish Gang
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Here in Belgium I remember the rise of both Hazard and De Bruyne. They'll always be compared not as individual players but rather how much impact they each have. Both are world class but De Bruyne had my vote before he even signed for Chelsea.

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  7. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    KDB haul has hurt but good to see he is playing front three now.

    Will have to get him in...

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    1. Celt Abroad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Or indeed, stop getting him out.

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      1. Teomi
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This... one of my true season keepers

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  8. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    KDB in this position with Aguero and Sane. Ooo go on then

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    1. Miguel Sanchez
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      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Different gravy

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  9. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Don’t care if it’s greedy but KDB only getting 18/19 points here feels like a fail.

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    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’ve already raged transferee him out

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    2. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I feel you haha

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    3. Sid1891
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Sound like you didn’t C him?

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  10. Gobigorgohome
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling waste KDB assisy

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  11. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Arsenal are really pants.

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    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Harsh on pants

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    2. TAT
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Will be in the Championship too, the way things are going.

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  12. Red Rock
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    This blank for Liverpool is probably the worst blank I've ever seen, if you were to do the out/back in with Mane or Salah you really only have Wolves and Villa mids for fixtures.

    United are playing a Watford side that didnt look too horrendous, London derby with Spurs/Chels, and then of course Lei/City

    As someone with 2 FT's I'm a bit stumped. Is it worth just benching the Pool mid and allowing Rico to come in?

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    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Rico has a good fixture and been scoring well recently

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      1. Red Rock
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I've never seen those points in my first 11, maybe its time to reign them in.

        Tempted to do Mane to Son just so not to waste a transfer

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        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Wouldn't lose Pool attack

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          1. Red Rock
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            I'll be bringing him back in for next GW?

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    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Definitely. I'm benching Salah Mane TAA. Let others flap about taking hits in a GW that has all the signs of being a low scoring one anyway.

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    3. sminkypinky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’ll bench Mane and taa. Lot of value tied. Just did my 2ft’s: Mount and Jimmy -> Martial and Pukki for a short term punt.

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      1. Red Rock
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        You're getting rid of Jimmy vs Norwich?

        I also think they'll be goals in the London derby

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        1. sminkypinky
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yup. NOR didn’t look too bad this week. Also I need a bit of risks so here I go.

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    4. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Keeping Mane, letting TAA go

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    5. Greasy Grealish Gang
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm in the same boat as well. Even besides Mané and Salah my team's fixtures look horrible next week.

      Gazzaniga (Chelsea H)
      Chillwell (City A) - Soyoncu (City A) - Kelly (New A) - Dunk (ShU H) - Lundstram (BHA A)
      Grealish (Sou H) - Salah (blank) - Mané (blank) - Alli (Che H) - De Bruyne (Lei H)
      Ings (AVL A) - Vardy (City A)

      2 ft and 0.4 itb though..

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      1. Red Rock
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ouch, those are some scary fixtures for your defenders.

        I've got the same cash and transfers. I'm thinking of doing Mane > Son just for this week. But you've got all the players worth having, maybe you could transfer out one of your Pool mids for Martial?

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        1. Greasy Grealish Gang
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Lol, either Salah or Mané to Son was on my mind actually. I'll ook into Martial. Thanks! I think I'll survive a bad week in the mini league but I want to get the most out of it and increase the gap.

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  13. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Why does sterling even bither trying when its not a tap in?

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    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Agreed. He's awful.

      The only reason he's half decent is that City tear through teams and give him tap ins galore.

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  14. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I'd be fuming if I was KDB with how many times Sterling could have set him up and hasn't.

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  15. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling is so wasteful

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    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nothing new I guess?

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  16. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I have never seen Arsenal this hopeless.

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    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      What about 8-2?

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      1. ZeBestee
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        At least they were fighting while conceding those goals. Today, they gave up after those 3 goals.

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      2. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        That was more of a fantastic performance by United, Arsenal’s team was a little mixed, but the goals they were scoring is unreal.
        This team is different, they’re mentally sick.

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    2. Zilla
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Didn't watch the last 11 games?

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  17. Bobby Digital
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Zaha show tomorrow...

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      You mean Mat Ryan.

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    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Guaita masterclass rather

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      1. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Played Pukki over Kelly this week...

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Need a 1 pointer.

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      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Off before 60?

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      2. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Your cup oppo has him?

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah

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  18. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    If Sterling played well this game I'd have gotten him in for Mane. Doesn't look like he's coming in.

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    1. TRIPOS TOPPER
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      pointless transfer you would want Mane back next week

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I don't think I do actually. lei WOL SHU tot MUN

        I can wait if there are good alternatives. Sadly, I think Sterling isn't a good alternative.

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    2. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Was lucky with his goal. Not convinced about him. Seems like a waste using 2 ft to get him for one game and back out.

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I'm on WC.

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  19. Pariße
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling’s looking funny today, I think he had his eyebrows done.

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  20. CRO KLOPP
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Only homeless people,still on Emirates?

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    1. Sid1891
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thought they will take Etihad flight

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  21. Yank Revolution
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Pep and Freddie...Power Balds!

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  22. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling down for the 2nd time this week.

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  23. dark91
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Yeeeees into the next round in the cup. Thanks a bunch De Bruyne

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  24. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ljungberg smiling and chumming it up with Pep after an embarassing performance. Not a good look, sums up Arsenal though.

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looking for a job swap with Arteta.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He doesn't care. Just sits on the bench the whole game, doesn't even greet subs.

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    3. sminkypinky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Knows he’s there for a few weeks. Might just suck up to Pep and hope for an assistant coach seat at City.

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  25. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling injury maybe...

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    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Cramp

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  26. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Gutted I can’t quite afford Pulisic to Richalison.

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    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Honestly think it’s a lucky escape - I don’t get the Richarlison love

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  27. Herman Toothrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Out of the cup by 3 points. Traore and Rico winking at me on the bench.

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  28. TheDragon
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mount -> Grealish a no brainer?

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  29. thomashl
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Was 50/50 about selling KdB or Sterling some weeks back.

    Delighted I sold the right one!

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    1. JOELIO8701
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same here!! Very luck!

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  30. BobbyDoesNotLook
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    2ft and wc available. Next week is bit of annoying. What to do with Pool/Pulisic/Mousset?

    Pope (Button)
    Aurier Lund Kelly Rico Taa*
    Kdb Puli Dendo Salah* Mane*
    Vardy Ings Mousset

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